marlinfan1995 I completely agree with all the points you made, and I hope they get back on track with this franchise I adored as a child.

marlinfan1995 so does this all mean the Transformers movies are dead? Or are they really making at least two more films?

mattgamer There will definitely still be Transformers films. Paramount had to just completely restructure all of their plans

marlinfan1995 that’s good, thank you

marlinfan1995 so either way with Bumblebee being a reboot the Bayverse is truly finished

I know it's transformers but it was one of the most unrealistic parts of the film. what I mean is the first 3 were quite realistic and the fourth to an extent but TLK just didn't have that feel of realism in some scenes as it should've. I love The Last Knight but my favourite is DOTM but imagine that film with Megan Fox would probably be the best film.

@@autisticsponge8311 yh i nvr understood why they replaced the original human cast

they even cut out the part when prime slam bee on the ground from the trailer what a major missed opportinity

And still, Prime's fight with Bee was lame.

but you dont get the message you stupid

Yea I don't know what's the deal with the orphaned girl at the beginning. From the trailer I thought she was the female new lead then she was gone for the entire movie and showed up at the end. Also Grimlock shows up as a cameo and acting like a dog then never seen again. This movie was just disjointed and all over the place.

let face it... they don't care at all about the story... it not a movie but a disneyland ride.. that why people kind of done since they care about story as well since they had to sit there for hours.... not a 5 min ride...

Not to mention the sheer amount of swearing, add one more f-bomb and you have yourself a rated R movie

The main problem is that they probably never wrote a script. This kind of story wouldn't work into a three act structure and would definitely be shorter

The movie is easy to follow.

Exactly and they didn't mention the allspark after DOTFM like it didn't exist

Transformer 2 was as if transformers 1 didn’t happen and 3 said nothing existed before it and so on. The thought process on any type of continuity was long forgotten. Each movie contradicted the ones before it. All 5 were a big mess.

True

Like others didn't exist either

@@t2drippy556 also the pillars and the thing that resurrected prime in revenge of the fallen

All of the human characters have sucked

@@trippersigs2248 I disagree but also agree, the first 3 movies had really good characters but from there on uintill bumblebee characters where horrible

@@technicus3412 Sam was somewhat useful i guess. Every other human on the story was either bad gag characters or Micheal bay Jerk off material.

TRippersigs22 Lennox is good too imo

@@mountain6215 he's totally useless but atleast he's isn't a badly written waste of space.

Derek Zwick they cancelled the last movie

The first said they came looking for the all spark and then they said they've been on earth

They also tried to say that Ironhide was here since the 1800s even thought he landed on Earth in 2007

Notorious Punk nah I’d say after Dotm

They need to just reboot it, the bumblebee movie was a good start

I agree. Also I think Dark of the moon is probably the only good transformers sequel. Not counting bumblebee.

The Troll Killer I agree also. Revenge of the fallen was ok. Dark of the moon was really good. Age of extinction was mediocre at best but the last knight was awful.

I feel like they introduced unicron too early. They should do what Marvel studios does and make things lead up to unicron

@@t2drippy556 I think they knew the franchise needed to be rebooted so they decided to do one last movie with unicorn but scraped it since bumblebee was well received so they just went with the reboot

@@milesgraham9142 i think the first 3 were great, but when they started to make transformers it didn't feel the same. AOE Was Decent, But TLK was awful.

same, but sam was nice

I know what you mean Like the humans are so boring in the transformer films

f u

All of us do

agree

Ingen Scientist ID 1993 That is a amazing story hopefully one day they actually make that in my mind I would have liked to see for the 5th movie and 6th movie is TLK 5th that Optimus is gone and some new characters like more Autobots like Ultra Magnus and possibly cyclones and the rest like G1 except it’s the Autobots and Ultra Magnus is the leader against Galvatron and his minions and both sides are looking for Relics from the past like from Transformers prime and the the Autobots have gotten two already the Decepticons have got threee there are 7 in total and only 2 remain the Decepticons plan to trick the Autobots by capturing one of them like Crosshairs and he sends out a desstress signal the Autobots go but Hound stays behind to protect the relics they have collected all the Decepticons attack at once against Hound the Autobots free crosshairs but Hound is down and they get the relics the Autobots rush back to Hound’s aid luckily Hound is in a stable condition but not able to fight so the rest go to fight the Decepticons and Galvatron and the Decepticons wanted all the Relics so they could create a space bridge that if dark energon was mixed with the relics when they where all together make a giant serge creating the space bridge letting no other than unicorn through except he isn’t a giant he’s regular size but packs a heavy punch the Autobots fight the deceptions Mangus V Galvatron Galvtron wins Magnus is badly wounded but then Bumblebee fights Galvatron with hot rod they defat him the remaining Decepticons retreat with Galvatron and the Autobots try to destroy the space bridge but in order to stop the space bridge one has to stay and deactivate it manually and Hot rod says he will do it he makes the Sacrifice for the others while they escape the they while Everyone watches Hot rod deactivate it but everything explodes and bee searches through the remains for him Bee finds him but he says I thank you for a wounderful life till all our one everyone pays respects and says till all our one and at the end 1 year later Bumblebee gets his voice fixed and Hounds back in fighting shape but the camera shows Magnus looking up at the sky and it zooms all the ways into outer space to show Nemesis prime in the knight version except his flames and colors are purple and black his eyes shine as it shows him say I’m coming for you Autobots and the credits roll I think that would be a great story too aswell what do you think that’s what my mind would hav Been

Transmotion , making Optimus the bad guy could be fun if he gets to being good like I proposed. He can return being nemesis prime and fight ultra magnus and Optimus realizes that. They will need to kill Quintessa in order to free prime from the mind control. The only flaw in your story is that you focus on getting crosshairs free and killing hot rod. That’s great but the focus has to be the battles or decepticons and autobots like in transformers 1. Hot rod has to be bees sidekick and prime the leader. Focusing on how to go home and being able to help earth whenever trouble comes. That’s why I’m implementing my story because it follows realistically after AOE. But you have a great point.

@@transmotion3631 ultra magnas was supposed be in the 3rd but they change to sentinel

Same

Sheesh. That sucked man.

Dude you should have just watched dotm

Oh how they massacred my grandson

Be my Friend? Godfather?

Dark Of the moon will always be the best

@@evanroldan9566 even with bumblebee?

@@jedimasteroptimusprime4375 especially Bumblebee It was tge best

Michael Bay stated he wanted the aspect ratio to change all the time for the cinematic experience and to show his take. Also 98% of the movie was filmed in IMAX cameras. So in an IMAX theatre in 3D this movie is amazing. But Michael Bay forgot the people who want to watch this at home....

Unicron being Earth actually happened in Transformers Prime, so it didn’t completely come out of nowhere. Also if you’d like a timeline Transformers Prime ran from 2010 to 2013, whereas TLK released in 2017, so its entirely possible that Michael Bay copied the idea but never went anywhere with it.

@@dravenmowers1631 you beat me to it

Quintessa just in space duh

Unicron being earth is old lore bit most transformer goers dont know anything before the movies because a lot of it is uninteresting and not out in an exciting format.

Fax, and thats what ruins the movie and loses your money. 100% agreed

KZfaq Bot It was both - Transformers AoE and TLK. AoE was bad, but TLK was on another level.

Yes!! This movie was like...wtf? Just should of kept it at first 3

@@GeometricalPhur indeed

𝙸 𝚑𝚊𝚍 𝚝𝚘 𝚏𝚘𝚛𝚌𝚎 𝚖𝚢𝚜𝚎𝚕𝚏 𝚝𝚘 𝚠𝚊𝚝𝚌𝚑 𝚒𝚝 𝚜𝚒𝚗𝚌𝚎 𝙸 𝚠𝚊𝚝𝚌𝚑𝚎𝚍 𝚊 𝚕𝚒𝚝𝚝𝚕𝚎 𝚘𝚏 𝚒𝚝 𝚢𝚎𝚊𝚛𝚜 𝚊𝚐𝚘

@@GeometricalPhur I think the original plan did end at 3 because Megatron, starscream, Soundwave, and Shockwave all died. Those were the last important decepticons

AOE was good tho TLK messed everything up

Suits and creatives just don’t mix

this is very true especially when talking about Zack Snyder and such but are you implying this for Michael Bay cause if so then no, it's quite clear he had free creative control for the bayverse especially for TLK really the only thing that Paramount interfered with was just the run time of the film and it wasn't that drastic lol

Hahahahah what??? In this case, it should be the director who should have LESS control

I agree with u. The movie was choppy and the time line is the only thing that makes me made. But I didn't hate the movie it my least favorite but I still dont mind it

I just liked it because I have an open mind😄.

@@thedisciplined100 same here. from a story telling view, this wasn't good. From an aesthetic view, I liked it

@@jonathanbacenty6485 Not going to lie I actually thought the story had decent potential despite not being on point with the original story. Only problem is that it was not at all well put together; it just looked like they threw things in there without even a hint of organization. Therefore Aesthetics is the only thing we will ever get from THIS particular kind of entertainment.

Yes

Yeah, they thought the whole medieval part was gonna be so epic. Then Merlin just killed the tone

We meet again

Trans Theories Lorenzo diBonaventura lied to us saying stuff like “oh yes there’s gonna be a cybertron flashback, oh yes the fight between Optimus and megatron is gonna be long, oh yes cogman will transform into a head, oh yes the movie is gonna be 3 hours”

Trans Theories hi trans theories! Big fan!

This comment section is lively

Probably an actor change

Hey you can checkout trans theories for this

@@rylan8046 Same actor

Transtheories has a video on that.

Space cigars are hell on the vocalizer, smooth in the taste.

The toys were awsome but the movie sucked

@@Ced9SL yup

This movie didn’t even have great action if u compare it to the others

The action wasn’t even that great. The final battle could have been the best but it was missing several things, such as Drift

Thane Krios agreed, and it annoys me how human like the transformers look after dark of the moon it just doesn’t look as realistic and it was all done for The sake of fucking toys..

"why paramount and the playwrights ruined transformers"

@@chaoticfloralarrangement8741 the first 3 were good

@@notbrutustheanimator 4th was the best,5 had the biggest potential,but lost it

@@ThatBalkanGuy. 4th wasn’t good

@@ThatBalkanGuy. 1st film was the best. 4th was legitimately disappointing

ok 😀

ok 😀

@@projektgeronimo2696 ok

@@theunstoppabledirth9627 ok

@@projektgeronimo2696 ok

@Jaden Bissell what's the problem?

@Jaden Bissell you say it like you never mispelled a word

@Jaden Bissell "you don't know to spell kid" hmmm.......... *GRAMMAR, SON.*

Also yes, and that factors into how understandable the story is, when you have no idea who the heck your characters are, you get sidetracked and lose track of the flow of the story. The og 5, optimus, bumblebee, ironhide, ratchet, jazz, were all pretty understandable, obviously, we know who Optimus and bee are, and ratchet was an ambulance, so we know who that is, we kinda have to take personality into account to see who ironhide and jazz are though, but we get to see who they are pretty quickly

that has been a factor through the entire bay saga, not just tlk

H

Optimius vs megatron lasted 0.1 seconds

ikr its like without them they would have gone extinct and now you fucking genocide them?

The bayverse also peaked to early. With dark of the moon. That movie was finale worthy if tweaked with the original ending and other things. Also if megatron wasn't a joke

@@BasedVegeta oh definitely. Last knight was a absolute joke

I like aoe

Agreed. ‘Age of Extinction’ was disappointing. Most of us fans we’re expecting the developers to fix some of the issues the previous movies had and finally fix them in the 4th movie. The issues actually got worse and that led to most of us having very little hope that the 5th movie would do well. The 5th movie was just total trash.

I was so disappointed in Age of Extinction that I never went back to see the next two Transformers movies in the theater. Still haven’t seen them at home either.

I still don't know what's wrong with AoE, I thought the story was good and had a lot of good character (autobots with personality for once).

Well there is a directors cut, and maybe we will see it one day

Cap

@@metal_fusion debate me noob

@@metal_fusion What? I quite debunked you easily And when did I call it a masterpiece? I just said it’s good. You did nothing

May I ask what were the things in the 2nd and 3rd film that retconned the first movie?

Sten the Tombstone the All spark started out as an unlimited source of energy that could even restore a transformers body in the first and in the second it was little more than an object that could hold energy and needed recharging and could also be replaced. In dark of the moon, it was said that cybertron could be rebuilt with the resources of the planet earth but in the previous films it was a dead husk without the all spark but that apparently doesn’t matter now. Also earths history with cybertronians gets more convoluted with each passing film. In the first bumblebee was on earth looking for Sam by the 5th he’s been here since WW2

Right bro

Squabba the Hutch i dont think any humans should of been in it to begin with :/. Its transformers. Sam isnt a transformer but he gets more screen time then any of them 🤨 sam always steal the spotlight from the autobots and deceptions. So i say no humans just the autobots and deceptions.

I remember I was watching this at home, and this is the first movie, ever, that i fell asleep in.

Very good point. Probably could’ve added something about that while talking about the writers room

Why was he fired ?

Horse Head Nation It’s because Hasbro wasn’t happy with the whole “Creators being Alien” angle he insinuated in AOE. It’s really sad. Ultimately it was the Studio that killed Bayformers. Not Bay or his team.

Why didnt they released the cut scenes

@@ThatBalkanGuy. oddly enough, i think ROTF is the only movie with deleted scenes on a dvd, but i may be wrong. The footage just never gets out there

@@Quintesson16 yes but why? I heard they are gonna release those scenes years ago,but nothing happened. I saw videos in KZfaq with cuttet scenes and ppl said they didnt saw them originally,but I did in the theatger and was expecting to see Cybetron scenes of Galvatron or Barricade battle and such shit

@@ThatBalkanGuy. Some foreign theaters acrually showed The Last Knight with different takes of dialogue and scenes that werent used in the US, it was so bizarre. Idk whay happened, but i wish it was all just there for us

@@Quintesson16 would you watch transformers movie in a different language with subtitles,but great story,cybetron and basically explaining all the story of the transforners on cybertron and Earth?

not bay fault it was all because of confused writers and short runtime for a giant robo movie

Eh, imo transformers 1 is still the best among the five bayverse films.

Caleb Hoffman Must be notification squad lol

Warren I talk about that in the video

He always does lol

Straight facts my guy

Agreed, my on issue with bumblebee is that the transformers look to chi compared to the first 3 movies so hopefully the reboot stays good when and doesn't go off the rails

The first three and Bumblebee are great. RotF to me is great because of nostalgia, action, Megatron, designs and soundtrack.

You are correct!

Not everyone likes that mid evil stuff

20 years later age of Extinction then the last night knight

Because it was trash lol

Death is inevitable. Many Autobots even got killed off in the original 1986 Transformers film.

Bumblebee movie is reboot,differend universe than first 5 movies

Actually, Optimus Primes Knight loot is totally cool and there's no problem as long as it still fit in with the transformers toys.

I dont know, the Action in this Movie was weak compared to the other Movies.

@@AirStyle88 true I still liked bumblebee and optimus prime no matter if the movie was bad or not

@@jr1366 yes, sadly Optimus was only like 15 Minutes in the Movie. Same for the DInobots :(

I just liked the models of their transformers, esp. The new megatron and bumblebee's

fffffffffffffffffffffff uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu the story was fucking great

Ironhide of the Carribbean.

Nigga I'm a bigger TF fan. Foh

Are you prepared for the fight to the death? Winner becomes the biggest transformers fan, and the loser. Well... He uuh.... He just dies I guess. ARE YOU READY?!