There’s a chaos factor some people don’t even commit crimes get yanked into something

That’s horrible, I’m glad they got arrested

So is the status the same in Inglewood TX you think?

Are you seriously mad at people for watching porn? Also, you can say “rape”… I think.

@@IsaiahRichards692 “child”

Oh but forcing everyone in the military to take an untested and experimental government vaccine or else you’re kicked out of the military won’t force good service members to leave? We should be worried about the jarheads who don’t think and just “follow orders”.

Guilty until proven innocent nowadays I guess

@@poetlygaming1566 you are correct, always has been. There is no such thing as innocent until proven guilty.

@Youngplague_ exactly.

@@lg860 it's innocent until proven guilty here in the states and always has been. Not denying that it doesn't go that way always, yet overall that's the rule. If you wanted to experience guilty until proven innocent you should have just gone to Mexico. Not that long ago that's how it was and cops would literally pick up men who were walking on the sidewalk for no reason than to fill arrest quotas set by government officials. I'm an American yet my parents were always nervous when I went out walking that I to would get picked up. After all they dam well could and would threaten you with jail if you didn't cough up some money.

Wow our Marines doing disservice to our country. Not good at all.

They all got let free😂

The California Globe contacted Camp Pendleton to confirm the administrative and criminal punishments that were handed down. Military spokesperson, Major Kendra Motz made a public statement over the weekend that nine Marines were sent to courts-martial, eight pled guilty, and 15 were charged with lower-level offenses.

nobody asked

The CO dishonored the marine corps by making their arrest a public event and because of it they all got off scott free

In 1983 at 29 palms Marine Corps air ground combat center 1/4 MPs and Nis came during formation and went through the barracks and gave drug test on the spot, when they were done out of 6 hundred Marines, only a little over 2 hundred of us were left I mean 1st Sgt's staff Sgt 's capt and lieutenants almost all staff nco 's and entire offficer command were arrested !

You call it poetic. I call it embarrassing for the Army.

@@pasques This was in the 1970's... It was an embarrassing time for many - for many reasons.

@nicholastv5543 How's everything going Jay ?

Nowadays......MPs would have to give them back the hash if they are of age

This happened several times when I was a El Toro ..same time area ..used to be in morning formation which usually took only mins ..evertime we stood for a extended period we knew they were searching the barracks

I would have went AWOL and let them drag me to Virgina for a few months while I was processed out when they caught me. And got a OTH discharge. Or just say I'm a drug addict and not quitting drugs. Same way to get a OTH

@@BxCortez2050 that's why you keep your drugs or steroids or whatever in gym lockers across town.

These days they kick you out, back then they made you stay. Man that's something.

That’s just petty. Could’ve let him go since he was pretty much out already. Us taxpayers ended up paying for his “reenlistment.”

That's not what happened really. Some other people in here saying they were told they were getting awarded with something and then all got arrested

@@mutilatedpopsicles they did get rewarded. Stupid people who play stupid games win stupid prizes.

@FatevsFate 🤣🤣🍻

What were they going to do, fight back?. They were in the right place to get a fight, but they were not going to come out on top. For one thing, they wouldn't have been armed, and the MPs are always armed.

@FatevsFate They got awarded with matching shiny bracelets. Good riddance.

if only we use the same human trafficking standards on joe biden.......

@@jonathanthink5830 Sure! If there's no proof, then those charges will be dropped. If you have proof, don't uselessly bitch on some KZfaq comment like some worthless idiot, go to the FBI. You'll be a hero! So many people believe the President is above the law, and there is a lot of recent proof of this, so I think if you actually believe in your country you should take what you know and go to the authorities. Those imaginary humans that are not being trafficked are depending on you! Go save them! On second thought, it's much more safer for you to post about imaginary human trafficking here on KZfaq than to be one of those heavily armed 2A-enabled clowns that make a vigilante-style attempt to rescue non-existent victims of human trafficking, especially the one that shot and killed a baby with this AR15.

@@jonathanthink5830 don’t forget about Matt Gaetz.

@@jonathanthink5830 don't forget Trump illegal undocumented labors on his golf courses.

@@jonathanthink5830 you missed Gaetz

Lies again? Marine Soldier

They had to pull a whole Hawaii P-3 squadron out of the cycle right as they were getting ready to deploy to Diego Garcia in 2001 because NCIS busted a third of the maintainers for making/dealing meth. The CO was later relieved for sleeping with one of his clerks.

Hold up, they send in Gibbs?

@@PeterMuskrat6968 Unfortunately they are not all Gibbs by any stretch. Not even close

Sounds like stolen valor to me

Yahtzee

I think they got recognition for all their hard work.

I doubt that's how they felt, all of them standing up there, they knew each other they knew what was going down when all their names.started being called.

@@MrChickensnatcher thinking and feeling aren't the same thing, but regardless as someone who has been to numerous formations especially for reward ceremonies; even when knowing full well that nobody is in trouble - you're still never completely at ease, but I'm sure being told in advance you're getting an award probably made some of the Marines not as nervous as they otherwise would be.

Awarded with a pair of chrome handcuffs (limited edition!)

@Fallout Entertainment Industries that’s wild

My son was in 2/5. Last name Schatz.

Military bring lots of cocaine,pills,and meth we've even seen a punching bag full of cocaine

Been going on for years. Too close to the boarder.

@Fallout Entertainment Industries its been known about gang infiltration since the 80s. This is widespread knowledge

I have no experience in the Marine Corps but those negatives sound pretty justified to me.

The unit should look at this as those people lined up let the unit down by getting into something they shouldn't of had. Protecting such people brings the entire unit down in the long run.

Uhh don't commit crimes?

Nah. We had a number of idiots in our battalion get dishonorably discharged. Didn't deter the rest of us. Hell, we laughed about how dumb they all are. We knew who the good guys were, and who were the shitbags.

And of course the victims...

Fellow Chaser. I saw a lot in that collateral duty as well.

😂🤣🤣😂🤣

Hahahahaha

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When you receive the command you will place your hands on the back of you head and interlock your fingers.

And we would do it to ..

That's why you keep the drugs in a gym locker across town.

That's because health and comfort inspections can't lead to criminal charges unless PMO or NCIS is there to conduct the search. NJP is not a criminal charge and doesn't require a criminal investigation.

@@sasquatchIRL Cool. I didn't know that. Fortunately I don't have to deal with that nonsense anymore.

We had his called out of formation after post leave pi$$ tests

@@MisterBones223 Same. I got out for a whole host of reasons. Basically boiled down to getting burned out from backing my guys but getting shafted by the E-8/O-4 and up level.

you grew up IN the marines, but weren't a marine?

hes making up internet stories again @@Six_One_Six

@@Six_One_Six my mom was in the Marines up until I graduated high school

I served in the USMC from 1989 to 2009. Almost all of the child abuse I saw was committed by either the local allied civilian population or enemy combatants. The few times I did see it being committed by our personnel, I reported it. 12 of my 20 years were as an MP and a CSI/CID. Fortunately, most of the crime committed by our people did not involve children.

How did you grow up in the marines if you didn't even go to boot camp? Also I served twice and have lived my entire life and have never seen ANY sexual abuse in or out of the military. Now I am well aware that it is RAMPANT everywhere and a few times I dealt with advances that I escaped. Some guy even attempted to rape me with a butcher knife at age 17 but I fought my way out of there. These things still are not considered normal behavior though, especially in the military. I think a lot of it depends on the kind of people you hang around. I believe any type of rape or child molestation should be a Capitol Offense, no questions asked. We might fry a few innocent men in the process but I would honored to be the first innocent man to die and just consider myself a casualty of war against this heinous crime. This type of offense is worst than murder. It affects that child's entire life and everyone they come into contact with. I could explain further but don't care to. Just like hard drugs it's a cancer and I've seen it ruin generations. Lots of crimes should be considered a CAPITOL OFFENSE and until we start taking the future of mankind seriously we will always have this cancer eroding our society and poisoning the future of humanity as well as mankind. I am sorry for your trauma, it should have never happened.

I served in 1/5 from 2005-2009. This doesn't surprise me. That unit is notorious for charging people. My company once charged 90 percent of the marines for a hazing incident despite evidence few participated. I once had a 1st Sgt who said "Disrespect my ncos and I will make charges up to nail you". I miss pendleton, but not 1/5. Screw that unit. Ps, in that hazing incident I escaped charges because I was in the hospital for blood poisoning. I got lucky

Did you just say that seeing your criminal friends getting busted scared you out of the Corp? What's the matter, worried you'd be next?

@@smarterthanyou9090 using drugs shouldn't be a criminal offense. Why does anyone care what you do with your body on your own time?

@@Styxswimmer I care, because I work to make money to pay soldiers to defend me. If you were to choose between a soldier who spends his rec time IMPROVING himself mentally, physically, and spiritually or some failure of a soldier who spends his rec time as a pothead, which would you prefer doing the job?

@@smarterthanyou9090 tell me, what's the difference between a soldier getting wasted on alcohol and using pot? The difference is, alcohol is worse.

We're you like "I only downloaded like 5 songs for free over the internet."

Me and my guys were walking back from pt and saw the entire battalion marching and were like wtf?

Wait so theyre command knew they were going to be arrested and made a formation how did this give them a case for being innocent

@@starhunter3502 They didn't so their lawyers deemed it as defamation and they got out of any legal charges.

@@matthewtopete1678 I was thinking the same thing. Thx

Money dude

This is a more "diverse" marines which resembles something more akin to mercenaries not to mention the lower standards of admittance. No one is seriously joining the U.S. military out of loyalty or duty anymore. It is a gig. Which is a damn shame when compared to our ancestors

@@thegadflygang5381 I agree. No one joins for the love of their country which I don’t blame them for. It’s all about that free college baby’

yeah also there was a Pendleton-Cartell with marines!

Spartans did the same thing.

You'll be strong

Ur barracks?

@@APersonOnKZfaqX used to be. I EAS’ed back in 2013, years before this. So I dunno which battalion is currently residing there or which battalion this is…

Oh wait… says in the description 1/5.

I used to live in the end room on the upper deck in 2004, the room I was given after my trip to the sandbox. 18 years later it looks pretty much the same.

Yea 40+ Armed NCIS Agents and a few battalions of Marines would encourage a "peaceful surrender" by almost anyone. Still you can see why they didn't (wisely) arrest them during target practice or a live fire exercise XD

I was a cop for 5 years. The ones who resisted arrest were either a) career criminals who were arrested a lot, or b) completely innocent. These marines knew they committed a crime, and finally got caught! They knew in their heart they were 100% guilty and just disgraced everyone. It happens every every every time!!!!

@@prettynoose8497 Thank you for your service to our communities and your insight! I agree and cannot see a perspective where the arrested Marines had their rights violated or ignored as the lawyer claims but hey I never went to law school. As a former police officer do you see any misconduct at all or just a metric ton of BS?

Bootlicking criminals.. Yall done hit a new low

Why they get arrested thoe????

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a military in distress? It is by far the most BLOATED military on planet earth. Grow up.

What was wrong with how they were arrested?

@@genesmolko8113 I believe it was public humiliation

@@genesmolko8113 it's also collective punishment , (ironic since that's a war crime)

@@err_4044 Collective punishment is totally okay in the military. Happens all the time

Where is the evidence that the charges were dropped? What specific rights of theirs were violated? Are you aware that military law is NOT the same as civilian law?

His channel is awesome 👌

Rah-Rah 😂

His navy character would lol

HooAh!!!

That guys got one joke and has coasted off of it for years

Were you mad that your guys in your unit couldn’t keep themselves disciplined? Do you smoke weed now too? 😂 (Canadian civilian questions)

@@JphoenixK Yes to #1. No to #2.

Wow! That’s a good lesson. A lot of people go through their whole lives without ever really knowing who they are. My brother (who’s a Marine), would have just called him a shitbag to his face, and then never given him another thought! He’s not one for reflection. 😂

In my early 20's I was eager to join the Marines. I wanted to have that "killer mentality, and reputation". So, I went to the recruiter, talked to him. They found out I had asthma in my medical history, and said I wasn't eligible. They said "Go try the Army." Now that I'm in my 30's, I'm glad they didn't let me join. I don't want to go fight some war for some old fat politicians to line their pockets. And, I also enjoy smoking a J from time to time.

@@jdmbeats Sounds like the right call. I was the same but didn't have asthma so I enlisted in the Army National Guard. 10 years after my discharge, my back is shot, my hips and cervical spine are crooked and at least one of my discs shows minor degradation. The VA won't accept the x-rays I already had so scheduled me for more but they only requested for my cervical spine instead of a full back and hips like I needed. Now I have to figure out why they didn't request anything else and schedule for it. I have to fight to prove that I, a 5'5" 145lb SAW gunner, wearing a 30+lb vest, Kevlar helmet with NVG's, around 15 to 20 lbs of ammo, a 22 lb fully loaded weapon system as well as everything else, has service related back and hip problems and I was told since I was in the National Guard, the VA won't even try to track down my medical records. I weighed myself before putting on my kit and after. It weighed just over 92 lbs. I humped more than half my body weight every single day for a year and I'm in constant pain. Luckily my state legalized weed so that helps. Doesn't fix my body though.

Mine too!

Mine too

Just a hop skip and a jump for them breakfast burritos

Mine too literally during that day those were my barracks

This also looks like mine. ‘83-‘84 Wpns Co. 3/9 Camp San Mateo, just below the hill south of the chow hall. Looks just like them, if it’s not them.

Military, police, government it doesn’t matter….nobody is above the law

At that time they were only accused of it they hadn't been through court yet

@@johnphifer5923 “Theoretically”

Innocent until proven guilty.

@@danh1060 not how it works in the military, buddy

"Deal with it at the lowest possible level" they say. Get fked they do

@@KaiserCS “yo I can try keeping h safe, gimme” “No” Entire military police appears behind him

Lol

@@gracchus7782 Welp, let a private do anything and you know the results 😂

Pretty sad indeed, you hope someone in the comment section fills us in, horrible reporting.

Lmao,.... Im sure the old couple are into bondage and eating human flesh. You sound like a great neighbor. I wish you were my neighbor.

@@o_ocanttellifseriousordumb803 😅😂😂

There was a couple accused of being Russian spies and when interviewing neighbors they talked about how kind they were so basically everyone hides behind a mask of their true self these days

Cartell worker everywhere!

Crazy story, and sad for that young wife who will probably divorce his arse

Yeah sometimes they wear badges too

A uniform isn't a source of honor and it doesn't give you honor.

Military citizens are held to high standards, I often feel the same standards should be applied to government officials who misrepresent intelligence data in order to initiate military action against sovereign nations, often getting many people killed in the process.

I worked in the fire service for years, I was shocked at some of the conduct that these men and women had who wear the uniform, the same people who swore to protect and serve the community. So seeing this in the armed forces does not shock me. So I agree with your opening comment...

You are correct.

I didn't know that was actually a thing

The MC will not knowingly accept a known convicted criminal as a recruit.

A guy in my OCS class initially came in on the “Judge Program.” Ended up being a damn good Marine, transitioned to Navy EOD and eventually became an officer. It works for some people.

Lol when was this World war II? Vietnam? I was a recruiter in 2006 and we would never offer such thing.

I was in OSUT in 2017, drill asked if anyone joined to avoid going to jail one guy said yea, he got caught with coke and I guess the judge dismissed the case once he knew he enlisted. He was from Tennessee

every officer a idiot usuallt in the military they go through college to learn war instead of go through war to learn war

Sorry you had such poor leadership Devil Dog. I was down the road from you with 3/1 India before I EAS years ago. I do know how a bad Marine leader can make life hard though, especially in combat ops in Iraq.

Since being out of the Marines for a few years I can say the worst supervisors or leaders ive ever had were marines and as a civilian the worse supervisors to have are prior marines.. sad but true.

@@bhoff82 I'm very much happier now since I got out. Glad we didn't go into actual combat under their command or it would've been a bad day to be a grunt.

@@TJ-zz4lr yeah I know what you mean. Got a Supervisor who's been out since the 80's who's got a serious attitude problem when things aren't happening his way 😂.

Turns out you're not supposed to write legal documents in crayon, who knew?

Ye and yet when one tests positive for thc they get dishonorably discharged.....

Yeah but the brig is kind of a fuckin joke these days or maybe it always has been

Full-on dishonorable. Stays with you forever.

All charges were dropped because of this video lol

The first few that got called out probably had no idea. After five or six guys everyone in that ring knew what was going on... and yet they stood in formation and reported when called. but then, where could they go? They had to know they were being arrested and were surrounded by law enforcement.

@@waynecoulter6761 Hence the Kafkaesque horror aspect of the whole thing.

If they didn't sell that. Nobody would join. It pays very little compared to other dangerous and demanding jobs.

@@BobthePointer In a better world I would agree. But it can be a way to get out of poverty.

It was a much saner time as far as laws and regulations

I got out 12 years ago. They still called out shitbags during company or battalion formations back then, so I'm sure it's still a thing now.

Seriously?

Supposed to be in private?

Yep and the Battalion CO was given a BCD and now works at Taco Bell as night shift manager.

They weren’t supposed to be ready for formation than arrest should’ve been done off site

that honeslty was a stupid way to do it. bet that captain, wanna be high speed, thought it was a good idea to make "an example" out of them in front of everyone. while im all for smoking someone infront of their peers or in front of a formation, a freaking mass arrest because of pretty heinous crimes such as human trafficking and drug smuggle... nah. thats just flat out stupid

What is embarrassing is how the Command handled that arrest so poorly. If NCIS would have been called, then the Command would have been given instructions on how to handle it. Instead the senior enlisted Marine & Commanding Officer wanted to violate the rights of the accused in formation & all charges were dropped.

Is that a schoolhouse? Why they got a guidon?

@@MichaelJames-lr6lt Every company has a guidon

@@MichaelJames-lr6lt What lol?

@M Y T H I C A L N O V A Is that okay with you buddy? I saved time and now here I am wasting more on your little cringe emojis. This river goes both ways brother.

These barracks are shitholes

They just resign from congress and get a nice retirement package. Pathetic.

I swear the average person is so dumb.

I have forgotten about this but I guess if my memory serves me correctly this was a group that were bring illegals into America or am I wrong?

Their both something marines shouldn't be doing

Yeah, trafficking is sex related, smuggling is like Han Solo or Malcolm Reynolds. ;p

Highly unlikely that any of them got Dishonorable Discharges. Some might end up with Bad Conduct Dishcharges. There's a big difference. Very few Dishonorable Discharges are given out. Most will probably end up with a "General Discharge, under other than honorable conditions. Most discharges received at court martials are upgraded during the review/appeal process.

I am not sure I follow you here. As I understand your comment, the DD is so bad that, something something bad that was not a result of the DD, he couldn't get a burial. I am not going to argue about a DD here, but you didn't really illustrate how bad one was for someone being discharged aside from not getting a VA burial when they are dead and no longer care. Or maybe I am nitpicking. That said, I am only talking about your comment and have no doubts that there are other details that would not be best to air out on a YT comment string.

@@CharlieUlivarri A DD will absolutely ruin your life, much less your time after death. You lose your right to vote, your second amendment right, you lose all rights to military veteran benefits including medical care (I believe this even applies if your injuries and disabilities are service related), you will never work a government job again, you will never receive a federal benefit like financial aid for college, you will find similar difficulty in finding employment after discharge as if you were a convicted felon (in so many words you are). A DD is catastrophic.

@@pxatm Great. I'm glad you missed the topic of my reply.

@@CharlieUlivarri DD is worse than a felony in most circumstances. You have the same rights as a felon afterward and whatever you do you have to disclose that you were DD which inhibits you greatly. Also you get no entitled benefits of being a service member. So anything you may have been compensated for is unattainable and veteran and active duty service programs are also unavailable to you. Lastly most DDs come along with a Stint in a federal prison and because your military you end up in a military prison which arguably is worse than normal prison, so there's that.

Do I !!!!!

Is that a gun in your waistband? *YES SIR!* _Fix yourself._ *AYE SIR!*

lmao

I hate collective punishment

@@HateTheIRS One of the biggest flaws of the military, at least the american one, although that behavior is universal in every country

@@HateTheIRS And a reason for which joining when it is not wartime is just a terrible idea

Yeah. I'm calling bullshit. Arresting other members who don't even live on base with no evidence or probable cause?

@@HateTheIRS It's a great pollitical tool. Fluff abunch of inflated numbers to make yourself look liked you cracked a ring, but most people wont challenge the brass and 20ppl get the shaft for 3 people.

Were they solid and squared away as marines or slackers?

Straight back to running humans for cartels to enslave 🤣

Welcome home my friend 🙏🏼♥️🙏🏾 Best regards from eastern Oregon ✌🏼😎 keep it Kickass

Thank you for your service, Myself was a corporal in The Marines back in mid 90’s!!!

My dad was a Seabee in the late 70s and early 80s. He served on the USS John King. Go Seabees!

@@therevolutionwillnotbeyoutubed just a question what was a seabee on a ship for?

@@mokooh3280 I have no idea. I'm just a civilian. I know he was on 2 ships in his Navy career. The first one and the one he always boasts about is the John King. I think he was a Seabee after serving on the ships. (But don't quote me on that.) I only ever knew about him being a Seabee because it was the 2nd most thing he was proud of besides the Navy in general and the cartoony looking Seabee patch on his BDUs when I was a little kid. I know he was stationed in a few places so maybe that explains it. Idk to be completely honest. I'm fairly ignorant to a lot of things about the military. I'll be straight up with you.

oh yeah really? The case has been thrown out already.

@@Executiveinvestments- I was referring to the early retirements of the commander and sergeant major for the way they handled this, not of the accused marines.

@@likeggs6465 I'm extremely bemused as to how this was mishandled by the command staff, would you care to elaborate?

,@WINNING, where is your proof?

Ya there in court already most likely gonna get posted...thank god

That’s what I thought but it sounds like to me according to these comments that we have a lot of young men addicted and or selling dope for business in our military especially the corp! And on base! I guess you need them drugged up and on the front lines so they won’t be scared! That’s scary in itself!

Sure, only the corps is allowed to wrong you.

@@coolbuddydude1 Well somebody is butt hurt. Take it easy

The "Corps" will knowingly send you out into an IED minefield if it means an officer getting a star on his evals. Keep drinking the Motoade.

@@andewfusthe3rd stop simping.

Because they knew you would click on it and clicks mean money.

My experience has been that those attracted to military "service" actually have weaker morals than the median.

@@notyou2353 Ehh, I'm not sure about that but it's possible. Military tend to have certain characteristics. But certainly I don't like when people put them on some kind of pedestal just because of their career choice. That's ridiculous

but did they sell the sets?

@@JohnSmith-zk8xp I bought one, 75316 mandalorian starfighter. It's an awesome set.

@@BesoffenerIslamist lucky bastard

they couldnt convict most of these guys even if they were guilty

The USMC tries to instill their core values and 14 leadership traits into recruits in boot camp and in the ongoing development of Marines. I believe you should learn those values and traits as a child by your parents long before you ever join the USMC. If someone is a scuzzbag entering the USMC, they will, most of the time stay a scuzzbag. In today's popular culture and society, being a scuzzbag is accepted and even encouraged.

We should hold our armed forces to the highest moral standards when it comes to protecting human life. If you can't keep that many men from becoming criminals ofc you should be degraded for the world to see

Yes, Marines who take part in an illegal activity like human trafficking degrade the Corps. Their arrests are like cutting out a cancer, leaving the United States Marine Corps a healthier body without them.

@@hermocrasbreadlord9557 The military is run by politics, shiite rolls down the hill.

Some of the toughest? Were they MARSOC or Raiders?

Bruh we have Seals and GBs ODing from coke every year.

Sad and bad, ah the vocabulary of a crayon-eater.

Don’t look up what’s happening in fort hood

This is just the tip of the iceberg buddy

Bro don't live in the FANTASY WORLD of the U.S. Military is Crime Free or Trouble Free. Many People join, from all types of backgrounds & temptation is real. Military Life is very similar to Civilian Life in the aspect that you're there to preform a Job. You get paid, you go home, you have free time etc. etc. A BIG PROBLEM is that many in Active Duty feel as if they are UNTOUCHABLE or they know everything or all the rules & ultimately they believe they are SLICKER than the SYSTEM. Know this though, no matter what or how long something goes on EVENTUALLY it'll be brought to LIGHT & those who are/we're involved will have to face their wrongdoings!! Just some REAL ADVICE from a former ENLISTED.

Quite the odd sight to see the instructor out of all people to yeet a recruit off the second floor, isn't it? I bet the recruit's name was Carl.

I could fill the first name with a couple last names. Irony. I know of 2 who got promoted on 2 merit boards. Corporal to Sargent. Pathetic! Sometimes the worst get to the top by polishing the right knobs in the command....@@vindictivegrind9370

FC 304 & 305 were condemned barracks... I lived there for a year! At least field day was easy.

I was in Wallace creek. Wasn’t bad at all.

Hp512 With the N st Hooligans

I lived in a few barracks that were condemned. That trash happens all the time. I hated being in Garrison. Bunch of piss tests and uniform inspections, room inspections 😆.

L street barracks Weapons

Some of the arrested were still tried, found guilty and sentenced, but many were released for exactly the reason you mentioned.

Aside from the fact charges were dropped due to the way the arrest was conducted.

​@@gt131970 Now they can continue to smuggle in peace. If the way someone is arrested is enough to allow human Smugglers go free. Then the system is broken. I guess it's not called "Criminal" Justice for no reason.

That is why we have rights. You can’t pick and choose who gets those rights. Like it or not the smugglers had rights and they were violated. In the eyes of the UCMJ that is the bigger issue. It’s on the command’s fault for being ignorant and blowing on arresting the smugglers

@@Cptn201 If the manner they are arrested breaks their rights (like presumption of innocence), then they should absolutely be let free of the accused crimes for which they were arrested for. Its the system working as intended to uphold rights written into the constitution that cannot be bended because you were sure of the fact (pre-trial) that they are guilty

@@Cptn201 There are rights for a damn reason. You err on the side of presumed innocence rather than presumed guilt. Think about that.