I'm weird and I enjoy reading dystopic science fiction. However, I am not enjoying living in it.

"There is infinite hope in the universe, but not for us." -Franz Kafka

It’s sad how few views mark&carrie get... like it’s sad how few people care about intelligent debate and how few people can even follow stuff like this. I feel like lack of education is the actual biggest problem our democracy faces

'maybe we're all the same wave. maybe it's 1979 and it's new wave.' i about fell out my chair laughing at that point

The show is about the U.S., sure, but the references to Sweden are fascinating. Those people aren’t just good looking; they’re healthy and smart with it. What is it about anglophone culture, our aggressively self-focused individualism, that makes it so hard for us to pull together in times of crisis? It is specious, a cop out in every sense of the expression, to blame our “so-called” leaders for not being individuals of Napoleonic stature. Democracy doesn’t work like that. Democracy of the representative sort is an uneasy compromise between competing interests. That’s what makes it so hard for our governments to act effectively in times of crisis. Scandinavians do it better because they govern by consensus. Their electoral systems do not enable a party with 51% support to ride roughshod over the other 49% of the voting population.

Great talk again, guys, I Iook forward to it every week. *Both* of you are The Sharpest Knives in the drawer. D.A., J.D., NYC

Weekly Mark and Carrie... Lets make it happen.

Carrie - Melbourne, Australia is pretty seriously, harshly locked down at the moment. Mark is right about NZ - Auckland - they and Taiwan go to the front of class in this global epidemiological exam. Our (USA) rate is 100x Korea's infection/death rate - remember that listening to Republicans telling us what a great job Trump is doing. D.A., J.D., NYC

Over a billion dollars spent on campaigning and this is the quality we get... Well, we had a substantive candidate, who ran a great campaign but the DNC was able to pull an epic Machiavellian maneuver and shove him out. It seems enough people didn’t want quality and wanted garbage instead. I heard Carrie complain often enough about Bernie, I don’t know why she isn’t happy 🤷

They'll be happy to hear about SARS-CoV-2 "microdosing" in Silicon Valley.

Even if the Swedish death toll is not rising up as much now as it did earlier, they still have way more deaths of covid than most other European countries. I just checked on worldometers and as of now, the numbers of deaths related to Covid per million people is in Norway 51, Finland 64, Germany 121 but in Sweden 586. So even if their death toll remains low now, they have to go a long way before getting to the values these countries have if they ever reach it.

Ah we finally mentioned the sweden looks like my euro centrism comment a couple of months ago did not fall on deaf ears. Ill continue to listen to you guys again.

"maybe its 1979 and its new wave" LOL

Is anyone running a book on Boris’s time left ?

Excellent analysis on CV19.☕️🐸

The death rate has been falling here in the States too. Cook County, the county I live in, had a death rate of over 4.5% months ago. It has been going down ever since and is now at about 2.8%. As we learn how to treat the virus and as more an more get tested what is happening is that more are getting better and more are not even getting sick or their sickness is not bad enough even for a hospital stay let alone for death.

I always enjoy this show and I like both of them, although I cringed at Mark's remark about height near the end (although Carrie got him back with her remark about teeth).

I'm listening on Oct 14, exactly a week later. It's all over - Trump claims immunity (not from prosecution, I hope) and the world has forgotten he had it - if he did. it takes longer to assemble a podcast than the situation under discussion does to change radically. Is it even worth trying to think about events that pile up faster than snowflakes in a blizzard?

UK isn't any better. Everyone looking at being laid off either before Xmas or in the new year as the new furlough scheme is absolutely trash. But at the same time Germany have expanded their 80% for extra 2 years.

Have Glenn Loury on your podcast.

I worry that Mark is slowly getting away from the core message he has been communicating in the last 4 years.

Mark while correct on many aspects of a veneer preface; COVID-19 in this episode not so good!

Can we rename this podcast Carrie reads out the NY times and Washington Post twitter feed and Mark opines and puts shit in context?

Why is Mark so disparaging of Trump? Surely he knows that the alternative is utterly intolerable.

The Swedes are not doing well compared to Norway and Finland and nobody know how long immunity will last. Therefore the herd immunity bandwagon is a dangerous one to get on. And furthermore we are not having a second wave, itsasecondry wave, is still the first wave. A second wave is when immunity is lost.

I think it falls on the people to do their best to not make things worse! Politicians r not the solution!

She's funny

that comment about newspapers only is pertinent if you regularly talk to 3 or more people each day.

The supreme court does not have absolute power on constitutionality. That is something we tend to forget. Both parties like to pretend it does so that things like citizens united don't have to go through the legislature. Donald Trump or Joe Biden could at anytime say they disagree with money being free speech and therefore the rules prior to citizens united apply again. Thanks for the opinion but we disagree. The court has no constitutional power to stop that and it is not a crime to ignore them on constitutional interpretation.

Crap, no video again. :-\

I think that completely mispresented and perhaps misunderstand the seriousness of the COVID situation.

Porn, musak and ordo ab chao all in one place. Where's the exit?

I need some links for that micro dosing.... So i looked into it, its a blank theory that might be true based on some past stuff but is a shot in the dark with no scientific study behind it yet...

Personally I see one real difference between Biden & Trump the question of more wars. Biden is a certainty Trump? I favor The chances with Trump.☕️🐸

Mark should do more research... It sounds like he actually believes the bounty nonsense

If you want to know how Q fits into the Flat Earth scheme, watch Folding Ideas' video 'In Search Of The Flat Earth'. Dan Olsen nails it.

Another school of thought...Sweden finally have all the old and vulnerable highly managed. Easy conclusion.

Well I managed 2 minutes and 12 seconds of this drivel . I think I'll look for that hope elsewhere .

You both seem to be well informed people which makes your underlying assumption that a DNC run country is an alternative to Trump.😂🐸

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