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How fast is the base model 24-inch M3 iMac? More importantly, what wins in the battle of M3 iMac vs M1 iMac? Or M3 iMac vs Intel iMac? In this video, I run a real-world Final Cut Pro test, and the results are… well, very surprising indeed. You don’t want to miss this one!
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CHAPTERS
00:00 - Intro
02:55 - My test procedure
04:09 - 27-inch 5K iMac
06:44 - M1 iMac
08:36 - M3 iMac
11:50- Conclusion
@MarkEllisReviews 9 ай бұрын
I knew this would kick off some debate 😉 Who’s still rocking (and loving) a 27-inch iMac?
@sidensvans67 9 ай бұрын
I am . The new imacs look and feel cheap . Jumped up ipad . I´ll stick for now .
@j4n1976 9 ай бұрын
Still rocking it. Do have a m2 pro 14… but mainly use the iMac. Would kill for the iMac as screen for the 14
@ancientxtitan9313 9 ай бұрын
I'm still using my 2017 27inch iMac. It is still powerful for what I do. Too bad it doesn't get new updates anymore.
9 ай бұрын
I am too. 2019 i5 with top graphics. Would be perfect if not for a fusion drive...
@suzannerichard2991 9 ай бұрын
I’m still loving my 2019 5k IMac!! The fans rarely kick in … I have 64gb of Ram and run Final Cut, Premiere Pro and Davinci Resolve! As long as it can update to the current OS I’m fine. 👍😎
@alexkoulouris8768 9 ай бұрын
It’s possible that the difference in export time is due to the 32gb vs the 8gb on the M1 & M3. I would be interested to compare the M3 with 16GB to your 27” or simply remove some memory from your 27” and drop that down to 16GB vs the 8gb. I have a suspicion that the results will tell a different story.
@RichWithTech 9 ай бұрын
Although I agree with your theory I think the test method should be the other way around meaning, instead of gimping the old version to bring it down to the weakness of the new version it should be repeated with MORE RAM for m1/m3s 16 and 24gb
@Kevin6t8 9 ай бұрын
@@RichWithTechUnfortunately, adding RAM is no longer an option on M1-M3 Macs.
@simono4991 9 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same. The 16GB versions of the M-series iMacs may have done better. But it also shows there's life in the Intel iMacs yet though.
@danteburritar2822 9 ай бұрын
Pretty obvious it’s the ram and/or drive speed difference. How much video ram (graphics card) has the intel got? Make sure the intel iMac only has 8gb RAM (including the graphics card vram) or more likely put more ram in the M1/M3 to make them equivalent. Mark is comparing Apples to an intel orange.
@mrlt1151 9 ай бұрын
Aren’t the Apple silicon iMacs here about half the price of his 27” 5k? That shipped with 8gb ram?
@elgonwilliams7624 9 ай бұрын
The bandwidth is the problem. The 8GB is causing at least 5GB to be shifted to the SSD, which on a 256GB model runs much slower dues to bandwidth constriction than a 512GB or 1TB drive. Increasing the RAM to 16GB would solve the export problem as that process is memory intensive. The base models are intended for folks who aren't doing what you're doing, per se. And Apple wants people to upgrade the SSD and RAM because of the extreme markup they charge.
@hoochygucci9432 8 ай бұрын
Memory swapping is the problem.
@bobh2185 8 ай бұрын
The "APPLE TAX" on what should be cheap ram upgrd to 16 and SSD to 512 (is that $400+) has kept me from flipping to apple silicon. I would like one of these, but don't like to be taken so obviously.
@zeronim1965 8 ай бұрын
so basically, if you need a REAL working mac you picking not a cheapest version but the one with +400$ (+ram+ssd), and that mean that cheapest versions of apple tech is a scam?
@acidtechno 8 ай бұрын
jeez why is there a 256 option ? most phones have more storage . its crazy
@ronitsingh85 7 ай бұрын
freaking all in the hidden fine print!! What a rip off! Thats a lot of dough for a small percentage of performance increase, even its significatnt, the cost alone is not justifiable. This is why waiting a few more yrs will solve the problem. @@bobh2185
@tristangarel-funk3236 8 ай бұрын
I've certainly no desire to abandon my perfectly functional iMac 27 (2017). But I have no doubt Apple and Adobe are working hard to render it unusable as soon as they can.
@Quinefan 8 ай бұрын
@jonny_laguna There's plenty, isn't there? Stop supporting it with software updates. But I think there's a standard 10 year period before they do that (I could be wrong about that, haven't checked).
@daniea2009 6 ай бұрын
I believe they are ! It’s so annoying
@skepticon9390 4 ай бұрын
Depending what’s inside, your 2017 iMac will likely last and be quite functional for another ten years! I keep my 2020 i9 5K 27”iMac running in a sort of hardware/software stasis. The MacOS, FCP, Logic Pro and the entirety of Adobe’s Creative Suite are locked in where they were about six to nine months ago. I ordered the iMac with the optional 16GB AMD RX 5700XT GPU and immediately upgraded the memory to 96GB using two OEM 32GB SO•DIMMS - There’s no room for hardware upgrades… If it runs great today, it’ll run great next month, next year… I donated my maxed out 2010 iMac 27” to a private school library and it’s still running and serving as the library’s card catalog and library asset workstation. I only hope my M3 Max MacBook Pro lasts as long!
@denblaakop 3 ай бұрын
Which I hate both of them for, the brand have lost 85% brandvalue to me, just because of how they force upgrades. We should all repel about this.
@Taxiway_Alpha 24 күн бұрын
@@denblaakopSo what you’re saying is that Apple should continue to actively work to support x86 processors when everything else they produce uses ARM (including the latest versions of the product line in question)? Does this mean they should support Intel Macs for longer than the standard 7 years?
@davidsteinberg9523 9 ай бұрын
Your tests show that the render is processor dependent, while the export is memory dependent. I'd love to see you do the tests on 16gb m1s and m3s.
@scratchanitch 8 ай бұрын
Probably...but we'd need to see the metrics to be sure. The export writes will go into the file-system cache before being flushed to disk, which will be triggered some time after the export completes. Having a larger file-system cache (more memory) means that the writes to disk can be delayed for longer and so are less likely to slow down the export. But this means that the export can outpace the sequential write performance of the SSD. A deeper performance analysis to show where the bottlenecks really are would definitely be interesting.
@digitalearbeit 8 ай бұрын
Does it say in the video, if he Exports to an external disk? The M1/M3 internal disk should be way faster than the Intel ones. For me it’s the memory. Apple won’t upgrade the memory on these since it would kill their own pro market. Just release a 27“ model w 32/64/128Gigs of Ram and we have a……. iMac Pro.. for 3500€ entry price..
@keoghanwhimsically2268 8 ай бұрын
During export, it is going to largely be storage bottlenecked (assuming no format conversion). Memory is used only for buffering, and 8GB is sufficient for that. So, he’s testing storage.
@carlosbudge22 8 ай бұрын
Right, some tasks benefit from GPUs and from memory, not just CPU features
@ericseaberg5840 9 ай бұрын
I have the last 2020 iMac 27" with 3.6GHz 10-core i9, AMD Pro 5700XT 16GB graphics and 128GB RAM. This replaced a 2011 i7 and I figured it would have to last a LONG TIME, so I got the biggest they had at the time. The fact I could upgrade from the base 8GB RAM to 128GB on my own was a major plus!! I do some video with Avid & DaVinci, but mostly audio post-production for Radio, TV & Film running ProTools, etc. This iMac will stay with me for a long time. BTW, our studios have MacStudio and MacPro Towers throughout the facility, along with some really BIG rendering farms, and I still like my iMac better!! THANKS for the "real world" review!!
@DojoOfCool 9 ай бұрын
My background is in software development and I worked for a few Mac software companies, so when Apple announced they we're going to switch to their own chip I immediately bought a new 27" iMac with Intel i9 chip. I'm still daily driving that computer and it is as fast as M1 and M2 Mac for my audio work. I would buy a new iMac if they still made the 27" or bigger model. The iMac is a great Mac and Apple needs to bring back large screen iMacs.
@MrTLsnow 8 ай бұрын
Stage Manager is annoying
@nowandrew4442 8 ай бұрын
M2 Mini + decent 27" 5K screen and you're set.
@JoshuaHults 8 ай бұрын
Buy a nice screen and mac mini with max chip. This way you can update computer without having to update screen every time! I had 27’ imac too, and was waiting for another one but now i see how dumb that is when i can just get the screen of my choice, or dual screens and get a desktop
@getnyrb 8 ай бұрын
Great test thanks. I went for a refurb 2020 27" to replace my 2017 a few months ago.. I've upgraded the RAM to 32gb. I would have considered the M3 however the smaller screen put me off.
@scottjohnson8335 9 ай бұрын
I loved this comparison, as I had an 27-5K iMac and recently upgraded to an M1 Max Studio for editing purposes. And my experience matches this. Renders are faster, but exports are about the same. However, I am fine with this. I export only 4-5 times per project and usually do that overnight. But I render continuously throughout the edit process. So overall I save huge amounts of time with better render speeds.
@ForestHill_UMC 8 ай бұрын
I heard about this and immediately bought OWC’s Thunderbolt Dock. It worked like a charm on my exports.
@TheMrMarkW 8 ай бұрын
Yep - I went from a first gen 27" iMac 5K to an M1 Max Mac Studio with an external Thunderbolt RAID and upgraded the RAM to 32Gb and the storage to 1Tb. The storage speed is insane - using Blackmagic's Disk Speed test I get 6.1Gb/s write & 5.8Gb/s read on the internal SSD. Compare that to the iMac where on the 1Tb Fusion drive I'd barely hit 1Gb/s sustained.
@watchcommander2012 9 ай бұрын
It’s the total production time that really counts and also agree if it was the 16GB Unified Memory version with 512GB SSD it probably be a lot different result Great Video Mark
@JohnArmwood 9 ай бұрын
8GB of Ram are is not enough for export. That should be obvious.
@Tigerex966 8 ай бұрын
That $400 more ouch.
@Tigerex966 8 ай бұрын
@@JohnArmwood not according to most Mac KZfaq channels over the last three years.
@AndrewTSq 8 ай бұрын
@@Tigerex966 to be fair, youtubers are often these days, just an expansion of companys pr-department.
@Tigerex966 8 ай бұрын
@@AndrewTSq they are basically free advertisement and often.at the cost 9f only lending them. The product or giving them invitation to events
9 ай бұрын
As much as I fully understand your disappointment with export times, I missed one consideration at the end - the total time for both operations. And it should be added, as it actually creates the whole picture. If you add both - time for render and time for export, the results are significantly different: Intel - 15:51 min, M1 - 10:02 min, M3 - 6:38 min. The M3 is 58% faster than the Intel and 34% faster than the M1. You see clear benefits if you multiply this by the amount of work you typically do on the Final Cut. I produce between 4 and 7 hours of KZfaq content a week. My production time is usually twice the final product length. If I could save 58% of production time by switching from 2019 i5 5K iMac to the M3 Mini Pro - then why not? One last thing - I wonder how different the result of the M3 would be if you had the 512GB SSD - based on two and not only one NAND memory chip?
@jeansienkin 9 ай бұрын
It's because of the limited 8 gigs of RAM. Max Tech did a test comparing the M3 with 8GB RAM vs the same M3 with 16GB RAM, 16 gigs exported the video 4 times faster... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ntOHg8do2qu9dY0.html
@mrlt1151 9 ай бұрын
I have a similar 2017 5k iMac. I bought the higher end configuration that was normally stocked in store. I paid $2,300 USD for it. The base model compared here is $1,000 cheaper. You can get the top spec with 24gb of ram and a 1TB ssd for $2,300. I imagine that would change things quite a bit. All that said, I don’t use the machine professionally, so for the amount of time I spend in front of it editing photos and videos, I’ll likely keep it until it becomes a problem. If I were editing for a living, I’d imagine this machine would have earned me a stack of money in 6 years, and certainly over a working week the speed difference would be worth the upgrade. I think he should make that distinction in his conclusion. The most apples to apples comparison for me would likely be an M3 Pro Mac Mini configured to around $2,600, Studio Display $1,600, and $300 of keyboard and mouse. $4,800. The old Intel iMacs were a deal. Of course, with the Studio Display, in 6 years I’d just be on the hook for another Mac Mini, and I could skip the mouse and keyboard as they still work fine.
9 ай бұрын
@@jeansienkin - I fully agree with them on the subject of RAM. My only computer with 8GB of RAM is an M1 Air I use for travel and most mundane operations. It can do 1080p and even a 4K video project if needed, but watching how this fan-less pal is fighting hurts. :D It is unfair for those to work that hard and be that good. :D
9 ай бұрын
@@mrlt1151 - well - some of us made a mistake and didn't want to wait for a proper iMac to be built... ;) Talking about me :D I quickly bought the iMac in 2019, as my old MacBook Pro 15 was sold. I bought the best config with 8GB of graphic card memory but made a mistake ordering it with 2TB Fusion Drive instead of a small SSD. And it was a HUGE mistake, slowing down all work.
@mikefelton574 9 ай бұрын
@ Use an external NVMe SSD to edit from which solves the issue of the Fusion HD.
@Lovesongofprufrock 9 ай бұрын
I love my 2020 intel iMac. It runs sonoma and works well. I also don’t want to reduce real estate to 24 inches. I’ll wait for an upgrade. Great video as always!
@jasonk9779 8 ай бұрын
I doubt you'll get one. I went from a 27 inch iMac to Mac Studio and Studio display. Works great.
@neilsplace11 8 ай бұрын
yep, I have 2019 iMac, stuck an i9 and 32gb in it.... love it
@ttusch 7 ай бұрын
Too expensive...... Mac Studio + the Display... that's a lot of money bro@@jasonk9779
@geoffthefarmer 9 ай бұрын
I love my 2017 27" iMac. I spend much more time looking at the excellent 5K monitor than I do waiting for it. To replace it with a 5K monitor and Mac mini or studio will cost me twice what I paid for my 27", so I will be sticking with it for some time yet.
@joesalyers 9 ай бұрын
The M1 was the only chip in the M family to not get the full hardware encode/decode engine with the full FPGA on the chip, the M1 Pro & Max and M2/M3 families all got that extra little boost. Also Modern encoders since 2015 have made HEVC or H265 the standard so no one (developers) works on rendering performance for H264 anymore. The Radeon 575X can render HEVC footage just have a quick test of that and you will really see the differences. But sadly the poor little original M1 didn't get the hardware encode/decode option but every chip after it did.
@StreetsOfVancouverChannel 8 ай бұрын
Very interesting to know!
@mikey9836 7 ай бұрын
does that mean if you have a m2 or 3 series chip you should use HEVC when rendering?
@joesalyers 7 ай бұрын
@@mikey9836 Yes the HEVC/H265 codec is far better supported than H264 in MacOS since 2014, but the encoder for HEVC is much faster on all M chips compared to H264. The hardware acceleration on the M chip encoder for HEVC is much more efficient with better results.
@mikey9836 7 ай бұрын
@@joesalyers awesome thank you for the info!
@joesalyers 7 ай бұрын
@@mikey9836 Cheers!
@MegaSelby 8 ай бұрын
I put a 1TB internal SSD in my 2017 5k iMac. Also upgraded the RAM to 16 GB. It cost $250.00 AUD using an Ifixit Kit. I’m quite happy with the way it has turned out.
@dalroth10 9 ай бұрын
A very interesting real world comparison test. I've got a late 2014 iMac 27 inch, running MacOS Big Sur v.11.7.10. Unfortunately I can't upgrade to MacOS Sonoma and security updates for Big Sur stop at the end of November 2023. So I'm facing the dilemma you describe and have a decision to make. I don't do loads of photo or video editing but really love the 5K Retina screen. My options seem to be; move to an iMac 24 inch with the 4.5K screen, or combine a Mac Mini with a 5K Apple Studio Display. Based on my use case I'm leaning towards the latter option. My reason for this is that I'm pretty sure the display will outlive the Mac in terms of usability and therefore swapping the Mac Mini for the latest one some years down the road and keeping the Studio Display will be more cost effective. I'm not having any problems with my iMac 27 inch, so intend to wait until Apple bring out the Mac Mini with an M3 chip. Would appreciate your thoughts on this.
@tomschimana1009 9 ай бұрын
Besides RAM, it could primarily be due to the different control of the SSDs. If I understood correctly, with Apple Silicon, the control of the SSD is such that you only get the full performance starting from 512 GB (internal this are two 256 GB Flash and double)
@MarkEllisReviews 9 ай бұрын
It could indeed!
@vxsniffer 8 ай бұрын
true, my base M1 Macbook Air had 2 x 128 NAND chip SSD running at full speed due to multichannel feature, while my newer base M2 Mac Mini has slower 1 x 256 NAND chip SSD... but still, this is enough and you will not spot the difference in daily use ;-)
@Stompbox99 8 ай бұрын
This is true and would be a much more fair comparison as the base models of the silicon iMacs are under the price of the intel and you would get the 8 core, 512GB M3 and still be under the Intels price.
@rebeccaw9656 9 ай бұрын
My take away is that’s it’s crazy that a recent model M1-M3 in only a stock standard budget 8gb, stands up to an older top of the market (of its time) spec 32gb Intel Mac. Also, these machines will run for years to come, you can’t really go wrong.
@MarkEllisReviews 9 ай бұрын
What a nice, interesting, measured response. Thank you 👍
@glennfoote395 9 ай бұрын
A person of reason!
@ianmearsphoto 9 ай бұрын
The alternative view though is that your current fastest processor range and £1400 system couldn’t trounce a system at least 5 years old. 5 years is an age in technology terms!
@Omar-kl3xp 9 ай бұрын
@@ianmearsphotoit has nothing to do with the processor but everything to do with the ram and storage ,I bet if he used a 8gb ram in the intel iMac in export the result would have been very different ,look at the rendering difference between the intel iMac and the m1 and m3 ,comparing 32gb ram to 8gb ram is never going to be fully fair for export ,but if he even used a 16gb ram m1 and m3 the result would have been vastly different
@rey1953 9 ай бұрын
That 27 in IMac is not top of the market. I have the same computer with 32 😅Gb of memory but an Intel 4.2 GHz i7 processor. I had it sitting around and just recently set it up. I set it up because I have been hoping for and upgraded newer IMac. Runs Ventura, lot faster than the truly ancient IMac I was using before but having software issues with Titanium and Sonos. This test was quite interesting though. I can get by for another year or two and see what Apple does.
@JoeCastellon 8 ай бұрын
Render times are important but for me the deciding factor was always timeline performance. I used to edit on a base model 13” MacBook Pro 2015 and though the renders where anywhere between 40 mins to 6 hours, the real pain point for me was how sluggish the timeline was when editing. It would take me 6-16 hours to edit an 8 min video. When I finally was gifted a Mac Studio, editing times went down to just a couple of hours tops, and render times didn’t give me enough time to go get my coffee at the kitchen. Even with the M3 Max available, I won’t need to upgrade in a very long time.
@michaelknight6077 9 ай бұрын
Try the tests again but with Activity Monitor running in the background. In the memory tab, at the very bottom and center you should see “Swap Used” with a 0 bytes. If it’s not zero, you don’t have enough memory.
@TJONGoogle 9 ай бұрын
I have almost the same set-up and was considering the downgrade to the 24" and I have not yet been sold to move from the larger, lovlier screen on my 2017 model which I upgraded to 40 GB 2400 MHz DDR4. I am also disappointed about the decision to limit the amount of imputs on the back of the machine unless you are willing to pay more. To me, Apple has changed its schema such that they are making Macs only for people who can afford it (Mac Studio/Studio Monitor - for the Mercedes class of people - not for artists who are really struggling these days), not really offering greater access to most. So for this reason I'd rather consider the Mac Mini + a non-Apple monitor. Time will tell.....
@stefanograziano4618 7 ай бұрын
apple always did computer for people that can afford them, is nothing new. In the past at least was cheaper to upgrade ram and drive, now that is a thing I miss.
@ferdinandogiusepperotolo638 9 ай бұрын
It's a matter of RAM and Ssd slower; using 16GB and 512 GB Ssd, you could have a different result.
@StCharlesFilms2 9 ай бұрын
A useful and practical test, thank you. I’d also be interested in the results of the same test on a Mac Mini M2, as I’m considering this upgrade from my iMac 27”…
@afriedli 8 ай бұрын
I've heard that the standard M2 models are no faster than M1 boxes in practical tests, so you might want to consider the M2 Pro model. If you don't need the extra performance, I'd recommend the baseline MacBook Air, which I use myself. I mostly use it with the lid down as a desktop machine, but greatly appreciate being able to pick it up, pop into a sleeve and take it with me if I'm on the move. If you want that flexibility and an M3 processor, the MacBook Pro is an option!
@tkusterb 9 ай бұрын
Does the 32g of RAM in the Intel iMac help it export faster against the 8g on the M1 and M3?
@butlerwm 9 ай бұрын
As some of the other comments have mentioned, system RAM and overall process times should be factored into the equation when comparing products. Otherwise it's an Apples to Oranges issue. Additionally, there were i7 and i9 iMacs available before the switch to M-series CPU/GPUs. Each has their own cost to performance equations. All-in-all, I like what I see in the Apple silicon machines. In the world of computers, there is yet to be anything called perfect. Still, we continue toward that goal. Good video.
@JM_2019 8 ай бұрын
Please also consider Apple claims Apple memory would be twice as effective as Intel memory.
@SirTools 8 ай бұрын
Love this "real" world test. I am sitting on my 27inch Pro for now and just keep wondering if the hype is worth all that coin. My 27 inch iMac shows no signs of issues or slowing down, but it is maxed out from ram to graphics. Until the old iMac shows issues or problems with newer software, just feel like it's best to just sit and wait this out.
@Websnap 8 ай бұрын
Clearly, it’s your money to invest with, but this test is inaccurate, just because of the RAM. Now if your work is very RAM dependent and aren’t looking to upgrade the ram on a new M professor Mac, then don’t upgrade as you bent see much value. But if your work leans on the graphics and main processor ability, the M chips will blow you away. As a designer illustrator who also cuts video, the speed improvements were unreal
@SirTools 8 ай бұрын
Thanks Websnap. I'm holding off because all the reviews just fall short for me. At this time my old 27 iMac Pro seems to be doing the job. I was tempted when the M1 showed up, but the reviews didn't show OH WOW numbers or smoother video handling than my old machine. The studio was interesting but total out that price with the display it feels like a waste of money, and the Studio has been lagging behind with the M chips. I was expecting the studio would be a lot more bang for the buck and once again the studio is now M2 and behind the M3. Guess we need to call Tim Cook and explain it to him LOLOL..🤠
@Websnap 8 ай бұрын
@@SirToolshey, to each their own. I had only commented because that 27” intel was the machine I came from. I went with a 16” MBP M1 Max and I found the “day-to-day” difference staggering. Similar to his first test. Because I opted for the 32gb I never hit the bottle neck he did in his second test. But like I said, if you are happy, to each their own, but it’s not as close as this made it seem. Cheers.
@SirTools 8 ай бұрын
Love to hear more because reviews just are not hitting me with that " got to have it" feeling LOLOL. The ram like you point out would be the big difference. I can honestly say my iMac Pro is handling everything smoothly, but maybe next year I'll pick up something in a laptop and see how good it all works. Thanks again !
@ronmac1832 9 ай бұрын
Dang - I was pricing out a new iMac at the beginning of the video and by the end I was cleaning the screen on my 2019 i5 iMac. And don't call me Shirley!
@matoatlantis 8 ай бұрын
04:30 you can upgrade memory on later modes of imac. Latest one is iMac20,2 from 2020.
@charlespotts1919 9 ай бұрын
Would be interesting to see if you run the export test on all machines 3 times over just to see if the numbers vary, would also like to see the test ran on Davinci Resolve, willing to bet a dramatic improvement..., but great video as always..
@Emuspaul 9 ай бұрын
Very interesting. I have a newer 27-inch that takes forever to render my long videos. I just don't want a smaller screen if there's not much difference.
@Tigerex966 8 ай бұрын
Which machine. Are you taking advantage of quick sync video encoding some leave this option unchecked. How much ram and do you have a true SSD not fusion drive. All of those can slash the rendering times as can an egpu with say a 6600 6800 6950 egpu. Which are not that expensive anymore. You can beat the m3 max and m2 ultra in many video editing work loads by adding a Samsung 4gb SSD pcie 64 to 128 GB ram a egpu case and a and rx 6600 6800 6950 all for $200 for day the SSD $400 for SSD and ram. And $2-$300 for egpu enclosure And $150-$350 for used GPU. Plus you get full windows for much better game frame rates of any game or 3d software some Windows video editing have insane render times using quicksync and AMD and dual GPU rendering together or resolve or adobe or final cut .since the Intel Mac is older you have more choices of which IS system or app to use without having to translate in risetta
@BUDS228 9 ай бұрын
I still have the 2017 27” iMac but it is getting slow. I would like to upgrade to the new M3 iMac but very disappointed there is not a 27” version. Does anyone know if the Mac mini with the M2 pro is as fast as the M3 iMac? If so I would rather get that with a 27” monitor (not the ridiculously priced studio display.)
@bcreason 8 ай бұрын
An export is dependent upon drive performance. Drives haven’t changed that much over the last few years, so export speed should be close to the same. Impressive processor performance though, with the render.
@EventH 9 ай бұрын
I think the point was for the old intel mac, one could upgrade the ram and storage cheaply as needs increases but for the apple silicon it means getting a new one all over again. With the apple silicon, they have turn the desktop/laptop upgrade cycle into that of a phone/tablet... creating more ewaste down the road.
@Patricia-kk8tr 9 ай бұрын
Especially if the owner failed to disconnect it from their account it cannot be reused. Not sure if Asahi Linux could be implemented either
@stevens1041 9 ай бұрын
Great review. I do keep wishing for a 27 inch variant. I'm happy Apple is still offering the Vesa option on these iMacs, pleasant surprise.
@martenlundin 9 ай бұрын
or a 30" ?!
@stevens1041 4 ай бұрын
@@martenlundinthe older I get, the more I appreciate those larger screen sizes. 30 would be great.
@Guitar6ty 2 ай бұрын
An excellent review as it keeps it simple for first time buyers. A follow up on accessories would be good but keep it simple and relevant.
@bilalcurmally7972 8 ай бұрын
I think also another small tidbit people dont take into account is that the M chips in all of apples benchmarking is based on the ProRes format packaged in Quicktime. So yes when it comes to encoding to a different codec and package say MP4 H.264 the encoders take a lot more time. I know mac love ProRes especially FCPX it is heavily optimised for it. I've used a lot of Arri Alexa Pro Res 4444XQ 4k 10-bit and my 15 inch 2015 Macbook Pro runs it easily even on Premiere Pro. Granted It is mainly offline 30-60second commercials that are edited but it just goes to also show how well optimised the intel chips are in handling different packages and codecs
@davidflynn8052 9 ай бұрын
Great video as always Mark - would it be possible to do an M1 vs M3 comparison in day to day work? For example, does Safari load quicker, how many tabs are okay in Chrome, MS Office performance etc. Most other tech reviews focus on Cinebench scores, rendering, photo editing etc., things which very few people actually use the iMac for (or are hard to translate for real world use). If you took that approach and tested along those lines, you'd definitely be setting yourself apart from others.
@xavierlobre 8 ай бұрын
Well my guess would be that Intel has a better hardware engine regarding h264 encoding which could make sense (Intel is way more experienced in hardware throughout all kinds of designs - see Arc Encoder). It would be interesting to compare details on those h264 files though because profiles and levels might not be exactly the same as well as entropy which could also explain the gap. It would also be interesting, during the first rendering part, to see CPU use. It might be appear that the ProRes media hardware encoder that is new in M3 plays also a significant role when compared to Intel and even M1 (if your project is setup with ProRes as rendering codec - which it should). I always saw ProRes as a low-intense-processing codec but it might be more demanding that what I believed it to be, especially in higher resolutions.
@stefanograziano4618 7 ай бұрын
well, consider also the ram disadvantage, which probably is the culprit, more then the encoder. the intel has 32gb the other 2 only 8.
@bowwave59 8 ай бұрын
I got 5k iMac. 5 years old. At the time I got the fastest intel processor and their top graphics card . 32gb ram and 2 terabytes ssd. It works a dream. £2800 back then. FcpX works great . Never known it to be more than 5 mins to render and export massive files. It updates still and has the lastest OS operating system. 👌
@johntruongpictures 9 ай бұрын
Difference in RAM regarding export times. 32GB vs 8GB
@akin242002 9 ай бұрын
Great testing video. Export times were close, but Render times were amazingly better for the newer models. Total time spent to complete the task still benefits the M3 iMac.
@dannyarroway4187 9 ай бұрын
Excellent video, thank you for doing this! For many of us, real world tests are always preferable to theoretical benchmarks.
@MarkEllisReviews 9 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@Bassistking 8 ай бұрын
Now the question is how do these machines perform with extrapolated specs (i.e. base Intels vs base Apple Silicon) because while the test had a rudimentary element, the Intel iMac was souped-up while the Apple Silicon models were base configurations.
@pud469 8 ай бұрын
I think that souped-up isn't the term Apple used when they made their own comparisons to previous generations, being that you are right using base models. There are always numbers or claims being left out of advertisements, just for this reason. AMD, Intel, Nvidia do this too when they release a product. Though, not being an Nvidia fan, what they show for comparisons, seem to be the most transparent and repeatable recently.
@user-rn1hn3fg5y Ай бұрын
Your "experiment", test, was truly interesting and fun. Have both machines.
@MarkEllisReviews Ай бұрын
Thank you!
@nicky5593 9 ай бұрын
I don't really know what I'm talking about! But like others my first thought is 32GB vs 8GB memory... 🤷♀ Anyway - another great video thanks x P.S. I know you don't do benchmarks, but I'd love to know the SSD read write speeds on the base M3 iMac..?
@AndreasC81 9 ай бұрын
That just comes to show how important the amount of RAM is.
@aportman58 8 ай бұрын
I have been an Apple/Mac loyal customer for over 30 years and over the last few years have become so frustrated and angry with Apple. My office looks like a graveyard of computers of all kinds that have been pushed out and killed by Apple coming out with newer models ever few months. I am almost to the point of ending my loyalty for Apple/Mac products. I really think Apple needs to be sued for intentionally designing products that are not compatible and/or become obsolete/dead only after a short duration.
@mrdonsmith 6 ай бұрын
I had a 2017 designed iMac Pro which I bought new in 2019 for $6300. It was decked out at that price. I recently got its trade-in value at Apple and, although the iMac Pro was still like new, its trade-in value was under$500. A friend then, by chance, offered his M1 Mac Studio Ultra that he bought new for $4k. 'Ultra' means that its processor is two M1 MAX chips connected as one. I paid $1500 for it. I also bought a new 27-inch Apple Display to go along with it. The performance difference was astounding to me. I'm sorry I didn't officially rate the difference, but I can tell you that short videos exported from Final Cut were done so quickly that the time it took between pressing the key to start the export and the time to look over to see the progress, the video was already exported. So many things worked so much faster than my 2017 iMac Pro with 64GB of RAM and 2TB internal drive and the fastest graphics card available at the time.
@mo_kiwi 9 ай бұрын
RAM! 32GB vs. 8GB (unified). Do the Test with a 16GB M1/M3.
@jimtipton8888 9 ай бұрын
Or an equivalently priced (adjusted for inflation) MBP. The MBP would smoke the Intel machine. I don't think the folks buying the M series iMac are doing any serious video editing.
@PromotingTheBeat 9 ай бұрын
Doesn't matter how unscientific it is, they make perfect sense. It looks like the rendering time you save, you almost make up in exporting, but, you're still doing it in much less time overall and I think that is what is important in this. Just got my M3 ( upgraded from the 5k 2015 iMac, no issues with it, just upgraded ) and I'm really happy that my first concern isn't a concern anymore ( getting used to a 24 from a 27in ) In Geekbench tests, my M3 flies over my 5k... only thing where its similar is in the Graphic using OpenGL, which is weird but who cares.
@grahamniven 4 ай бұрын
Surely the combined time for both operations is the most useful info? As a Lumafusion user I find this render and export as two operations quite odd, Lumafusion does both as one operation. And yes, you can use Lumafusion on an M1 iMac, and yes it works really well.
@DaveEtchells 9 ай бұрын
Vis a vis OS support, the Open Core Legacy Patcher (OCLP) software does an amazing job of letting even very old Macs use current or at least very recent MacOS versions.
@ianmearsphoto 9 ай бұрын
I think it clearly showed that Apple have developed processors that are excellent when it comes to handling video tasks. There’s two reasons I think why they all had similar export speeds. The first one could be the SSD’s as it’s well known that Apple put slower SSD in the base size for the M1 machines and looks like they have probably done the same in the M3 version as well. If the CPU/GPU can output for export faster than the SSD can handle then it’s going to start filling up the memory quickly as cached data and then everything slows down whilst waiting for the SSD to catch up. If you have access to a device with 512GB or 1TB it would be interesting to see what happens.
@GunerHuseyin 9 ай бұрын
It would be interesting to see how long the export would take if you downgraded the RAM back to 8GB on the 2017 iMac. Got your old RAM chips handy?
@MrWinger1951 9 ай бұрын
I'm perfectly content to continue to use my 2017 iMac 5K until it longer functions properly or crashes. I do a lot of RAW photo editing, and some video editing, and it doesn't have me wanting more processing power or speed.
@math-one 8 ай бұрын
I mean, exporting 30s slower than an older Mac running on four times the memory (32GB vs 8GB) is actually a win for the M1/M3.
@thomashartmann5037 9 ай бұрын
Interesting, but I have two thoughts: first and foremost, could the export times be depending on the amount of RAM (32 vs 8 GB) and/or the SSD speed, and number two, for me during exports I tend to do other stuff so it isn't that critical, but before that when i really do the video editing on the timeline, I want the machine to work without hick-ups. Besides that I really appreciate your videos. They are both informative, down to earth, not to technical and done with a great amount of good humour.
@MarkEllisReviews 9 ай бұрын
I appreciate the kind words, Thomas - thank you!
@ind2bkk 9 ай бұрын
If you're considering an upgrade, the Mac Mini Pro or Mac Studio are excellent choices. For more demanding applications, it's advisable to bypass the base M3 model and opt for the Pro or Max versions instead. These offer significantly better performance and are more suited for professional use. The M1 and base M3 models, while competent, are generally more aligned with the needs of casual users.
@smgumbycat 9 ай бұрын
Apparently RAM makes a big difference (32 GB vs 8 GB) for Exporting in Final Cut Pro.
@TrogART 9 ай бұрын
Interesting, agree with the two prior comments re RAM and Davinci Resolve for a more detailed comparison.
@ianhumphrey7218 9 ай бұрын
As you said that you upgraded the memory in the Intel iMac, I think you should downgrade it to 8gb of memory and then redo these tests, that would be a fairer way of comparing the difference between the old and new machines, I think the tests you have done with these machines in their current configurations, although interesting, do look somewhat flawed. Also, given the massive difference in the rendering times, the overall time taken would still be hugely more beneficial on the new M3 iMac.
@d.r.martin6301 9 ай бұрын
Since '08 I've had three iMacs, all Intels. Two of them have been problematic for various reasons; one flat out died, the other has annoying issues. So I'm not inclined to buy another iMac. I resent buying that beautiful monitor that becomes a paperweight if fatal issues occur. If I decide on something new for my desk, it's going to be a Mac Mini with a nice monitor.
@martinimweb559 9 ай бұрын
I really like your "none scientific, none professional" - but grounded and realistic test. I also like that you made fresh installations and picked the basic models. Thank you for this test and I hope to see more. Here here two suggestions: 1) There is one thing I really miss: You verbally rush through the specs. it would be way way more convenient, if you do a simple text overlay with basic specs 2) You can't compare a 32GB machine to a 8GB machine. Your results would be valid if all three machines had the same amount of RAM. Also, consider, that FCP is not optimized for M3 yet.
@DiveDiva2007 7 ай бұрын
That was fascinating- now I realise I really don’t need to upgrade our 2 x 27” 2018 iMacs with i7 processors and 48gb of memory. They both work just fine and I can’t see anything in Sonoma that I am going to use or need. If Apple come out with new 27” iMacs then perhaps I’ll rethink, but for now we love our iMacs and they’re staying put.
@jrstrong 9 ай бұрын
I'd suggest doing an Open Core Patcher (or any of the open core's) to 'benchmark' ALL CPUs in Sonoma, Ventura, Monterey and Big Sur?
@CollectWithRyan 8 ай бұрын
Hi mark, could you please do a M1 Vs M3 base for photoshop and lightroom? I can’t actually find a review or comparison anywhere!
@ronaushohenahr5589 8 ай бұрын
Great test Mark! I made the same experience with my MacPro 2013 10core 64GB. The only big difference I can report is around 4K rendering. This is more or less not an option on the MP2013. As I don‘t need this option I‘ll stay with the MP2013. This save resources :-)
@scottstevens7639 8 ай бұрын
Sometimes when new processsors are introduced, software vendors need some time to optimize their products to that new platform. You may find you get different results on exporting in a few months time.
@nateblair8616 9 ай бұрын
Can you do us one more test?! Let's see an M3 with the highest RAM available (24 GB). That would give us a great comparison to the older machines AND the 8 GB M3 machine.
@TFtoysAddict 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for this comparison. I’m still editing on my 2017 5k i7 iMac fully spec’d out. Been using it for 6+ years and It’s still fast enough for what I need it to do. It’s fast when I edit my Canon EOS R footage but editing my R6ii footage i need to create proxies. Again though it gets the job done.
@rgbcom 5 ай бұрын
Great video! The total time for render and export is way faster in the M3. As you say, deliver faster and get paid faster. Not to mention OS version.
@brad30three 8 ай бұрын
Possibly the difference in the export is the fact that the bandwidth has not improved that much between the processor, RAM and Nvme drives in the last several years? It’s still using the same PCIe lanes?
@kjamison5951 8 ай бұрын
I’m running a 2012 Mac Mini with 16GB RAM and a 256GB SSD and 1TB HDD with Mojave. If I was to upgrade at this stage, I’d lose my licensed version of Photoshop and I’d have to go CC. I have a second 2012 Mac Mini with the same spec running Linux Mint. They both do exactly what I need them to do and I’m happy with their speed.
@tbray 8 ай бұрын
just remember : you're still saving about 10 minutes with a faster rendering time. Exporting may not have improved, but rendering things at 1/10th time will shorten your process.
@gnosis7662 Ай бұрын
I would love to see the same test done again but with the 2017 iMac's RAM reduced to 8GB to be equivalent to the other two iMacs.
@hisforhack 8 ай бұрын
How many times do you render during a project compared to exporting a project? If you add the Render time and the Export time the Intel iMac 15:51, M1 10:02, M3 6:39 That's better numbers for a real comparison.
9 ай бұрын
Your export time is probaly related to the memory and SSD size (256GB = 1chip) on those base models, I'm pretty sure the same test with 16/512 version would show very different results.
@Techforlife280 4 күн бұрын
The gpu in the Intel Macs specifically 5700xt smashes the wimpy m3 gpu
@audioquest1 Ай бұрын
Hi Mark Hennie Ellis here. I'm watching your videos and learn a lot. Thanks for sharing
@barryinkpen6026 8 ай бұрын
That was a great test and very relevant for me. My guess would be that the amount of RAM in your Intel based iMac gave you the edge on the export test.
@MarkEllisReviews 8 ай бұрын
Glad you found some value in it 😃
@JoshuaHults 8 ай бұрын
The smaller hd’s in m1 and m2 had slower write speeds, prob same with m3. Getting a better hd even with 8gb ram would make a huge difference.
@inspiredartphotos 9 ай бұрын
Do any other Mac users have this issue. Thank you for this excellent video. I have an iMac Pro base model with 32Gb of ram. I have been wondering about upgrading. I shoot with a Nikon Z9. Nikon N-RAW footage use to and may still require an Intel chipset. I can edit in DaVinci in almost real time. When I add noise reduction to the footage the frame rate rendering really slows down. I do choose to view the footage at 4K. I can do excellent frame captures for still photos. When I export video in a 4K 60 fps 264 format, QuickTime can not play the footage smoothly. I can bring it back into Resolve and I can view and play in real time. Even run of the mill iPhone 10 bit 60 fps unedited clips stutter when viewed with QuickTime. The footage is viewable at full resolution on my M1 iPad Pro. Anyone else having this issue? I have tons of plugins and suites of software, that I do not want reinstall. I have thought about doing a clean install. This issue existed in Ventura and now persists in Sonoma. Some of my Skylum custom look packs are not even available anymore. I use them in my commercial photography work flow. Thank you for your suggestions and experiences.
@karlosh9286 7 ай бұрын
There's obviously RAM spec differences that could make a difference. But that's only if a lack of RAM on one of the machines ends up in more swapping to SSD/NVMe. The processor architecture is obviously the major difference. The x86_64 CISC instruction set of the Intel , compared to the RISC instruction set of the ARM based. How much work they can achieve per clock cycle, and how fast the processors can be clocked. The way the software is compiled would also come into play (and how good the compilers are) So it would appear, that the i5 CISC set can do certain operations a little bit better than the RISC ARM processors (on the export), but a new RISC ARM processor can do a lot more than the i5 on other tasks (the render). IO also comes into this, and how the processors are attached to memory and storage and as I said earlier, if the machine has enough memory to not do swapping. Don't forget M1/M3 ARM based RISC processors are a real lot more energy efficient. This doesn't make much of a difference on something plugged into a mains supply (apart from keeping it cool and the electricity bill), but when running from batteries in a laptop energy efficiency is a major consideration. As for me, I'll stick with Linux, currently running on PC based x86_64 hardware, and I'll consider going to ARM RISC if and when the software is all there and compiled for that architecture. I'm really not into the way Apple want to keep emptying wallets, even though I'll admit Apple make pretty good machines, albeit expensive.
@tmurrayis 7 ай бұрын
In 2018 I bought this 2017 27" iMac refurbished from Apple Canada and upgraded the RAM to 32 Gb. I be a rocker and a lover on this one; at least for now. I also would miss the bigger screen.
@user-yb2rq6zq9s 8 ай бұрын
so, did it worth buying 2 newer iMacs and get paid 10-ish minutes faster? (i.e. that's the difference between rendering+exporting times between the oldest and the latest iMac)
@MrBassflute 8 ай бұрын
I’d like to add my two cents. Export times I think would be magnitudes faster if you used an external SSD for the export. If you were just exporting to it’s own internal hard drive, it’s got a lot of stuff to do; it’s got to run the operating system, Final Cut Pro, and handle the processing of the file. Also, I would say that you should probably have Wi-Fi turned off, because that can cause interruptions, and have all of your Bluetooth stuff turned off, because the newer machines might be trying to interact with your watch and whatever Bluetooth thing you have nearby. Aside from that, a very interesting test. Thank you.
@pud469 8 ай бұрын
You do raise some interesting points, the bandwidth of the internal SSD's on the M series shouldn't be that big of an issue, and the 2017 should be NVME based, but not sure of the generation and lanes. Which if any would keep the 2017 a bit slower. For a direct lab comparison, I'd agree that all accessories should be off. However, I believe this was an average user performance test, this would show that some hardware/software needs optimization as it's using resources which hinder performance.
@markjones8121 9 ай бұрын
I exported a 4 hour video on the M1 and because there wasn’t any colour correction, effects, just a load of 1 second transitions, it took hours. The cpu and gpu weren’t taxed at all. It just trotted along, and it would have done so regardless of what machine it’s done on. That’s just FCPX.
@richertz 7 ай бұрын
What’s been missed is that some software in audio production, only uses the performance cores. Although benchmarks have shown good performance, the real world results are significantly less. In Logic my older i9 processor was twice as fast. They are longer lasting batteries and quieter - but they would be running on an arm processor, with half of it not being pushed. I think the M chips are good, but overblown. Also they have great performance boosters for video, but it’s not across the board.
@MrFuge007 8 ай бұрын
Hey Mark, there is a huge difference between your M series and Intel Macs. RAM. There is a lot of work going on during export and that will show in performance on lot of RAM vs just not enough RAM. Try it with M3 32GB RAM and I bet you will be blown away. I exported video on an M2 16GB RAM Macbook Pro (1TB SSD) and I thought the software crashed out: it was so quick the progress bar did not even shown up.
@mneri84 5 ай бұрын
One thing that seems like is being overlooked is that the m3 completed the entire process in about half the time the i5 took to render… so shaving 10 minutes off the total time seems like a huge gain. Especially if we’re doing a repetitive work load
@pinwheelgrl9304 27 күн бұрын
Seems to me the render thing depends on graphics and the export does not. From past advert observations, Apple seems to care more about graphics/screens than anything else.
@DavidMitchell-gf9jd 3 ай бұрын
I am replacing my 2012 imac. My budget will allow me to buy an M3 imac 8gb ram and 512gb SSD or M1 imac with 16gb ram and 1TB SSD. I use the computer for general computing and some basic photo editing. Which would you recommend?
@glennfoote395 9 ай бұрын
It seems to be a software or memory issue. My hunch is it is a memory issue for added revenue or attempting to gain a less technical crowd. Suggest grid type results window for multiple tests.
@arbee1958 9 ай бұрын
I'll upgrade when they finally return to the 27" screen- I hate the smaller screens
@auramac 9 ай бұрын
I'd buy one now if available. Bu looks like we're going to inevitably get a mini or separate box and screen. I'd love a 32 inch iMac.
@patrickpafarnis5798 8 ай бұрын
My experience, I have change the iMac 27 inch to the 24 inch iMac M1, but some apps are not good working anymore, especially 'Foto" when I tranfer from the old one, more than 10k pictures, the programme crashes, regularly in many photos the colours are very strange, not natural, am very frustrated by this.
@wilcandou 8 ай бұрын
I have an iMac from 2007 running mountain Lion. I came across a site that makes a Web browser for these old machine... works fine but quickly slows down after around ten page hits.
@StofftiereLindner 8 ай бұрын
“I love this kind of practical user” tests. Please go on 👍
@MarkEllisReviews 8 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@mario373a Ай бұрын
I'm still rocking a 2015 iMac 27" with 32GB of RAM, an i7 4GHz processor, and a 256GB SSD. My only regret is not opting for the 512GB model back then but I still love it for what it is. I paid like $3,000 US for this thing!!! I mainly like to edit home videos of the kids in iMovie (nothing professional) and have found that my setup is sufficient. However, I'm tempted to get a Mac Mini with that new Apple Screen or the new iMac M3 for faster Apple ProRes encoding and HEVC .264 to .265 conversions. My work computer is the 2023 iMac M3, so I take my video files to work, but it would be nice to have a faster machine at home. Ugh... Why does Apple do this to us??!!
@BryonLape 8 ай бұрын
I'm still on a mid-2010 iMac. The biggest issue for me to upgrade is the lack of storage space on the newer iMacs. Apple charges way too much for their SSDs.
@DavidHee 9 ай бұрын
That was intriguing and I do worry about support. Hoping a video on the “Pro” versions of the M series may make some budget decisions as the “middle ground” to getting performance but not spending Max level budget.
@Drumming_Monkey 8 ай бұрын
So, a bit of real life experience here for those who are interested. I'm still using my late 2013 - 21.5-inch iMac (iMac14,1) with the Intel CPU and 16GB of RAM. It was barely booting anymore and was basically an expensive paperweight at this point, so I bought a repair kit for € 12, cut up the bad boy (sweat), slapped a 2TB SSD (€ 80) in there, and to say I'm blown away by what this machine can still do is an understatement. It exceeded every expectation I had by FAR. I made sure to install the latest OS Sonoma (via OpenCore Patcher - it's easy, really, have no fear) and this baby runs Photoshop like it's no problem at all. Heck, I can even edit 4k in Premiere Pro. Yes, the fan can get loud for a moment but that's absolutely nothing proxy files can't fix. Just make sure to tell Premiere to only use software for editing and rendering. Otherwise you may get a green screen because yes, that is the old processor's fault. I'm very happy with my decision to pay barely 100 Bucks and basically own a new iMac that runs faster and better than ever instead of buying an actual new one for $2000+ (probably even north of that if I wanted more than the ridiculously small 256GB SSD)