@@azbycx56 Good observation. But if you look at their 1987 Westminster Waltz, some similar things happen in that the first repetition was well done but each pattern after that kept getting smaller and they would often lose some flow after her inside three turn which causes them to really push hard on the progressive just before the wide-step.

@@gk891 I am amazed at the accuracy and insight in your dance analysis. You should have been a judge. You also wouldn't get caught up in all these protocal and ranking rules like other judges. I get the feeling you would piss off fans often though.

@@travisstrong5389 Oh there's a lot that I don't know and don't catch! I keep learning more and more each year. It's what I love about ice dance (all of the details and intricacies). But thank you!

@@gk891 But if you judged you would atleast a)be very knowledgable in a lot of the subtleties and difficulty aspects, plus technique aspects of dance, b)only care about placing the skaters in the order they belong, even if it means marking down your favorites when it was fitting, c)not be held down by the pre conceived protocals and unwritten rules of ranking teams. B and C which apply to almost no ice dance judges before the new system atleast, and A which apply to maybe 30% of them at best.

@@gk891 By the way I met Jean Senft once. Very nice lady. And IMO one of the better ice dance and overall judges (she judges all 4 events in her day), even if she had her faults, like getting on the too pro Bourne & kraatz bandwagon, and how she handled trying to expose cheating and Balkov, which was well intended, but implicating herself in the process. One funny thing she admited to me is she believes the Duchensays deserved only about 5th or 6th in the free dance and only about 4th overall in Albertville, but knew she would be suspended for a long time if she placed them any lower than 3rd in any dance, hence why she placed them 2nd in both the original and free dance, despite telling me herself she thought their free dance deserved only 5th or 6th place. She said it was the worst thing she ever saw from them and it was frustrating to feel compelled to have to mark them so high for her own security in the sport. Notice how in her piece on spectacular free dances and what a judge is looking for before the Oakland worlds free dance she featured Klimova & Ponomarenko, Usova & Zhulin, Rakhommo & Kokko, but not the Duchensays. To me that is telling. If I had to guess her real order (I didn't actually ask that) I would guess it was those 3, Gritschuk & Platov 4th, then maybe someone else (maybe Moniotte & Lavanchy), the the Duchensays. In the free dance portion that is. It gives you an idea how heavily protocal and needing to follow protocal played into ice dance judging back then.