I think the breaking point was amber being a real hostage for annisa to use against Mark, amber being a normal human just literally a finger poke away from death, it was the scariest thing she's ever dealt with, and this was a situation where an enemy knew marks true alias, his lineage, and used someone he loved to get what she wanted out of mark

When you're a superhero you don't really have time for most of these types of stuff. You have a big responsibility for the safety of the people you're trying to protect. Unless your partner is also a superhero or is cool with you gone most of the time and always come back home beaten up, chances are you ain't gonna have a lasting relationship

@@patrickzalatoris3206 yeah, all the more reason this was better than the comics

@@TheUltimateCancerCell straight up facts

Exactly, it provides the same sentiment as the comics while improving it by making it more emotional.

I’m not changing my mind.

And they didn't even have to make her white, look at that

@@tajniak4335 That wasn't a major issue and wouldn't have a been an issue at all if it didn't seem like Amber was given a pass for being awful which has a very unfortunate correlation with real world events. The fact you brought her skin color into this without anyone else bringing it up very much proves why it became a problem.

@@willyvereb I brought it up because there were lot of people defending show Amber by sayng negative backlash against her was "because she was black". Which was bullshit.

Oh nooo 😭​@@jon4661

Yeah. It could have been like Season 1

between breaking up and potentially have her neck broken, I prefer the former.

It could have been like in the comic where Amber started seeing another guy behind Invincible's back.

@@franciscoOrellana29 modern tv writers would NEVER let a female character be shown in a negative light lol. “brave and stunning” only

@@Thorn_416 I mean yeah but I think that after the beating his father gave to invincible no woman would want to do him that kind of harm xD

Daniel Bryan: YES! YES! YES!

As sad as this scene is. We all should know by now that Mark and Eve are the endgame couple this series is going to be moving forward with from on. It was only just a matter of time until we got this scene of Mark and Amber officially breaking up.

The ending actually made me cry.

@@stephenking5852not me since I knew mark would be with Eve like in comics without the affair part

YES! YES! YES! YES!

Yea they dropped her character flat on her face due to show time constraints. A minute here or there focused on improving or explaining her character would have a made a huge difference.

@@mismatch5015I mean her character is much better at the end of season and continuing in season 2 vs the beginning.

I personally read *the scene* as just her reacting emotionally in the moment, the "you may be right but I'm still pissed and I don't have time to process that atm" which I can relate to. But also I think they just straight up admitted it somewhere that it was just a writing mistake

@@vfugjjhfuyft Hell, I'd go as far to say as her saying that she knew, was a lie because of the emotions making her so mad she just wanted to hurt him then dad happened

@@vfugjjhfuyft Yeah it was very strongly implied but not outright said in an interview. They basically were trying to make her smart and have more agency but didn't notice the implications of how they lined everything up. With how everything lines up "I've known for months" makes her sound like a crazed sociopath.

i didn't even notice that when i was watching, what an amazing choice this whole season has had a perfectly picked out soundtrack tbh

LITERALLY IT WAS SUCH A GOOD CHOICE

This scene made me fall in love with Ethel Cain and I have never heard a single song from them. What a beautiful song it really pulls at my heart strings but I guess the scene doesn’t help either 😢

Amber S1 was a crazy psycho. Why they rewrite different from the comics is beyond me.

It was definitely a realization for Mark that he will never live a normal life, no matter how hard he tries. Hence the scene with Debbie on the roof.

Yeah while i hated amber initially, I came to understand that the writers simply didnt consider what they were doing/saying with her fully in that episode. Ie they simply forgot they had her yell at Mark for leaving her at the college against the reanimen when they had her reveal she knew.

@@NeutralGuyDoubleZero It was a simple fix, either plot out where you want Amber to go from the start as to not have her say anything that makes her seem horrible and contradictory, or review everything Amber had done up until that point to avoid having her say anything horrible and contradictory. AND don't have everyone else around Mark blame him for... keeping a secret that is very understandable as to keep? That's what pissed me off most personally, that it seemed like everyone was on Amber's side afterwards, but that's also what mad it clear that it was a writers' blunder.

@Rannulfus A simple fix that they didn't think of. Oh well. For me it really was just her contradictory anger at Mark, which I think for a lot of people poisoned her other traits. Suddenly her passion for doing good felt instead like it's from a place of selfishness and pride. Her vibe became manipulative and bitchy, instead of fiery and thoughtful. I think the writers are very aware of this from her season 2 djalogue constantly reaffirming her love for what Mark does and that she understands how important his hero work is. She's been somewhat redeemed for me. Her comic counterpart is kind of a vanilla blondie so show amber is more memorable a least.

people say she was bad in s1 but she wasn't really bad in s1 she was pretty good until the writers made a couple baffling choices but luckily it was rectified in s2 and while i found their relationship a bit tired this scene was so well acted and written i was so sad

Anissa: (licking her lips with that sadistic smile)

I'd say "Took them long enough" but yes

@@marcopineda9507 oh hell nahhhhhhhh

@@sauzy0 lol 🤣

I think the difference between Debbie and Amber is, Omni-man had no real threats, where as all Mark has is credible threats

Omni-man is an ABSOLUTE unit and Mark is pretty frail compared to him so Debbie had nothing to really worry about.

The thing is Omni man didn’t have people that could go up against him and he made it pretty clear his identity was secret. Mark on the other hand has the responsibility of being the earth’s protector and has viltrum people looking at him at all times.

Amber has the will. She makes that much clear when she says this isn't about being brave, but rather about her lack of agency, that she can't stay in a relationship where her life feels so inconsequential. It's not that she's afraid of dying, she afraid that if she died it wouldn't be about her, that all it would be is a way for one of Mark's enemies to hurt him.

Well, in season 1, even when Amber knew Mark was invincible, she pretended that she didn't and blamed Mark for always being late while he tried to save the world. If she didn't know Mark was invincible, I'd be like, OK, she has rights to blame Mark. It's not just about the race that she's black. I didn't even give a damn but I was still like: "I wish Eve and Mark were together," y'know? Otherwise, I don't hate Amber.

yeah like lowkey everyone is rough on Amber. I've seen the same people complain about her attitude in season 1 for being too abrasive and then complain she was boring and passive in season 2 lmao

​@bensadfleck9972 you can't please everybody. I actually liked Amber's character this season in comparison to last season.

@@Erciyas1551. She knew for a couple of weeks 2. She could have just pretended to know out of spite, “I had a vague suspicion and I turned to be right”

​@@tengu8560 quit making excuses for her, she's a trash character

Nah. Still no sympathy.

​@@tek512ya don't speak for everyone, buddy

I think all of the hate will move from Amber to Anissa

They could have acknowledged that here. Maybe have her say something like "Now I know why you didn't want to tell me. I'm sorry". But I still think this was a great scene.

They still should have kept her like her original self, not just her personality mind you but her design as well. Raceswapping is not only lazy, it's very racist as well. From white to black or black to white doesn't matter anything in that regard.

and everyone ship Mark and Eve since ep 1 :D I mean... even people who don't know anything about comics know that Mark and Eve are supposed to be together. :D It's SO OBVIOUS:

Nope. Amber is still the worst 🤣 (yeah I know what Anissa will do but Amber in this show is still worse). 🤣

Daniel Bryan: YES! YES! YES! YES! 🐐

Too soon man

Celebrating a breakup is always shitty. I wouldn't be with my current gf who is way better than my ex bf, but that doesn't mean celebrating the breakup is a thing I should do

​@cryochick9044 bro this is an animated couple, who cares.

​@@ssj3gokonicright? ☠

I'm actually happy that they broke up. I even applauded. 👏

@@SpammytheHedgehog idiot

Amber looks trash

WTF DUDE

@@francocosta165 I told you the naming was weird.

Exactly, they made Rex openly admit to needing things but have to throw curveballs or caviats with Amber.

Oh and Rick

True. It comes off as pretentious in a way to make it seem like Amber is "stronger than she looks" despite Anissa proving otherwise.

I think the point was more (dw i dislike amber) “i know im brave and strong…. For a human a literal equivalent of a god had their hand around my throat im not built for this life!”

@@ratchetexperience8379You can be a person of great character but fold to a shotgun pointed at your head lol

🤣 Well, she doesn't care (he also won't be single when she... you know) 🤣

Amber is a worthless pos thats why

I agree, why they hate Mark and Amber together, to me they are perfect together. 💔💔💔😢😢😢🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿

I think It’s because of what happened in S1 where amber was pissed at mark for disappearing during an episode acting like he abandoned her and the next episode where he told her the truth she was like “I already know your a super hero, I’ve known for weeks” so her “anger” is unjustified as she knew he was the guy who saved her, will, and the collage and the fact she never apologized for what she said and did.

I'm happy they broke up. I don't care what anyone says.

It's mostly because of how she acted during S1. She acted terribly towards Mark, so people kind of dislike her.

She makes that exact point saying she doesn't wanna be that person. Did you watch the scene?

Just like a Whamen 😅

I mean she almost could’ve died.

Yes but she was well aware of the dangers and still treated him like the bad guy last season. ​@@tariqmuhammad471

I mean it does have something to do with her since her life can be in danger just being with him.

This dude blatantly ignoring season 1 lmao. She sucks and no amount of retcons will change that

​@Reno750 so did the writers to be fair like they clearly just ignoring that argument ever happen lol

@@GameHunterDeathhunter honestly? Maybe for the best. There's no way you can really justify Amber being angry in season 1 and the backlash was real. Could've had Mark get mad back at her for her reasons, but it would've felt awkward to do so much later on. Her reasons here are fully valid, there are people who can't date Cops/Firefighters/military for the same reason, and this is honestly what a lot of people voiced as being what they WANTED Amber to be mad about early on. For me? I think if they just changed one thing about Amber's initial blow-up, it would've been just fine. If Amber stated in that blowup (and wasn't mad at Mark for not spilling the beans on his secret identity, OR for spilling it TOO EARLY!) that she wasn't mad at *him*... just mad at the situation and the fact that she COULDNT blame him because what he was doing was good, but it was still tearing her up regardless, which is the concern she expressed here. I still hate that scene in Season 1, but I think going a different route instead of trying to double down on what was clearly a bad change from the comics? I think that was a good call on the writers part.

No, they merely reverted her personality back to her original self. They should have kept her like how she was in the comic, which includes her appearance. Raceswapping a character just to appeal to a bunch of racist people just leaves a bad taste in my mouth (and yes, raceswapping a white character to being black IS racist. You are essentially saying that her original skincolor "isn't good enough". Imagine if it was the way around).

@@nielsdejong I mean... I'd agree that raceswapping white to black for no reason than just to appeal is pretty racist, however it's not crucial to her character for being a certain appearance. I think the character's just fine appearance wise, my only gripe is how she blew up in Season 1, as everyone has made clear they're not okay with either. There's a difference between raceswapping solely for the sake of appealing, and raceswapping because 'honestly it doesn't matter', and Ive got no issue with this. This is a different matter than taking, say, Iron Fist and making him Asian (Which also is kinda racist that people feel the need to make martial arts characters all asian...) When one of the aspects of the character is to show that he's not a native to the place he works out of, as it was intended originally to give an idea for Americans as to how it feels to be the outlier via having him work out of China. Then you've got someone like Mary Jane Watson. Much as I loved Zendaya's character in the Tom Holland movies, I could never get over one thing... She didn't have red hair. Sounds small, sure, but that was always a striking feature about her! She still commanded presence whenever she was on screen and talking, but in a different way that I was fond of, so she still stuck true to the character itself, but the lack of red hair always bothered me as a fan. so then we go back to Amber. None of her features were particularly striking and nothing ever was super important in regards to her race/culture, so there's really no issue in changing her race... specially since it wasn't shoved down our throats every 5 seconds.

Season 3 was already confirmed 💯

S2 and S3 were confirmed long ago in 2021 Kirkmen is shooting for 8 seasons of invincible to cover all 144 issues

That's the question and the answer Is: Yes.

You know what song this is?

@@bussincheeksgod1839 televangelism by ethel cain