Marc Andreessen on Elon Musk, Nietzsche, and America's Thousand Year Empire

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Moment of Zen

Moment of Zen

Күн бұрын

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00:00 Intro
1:00 Unpacking the SBF quote
4:00 Introducing Joe Henrich’s “WEIRD”
6:15 Introducing Tom Holland’s “Dominion”
7:10 Nietzsche’s criticism of Christianity
8:45 Christianity’s inversion of morality
11:40 Is Wokeness the logical conclusion of Christianity?
15:00 The Christ narrative as the central narrative
16:20 Is WEIRD taking over the world?
17:20 Antonio’s upcoming circumcision
20:30 Why we can’t have Nietzschian morality in TV shows
24:30 Kanye, Trump, Elon
26:30 Introducing James Burnham and the rise of professional managerial class
31:30 How Elon is a threat to the PMC
34:00 Can other countries resist WEIRD?
38:30 What would Balaji say about the case for America?
41:50 Balaji’s Network State
43:20 Is social media going to fragment?
46:35 America is consistent with the process of evolution
48:20 We need more cleaving of the elites
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@kwameadjei3504
@kwameadjei3504 Жыл бұрын
The philosophical and historical context you guys provide to current affairs to better explain where we are today, what it means and predict where it could lead us, is the deluxe version of ‘All-In’ that I think you should hone in on and makes you unique. Love it, subscribing now - Marc please stay 👏🏾
@silverc4s146
@silverc4s146 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic synergy here. Good brains at work, not a lot of ego involved, and there is a lot to learn. Please meet weekly and give us a treat like this again!
@abel.3000
@abel.3000 Жыл бұрын
Best podcast I’ve heard in a long time, so refreshing. Keep up guys ❤❤
@slamslidestyle
@slamslidestyle Жыл бұрын
YES and pt2 the next day? Thank you! The combination of humorous and playful conversation, mixes well with the high level explanations and breakdowns.
@NuanceOverDogma
@NuanceOverDogma 12 күн бұрын
What popular and respected Christian uses victim narratives vs popular and respected Jews or atheists who are known for their victim narratives thru the woke cult movement
@jasonoconner7863
@jasonoconner7863 Жыл бұрын
Heck yeah! Listening to y'all while I'm building. Good stuff.
@jasonoconner7863
@jasonoconner7863 Жыл бұрын
Damn, I want that grey, "There Will Be Blood" final act sweater Dan's wearing.
@cactustree918
@cactustree918 Жыл бұрын
This is the kind of thought leadership we are missing in the public discourse.
@antoniof6952
@antoniof6952 Жыл бұрын
This type of conversations is EXACTLY what we need. I like the all in pod but please keep this format, it's 100x better than just talking about the news/current thing
@auroraideas4409
@auroraideas4409 Жыл бұрын
My new favorite podcast! Keep it going!
@LaceMuzic
@LaceMuzic Жыл бұрын
real review here: thanks guys for uploading the second part, i think the first part is amazing and perfect how it is, and a new fan like me can click into your page and watch another hour of this second chunk here, it is probably more concise this way and i absolutely love the convos and info i'm gaining from watching and listening, thanks guys!
@smitacharya6024
@smitacharya6024 Жыл бұрын
Love the deep-dive into philosophy and history. Think it differentiates from just commentating on the week's current events (All-In) given there's likely a lot of overlap there between the two "pods"
@calvincoolidge6627
@calvincoolidge6627 Жыл бұрын
This was better than all the discussions in all my college classes.
@daveweinstein6434
@daveweinstein6434 Жыл бұрын
This is great, keep going!
@angusnunn5844
@angusnunn5844 Жыл бұрын
Great content - keep it up
@julius422
@julius422 Жыл бұрын
This was incredible. Can't find this type of discussion anywhere, and with smart good people. I would love more of this type of content. Thanks gents. Keep talking about NIetzsche!
@19battlehill
@19battlehill Жыл бұрын
You must be one ignorant person. These people are pure evil and you think they are good? Try learning something yourself instead listening to half truths and lies.
@dave7244
@dave7244 10 ай бұрын
They had no idea what they were talking about.
@michaeldimatteo8290
@michaeldimatteo8290 Жыл бұрын
Great podcast!
@ronf28
@ronf28 Жыл бұрын
You've got a new sub!
@irmazandl
@irmazandl Жыл бұрын
LOVE this podcast, guys!! However, re ChatGPT, I've been using it for the last few days and it's been SERIOUSLY DEFICIENT. I'd dial back my expectations on that one!!
@thephilosophicalagnostic2177
@thephilosophicalagnostic2177 Ай бұрын
I love this. Say the magic incantation and people will do what you want. Much snickering. :)
@tylerbranch6082
@tylerbranch6082 Жыл бұрын
You guys tackling philosophy and religion in episode 2 is bold. All In guys would never ;) Love the show.
@byroncrowell1127
@byroncrowell1127 Жыл бұрын
Saint Paul as a growth hacker. Now that's a new one. Jaded and cynical but a somewhat entertaining and a thought experiment. Cheers guys.
@tomm5905
@tomm5905 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic guys, great competition of the All in pod. No annoying Jcal.
@reedjohnny4635
@reedjohnny4635 Жыл бұрын
Well, I was most excited when you mentioned Burnham!
@MomentofZenPodcast
@MomentofZenPodcast Жыл бұрын
Well I have another hour of Burnham discussion coming out in the next few weeks, stay tuned - Erik
@sucim
@sucim Жыл бұрын
What the hell is this?! And why is it soo great?! I‘m hooked!
@loudmanCA
@loudmanCA Жыл бұрын
Re: Elites and revolution: A lot of that discussion reminded me of Anne Applebaum’s Twilight of Democracy. Could you guys invite her on and just do a fireside chat? Would be dope to hear her and Marc chat about modern day elites, power struggles, etc.
@kreek22
@kreek22 Жыл бұрын
Applebaum: another neocon. Neocon = Trotskyist. Evil and boring people.
@ryanlasek4199
@ryanlasek4199 Жыл бұрын
So good
@BurningQuestionLLC
@BurningQuestionLLC Жыл бұрын
Bravo!
@warrenwelsh
@warrenwelsh Жыл бұрын
is this part 2 already !?!
@andre-le-bone-aparte
@andre-le-bone-aparte Жыл бұрын
@41:01 - WHY... 😢- Why punish us with ads and promo material. It turns a great conversation into "just another podcast"
@MomentofZenPodcast
@MomentofZenPodcast Жыл бұрын
Gotta pay the bills
@dmosher
@dmosher Жыл бұрын
Great discussion of the professional managerial class and how Elon has upended that. The first few weeks of attacks against him owning Twitter was the PMC trying to reject him to no avail.
@therealjayz8036
@therealjayz8036 Жыл бұрын
So you think Twitter is still worth $44 billion as we speak?
@swish6143
@swish6143 Жыл бұрын
@@therealjayz8036 Net worth is something the PMC worries about. Do you care about the market value of a car if you bought one last week?
@BYZNIZ
@BYZNIZ Ай бұрын
Twilight of the idols Was a good read in Highschool
@TedRicasa
@TedRicasa Жыл бұрын
Really great discussion. Would someone mind telling who these guys are? I only recognize Andreessen.
@Eternalspring22
@Eternalspring22 Жыл бұрын
His disciples?
@flourking
@flourking Жыл бұрын
Cool new podcast guys. Hoping for better results than all in which has turned into just a politics banter & Elon simpfest
@kreek22
@kreek22 Жыл бұрын
Cool comment, except for the grammar.
@ethanherdrick9950
@ethanherdrick9950 Жыл бұрын
Where is part 2?
@mechhyena6957
@mechhyena6957 Жыл бұрын
This is the "All In Podcast" on Wish. The off-brand "All In Podcast".
@ezyryder11
@ezyryder11 Жыл бұрын
39:51 according to David Sacks on All-In they don’t work lol 🙄
@ChrisAthanas
@ChrisAthanas 10 ай бұрын
If you want to be a part of the cathedral you are likely going to be singing in the choir and nodding along to the sermons It's not mysterious
@ArtMun79
@ArtMun79 Жыл бұрын
Great show! What are your Twitter handles
@sebastianaguiarbrunemeier9192
@sebastianaguiarbrunemeier9192 Жыл бұрын
Cool that Marc Andreessen is becoming radicalized... You should have Balaji on also.
@quaidcarlobulloch9300
@quaidcarlobulloch9300 Жыл бұрын
30:00-32:00 = beautiful
@landonh
@landonh Жыл бұрын
Confusing this was broken into two episodes. Why do they start the same. I skipped this because I thought I had seen it
@quaidcarlobulloch9300
@quaidcarlobulloch9300 Жыл бұрын
23:12 Steve Jobs!
@ChrisAthanas
@ChrisAthanas 10 ай бұрын
7:19 yeah religion is not a thing for most people Most people are just trying to survive So the grift is normal Ethics are secondary
@MrBSmizzle
@MrBSmizzle Жыл бұрын
20:00 Prince Harry!!
@Gutenmorgenside
@Gutenmorgenside Жыл бұрын
Not a patch on the All in podcast. Lacks eloquence.
@eric.aaron.castro
@eric.aaron.castro Жыл бұрын
“God is a conjecture: but I ask that your conjecturing not reach further than your creating will.” - Thus Spoke Zarathustra
@Ellerich800
@Ellerich800 Жыл бұрын
Mark needs a better mic. He sounds muted
@jijomathew613
@jijomathew613 Жыл бұрын
😎
@andre-le-bone-aparte
@andre-le-bone-aparte Жыл бұрын
Just in case anyone was wondering why they are talking about religion, it's so they can better explain Elon who is giving his fortune away to save us from our sins on Twitter.
@aliomar9622
@aliomar9622 Жыл бұрын
A thousand year empire?
@Ztube111
@Ztube111 Жыл бұрын
People can't care for the sake of caring?
@zelda7239
@zelda7239 Жыл бұрын
"God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us?"
@notwilliamlee
@notwilliamlee Жыл бұрын
Marc is goated
@jimmyjimmy5574
@jimmyjimmy5574 Жыл бұрын
So let me get this: Low-production podcasts are the biggest cultural contribution the 'dissident' Silicon Valley tech bros have decided to make? Like seriously, that's all the contribution you believe you can make? What the f*** is all that money good for then? Just end it and let them win.
@kreek22
@kreek22 Жыл бұрын
What a whine.
@f18a
@f18a Жыл бұрын
Great discussion of religion -- if one ignores Confucianism, Hinduism, Buddhism, and many other activities of the Ancient Era.
@joshreji7510
@joshreji7510 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@loudmanCA
@loudmanCA Жыл бұрын
Moment of Zen > All In because at least these dudes don’t pretend like the world started when they started paying attention-appreciated the history lessons. Keep it up. Also, can you invite Timothy Snyder on to dunk on David Sacks’ and Elon Musk’s takes on Ukraine please? :)
@kreek22
@kreek22 Жыл бұрын
Snyder is a propagandist for the neocons. Boring and predictable. Why not just invite Dick Cheney on? Or raise up Rumsfeld?
@swish6143
@swish6143 Жыл бұрын
Just watch both. Diversity of opinions is a great thing.
@AminCad
@AminCad Жыл бұрын
Christianity doesn't elevate victimhood. It elevates sacrifice, which is deeply linked to human compassion, which in turn is a uniquely warm-blooded-animal trait that is essential to child rearing.
@kurtjohnston8370
@kurtjohnston8370 Жыл бұрын
People were compassionate to their children long before a jew supposedly performed magic tricks.
@nicholaselliott2484
@nicholaselliott2484 Жыл бұрын
@@kurtjohnston8370 way to add snark to change hearts and minds!
@kreek22
@kreek22 Жыл бұрын
That begs the question of the origin of the victim morality hysteria operating today in the West. If its ultimate genealogy is not Christian, what do you suppose it is?
@frankjennings4489
@frankjennings4489 Жыл бұрын
Christianity is not a single philosophy. Some iterations promote victimhood more strongly than others.
@AminCad
@AminCad Жыл бұрын
@@kreek22 I think the rise of the victimhood culture is a hack on the empathy-for-young-children instinct. By triggering that instinct, opportunists can evoke panic and shut down critical thinking.
@zdmc23
@zdmc23 Жыл бұрын
Antonio mentions St. Paul being responsible for Christianity finding market-fit, sure, but then you all proceed to discuss Christianity only in terms of the Crucifixion and never mention the Resurrection. It was the same St. Paul who said: "And if Christ has not been raised from the dead, then all our preaching is useless, and your faith is useless. And we apostles would all be lying about God-for we have said that God raised Christ from the grave... And if our hope in Christ is only for this life, we are more to be pitied than anyone in the world" (1 Cor. 15:14-15,19) There is plenty that could be said and done in WEIRD societies if we stopped decoupling hope from victim morality. The hope that "moral arc of the universe is long but bends towards justice", or the hope of "a more perfect union" being formed, or the hope that reconciliation is possible and that historical sins need not be atoned for indefinitely in some quasi purgatory, etc... That said, if we are looking to Christianity simply as a model to describe (or even to shape) modern societies, rather than actually believing in the Messiah, then "we are fools to be pitied" PS. Christianity does recognize heroes and individual capabilities (see: Parable of Talents), it's just that when you zoom-out and compare humans to God and to the Messiah, then those capabilities are insignificant and make the human hierarchy very flat. Genghis Khan, Alexander, others commanded empires. Jesus commanded Nature ("who is this that even the wind and the sea obey him?!"). Not even remotely comparable
@SageShepherd241
@SageShepherd241 Жыл бұрын
excellent show. I like hearing the discussion but it would be good to get a little more debate and less group think. Marc Andreessen's view of history seems blinded by Ayn Rand. Its a little more a reading of her philosophy and a little less reading of Nietzsche. Using Niethzsche's name to argue for fascism is an age-old misreading only one aspect of his writing. You have to read him in context. Taking his writing and placing it in modern context to argue for a strong arm leader of centralized fascist ideology that runs rampant in business community is itself a derranged religious morality. Only Marc Andreessen can complain about victim culture in one breath and then center his own "hero" archetype of privledged opressor is the true vicitm. Its an astonishing level lacking self-awareness and self-delusion.
@kreek22
@kreek22 Жыл бұрын
"to argue for a strong arm leader of centralized fascist ideology" A childish misrepresentation.
@wantstocomment7092
@wantstocomment7092 Жыл бұрын
what sets humans apart from other apes is the use of ideas about the collective. slave morality unequivocally is core to the universal ideal of democracy. I don't think I like how nietzche's moral philosophy is used here. I can make a more compelling case on the opposite side of the spectrum that also accommodates a notion of progress.
@kreek22
@kreek22 Жыл бұрын
I can make a more compelling case --so do it.
@swish6143
@swish6143 Жыл бұрын
Then please do
@commentstan
@commentstan Жыл бұрын
@@swish6143 philosophy degrees are expensive. 10k.
@bleacherz7503
@bleacherz7503 Жыл бұрын
Hey - we are only losing $1 Trillion a year - that is one trillion is being scooped up the corporate takers
@kreek22
@kreek22 Жыл бұрын
meaningless blabber
@SamuelHauptmannvanDam
@SamuelHauptmannvanDam Жыл бұрын
Come on. Really? No one arguing against everything being a sign of Christianity? Seems super lazy.
@kreek22
@kreek22 Жыл бұрын
Secularized Christianity.
@thephilosophicalagnostic2177
@thephilosophicalagnostic2177 Ай бұрын
And then there's the WEIRD societies. AKA Minnesota Nice. Hi dere. Goin' fishin'? Ya, up to da lake...
@bleacherz7503
@bleacherz7503 Жыл бұрын
managerial class doesn’t invent anything - Apple is the Worlds largest managerial lead company ???
@kreek22
@kreek22 Жыл бұрын
They invented a few things under Jobs, but then...
@EFCasual
@EFCasual Жыл бұрын
Imagine if this guy read Imperium instead of Dominion.
@kreek22
@kreek22 Жыл бұрын
It may be that almost any morality, when unloosed from pragmatic pressures such as state survival, pursues its principles to the limit and becomes destructive and insane. The American ruling class has been wallowing in a low threat international environment for 30 years. They have lost their sense of what is necessary to ensure long term survival of their state. All of their institutions are devolving into morality plays that entail incompetence becoming a virtue. Merit is demoted in education in favor of the promotion of arbitrarily designated "victim" groups. The military expends significant resources on ever expanding social programs rather than focusing on its quite crucial mission. Intelligence agencies are warped into tools for enforcing "victim" obsessed speech codes. All of the institutions are homogenized into this movement, their functionality and credibility simultaneously impaired. Something analogous happened when China under Mao attempted to take communist morality to the limit, and achieved the madness of the Cultural Revolution. The people suffered, the state was weakened. What followed was Deng's wise confinement of communist morality to the realm of rhetoric, whilst in the world of action he undertook thoroughly anti-communist revitalization of state and society.
@suleimanpeshawari1032
@suleimanpeshawari1032 Жыл бұрын
SBF did a favor to humanity! He ended all the hype around crypto. Done and dusted forever
@kreek22
@kreek22 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps hyperbole.
@beaubeau6498
@beaubeau6498 Жыл бұрын
Tell us you missed the bullrun without telling us you missed the bullrun
@suleimanpeshawari1032
@suleimanpeshawari1032 Жыл бұрын
@@beaubeau6498 I did miss bullshit run and for sure don’t miss missing it
@markwalker1152
@markwalker1152 Жыл бұрын
right? right? right? right? right? right? right? right? right? um, right?
@user-wj8pi5bj3k
@user-wj8pi5bj3k Жыл бұрын
What in the all in podcast knock off Is this
@NuanceOverDogma
@NuanceOverDogma 12 күн бұрын
These guys zero about Christianity like Nietzsche
@justtestingonce
@justtestingonce Жыл бұрын
Why is this so boring?
@bleacherz7503
@bleacherz7503 Жыл бұрын
It’s the exhaust of speech drag racing
@dave7244
@dave7244 10 ай бұрын
I listed to a fair bit of this. The concept that Jesus was just an obscure criminal is so reductionalist is asinine. I am pretty sure that these are 4 dudes have no idea what they are talking about.
@pranavpalasamudram6119
@pranavpalasamudram6119 Жыл бұрын
This is so boring!
@Kid_Ikaris
@Kid_Ikaris Жыл бұрын
Someone killing themselves is hilarious? Right off the bat these guys are openly admitting they are evil.
@abbefolkseger6927
@abbefolkseger6927 Жыл бұрын
17:50 doing that as Adult is different- Consent for physical Harm ;)
@trumpyla
@trumpyla Жыл бұрын
The Darth Vader! #Pmarca
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