WoW? Or a game grown-ups play?

who knew SNooky was so good at poker, bruh?

you should get into the movie business, combine 21 and moneyball into a movie about GTO poker and how the shift to tool-assistance is revolutionizing the game

Doug Polk Poker I watch most of your video when I have spare time.I am in China,love poker. I Love your style. I played Warcraft for years like you. Now I own a company meepoboard. And I want to send you a meepo board as gift, you may like ride a while it for clear your mind as kind of rest before poker. Could you email me your address for delivery. Kieran@meepoboard.com

Hey guys I'm a young healthy popular millionaire, you know what I'll do? Sit in front of the computer all day playing video games! Yeah!

You also need to hit cards though... aggression will make those who wish to just call for hopes and dreams to fold

Also how high you can stack your chips. Your chips increase in value the higher they are off the table.

and not being all loosey goosey at the table

brad fiser thank you for clearing that up for me...

T.J. 182 yeah. really annoying. its there way of being cool

“It’s time to retire. It’s bike time”

Tony G livens up any table. Doesn't even have to be Poker...

It's Phil who rides the bike, after G is done bullying him.

They play online! JUST A CLICK OF THE BUTTON BUT THEY WASTE MY TIME HERE!

And the Berlin Wall went up AND it came down.

@@huskyjerk hahaha

Most big hands I would imagine

Its so annoying.. play fkn cards.. i hate waiting for ppl to make a obvious action.. and thats about 80% or more of all actions in poker if u have ANY understanding of the game..

This is mind numbing slow. The times I’ve played the WSOP main I saw nothing like this.

Fuck waiting that long I would’ve called Klock three times

@@TheBroLounge I'm watching video and around 20 minute mark and paused just to comment on how long a wait this is. I cannot imagine having waited this long for Maria to make her call and not call the clock on her at this point. You had plenty of time to make your decision. Pre-flop you even had plenty of time. I'd feel more than ok to call clock on her by now.

HAHAAHAHAHAH

😂

She thought it was too much heart

@@theMagos 5050 (in her mind) that he flushed...yet, you never know. The beauty of life is taking a leap of faith...doesn't matter the outcome, you chose to go for it!

She needs Tony G to give her some poker lessons 😂😂

@@mercutio6623 no way he raised preflop like he had AK or a pair, not suited connectors

NascarAllOut Polk is greedy fucking idiot

Thanks for the heads up. I'm 5 minutes in and bored to tears already. These people should get over themselves and just play. Ridiculous

Yeah, Doug in top right screen ruined it for me. I don’t mind some perspective, but he went on and on and on and on.....

They take that long because they are contemplating the possible hands on the table. Maybe if you did the same you wouldn't be bored

@@saggybobby3733 Not sure, for example, Daniel Negreanu says the same, WTF why you should take SOOOO LONG!!

LEE KING SNATCH - I was just kidding. Like AM kidding bet. However your correct I’m a rail bird not a player. I play backgammon & pool.

Yeah, that was like watching grass grow it was so slow.

Zzzzzz i managed 2 minutes of chips being used as noise makers...then i went to a differnt poker channel

mite....lol

@volcano hi yeah I do too but not $10,000 buy-in tournaments. It's worth thinking through every decision for those stakes.

can we relabel this when tanks get together

Nah

LMFAO that's the best comment I have ever seen

@@ryandowd7040 I find the sound really soothing, though idk why they do it (Ik its a joke)

Yes, long. No, don't edit.

Amen!! Listen to this Doug!!

What makes it completely torturous is that he shows the entire round of chip shuffling and poker filibustering THEN goes back over the whole thing for his commentary! Just put the 2 together (but I guess that makes for less ad time in the video).

But what about the ads though??

thank you

Fuck you

Shes high

Shes won A LOT and took 6th here...must have a good reason for this strategy

with multiple players to act behind her, she has a tough decision, if she is up against a flush with 2 others remaining to act, she needs to board to pair or a 10 to come. Leaving her with 6-8 outs. If it would be heads up, she most likely makes the call. But with others to act behind, that can easily come over the top, her play is justified.

@Bob Yes it pairs the board, but i think i was implying it would give her quads, and the nuts

@@tyleryoung8255 The original 3 bettor shoves and over bets the pot, making a flopped flush unlikely, but a nut draw more probable. That being said, his percieved A of hearts would act as a blocker, so the 2 opponents behind her would probably not have a flush either. This was not a tough spot, but rather, tough to watch.

This is one of the reasons why poker isn't gaining new players. Who wants to sit at a table with this type of shit going on? It isn't fun. At least cash games still have a somewhat steady flow. Definitely still some tanking but no where at the level shown in this video. They should be ashamed for taking so long and calling themselves professionals.

They say the tournament is still going on to this day

When Kempe was tanking over whether to call the re-raise, I was brain-shouting, "What are you wasting everyone's time for? You can't raise, and if you call, you don't end the betting. Fold already, you maroon." Then he called.

That's why you speed up the vid 2x

lmao idiots

Lol she’s won over 4 million.

@@alexbentley486 she has obviously made a living in poker. I’m saying this is why she doesn’t win tournaments, not that she isn’t profitable.

@@iambadatpickingusernames6669 she won 4m from tournaments…

Really wrote all this just to be wrong

I really enjoyed your comment, gives me a new look at played betting heavy with k/j at times and valuing chips a certain way mid tournament

MrWilliamerickson if I were on that table I would call for a pillow and duvet😡😡😡😡😡

That's what keeps me out of the game, except for an occasional nickel-and-dime event.

Why on earth isnt there a time limit

You are the real mvp

Didn't have to watch, just read the title

😂🙌

jarofcandy exactly my point. Poor Maria so many years of experience and playing scare. There's hope for amateur players like me!

Her card was surrounded by a straight/flush draw type board. If its rainbow I bet she would have snapped it off but that was too connected of a board to call off her tournament with.

Yeah, I"m more of a gambler in poker and would have called. If he flopped a flush, so be it, you still have outs.

of course that's why she folded but it's still a bad fold. It's extremely rare to flop a flush and most who do are NOT going to JAM. Sure someone behind could have a flush but you can't play scared like that. Not every set mining situation is going to give you a picture perfect board and if it does it'll probably kill your action anyhow. Even if she WERE behind the board still pairs 30% of the time giving her a nice boat.

I would think not many people are calling a three-bet pre-flop with a preponderance of middle connectors in their range.

Yeah why doesnt this guy just re upload copyrighted material to his youtube channel without adding anything of value to it?

I would have liked to see a sped up fast-forward with Benny Hill playing in the background

I get it’s important but you could easily fast forward and talk what they’re doing. 6 mins of the camera focusing on them thinking is ridiculous

Yeah it's fucking brutal and so awkward like I'm I supposed to find this person staring off into nothing interesting or something lol

It’s probably longer in reality!!! 😂

Yeah, that was brutal. Thank god the other two players snap folded after Maria folded the best hand. If they took as a long as the first two I'd still be watching or doing something else.

someone call a clock

he didn't say that did he? i wasn't able to watch the whole clip.

Yeah. The head scratcher is, Who let her out of the insane asylum?

Nice catch, he clearly wanted a piece of Bicknell's action.

Seen that 😂

Agreed

Chris 9792 actually there was icm pressure... 2 shortish stacks make her fold acceptable. Best case scenario she's 2:1 fav, worst case she's crushed by nutflush/midling flush or pocket jacks with 2 players behind to act. Doug is pushing his brand and he's ultra aggressive tourny player who doesn't consider lot of these things as seriously as he should. Math is math it's less flashy to make such tight folds but the best tourny players who have proven tourny track records over years do it all the time. Its more of a brand thing for doug.. Cash was his main game so he could afford this style though it's def not optimal. If you don't understand ICM please look it up its not as simple as if she thinks she's ahead she should jam being the point because laddering up has lot of value longterm though it might not sell as well to your casual audience.

The Anti Alternate Reality if u call 3 bet with 10s What do u spect to flop? Trips no? Lo donk fold.

In the super suuuuuuper unlikely scenario that she's crushed by a flopped flush, she's got a relatively decent chance to hit a boat. A stronger chance to hit that boat than the chance for a player to be holding the nut flush would've been. Admit it man, she just got scared and slipped up. That's all this was.

Gustavo Fiorentini That exact texture of flop is among the worst. You are doing a classic beginner mistake understand relative strength of your hand compared to other people's complete ranges in that spot rather than the absolute strength of your hand.

Fold is ok but the long tank is even better!

He who Tank 30 minute arways find fold button...

Yep, love the tanking, was hoping they could mug for the camera for another 20 minutes. Love playing poker, watching it is painful...it’s a frickin game, not negotiations to end WW2!

It sure is!! You can get a 20+ minute KZfaq video out of a 2 street hand with standard play (except for folding a set after flat calling a 3 bet).

unbearable asswipes

Cake making

What's worse is that instead of analyzing the hand during the dead time, this video actually rewinds it and extends the pain with rewind analysis. 22 minutes to watch what we knew was going to happen via the title.

durr hurr the millennials @@ryandowd7040

@@ryandowd7040 There were also no tourney clocks before Obama either so we might as well blame it on him too, huh?

it is called fast forward.... daaa

@@theDitchdigger456 Thanks, Obama

Lose*

Not just that, the clock doesn't stop unless it's h4h. People need time to think sure and it's for a lot of money sometimes, but you gotta make decisions too lol

It's an epidemic and it's unbearable, especially if you're in the tournament.

Couldn't agree more. The wait is so unbearable. Especially preflop by both Bicknell and Ho.

misomiso I mean at that rate, I guess they played 13 hands a day?

For real dude. I tried watching the final table that had Chris Ferguson at it and it was really painful.

misomiso damn right..getting sick of TV poker

Looks like they were counting something. Does a pio solver run take that much time?

They can call a clock on anyone

#calltheclock

Bill Perkins all they gotta do is call the clock on person waiting, and they have certain amount of time to act or they will be folded. You should know this...Cmon

When you play on the Final Table of $10,000 buy-in tournament, you can have all the time you need. If you cannot wait, you can call the clock.

LOL nice

So do you think folding a made hand to a draw is correct?

@@tmartin555 for THAT hand? wagering ALL of her chips? after THAT many blinds? and looking at THAT flop? ABSOLUTELY. i'm no player obviously, but i can see through her perspective of not having the benefit of seeing anyone elses cards. if you are holding a 3 of a kind and see 3 suited cards turn, it doesn't take a mensa member to know a flush beats your hand.

@@tiggstah nice troll

@@tiggstah "I'm no player" .... nevermind. If you were a player you would know the guy isn't open shoving the flop into 3 players after flopping a flush... you would also know that you don't call a massive preflop raise with 1010 only to fold on the flop after hitting a set...i understand it's not in black and white how exactly to play that hand but fold to an open shove? Idk... maybe after a bet and raise and/or the turn being a heart I could dump my set (when it's clear that I'm beat) but anything short of that, I'm sorry but this is jus a situation where you let the cards fly and the chips fall where they may

Tigglet Like Doug said in the video, you have to be willing to get your chips in there and fight for the huge pot when you have the best hand. It’s unlikely anyone has JJ or a flush on that board. It’s pretty clear that Maria is the favorite in the situation, so you should be happy getting your stack in there to fight for this pot when it’s very unlikely anyone’s ahead of you.

Robert Aznar if you don't agree with everything that was said you're a ploppy

Agreed watching this shit was brutal.

Its just the "top pros" who do that. Do that at my local casino and the clock will be called on you every hand before you have looked at your cards :D

Great. If I take a dump on the table it will tilt them even more. That's a solid strategy.

They really are. I played exactly 1 live tournament a few years ago. Then went back to online. I saw no point in ever playing live when I can play tournaments online. Also the rake live in most casinos is horrendous compared to online.

Not always some tournament have a timer when it's the players turn

because they are playing with a lot of money. You wont understand

Can't really blame the players since the drawn out timing should only affect those who were present. There's no excuse for uploaders to not edit the results for online viewing.

its insufferable

Not yet, I'm on it and I'll let you know... Need more coffee...

Still going

Joe Days exactly. You faced a raise, call and re-raise. Clearly someone is likely to have Jacks or better/AK type hands. What would she do with 10s on a 9 high flop? Probably fold to his jam. A flop with a single J Q K or A? Probably fold to a jam. One of the few flops she was hoping for hit and she folds lol

Actually she made a good decision here JJ beats her and any suited hearts even if she makes the correct decision she can likely lose with a heart on the turn or river. Maybe she was just trying to survive and not bust out thia by far was not a bad move.

It wasn’t a poor decision at all. Pair Jacks beats her, and so does a fourth heart anywhere else. If her 10 of Diamonds and the 10 of Hearts were switched she’d definitely call all the way to the end. Farrell had 31% here, and the value was too high for a 54% chance

Worst fold ever.. honestly..This shit is disgusting - The only thing to be scared about is pocket Js cause that is the only hand I imagine someone going all-in into 3 other people as a value bet.. Reason is simple. The chance he has flush with KQ is slim.. sure he might want to protect against the Ace of harts in this situation but honestly with 3 people behind I'd imagine he would CHECK - Shove this hand almost always.. With the nut flush or straight-flush he would honestly trap I'm pretty sure always.. Reason for it? Well there is 3 people behind you with a 30BB+ pot and trying to balance your range in such an important hand for the sake of balancing is simply stupid. Conclusion - The only hands he would All-in like this is JJ, 77 ( Although very unlikely to have 77) and draws like AK with K or A of harts. Maybe KQ with K of harts (Also unlikely as I feel unsuited KQ wouldnt be a 3-bet hand) - Maybe the guy has TJs but missed his suit and got top two with a flush and straight draw coming.. Either way the only hand to be LOGICALLY afraid of is JJ - All other hands you beat with equity - If you can't risk it here you shouldn't be playing at all

nuklearwinter there a reason y you are not a pro and she is. This was an easy fold, too many hearts and too many people still in play. People who falls in love with their hand and can't fold don't get far in tournaments.

The Instigator So pros never make mistakes? They make the right decision 100% of the time? I agree with you it's a clear fold with 3 other players in the pot. Heads-up though, its definitely not a clear fold. But the flat pre flop was a mistake. Not saying flatting 10s is bad in every situation, but flatting 10s after a very large re-raise with 2 more players to act is suicide. If she re raised pre flop, the other players would have folded making it heads up. But she didn't re raise because she wasn't willing to go all in pre flop with 10s but desperately wanted to see a flop. It's just a waste of 150k chips.

How do you know nuflearwinter isnt a pro? lol

Always a call here. You have the winning hand more often than not and even when you dont you have great equity to hit the full house. On top of that your opponents have poket pairs a lot of the time which cant have hit a flush.

"James Woods", sure she could have hit a boat, but so could the guy with trip J's . . . which she was folding to. Good fold, should never have been in that hand with 10's though the way the betting went pre flop.

I agree but I do think 30 secs is kind of short... maybe 60 or 90 secs I would be happier with... I'm all for faster play and I play really fast compared to most but 30 secs is not alot of time in a big situation

You can use additional time credits in tough spots. You only get a few of them though, I believe.

@@supremeamine2382 That's basic casino rules, these guys are sloths... I wish I got 10 minutes to make a decision doing anything

@@tmartin555 30 seconds is way too short but whatever time she took to make a decision was just getting plain unfair. Three minutes should be plenty. She took way over that post-flop after already taking a long time pre-flop.

made me laugh

The Ho*

Well played

LOL

"Ho, tighter than expected"

And the odds of flopping a flush are 1 in 118.

Weird thing to be bothered by. Fiddling with something in your hands is proven to help with your attention span, that's why most players do it subconciously.

What else do you want them to do? Sit there and stare at nothing without moving? That would be even weirder.

@@facelessman9224 it is still annoying. if you play in a big casino, then that sound is everywhere and it is kind of loud. i would play with headphones or so. it would make me nuts to listen to that crap all the time. they should get a stress toy or something like that. it doesnt make this annoying noise.

It's maddening, they are all robototrons copying each other relentlessly shuffling exactly the same over and over like tweekers...always at every table, it's crazy annoying...

# Guiltless - glad I gave up poker, shit is straight brain damage

Agree. She should fold preflop or call on the flop

The fact she took so long pre-flop to make a decision, probably should have folded as two raises already tells you even pocket 10's might not be worth playing with for this price. To then take forever post flop after getting another 10 shows it probably would have been wise to fold earlier if you not willing to face these consequences of this guy being so attacking. I'm just annoyed how long she took after already taking so much time pre-flop. Once was fair enough. Taking up so much time after the flop when he already gone all in means there should be less to think about now and making your decision soon after. Took way too long to fold. Least if she had done it soon after, it would not have look so bad. He did a sensational job being so attacking. Knowing you've got the Ace of hearts and know one else does, and three hearts on table already, you can be playing the other players fear of not having the A of hearts in the hand. Great play by him. Totally out played the other three in that hand.

This is a problem with most KZfaq poker commentary, AND most of the commentators on the original TV footage. Very annoying, I agree with you.

I agree. But it could come back, it is just a coverage decision. The old days you are talking about, the action was recorded and the commentary scripted. The current trend is live streaming - and the result is watching GTO bots calculate range odds in their head for 5 minutes per decision. Dull as shit to watch for sure.

@@ashtokm What's a GTO bot?

@@nickjunes Someone who sits at the table doing Game Theory Optimal calculations. The ideal GTO player would be a computer algorithm, or a bot, so that is what I call them. I am just being silly.

@@ashtokm Oh, ok thanks man I was wondering if people were smuggling in pocket computers now or something.

EPT on some tournaments use a 1minute clock for every decision.

66justariot Exactly! she was def afraid of the flushes. but if she fold that hand, then might as well stop playing poker.

I think her position didnt help either , she was first to talk after the all in shove , and 2 player behind her.I think she was scared of if she call someone commited to call with a high flush draw King for exemple ,or K-Q one of them with a heart.Last to talk am sure she would have called and let the faith go on.But 4 handed you cant really blame her

Duh, he has a 39 percent chance of hitting his flush, not a 1.5

I disagree and think her move was bold and smart. All the guy needed was a heart to gain Ace high flush. Chances of him getting a heart is slightly higher than her getting a full house.

Idk...i can't convince myself that folding a made hand to a draw is correct

Never say never. If those 3 hearts didn't scare you, you have ice water in your veins. I think she made the correct decision not knowing any more than she knew. Trip 10s are strong but with a possible flush and an all-in??? Hell even the possible straight would have beat her. She did have 6 draws to a boat and 1 draw to 4 of a kind in the next two cards but the flush and straight would both be easier to draw. Sometimes, as I'm sure you know, you have to think not so much about what you can beat, but what can beat you. That's especially true in a tournament where you're putting a sizable amount of your stack on the line.

@@peterblood50 also a pocket J's will be dangerous too

peter blood any jack ten or seven and she has a full house. Even runner matching cards.. she messed up imo

@@buckrogers4820 I hear ya, but you're only thinking of what she might have gotten. For one thing she doesn't know what the two people behind her might have, one was a raiser. He could have a pair of jacks in the hole already, he might have two hearts, he might have the the fill in for the straight. As far as she knows there are 11 hearts still out (counting the one she probably figures the all-in has) she doesn't know the Q's were burnt. She does know, if she calls and loses she'd but a serious dent in her chip stack and, if she doesn't, she plays deeper in a tourney that she has already invested 4 days in. I think she was playing smart to not risk it on the luck of the draw at this point in the tourney. Of course, that's only an opinion. If the hand played out we would know whether it was a good decision or not.

@@peterblood50 His 3 bet range from the SB should not include hands that give him a straight on this flop. It's more like JJ+, AKo and AQs+. So there's only 5 out of 56 combos in his range she should worry about, which are JJ, AKh and AQh. Against his possible jamming range JJ+, AKh, AQh she is still 70% favorite. So it is a call, imho.

no donkeys nor fishes, any begginer player, any person with very low IQ even a monkey would click in the call button... even my cat would click in the call button... what she did was absurdity... she was out of her mind... she was dominated by her fear and it blocked her mind... it looked like the lives of her entire family was in the line... no it's only chips! if you lose you still have your life to live... unreal! her head was empty but she her level of cortisol was so high that it got the best of her... she should quit the tournament after that hand. I would, seriously!

pyrobryan Camera Time

Because they're thinking about how best to bet in order to get an idea of what hand everyone else has and also how to maximise profit in accordance to their own hand. It's important, especially when they're playing with this amount of money in the pot. Though I admit that taking this much time is really pushing it. Most tournaments have timers.

If you play poker and you never know anything other than your two cards the cards on the board, and the rules of the game you should quit or keep the stakes really small.

By god I hear you

I take it you haven't been in a poker room in the last 40 years.

Not really. He got lucky the person with the best hand who 100% should have called there folded. 99.9% of ppl are calling with the 10s there.

@@AC-wl7ve I bet you’re a heck of a two card poker player. Would love to play poker with you.