What do you think of the new March of the Machine Team Up Commanders? Are you planning on building any of them? Are there any synergies or combos that we missed?
@Kasperbentsen1992 Жыл бұрын
Any particular reason that Drana and Linvala didn't make the cut for any of the team up videos?
@obadijahparks Жыл бұрын
Having Rachel is a joy. She's become my favorite part of any video.
@dragonmaster1601 Жыл бұрын
Her insight is great to making decks
@DorianTXDH Жыл бұрын
Big agree. I like the whole team but she's such a great addition.
@redzone4412 Жыл бұрын
Honestly so true
@tattooman3603 Жыл бұрын
Rachel is an amazing font of knowledge and wisdom. Great player as well. Such a good addition to the team.
@frikifit Жыл бұрын
Agree. I don’t really care when they bring anyone else 😅
@BlueFox571 Жыл бұрын
Came for Yargle and Multani, stayed for Quintorius. The 'Mandatory cards' section was gold.
@TheRedKnightOfPain Жыл бұрын
Too bad a lot of the cards with elephants aren't that good after you cut out green...
@DieFrauAmHerd Жыл бұрын
Same :D Pulled both Yargle Deck is done already Quintorius is probably next
@johanneskuther Жыл бұрын
I had to laugh so hard as Jimmy said: hmmmm hermit druid.... my favourite card ever😂 The hermit druid activation was one of my favourite moments in game knights and extra turns ever. The odds Jimmy! The odds🙈 Awesome video at all of you😊
@MakinaMakinaMakina Жыл бұрын
Wait till you see the newest one, fair to say it’s shown how good it really is!
@STS-qi1qy Жыл бұрын
'Not many two card infinite combos in recent sets' was a bit funny knowing that Shalai and Hallar is yet to be discussed.
@RPGMusicMaker Жыл бұрын
A "Rankle and Torbrand" deck looks so much fun. I used to play a mono-red burn with Torbran as my commander that would bring hate around the table. I can't wait to do it again but in Rakdos.
@mlow239 Жыл бұрын
I think Bitter Reunion is one of the best cards they've printed in YEARS. It's just a lowly common and I have put it in almost every red commander deck I have. And I only say almost because I didn't have enough copies to put in all of them.
@TheyCallMeDio Жыл бұрын
What I like about Kroxa and Kunoros is that Kroxa is basically walking his dog lol
@micahbush9543 Жыл бұрын
Slime foot and squee is definitely going in my henzie blitz deck. You don’t get the blitz cost reduction but you get 2 saprolings get to sac it to get it in the graveyard and draw a card. Look at the value! Haha
@jayjayhooksch1 Жыл бұрын
Zimone and Dina has been a joy to build. There is so much redundancy in the effects that they want that the deck doesn't feel like it builds itself. For example you can run 8 of each effect with some card draw and still inact your game plan consistently. Or you can run the best 3-4 of each effect and a stack of tutors if you want to power up your list.
@teradul2480 Жыл бұрын
Slimefoot and Squee are so easy to go infinite that you don't even really need the Phyrexian altar, depending on what you're bringing back. All you need is a creature that on etb/dying gets you 2 mana with a sac outlet that's free and can give you mana, which could also be a Skirk Prospector or a Thermopod. There are A LOT of different card combos that'll get you there, which means that if you build it like a combo deck you can get there really easily.
@minine6508 Жыл бұрын
It's really goofy, but using Curse of the Restless Dead with Zimone and Dina, targeting yourself, is so just so good and so hilarious
@snakeman830 Жыл бұрын
Especially if you use Ghost Town to ensure you can always have a land to put into play with the activation.
@ZypherWildfire Жыл бұрын
6:40 I find [Mesmiric Orb] to be a great self-mill card.
@bashlindsay7618 Жыл бұрын
I am already planning on building a Lands deck around Thalia and The Gitrog Monster and a Landfall deck around Zimone and Dina. They are going to be awesome/
@jameseddleman6944 Жыл бұрын
I'm doing a land-turn-into-creatures Horde of Notions. Not really focusing on the grave part of it, though by happen stance most land based stuff are elemental. Use the bridges and creatures that give lands counters. Sac lands that happen to be creatures to get things like a grave pact to proc.
@Anew522 Жыл бұрын
Jimmy: "This thing, on average, will mill you 20 to 30 cards" Also Jimmy: The first card was a basic land
@Thessik73 Жыл бұрын
Love that you guys covered Yargle and Multani.
@alexanderberezin9052 Жыл бұрын
If they are going to play Squee and Slimefoot, the creature voiceline should be "You cannot kill us... In a way that matters!"
@michaelgleason4117 Жыл бұрын
Super pumped for squee and slimefoot, squee has always been one of my favorites, and one of the first standard decks I built was slimefoot, which I later made into a commander deck.
@teradul2480 Жыл бұрын
Zurgo and Ojutai's trigger is "one or more dragons" so it doesn't count each individual dragon. I think that it could be a powerful control deck just from the consistent card advantage you get by casting it every turn with stuff like Candlekeep Librarian, Defiler of Truth, Kindred Discovery (a card that works as well if not better in the dragon tribal version) and stuff like that.
@aaronvincent816 Жыл бұрын
Yargle and Multani+ruthless technomancer+marionette master seems like an insta win….
@CameronPlaysMC1 Жыл бұрын
super excited to see the rest of this set
@MikhailHudon_ZerithFarron Жыл бұрын
Yargle and Multani has reminded me of one thing I thought strange coming in from YuGiOh; The lack of Vanilla centric strategies. Some of the scariest things at some point in the metta was things that would let you cheat in, tutor or do crazy things but they would only look for "Normal Monsters" the vanillas of that game. Considering there's so many old things in the game that have no abilities I think it would be a cool way to get some extra life out of some classics if you could do something whacky like all Vanillas get protection from non-vanilla creatures.
@rwmj_7569 Жыл бұрын
I enjoy everytime they talk about landfall with white and don't say a single word about Norn, MoM. It's like they don't want to draw attention to it.
@kevinkooreman3920 Жыл бұрын
Sultai goodstuff! I love everything zimone and dina bring to the table
@jaguarlineman Жыл бұрын
So excited to put Surrak and Goreclaw in my Zangief "Bears and 'Bears'" deck!
@rodrigocosta2365 Жыл бұрын
Quintorius is a gigachad, everyone fighting together while Quintorius is doing everything alone
@quaroaquilinusbarfing9700 Жыл бұрын
My favourite two presenters for card reviews!
@grantbolanos1364 Жыл бұрын
What happened to Drana and Linvala???
@doc2850 Жыл бұрын
shes harder to build a deck around because her effect is based on your opponents creatures.
@kylefelker645 Жыл бұрын
They strike me as a better card for the 99 than as a commander. I’d imagine that’s why they didn’t make the cut for discussion. They were very clear up front that they weren’t going to discuss every team-up creature in the set.
@alexanderforbes1452 Жыл бұрын
I feel like it would have been worth it for the ones not mentioned to just throw them up on screen and give a twenty second explanation for each why they weren't given a deep dive. Even just showing them when they were saying they were gonna leave some out.
@malmasterson3890 Жыл бұрын
Thalia and The Gitrog Monster is a gamechanger for Abzan. They started off this year as the least popular color identity among 3 & 2 color pairs. Much like Propser was for Rakdos, it is the Golosmander of Abzan and will hopefully be just the beginning of their upward trajectory this year.
@victorbourguignon6897 Жыл бұрын
im a bit sad the great work myrkul has been putting in to lift abzan is not mentioned here but i think its fair to say thalirog is pretty cool too.
@malmasterson3890 Жыл бұрын
@Victor Bourguignon Myrkul really isn't the type of commander that can fill this role. It's interesting for what it is, but it's rise to the top of Abzan is really just because of how daft the pool of new options has been for them these past few years. It's much more like the Yurlok of Abzan than it is a resurgence for the color identity.
@victorbourguignon6897 Жыл бұрын
@@malmasterson3890 Perhaps though i do believe myrkul gives a lot of potential avenues for build without being to restrictive if you are looking for something not too competitive. Thay being said im also on your side, i do love seeing more attention go to abzan. Im interested in seeing whether or not they will keep the color pairing supplied with new and interesting options.
@rynebillings2226 Жыл бұрын
At least Abzan will get a precon with Commander masters. Maybe with the enchantment matters deck, the color combination will see some more love.
@RafaGonzalezGouveia Жыл бұрын
Really good video, I liked very much how the thumbnail of this video is related to part 1s thumbnail, kind of a mirror image!
@dragonman979 Жыл бұрын
I have had slimefoot & squee built for 3 weeks now (with only the commander proxied) and I will say, you need other things that make saporlings in your deck. Sprouting thrinax & tukatongue thallid being some of the most consistent.
@jayd0lin214 Жыл бұрын
Slimefoot and squee goes infinite with phyrexian altar and pitiless plunderer. I have already built the commander before it has even come out xD reanimation has always been one of my favorite archetypes in magic
@tylerjohnson8475 Жыл бұрын
I'm excited for the new Quintorious. He'll probably end up in the deck of my old Quintorious deck.
@segagenesisMTG91 Жыл бұрын
If I wasn't already excited enough to brew and build Zimone and Dina, to know Rachel favors Zimone and Dina as well makes my heart fill with joy, and yes I agree with her statement: my playgroup is going to dislike me when I play this deck😂
@franzsturm9168 Жыл бұрын
A marvelous romp through the fun that is to come, well done as usual. I've got my Yargle and Multani deck ready to go, just waiting on the commander card. Rankle and Torbran seem like so much fun, particularly the thought of them marauding against the Phyrexians, I might have to build them as well. I do like the thought of Zurgo and Ojutai simply to have a use for Adult Gold Dragon and friends in a place that might make good use for them.
@nathanwatts2909 Жыл бұрын
I think Thalia and the Gitrog monster is amazing, I plan on making it an Abzan Aristocrats deck.
@nerdstrong Жыл бұрын
I'm all about Zimone and Dina, even working on a build for standard I love the theme so much
@johngoodmans_thanksgiving_7867 Жыл бұрын
Rankle and Torbran is universal, so there are times where you won’t pick the +2 damage; e.g.: your opponent has a Goblin Sharpshooter.
@joeythegamer1 Жыл бұрын
When I was brewing for Slimefoot and Squee, Flayer of the Hatebound was a card that did some interesting things.
@oogabooga2910 Жыл бұрын
I was really looking forward to Shalai and Hallar being discussed, I know it’s one of those niche ones that lean heavily in a particular direction but some insight coming from the lords of commander themselves would’ve been cool! Nonetheless, am still excited to see them build frightening decks to play on Game Knights!
@kylefelker645 Жыл бұрын
That card isn’t in the main set. It will probably get a discussion in a separate video on the precon commanders.
@oogabooga2910 Жыл бұрын
@@kylefelker645 Ahhh gotcha, thank you kind sir!
@oogabooga2910 Жыл бұрын
@@kylefelker645 but also, could you explain what the main set means? like how is it not a part of March of the Machine set? sorry, still a bit new to magic
@kylefelker645 Жыл бұрын
It is true that the precons are part of the overall set. However, the command zone tends to separate out discussions of precon cards from discussion of cards that are not in the precons.
@oogabooga2910 Жыл бұрын
@@kylefelker645 ahhh i gotcha, so just like the convocation deck reveal, they’ll go through each one maybe?
@Shank40 Жыл бұрын
Who wants to bet that Josh is playing Zimonne and Dina on the next Game Knights?
@minine6508 Жыл бұрын
Yesss, I was so excited to see Zimone be put on a card that actually cranks!
@vincentmontplaisir9112 Жыл бұрын
My Thalia and the Gitrog monster include some "keyword matter" cards. First strike and Deathtouch are super strong. Add vigilance and / or trample and you just kik it up a bunch. Witch Odrik and the token that landfall let you get and you have something very interesting!
@malmasterson3890 Жыл бұрын
I already have 6 builds lined up for Thalrog and I didn't even consider Keyword Matters This commander is so awesome, and I'm definitely stealing this because having Odric, Gitrog Monster, and Thalia in a keyword matters deck is fun on so many levels lol.
@trumpets101 Жыл бұрын
I'm already building Zimone and Dina. When I saw them revealed, I fell in love immediately. I just want to durdle around drawing some cards, playing some lands, and churning some moderate value. Not going fully competitive with it. Just something to easily say "I did the thing" and not have to care about interacting with the board too much. Let me draw my cards and have a good time :)
@johnfraney4268 Жыл бұрын
I'm with Rachel, Zimone and Dina is dope. There's probably a fair/fun way to do it!
@6969pumpking Жыл бұрын
For zurgo and ojutai aether vial seems sweet
@danielklinkner Жыл бұрын
Minor quibble, but the magic number for Kroxa and Kuronos is six cards in the graveyard, not five. You need to have something left to reanimate after exiling the five to "pay" for the ability.
@gibbysg8143 Жыл бұрын
When I think about this set and magic in general lately the amount of videos this channel has typically done covering all the precons, etc. in the past seems like an impossible amount of work given how often things come out now lol I empathize with you all. Looking forward to all the new stuff!
@AndresDm101 Жыл бұрын
i absolutely love Rachel! shes an amazing addition to the team
@OfficialBarbarose Жыл бұрын
Love a part 2
@evanmiller7993 Жыл бұрын
Ruthless Technomancer plus academy manufacturer would make 36 sacrificial artifacts and 18 treasures. 3 treasure mana and 18 of the sacrificial artifacts to get back Y&M, 4 treasure mana for Sabertooth, 2 treasure mana to bounce the Ruthless Technomancer, 3 treasure mana to recast it. You spent 12 treasures for mana to do this loop but got 18. And you have 18 Food or Clues, so infinite life and draw your deck. It's a 4 card combo, but if you sacrifice Y&M to draw cards equal to power two or three times and you can easily just stumble into the combo. And because all the pieces are creatures, recursion and tutors can make it a bit consistent.
@Chaoslorden Жыл бұрын
Many of these commanders are "where I'll put those loose cards I got here and there and it becomes a deck". Abzan landfall and stuff? Sure, slap some cards in there, should be good enough. Monogreen stomp? Yeah I got cards that didn't fit other green decks so I can build yet another one and it should be good enough. Boros spirits? Yeah I got some leftovers, let's pile it up and play!
@jomilagaming7136 Жыл бұрын
I'm going to the Orlando Commandfest, very sad you guys won't be there :( ... Maybe next time
@EpicGamerz01 Жыл бұрын
I’m building Thalia and the Gitrog Monster as an Umori companion deck with a hatebear theme. My friends will hate me
@genefranklin4862 Жыл бұрын
Pull From Eternity is really good in the new Kroxa.
@tobias2287 Жыл бұрын
Much as I love your work, you did *not* do thorough research with Slimefoot and Squee. It goes infinite with a card called Sprouting Thrinax, from Shards of Alara, as well as Phyrexian Altar. You cast your commander, make a saproling. You sac the thrinax to the altar, making three more saprolings and a mana of any color. You sac your commander and three of your now four saprolings to make five mana total, spending four of it to bring back your commander and thrinax. Rinse and repeat until you have infinite mana. You also get infinite creatures by sacrificing two saprolings instead of three, breaking even on mana but netting one creature each time.
@dominicsandoval2214 Жыл бұрын
Excited to build ghalta and mavren
@alexanderl187 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see you in Denver!
@j-dubz2349 Жыл бұрын
When talking about Surrak and Goreclaw, how did they leave out Ohran Frostfang, Saryth Viper's Fang, and Bow of Nylea? Oh then oops, here's a Fynn the Fangbearer.
@javahikage Жыл бұрын
Slimefoot and Squee can go infinite with Avenger of Zendikar and Phyrexian Altar, as long as you have 3 or more lands you reanimate S&S alongside Avenger of Zendikar, which creates 3 plant tokens and 1 saproling token. Then you sacrifice 2 plants, Avenger and S&S to pay for S&S ability. You're up 1 plant token each time you do this, and that's with the minimum of 3 lands, imagine that with 8 lands and Impact Tremors.
@shjerven Жыл бұрын
In Boros Loremaster . You cast worldfire from your graveyard. Then cast Tefari protection
@rynebillings2226 Жыл бұрын
If you could untap Quintorius, you could sacrifice a spirit for Worldfire and then do it again for Delayed Blast Fireball, letting you just KO the table in a single turn. It's a bit telegraphed though.
@enjoyskymall Жыл бұрын
im going to put rankle and torbran in my Vazi deck for sure
@tameless7417 Жыл бұрын
Shalai and hallar!?!?!?!?!
@Tactical_0ni Жыл бұрын
I'm sad Shalai & Hallar didn't get any love.
@oogabooga2910 Жыл бұрын
@@Tactical_0ni sameeeeeeeee
@ln5425 Жыл бұрын
Jimmy, you excited me with Emeria Angel saying it would yield Angel tokens until I saw they were Bird tokens.
@MIFFmiff2112 Жыл бұрын
I caught that Rudy “OUPHE!”
@kainestewart5017 Жыл бұрын
Slimefoot, phyrexian altar, and the critter that sacs on etb and makes treasures equal to power goes infinite. I'm pretty sure it's infinite life too.
@jeremyjohnson4855 Жыл бұрын
“Size matters in commander”💀
@FarmallFarmer Жыл бұрын
As someone who lives 30 minutes from the Atlantic ocean I wouldn't call Minneapolis closer to the east coast 🤣
@nickkertzer3047 Жыл бұрын
Quintorius and cellar door would be good with cascade. As they may let you get the things the initial cascade revealed but missed.
@kurtisohlhausen1538 Жыл бұрын
Slimefoot and squee is definitely going in my korvold deck I like this card very much
@mega2009man Жыл бұрын
Quint is best boi and I can't wait for his planeswalker card 🥰 leave my boi alone cuz he's precious. He definitely needs to trigger his first ability multiple times
@olivierdebilde4292 Жыл бұрын
Zurgo and Ojutai dragons ETB could work with warstorm surge, sneak attack, dragon tempest... and board wipes. Not the best but there's still an idea there.
@nickdemunguia1107 Жыл бұрын
Are you sure the K and K + Altar combo works? The creature card that is returned is targeted, which typically means you have to have a target when the etb is placed on the stack.
@bmboucher1 Жыл бұрын
This
@doors54 Жыл бұрын
Because it says "when you do", it's what's referred to as a reflexive trigger, triggered by exiling 5 cards from your graveyard. the target isn't chosen until you decide to exile the 5. if it said "if you do" instead, you'd have to have a target in advance.
@hiddenleaf414 Жыл бұрын
Yea I thought it didn’t work but it is a reflexive trigger so the target only needs to be declared after the payment, not when it gets put on the stack.
@nickdemunguia1107 Жыл бұрын
@@doors54 gotcha, was not aware of this. Thanks
@doors54 Жыл бұрын
Slimefoot & Squee have infinites wiith cards like Bloodspore Thrinax (which makes 3 saprolings on etb), Siege Gang Commander (3 goblins), and many others w/Phyrexian Altar, as well as Dockside as long as you can make 4 treasures and you have a free sac outlet... I feel like the infinites potential with them was completely missed in your evaluation... you didn't seem to think infinites were possible at all when they VERY MUCH are. Naya Dragons came out with Rith, Liberated Primeval just a few sets ago, so there's that option for dragons with white as well! I built that one around earthquake effects with loads of dragons and tribal support.
@vg6011 Жыл бұрын
this is very very helpfull keep up all of the gooid werk.
@StevoM08 Жыл бұрын
If you’re gonna add Tormod and Desecrated Tomb, etc Conspiracy might be worth it. Make all the things saprolings!
@stephensilverstein4855 Жыл бұрын
Question don't we have to choose our target with Kroxa and Kunoros' 'return target creature card from your graveyard when we put the 'may exile five cards from your graveyard' on the stack? so it can't go infinite with itself and Alter? Not suggesting that it's not powerful though.
@CervantesVI Жыл бұрын
It works because K&K's trigger is a "Reflexive Trigger." Reflexive Triggers resolve like this: First they have an optional cost you can pay to continue the effect. in K&K's case, it's exiling five cards when it ETBs or attacks. This first half of the ability goes on the stack and can be responded to. This gives you the opportunity to sac it to Altar of Dementia and mill six cards. Now you go to resolve the trigger, and you exile the five cards. This then puts a second trigger on the stack that's the second half of the ability. At this point, you're able to target K&K with the ability, since they're in the graveyard now. You can spot a Reflexive Trigger pretty easily, because they will always say "When you do, " in the text for the ability.
@CervantesVI Жыл бұрын
If the ability said something like "When Kroxas and Kunoros enters the battlefield or attacks, you may exile five cards from your graveyard, then return target creature card from your graveyard to the battlefield", you'd be correct that the trick with Altar of Dementia wouldn't work, because K&K wouldn't be able to see itself going to the graveyard in time to be the target.
@Russian_engineer_bmstu Жыл бұрын
Zurgo and ojutai can only Trigger 3 times, so having 3 is enough to get max value
@derekgarcia30697 ай бұрын
Did i miss Drana and Linvala?? One of my favorites of the team ups. Though probably better in the 99...
@abrahammarrero4930 Жыл бұрын
Was waiting for this thanks
@Jesse-mk9th Жыл бұрын
[[Heartwarming redemption]] is great for boros looting
@mRboylls Жыл бұрын
Nothing for inga and esika? I’m pretty excited about that one!
@MyDragontrainer Жыл бұрын
I pulled the alt art of rankle and torbran ^^
@Jidayun Жыл бұрын
Quint seems way too fun to pass up. I want big, chunky, artifacts and sorceries.
@rynebillings2226 Жыл бұрын
He's definitely a really cool build around. Want to sling some high CMC spells, he's your elephant. Want to play around with some big old artifacts, he's got your back. Want to play superfriends in Boros/Lorehold, he's game if you are.
@Jidayun Жыл бұрын
Could even go W/R enchantress!
@zackbonno3675 Жыл бұрын
It's funny you say Surrak and Goreclaw is the best starter commander because a friend of mine got into EDH last year with an original Goreclaw deck, who also is super easy to use
@Mr.MusicPlaylist Жыл бұрын
Yargle and multani is my favorite
@moipaz2290 Жыл бұрын
Can’t believe you guys didn’t have a +3/+X section for Yartani. There’s an aura that gives 3/3 and assign damage as tho not blocked. Just commander everyone out.
@NoGloveNoLove32 Жыл бұрын
Is there going to be a part 3 bc unless I missed it I don't seen Drana and Linvala
@shinydae3780 Жыл бұрын
I am confused why they did not partner Quintorius with Killian, who was also a important chracter in Strixhaven and would make a really cool Mardu commander.The Killian part could be that other spells or abilities that target a permanents you control cost 2 less. To balace this out, take out the "put the exile card back into the library" part. One way I see that type of commander is a Mardu enchantment deck.
@javahikage Жыл бұрын
WotC has another plan for Quintorius, read the story about the invasión on Strixhaven and the Devs Log about the lore of the Battle cards.
@Michaelki77 Жыл бұрын
I have way too many mono green decks… Eh. What’s one more? Surrak and Goreclaw must be made!!!
@HarryWilcock-fi7mm Жыл бұрын
When are you doing another game knights
@crimsonleg4237 Жыл бұрын
People are asking for Shalai/Hallar and Elenda/Azor, but those aren't from the main set. Those are from the precons. When they discuss the upgrades for those precons, they will discuss those commanders. Why is that so difficult to understand?
@rynebillings2226 Жыл бұрын
In all fairness, they don't usually go into how they'd build a deck around the alternate commanders. They usually just discuss them a small bit in concern to who is the best fit for piloting the deck, so it's only natural people would want to see a more in depth look at them.
@likemybird97 Жыл бұрын
Where was Rashmi and Ragavan! 😢
@reconstructionmanifest7349 Жыл бұрын
Kroxa deck. Gorging Vulture
@ayreon213 Жыл бұрын
hang on a minute!! where's Shalai and Hallar? :P
@Tactical_0ni Жыл бұрын
Shalai & Hallar didn't make the cut? Lol
@martinphillips2461 Жыл бұрын
Watching.
@stetsonclark8348 Жыл бұрын
I just wish I could preorder Slimefoot and Squee. Everywhere I've checked has everything from this set it seems but this one card
@dangerranger7394 Жыл бұрын
Do u know why this is the case?
@marti488 Жыл бұрын
it's coming with the Commander part of the set, those cards are not prepurchaseable yet
@stetsonclark8348 Жыл бұрын
I don't understand why they aren't though
@bryannunez5502 Жыл бұрын
Hey, guys 😀... I'm trying to get into cedh and I've seen a lot of decklists, but I can't tell which lists are good... Is there a way to tell which lists are the top performers?