Mariko Tells Buntaro She Never Loved Him Tea Scene Shogun Episode 8

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@DylReadsHorror Ай бұрын

That has got to be THE most civilised and courteous marital row in screen history.

@popcorn8153 Ай бұрын

Except the parts where he beats her

@timothydavidcurp Ай бұрын

And yet also the most savage. She made it horribly, crystal clear how she was/had always been permanently alienated from him.

@BeeOppresion Ай бұрын

Aside from the times he beat her

@luxubukid Ай бұрын

the worst she can say is no.

@gemmeldrakes2758 Ай бұрын

Her abusive husband asked her to commit suicide with him. My "no" would have been a lot more forceful (and rude) than her refusal was.

@jasonaxiak6316 Ай бұрын

I think he got the worst of it

@jangtheconqueror 11 күн бұрын

"I'd rather live a thousand years in pain and agony than die with you as husband and wife" like damn girl you don't need to take it that far

@saidtoshimaru1832 Ай бұрын

"Dude, I should've died the hero's dead back in Osaka"

@Delta-2-0 Ай бұрын

😂

@Misuchan22 28 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@Misuchan22 18 күн бұрын

Well his relationship was dead as fish out of sea

@pedrocastillomolla2992 Ай бұрын

He slapped and humiliated her at the earliest opportunity, what did he expect (?)

@nistatoon Ай бұрын

I think he's delusional to some degree, he loves her so much but she never loved him back, and deep down he knew this and got frustrated over the years.

@thlee3 Ай бұрын

@@nistatoonits pride. not some selfless love. he cant stand someone of her kind wont love him.

@pookpook3891 29 күн бұрын

@@thlee3 and entitlement

@johnson7156 15 күн бұрын

@@pookpook3891well. He’s actually entitled to it with their social standard at the time.

@gamemaster2311 12 күн бұрын

@@thlee3I think this is a watered-down interpretation of his character. He's much more complicated than simple ego.

@filmfan-lf3gr 26 күн бұрын

A remarkable scene that shows Buntaro is as much a casualty of ritual and tradition as Mariko. He offers her the (false) dignity of joining him in death, all wrapped in the beautiful solemnity, the principled courtesy of the tea ceremony --- completely missing his "target" in ways his martial skills would never allow; he cannot possess Mariko in life, so he chooses to possess her in death. Every hour of every day, Mariko operates within ritual's tight ambit, but she has (quietly) seen beyond this, learning to value her own life, choosing Anjin, and exercising a degree of power Buntaro can only dream of. In this scene, she is freer than Buntaro and knows it.

@ManuelKoegler Ай бұрын

As someone who considered this dude an asshole for the entirety up until now, this was really sad to be honest.

@colton6867 Ай бұрын

Because it shows why he was such an asshole. Dude was locked into a miserable marriage to someone who despised him.

@bethanymcdermott3954 Ай бұрын

@@colton6867He isn't locked in. He could divorce her if he wanted but he refused. She had no choice. (couldn't divorce him). And she might've started hating him AFTER he became abusive, we don't know.

@beethao9380 29 күн бұрын

@@bethanymcdermott3954 He was already despised from the beginner because of his character. After trying to get close to her and failing, he could've just killed her or let her go. He did none.

@carolinagaggero5806 15 күн бұрын

@@bethanymcdermott3954Buntaro also didn't allow her to do seppuku and didn't bring confort to her.

@asianmalaysianable 9 күн бұрын

I don't think it was that easy. There was no way to divorce her without dishonoring her which would have involved their mutual Lord Toranaga@@bethanymcdermott3954

@Diana734 Ай бұрын

The disrespect for her bloodline that has been passed onto their son...he deserves nothing.

@fchho Ай бұрын

That’s one shallow way to see things. I myself feel bad for them both.

@Diana734 Ай бұрын

@@fchho I feel sympathy for him having to be the one to help end his Da and that is it.

@alongj8512 Ай бұрын

@@fchhoagreed.

@plushiepenguin Ай бұрын

Buntaro having an L marathon this week.

@theghostinthemirror8158 Ай бұрын

Buntaro having an L marathon this whole show

@BejayBae Ай бұрын

James Clavel had a habit of handing L's on Buntaro in everyday basis

@alphagerudo6242 Ай бұрын

Abusers typically try the nice guy bit to get thier way. She declined commiting suicide with him I'm shocked he didn't shoot more arrows at her face again.

@alienvseditor Ай бұрын

Which is amazing considering the Japanese language doesn't even have the letter L and Bunty here is stacking em high

@MyHentaiGirlNeko Ай бұрын

@@theghostinthemirror8158 he have the W at the dock then it all went to L from there

@joshcook5434 Ай бұрын

I honestly do feel bad for buntaro, but it doesn't change the fact he brought this on himself for everything he did to mariko. so it's a little hard to say he didn't have it coming.

@emmanuela7528 Ай бұрын

It’s much more complex than that. Her father threw Japan into conflict, and his actions destroyed the peace that the previous Taiko worked hard for. There’s a very large chance that Buntaro has fought in battles that were caused by her father’s actions. He doesn’t dislike her, although he does seem to truly disdain her lineage (common at the time in Japan; you died for your family’s sins). Her marriage to him has become a source of scorn: his wife is the daughter of *that man*. But he likes her, so won’t let her kill herself. She’s cold to him, so being the emotionally repressed man that he is, he responds violently and beats her. However, the show never hints that he has sexually abused her, which means he values her honour. He doesn’t know how to reach her, so he’s very jealous that Blackthorne has succeeded easily where he has failed repeatedly. Mariko has had to endure his harsh treatment, but I don’t think she has ever tried to warm up to him, even when he was putting in effort. She’s so guilt-stricken by her father’s crimes that all she wants to do is die. Buntaro is a super interesting character, one of the best in the show. Fiercely loyal, yet emotionally immature; really strong yet strangely shaky; good son, good vassal and soldier, trash husband. He’s watching his world fall apart. In the course of the show, his brother-in-law, nephew, and father have all died. He himself was left for dead and barely survived. Man had been through a lot.

@omathitis8498 Ай бұрын

A perfect specimen for the human condition. You win some, you lose some. Whatever happens at the end of the journey, the goal that is set at the very beginning and every step taken from that day on should be the finding of thy self. Everything else is sunset and sunrise, the waves crashing to the shore, the falling of leaves and the dew in a rose's petals.@@emmanuela7528

@jutzkamoi Ай бұрын

@emmanuela7528 dude this should be a top comment not hidden in reply. It explains a lot of the mixed feelings towards him that I have. How shitty he's been to mariko and yet I can't shake the sadness that I feel for him.

@joshcook5434 Ай бұрын

@@emmanuela7528 That is a very good explanation. I agree with you, but to me it still doesn't justify the bad things he's done to her, and even fuji. There is pity for him, even if mariko was icy towards him as a result.

@rei_cirith Ай бұрын

@@emmanuela7528 I think we understand everything you said... but nothing excuses abuse. This was a brutal takedown by Mariko but knowing that he beat her, I can't feel bad for him at all.

@georgeguzman734 Ай бұрын

I never thought I’d almost cry watching someone prepare some tea 😮

@metalltitan Ай бұрын

>I don't love you [X] >I'd rather live a thousand yeas in misery, longing for death every single day, than die with you now [V]

@armangoode37 Ай бұрын

Feel bad for both of them😢

@DrCruel Ай бұрын

This is actually a pretty normal Japanese relationship.

@orcloverogrefiend5644 Ай бұрын

Gawd damn@@DrCruel

@DrCruel Ай бұрын

@@orcloverogrefiend5644 Just telling the truth. I didn't invent any of this.

@AntalopeAUT 16 күн бұрын

Buntaro-san reaped what he sowed .

@redsol3629 17 күн бұрын

A very symbolic ceremony showing what could have been and what is. The elegance, the rough cups and the buds refusing to flower.

@VuLinhAssassin 5 күн бұрын

How could he even think of being her husband after years of mistreatment?

@dmitry5233 7 күн бұрын

Not even a fierce warrior can withstand the pain of heartbreak...

@ifeanyiazuh9373 21 күн бұрын

The very definition of serving him tea 😂😂😂

@Anantinfinit 19 күн бұрын

What did he expect dude didn't even gave basic respect to her that was bound to her position.

@merrickfox 23 күн бұрын

How to edit the soul out of a scene 101

@dwiputrawahyukusuma7821 Ай бұрын

lady stone heart mariko dono

@ArcadiyIvanov Ай бұрын

mariko sama

@CrniWuk Ай бұрын

But Lady Blossom for Anjin Sama.

@lukefury8162 Ай бұрын

Yes, she wasn't lady stone with anjin😮 the bwc must have gone crazy

@lukefury8162 Ай бұрын

@kineticballs77 no1 says it was real🤣 they are loosely based on real people, just mad it's white man clapping some Japanese cheeks

@lukefury8162 Ай бұрын

@@kineticballs77 womp

@yamu6861 Ай бұрын

En el momento en que Mariko se niega a morir junto a Buntaro y le expresa que preferiría vivir mil años, oí como el kokoro de ese hombre se volvía añicos

@c.shrine1470 Ай бұрын

Can anyone tell me the soundtrack for this scene? I'm struggling to find it

@piggy.761 Ай бұрын

I want this soundtrack too.. it’s too emotional

@agutirrez74 Ай бұрын

Lmk when you do

@piggy.761 Ай бұрын

@@agutirrez74 Do you know this soundtrack? Thank you so much if you have an answer for us

@MrJRICH2009 Ай бұрын

Any Luck

@navi8108 Ай бұрын

*sad buntaro noises*

@charl1878 14 күн бұрын

This was one of the most beautiful yet saddest scene. The guy really loved his wife.

@camerongrant8344 7 күн бұрын

Did we watch the same show

@spooneater9001 Ай бұрын

the worst she can say is I want a divorce

@peterdaly6173 Ай бұрын

i cannot think of a more hateful thing to say to another human being... thats mindblowing.

@raspberryPi1337 15 күн бұрын

It hurts

@hunterellis8714 26 күн бұрын

the gunners been wounded!

@paciuzz Ай бұрын

who knows the title of this song?

@keepmovn8039 25 күн бұрын

Thats why i choose coffee than a tea time. Lesson, samurai make strong tea, too strong for peaceful time.

@ethanmascarenhas7233 23 күн бұрын

Let it be know that Anjin-sama had the last taste of Mariko-Sama's cake. I know who my hatamoto is! xD

@03focussvt943 Ай бұрын

This was the best scene so far in this series. The music.. the aura... the scene? Perfect. Absolutely ace.

@danielking104 9 күн бұрын

EMOTIONAL DAMAGE! Critical hit

@Diogenes-jn7nh 29 күн бұрын

O cara trata a mulher que nem uma quenga, não poderia esperar menos.

@straightuphating1013 Ай бұрын

Buntaro may be an asshol but damn if he isn't cool

@mistsrider Ай бұрын

You can feel bad for him as a character but he had it coming as a trash husband.

@raynovicio7332 17 күн бұрын

Buntaro was used

@Taylexwow 15 күн бұрын

In fairness we don't know what kind of husband he has been either......in the show he comes off as a serious hothead and she seems straight up afraid once he's drunk.....

@haroldcruz8550 4 күн бұрын

He's not a hot head, he was just tormented by his relationship with Mariko, The true hot heads are Fuji's husband and Toranaga's son.

@rikudou947 Күн бұрын

The show doesn't give us a balanced perspective, it doesn't show us *how* Mariko has been emotionally tormenting Buntaro all these years, but always makes sure to beat us over the head with how violent and agresssive he is with her.

@user-cf2px2ko8y Ай бұрын

Simping samurais is just too funny

@abirbinhabib7669 Ай бұрын

thats his wife.. it ain't simping

@user-cf2px2ko8y Ай бұрын

@abirbinhabib7669 you actually have a point

@kwonjiyong1778 Ай бұрын

When men don't understand simple hints and cry after being rejected 😅

@bentooreo9849 Ай бұрын

You will understand what if feels like to simp and be denied

@AdeptKing Ай бұрын

I mean she’s his wife at that stage so it’s going to hurt either way.

@lila2986 Ай бұрын

@@bentooreo9849 everybody at some point faces rejection, such is life. It's how you respond to it- either with dignity or disgrace.

@neessie1 Ай бұрын

@@lila2986 It's not just your response with dignity or disgrace. It can be a feeling of pain you cannot control so you cannot let it go away easy. You should turn it around. Their is always a way to prevent people from feeling to much pain from rejection. Rejection is easy, getting rejected is not.

@ysgramornorris2452 13 күн бұрын

@@lila2986 You know nothing of life.

@vladline1882 Ай бұрын

The Show should have started or next spin-off with Oda Nobunaga Journey from Childhood.

@cataclysm7256 Ай бұрын

Uh no? The book it was adapting is about how Tokugawa Ieyasu seized power after Toyotomi Hideyoshi died.

@jacknakamori3280 Ай бұрын

What a rooser.

@Zero8880 Ай бұрын

Am I supposed to hate Mariko and John Blackthorne? Bc I really do lol.

@markydan1232 Ай бұрын

FACTS! Buntaro is a great warrior who survived death and then has to sleep in the same house as the man his wife had an affair with. On top of the fact his wife hates him for decisions her father made. And you can see him constantly reaching for her but she "gives him nothing". As a viewer you sit there and ask "what did he do to deserve this?".

@Lightingwarrior Ай бұрын

What do you expect from an arrange marriage where women have no say in who they are expected to spend the rest of their lives with and marry complete strangers

@ayanithtalreign Ай бұрын

@@Lightingwarrior Perfectly normal in history, where women couldn't sleep with a hundred guys and then find a simp after hitting 30 to pay their way after.

@Lightingwarrior Ай бұрын

@@ayanithtalreign yes it was normal back then for arrange marriages but that still didn't means the the women had to love their husbands whom they were force to marry

@ruleofwtf Ай бұрын

Uhhh did you even watch the show lol? He's physically abusive to her and cold to their son. Mariko has zero reason to care about him.

@miladydewinter8551 Ай бұрын

All arranged marriages are the same. No love to begin with - just business or financial agreements. Judicial rape in other words

@randyyeh7576 Ай бұрын

not always, I personally know people in arranged marriage that are in love and would disagree with you. Don't victimize everything as rape.

@HaydenLau. Ай бұрын

@@randyyeh7576 How do you know they love each other

@randyyeh7576 Ай бұрын

@@HaydenLau. same way I know how any couple love each other. U should be asking how would I know if they are not in love with each other

@HaydenLau. Ай бұрын

@@randyyeh7576 How do you know any couple love each other, then?

@randyyeh7576 Ай бұрын

@@HaydenLau. if u talk to people enough, u will know when someone is comfortable around someone and traits that show affection. And contrarily, it’s very easy to tell if someone is not enjoying the company of others. Please stop asking me these questions, I am not ur counselor