Martin O'Neill TRASHES the Europa Conference League & gets into HEATED debate with Simon Jordan! 🏆🔥

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11 ай бұрын

Martin O'Neill and Simon Jordan discuss if Aston Villa should do everything their can to win the Europa Conference League next season, like West Ham did this season! 🏆🤔
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@philip013 11 ай бұрын

What I remember about O'Neil when he managed Villa was doing his best to qualify for the Europa League and then putting out a second eleven and not taking the competition seriously.

@paulos1878 11 ай бұрын

Yes for the extra bit of money its good to land there rather than a position below and when you are in it you realise only the top 5 squads can handle Thursday Sunday games aswell as doing well in their own leagues alongside playing in europe against Mickey Mouse clubs.

@P.Rick316 11 ай бұрын

If teams can't play Thursday, Sunday something seriously is wrong.

@paulos1878 11 ай бұрын

@@P.Rick316 they can and they do but the quality is few and far between.

@andyhulme2274 11 ай бұрын

When you've got relegation to consider the league is number 1 uefa have been adding games on year on year just to create more money.

@Gagefelstead 11 ай бұрын

That's because it's imperative to finish in those places to for monetary reasons.

@4Kmichelinstarmovies 11 ай бұрын

As a West Ham fan, we are happy we won, Good Luck to Villa next season. Why should't mid-teams have something to play for if they don't qualify for the UCL

@gazof-the-north5708 11 ай бұрын

Newcastle fan here and I agree with you 100% mate. The Conference League is a major trophy, There used to be 3 European trophies years ago.

@4Kmichelinstarmovies 11 ай бұрын

@@gazof-the-north5708 people forget we were 7th when we qualified not mid table

@eL--RaL 11 ай бұрын

Why shouldn't mid-table have something to play for?? Then move up top to top 6 then..Is it anyone's fault that u don't get into top 6?? 😂😂

@TerribleEnglish 11 ай бұрын

@@gazof-the-north5708There are only 2 major trophies nowadays: the Prem title and CL.

@Shad0wdave777 11 ай бұрын

@gazof-the-north5708 Newcastle think any trophy is a big competition

@dave-ld8mo 11 ай бұрын

I was sceptical with the conference league. However, I am a big fan of it now. There are so many midtable clubs with huge and passionate fanbases. Also, there are professional teams from smaller leagues like the Austrian league. The fans of those clubs would never get an opportunity to travel and celebrate with their team. And to be honest: the atmosphere created by Florentina and West Ham fans was probably the best out of the whole season

@mfjosh6422 11 ай бұрын

Exactly. There are a lot of smaller clubs out there who don’t ever get to experience European football, this competition is for them to enjoy, why hate on it.

@chairmanalf7856 11 ай бұрын

I’ve been to numerous away matches following West Ham in Europe during the past two seasons and have great memories of all of them. The loveliest place to visit was Seville, whom we knocked out over two legs and Lyon was another. Prague and Bucharest this season have also been great away days.

@irieite9666 11 ай бұрын

While what you say is true Uefa underestimated just how big the gulf in quality is between 7th in England, Italy, France etc and winners of the Belarussian league. The final is always in some pisspot stadium with 10,000 attendance in Eastern Europe when all those teams are Eliminated in February.

@williamanderson8932 11 ай бұрын

the multipolar world order is now🌎👍

@bigpants6121 11 ай бұрын

easily pleased!

@lordvadertheleftie9703 11 ай бұрын

As a Villa fan I absolutely can't wait to see us in Europe again. Especially when you consider I went to watch us against championship teams not too long ago

@dnbdevastator5786 11 ай бұрын

I hope you guys win it and keep the cup claret and blue ⚒

@rohithraman6488 11 ай бұрын

Exactly. When Juventus had a bad season once and had to play in the Intertoto cup they just got on with it and won it. The level of snobbery is incredible

@chairmanalf7856 11 ай бұрын

@@rohithraman6488I totally agree. I call it ‘Trophy snobbery.’ I know that Simon Jordan sneers at the Conference, but show me any Palace fan and I bet that they’d love to take part in it.

@jamesharle1754 11 ай бұрын

Championship clubs are better than conference league teams

@rohithraman6488 11 ай бұрын

@@jamesharle1754 Are you saying Anderlecht, Genk, Fiorentina would struggle in the championship?

@Sdea1903 11 ай бұрын

I'm an Aberdeen fan. For finishing third we get a play off chance at the Europa League, if we fail we drop to the Europa Conference, which guarentees us European football till Xmas. The money generated from this is pivotal for our club to move forward a little bit and sign some players of a higher standard. How is it third rate if it does that. Football is not all about the big boys. Other teams have to survive. Some brilliant match ups at that level too. In fact, the big boys are becoming extremely boring to watch.

@agdala1591 11 ай бұрын

honestly this whole narative is very disrespectful and ignores the fact some leagues in europe will almost never watch their team in european football because top leagues just have accses for some much more money if anything it helps spread money around instead of focusing it on single point

@tonydalton459 7 ай бұрын

Absolutely. Just elitist nonsense from O ‘Neill. Really starting to dislike him. There are other clubs in Europe other than big English clubs.

@jroche84 11 ай бұрын

Does he realise all cups and leagues where made up once😂😂😂

@ItsJesssee 11 ай бұрын

😂😂😂 he’s dumb

@GameRiot 11 ай бұрын

all competitions are made up at some point. Look at the champions league. 4 teams qualify each year? 4 Champions???

@L1am21 11 ай бұрын

Yeah but our domestic titles are harder to win than this thing.

@theoneandonlygus1 11 ай бұрын

I was about to say the same thing, nothing just happens or appear , lol.

@jasonwilde891 11 ай бұрын

The champions league 😂 it should be called the champions and 1st 2nd and 3rd losers league

@graemeblack9963 11 ай бұрын

@@L1am21aye due to money. Its not rhe point though you 🤡

@darreno2428 11 ай бұрын

@@L1am21did you not read the comment properly? 🤦‍♂️

@ma3hamza769 11 ай бұрын

The way Martin O Neil got defensive over the league cup sent me into laughter😂😂😂.

@Ali-lc7vp 11 ай бұрын

He's not wrong - I'd rather win the League Cup than the Conference tin; beating Premier league and championship clubs is far more impressive than [club nobody has heard of until yesterday] in [bumblefuck nowhere]. Nice for a day out, mind. I'd take Andorra or some shite over Hull any day.

@kostas6612 11 ай бұрын

@@Ali-lc7vp Yeah because nobody has ever heard of Roma or Fiorentina

@gman4473 11 ай бұрын

O'Neil rubbishing the Europa league but defending the league cup 😂😂😂

@bh629 11 ай бұрын

That hurt him😂😂😂

@user-vi6wf4gh9x 11 ай бұрын

@@stingingnettle9726Celtic aren't a big club. They're huge.

@rosst8919 11 ай бұрын

its harder to win the league cup

@JamesBiggins-xb4wo 11 ай бұрын

Celtic are a big club massive fan base won champions League

@JamesBiggins-xb4wo 11 ай бұрын

@@stingingnettle9726 depends

@rohithraman6488 11 ай бұрын

Martin needs to realise that even before the conference league, for 20 years 7th place still got you Europe, you got a place in the Europa league qualifying rounds.

@irieite9666 11 ай бұрын

True but from now on it's 8th

@rohithraman6488 11 ай бұрын

@@irieite9666 That was just this season cause west ham finished outside the top 7 and won the conference league, if they had finished 7th and won it, there would have been 7 places in Europe as usual

@spark556 11 ай бұрын

He obviously never heard of Intertoto Cup

@irieite9666 11 ай бұрын

@@rohithraman6488 No. Using last seasons table but this upcoming season rules here's how it would be different..... Liverpool qualify for Champions league as the team outside top 4 with the highest coefficient from the top 2 leagues... This promotes each team below them one position for euro qualifying. Giving Villa Automatic qualification for Europa League and a UECL position to Tottenham. From now on England and Spain get 5 Champions league teams and 8 European qualifiers each season.

@alfieb6711 11 ай бұрын

Until like 10 years ago both FA Cup finalists used to qualify for Europa League so ur wrong there

@n0213862 11 ай бұрын

6:50 - 7:30 is gold! I love Martin’s poised & gentlemanly way of dismantling Simon 😂😂😂. Simon said he would use the break to research and come back again.

@darrenjenkins4735 11 ай бұрын

The man who threw the uefa cup with villa after a whole season of getting into it

@craigharrison3652 11 ай бұрын

Exactly

@lordvadertheleftie9703 11 ай бұрын

That still annoys me. It actually destroyed our momentum that season

@StephenCarrIsBald 11 ай бұрын

@@lordvadertheleftie970327 years and won F all 😂😂

@Murdocke89 11 ай бұрын

@@StephenCarrIsBaldat least we’re not Newcastle. I saw us win the 2 cups in the 90s anyway so I don’t care. Btw winning stuff during the pay to win era isn’t exactly special. Just means you had a bigger daddy paying for things.

@StephenCarrIsBald 11 ай бұрын

@@Murdocke89 what’s Newcastle got to do with anything? And if that’s the case the if you win anything then it isn’t special considering you spend hundreds of millions every year

@jackholmes1017 11 ай бұрын

Back in Martin's day any well run club could make it to europe and then you were a few games from winning it. These days there is almost no chance if you arent an established top 6 club or taken over by a state. Its good for the rest of the clubs to have an achievable european trophy.

@moloperams 11 ай бұрын

The fight for Europa & UCL spots is intensifying. In a couple of seasons, some big teams will be grateful to be playing in the conference league

@fakeitalian1483 11 ай бұрын

They should have just put it back how it was in the old day’s. European Cup, UEFA Cup and Cup Winners Cup

@dapablo2 11 ай бұрын

The CWC was cancelled because it was always the major teams winning the Cup so all the CWC competitors were actually all the cup losers.

@sauravthegreatestpot 11 ай бұрын

A third European competition isn't a new concept. Back in the day, you had the Champions Cup, UEFA Cup, and the Cup winner's cup, which combined gave 5-6 European places to the top leagues. You now get 7 for the PL(4 for the CL, 1 Europa League place to the league, one Europa League place to the FA Cup winner, and one Conference League place for the Carabao Cup winner). Recently, the domestic cups have often gone to teams in the top 4-5, that's why you see teams low down in the PL qualifying for Europe. You can argue whether both cup winners deserve a place, but I'd say it's a good thing that the cups are valued.

@vantheman1238 11 ай бұрын

Good point

@FUGGY1000 11 ай бұрын

It was the European cup not the champions cup.

@scrapydan3251 11 ай бұрын

Hes not wrong is he however, Does he know all competitions are made up?

@scarboroughhammer9684 11 ай бұрын

But they are all made up

@myhatmygandhi6217 11 ай бұрын

He means that a competition like the Champions League is made to reward top 4 teams in the top leagues, which makes sense. But when you make a european tournament to reward teams finishing 7th in their respective leagues, that's just rewarding mediocrity. It's the equivolent of participation medals.

@Minbane 11 ай бұрын

😂😂 my thinking exactly 😂😂😂

@scarboroughhammer9684 11 ай бұрын

@@myhatmygandhi6217 still made up hasn't what you've said doesn't change anything 😂

@jamesgunn7 11 ай бұрын

@@myhatmygandhi6217does it make sense? It’s called the “Champions” League - why are teams sitting 2nd, 3rd and 4th getting in?

@adamg8814 11 ай бұрын

It might be a third rate European tournament but that doesn’t mean it’s tinpot. The game has changed in 40 years. As an Ipswich fan, even though we’ve won the UEFA cup, I’d be more than happy to win it as the game has gotten faster paced

@lordvadertheleftie9703 11 ай бұрын

As a Villa fan I absolutely can't wait to see that 1st European match. It's been so long. That Ipswich team under Burley was absolutely cracking back in the day. Marcus Stewart up front was top drawer

@MrLewbaah 11 ай бұрын

It’s absolutely tin pot hahaha it’s embarrassing

@abody499 11 ай бұрын

When Ipswich won it, it was a very tough competition with great teams. Now it's second rate. Whereas 2nd and 3rd got UEFA cup, now those teams are in the CL.

@rohithraman6488 11 ай бұрын

@@abody499 The current Europa league last season had Arsenal, man utd, sevilla, barce, juve, ajax...

@abody499 11 ай бұрын

@@rohithraman6488 consolation cup for them. Barsa are second rate (always have been). Juve finished 7th this year. Sevilla 12th. It's totally different from what it used to be - not just the format, but the fact that it isn't a priority for those clubs that aspire to go deep in the CL. Man U beat a Betis team who rested their best player for both games. Arsenal too didn't play at full strength. The examples are endless. It used to be a big deal.

@greenandgoldfever7989 11 ай бұрын

Jim White looks like the instigator of a school fight, loving every moment of it 😂

@gooner4life518 11 ай бұрын

Aren't all competition made up at some point in time? I really don't get it.. it's a new competition so it will feel that way but after time the perception from fans will eventually change

@user-xu4xj2cd2j 11 ай бұрын

It's really just a way for uefa and fifa to make more money, it's hard to keep up with now

@gerrycoogan6544 11 ай бұрын

While the Europa Conderence League is unquestionably third-rate in comparison to the Champions' League and the Europa League, I'm surprised that nobody made the point that it gives teams and players very valuable experience of European competition in the same format as the other tournaments. That has often proved to be invaluable for teams which ultimately go on to become European Champions. Back in the days of the ECWC and the UEFA Cup/Fairs Cities Cup, I can think of several European Cup winners who had the benefit of having previously progressed to the later stages or even won the lesser tournaments - I wouldn't bet against future European champions winners who first cut their teeth in European competition in second or third-rate tournaments.

@user-xu4xj2cd2j 11 ай бұрын

Too many competitions now it's hard to keep up with same with the nations league now, uefa and fifa aren't doing it to help clubs it's to make themselves more money

@leeannestuart7057 11 ай бұрын

Oneill did talk about how it gives fringe players an opportunity to play who wouldn't be playing in their league team , you must have been taking the bin out when he was talking about it 😂😂

@chairmanalf7856 11 ай бұрын

I still can’t understand the trophy snobbery from various pundits and football fans. It’s great to be in European competition, at whichever level. We can’t all be a Man City, Bayern Munich or Real Madrid.

@darthvadar441 11 ай бұрын

The cup winners cup was derided as third rate but you had to win your domestic cup to qualify for it. Winning a European trophy is better than finishing without winning a trophy or finishing in the top 4 and winning nothing.

@eL--RaL 11 ай бұрын

West Ham fan 😂😂😂

@IWTBF 11 ай бұрын

Totally agree Martin. The UEFA cup used to be the Micky mouse cup, so what does that make the conference league? A cup for teams who’s finish 7/8th in Europe? Wow…Zzzzzz. It’s been diluted too much. It doesn’t mean anything.

@darthvadar441 11 ай бұрын

@@eL--RaL I'm a Manchester United fan actually. West Ham had a better season than arsenal

@jtmmmm27 11 ай бұрын

Martin is the only pundit who can hold his own on this show.

@Baldrick_dogsbody 11 ай бұрын

Thats cos he is stubborn and one dimensional

@camarad17 11 ай бұрын

@The_L_Shaped_Master No its because Danny Murphy and Martin Keowen are simpletons

@al-dh5ju 11 ай бұрын

Loves the sound of his own voice

@OSIthatgamer 11 ай бұрын

What with? Absolute waffle

@druid59 11 ай бұрын

There are lots of tinpot competitions: Carabao cup, Community Shield, UEFA Nations League, And in my opinion even the boring Champions League which consists of over 80% of clubs who aren't domestic champions. They're just cash cows to fleece the gullible

@rohithraman6488 11 ай бұрын

The champions league isn't a tinpot competition at all. Comparing the ucl with the community shield is laughable

@phsteele84 11 ай бұрын

Martin O’Neill, you absolute legend.

@vjaska 11 ай бұрын

Quick point for O'Neil - Wenger never stop considering the League Cup as something to use the kids in as even in his later years he continued to do so

@irieite9666 11 ай бұрын

For all "big teams" hell even "small teams" its always been a competition looked down upon. Even in Round 1 a team from Championship for arguments sake Rotherham will field a 2nd string XI against league 2 opposition. It's always been about who can limp into the semi final with their reserves and then the competition truly begins.

@emonyagami93 11 ай бұрын

They need to rename it to something else other than conference. After a few years it will then be looked at as a more serious competition for mid table clubs to compete in Europe for

@ryanjohnson6272 11 ай бұрын

The Conference League is a great competition. Why does no one ever criticize the so-called "Champions" League where 3rd, 4th and soon 5th place teams are given automatic spots, while champions from smaller leagues have to go through grueling qualifying rounds

@IWTBF 11 ай бұрын

@darcy6874 11 ай бұрын

I agree with a lot of things Martin O'Neill says but I can't agree with him here, with the imbalance of power between the super rich clubs and the rest, the Europa and Conference leagues give others the opportunity to win a European trophy.

@andyallan2909 11 ай бұрын

They'd be far better to have ONE European Competition. There must be enough room to allow the same number of qualifying teams for European Competition. To attain this there will have to be qualifying rounds for the group stages (for the lower placed teams in the national domestic leagues) with the high finishers (in domestic leagues) going straight to the group stages. To do this, the competition will have to have twice as many groups, but this will only add one extra round to the knock out stages later in the tournament. Having twice as many groups will only add one round to the knock-out stages, and therefore put the final back one week (or the dates could be amended slightly to start the groups a week earlier). There will then only be one supreme competition (with all the kudos that that entails for teams that play in it). You could then (if the failures must be compensated) have a second-rate competition, that only begins at the end of the group stages, for all the third placed teams in the groups.

@diehard21000 11 ай бұрын

Neil has a point .But all 3 European competitions were considered great competitions to win years ago. The cup winners cup was actually rated as the second most prestigious cup to win in Europe behind the European cup.

@eL--RaL 11 ай бұрын

A United fan trying to make cup winner's cup some relevant cup becuz His idol Fergi won it 😂😂😂😂😂

@diehard21000 11 ай бұрын

@@eL--RaL It's called history troll, something casual city supporters like you don't have .

@Baldrick_dogsbody 11 ай бұрын

Third rate ? His joking. You have to finish top 7 in the premier league to qualify for the conference league. And to finish top 7 is very tough to do in the premier league unless you are a regular top 6 side. Mid table and lower table teams will find it extremely difficult to finish top 7. So you basically need to be a very good team . Then you have to compete with teams from around the european countries, some decent european teams too . Remember this year some good european teams got knocked out like slavia prague , villareal, nice, andrelecht, forentina. Then play thursday sunday every week. Tough to do. So its a proper competition , not a bogus competition. Then to go and win it, thats a massive feat to achieve. Its a big deal. I can assure you a lot of the top teams will be winning it in the future. Its a very competitive tournament. And far better than winning the domestic caraboa cup. And apparently what i hear is the conference league winners are ranked by uefa as the 7th best team in europe. Champions league winners being 1st. So it is a BIG DEAL, and its a legitimate UEFA trophy. Not the bogus trophies like the FA community shield or the papa johns trophy or even the caraboa cup. I really hope an english team wins it next season. The important things to remember is that you need to finish top 7 in the premier league to qualify and its a proper COMPETITIVE tournament. Not forgetting if you win it, you qualify for europa league the next season. Trust me, the tournament is a BIG DEAL in european football. So these pundits thrashing it absolutely makes me sick, they should analyse it properly like i have done here, they should be doing thier jobs properly and looking at it objectively instead of giving us only thier opinions and prejudices and snobbery. this is not what they are paid to do. They should be sacked immediately.The lot of them. Why is snobbery being allowed on talksport ?? Snobbery will not be accepted in any other tv show, so why is it being allowed here ?? Viewers should complain. Talksport take note ! But if simon jordan owns talksport, then i guess not much chance of that happening.

@richardredmond1463 11 ай бұрын

Simon nearly shows respect for someone 😂

@ronald.pickering 11 ай бұрын

His argument neglects the fact that the top six have now largely jettisoned everyone else thanks to astronomical amounts of money, largely from foreign sources. Ironically, the Conference League means much more to clubs like West Ham and Villa than the Champions League means to clubs like City for exactly the same reason

@ronald.pickering 11 ай бұрын

@@JordiBoy_ over what period?

@iykeharrison9161 11 ай бұрын

You need to update your mindset bro. Clubs like Villa, West Ham, Newcastle and Everton spend so much that it sometimes rivals the so called top 6. This just concluded season we had Newcastle and Brighton crashing into those top 4/top 6 positions.

@ziudra91 11 ай бұрын

lmao As a villa fan, conference means nothing to me Mickey mouse cup

@irieite9666 11 ай бұрын

I guarantee they'll be saving their first choice XI until the weekend.

@ronald.pickering 11 ай бұрын

@@iykeharrison9161 it’s not just net spend. It’s net spend over 5+ years and wages. Not many clubs can pay players what the Sky Sports 6 can

@MindSurf248 11 ай бұрын

As a Villa supporter, this is the same attitude O'Neil demonstrated with the Europa league when he was managing us. Playing crap squads so he could focus on CL qualification leaving us to get knocked out straight off the bat several years running. We never got CL, and the supporters were left gutted. Conference League matters to supporters, Europa League matters to supporters. If a manager or player doesn't respect that then it just displays arrogance.

@jimeley2580 11 ай бұрын

I really like it! Theres only like a few hundred something clubs around Europe that would love to play in it.

@smithyc2051 11 ай бұрын

Firing the league cup at him was incredible 😂😂😂😂

@tikemyson5627 11 ай бұрын

It’s always been around it used to be called the inter cities fairs cup. Just like the Europa league/UEFA cup used to be called cup winners cup.

@kster2531 11 ай бұрын

Who writes these headlines? That was a heated argument😅? I enjoyed the back & forth but far from heated

@normanhunter7 11 ай бұрын

It does feel like an "add on" though it's a bit more footy to watch!

@user-fe3dc2wt5r 11 ай бұрын

UECL gives clubs that aren’t the traditional “big 6” a chance at European football and give those fanbases that experience of a european night that they may have few opportunities to experience. It actually puts a bit of pressure on the bigger clubs, Newcastle, WestHam, Brighton and Villa are all clubs you wouldn’t expect to be in Europe or finish in those spots in the table. 2 traditional big clubs in Chelsea and Spurs have missed out on Europe completely. Think the competition is a good opportunity for those teams that are building something to really kick on and start achieving and break that traditional big 6 tag.

@holykflooring4537 11 ай бұрын

It's important because the winner qualifies for the Europa league, which is a massive competition. The conference league trophy itself should not be celebrated by any rational person.

@lordvadertheleftie9703 11 ай бұрын

@@holykflooring4537 but being a Villa fan it's incredible to think we'll be playing European football next season, especially when you consider we were playing championship football not too long ago. 3rd rate European competition bar Juventus - yes. Would I take it - definitely

@leazesndr5318 11 ай бұрын

"2 traditional big clubs in Chelsea and Spurs" .... Traditional??? Chelsea weren't that big before Abramovich and Spurs are certainly no bigger than the likes of Villa, Newcastle and Everton, on par with but certainly not any bigger

@rohithraman6488 11 ай бұрын

@@leazesndr5318 Chelsea are bigger now, but as for spurs they aren't bigger than Villa or everton

@westheking12 11 ай бұрын

@@holykflooring4537dude plz y’all are ridiculous it’s very much ok for a fan to celebrate their club winning something. UECL is not a preseason tournament.

@jaypenfold490 11 ай бұрын

I'm a liverpool fan and I respect all three of our domestic cups but if big clubs don't want to participate I the league cup then give them the choice so other teams can stil have the chance of winning it rather then getting rid of it as they will soon change their minds when they're out of every other competition

@Baldrick_dogsbody 11 ай бұрын

I agree

@YanYnwa 11 ай бұрын

I love seeing managers on TalkSPORT

@siwakeman1266 11 ай бұрын

And the champions league is no longer just for champions. Such is life

@GGxHF 11 ай бұрын

At first I scoffed at the idea of this competition, however, it gives something for mid table teams to aim for, and whatever makes the league more competitive can only be good. Also it gives a chance at the Europa League, which is still a good competition, and who knows, maybe you win that and get Champions League

@user-sm1id4xw7i 11 ай бұрын

Iam so sick of these guys thinking the only competitions in the world that matter is the EPL and CL.

@matty832 11 ай бұрын

Every competition is made up.

@scottdasilva2181 11 ай бұрын

It's a modern day reworking of the Intertoto Cup, back in the day. When you won that, you qualified into the old UEFA Cup, which is now the Europa League and by that definition, using West Ham as an example of winning the Conference, now qualifies for the Europa's next season.

@gaffs82 11 ай бұрын

“Do you need time to think Martin” 😂

@andy9735 11 ай бұрын

Nor would there have been any consideration of the carbon footprint of this competition when they made it. But I still enjoyed the conference league final.

@ThereAre2TypesOfPeople 11 ай бұрын

Always enjoy hearing from O'Neill, talks a lot of sense and even when I disagree I love pundits that have an honest and strong opinion and he never let's me down.

@juz882010 11 ай бұрын

these headlines lol

@ziudra91 11 ай бұрын

Actually agree with MON. Conference is a third rate competition. I have not got much excitement for it.

@lucashill1547 11 ай бұрын

However the most entertaining final this year was by far westham vs florintina

@philipguimerans 11 ай бұрын

The thing Martin has overlooked is that European qualification has been 7 teams for EFL for a long time. the only thing that has changed recently is that the Europa league has been split into the Europa League and Conference League, same as it was in 1999, when there was the uefa cup and cup winners cup.

@alantheloneranger 11 ай бұрын

League cup cannot be classed as 3rd rate because all the English league teams are in it, whereas the Europa Conference league doesn't have any of Europe's top teams in it

@vlahovilla 11 ай бұрын

This is true but only because of how it has worked so far... Man United won it this year but if they finished where spurs or chelsea had in the league then they would be in the uecl.

@darrentaylor2853 11 ай бұрын

Who cares what O'NEIL thinks. It's a trophy and worth a place in the Europa league next season.

@tarvold2492 11 ай бұрын

Not totally sure what Martin is on about. It's not like 7th in the Premier League has got given an extra place in Europe with the advent of this competition. 7th usually already got you into Europa qualifying for years before this, depending on FA/League Cup winners.

@mrmochay9222 11 ай бұрын

Loving the new dramatic title sequence

@matthanna7162 11 ай бұрын

As a Reading fan I miss The Full Members' Cup.

@Darkmountaindweller 11 ай бұрын

It’s 3rd rate yet Spurs couldn’t win it.

@richardevans7035 11 ай бұрын

Spurs already won 2 Ueafa cups and a European cup winners cup

@iykeharrison9161 11 ай бұрын

These people have so much pent-up anger towards Arsenal, which they from time to time release in small doses. smh

@boercarlyle 11 ай бұрын

Simon watching the two of them argue at the start of this is delightful to watch. Such a rye grin hahaha

@Dermac1993 11 ай бұрын

I never thought I’d say this Simon and Martin are my 2 favourite partners Keane and Richards Neville and carragher Jordan and O’Neil 😮

@ninopap7677 11 ай бұрын

With League Cup vs Conference League an argument for League Cup is that includes all the best teams in the country whilst Conference League includes mid table teams only

@matthewobrien5348 11 ай бұрын

These 3 with Souness on a tv debate show once a week would be absolutely insane tv. Make it happen.

@Baldrick_dogsbody 11 ай бұрын

I'd be bored of thier stupidity

@ajfraser7648 11 ай бұрын

O'Neill is absolutely spot on! When there was talk of a Super League, everyone was up in arms and the pitchforks came out. Yet UEFA has introduced the 'Nations League', which is a glorified friendly tournament - about as meaningful as the Audi Cup that Tottenham won a few years back. The 'Conference league' is essentially the 'C' level cup. It's a tinpot, watered-down cup. It's like School Sports Day going from individual winners to group events where everyone wins. It's an absolute nonsense.

@DiscordantVice 11 ай бұрын

It is a second rate competition. I’d put it just below League cup. Having said that if you are in it you might as well try and win it but it look at the teams in it.

@thomasclucas477 11 ай бұрын

Winning the conference league is far more of an achievement than winning the pub league in Scotland where the worst O’Neil could of done was finish 2nd 😅

@undersoundproductions1915 11 ай бұрын

❤ cause you like being the best. Even if it's only because your league was given preferential treatment decades ago and has multiplied profit every year since. It wasn't earned but was handed to you. The winners of the pub league won the European cup before anyone from your league. And had 2 European finalists that year from the same city. Then had the first club in Britain to reach the European cup final twice. Your league is filled with teams with great attendances and has done for years. That's great for you. But what other countries have is what it is. Get of your high horse and let us know if you have any knowledge about the game that you can bring to the table rather than sitting like an old hag in the corner shouting insults. Xxx

@possessedslig 10 ай бұрын

Exactly put Celtic in a real league and all of a sudden a the conference league becomes a grade A competition in his eyes

@marcbrown9001 11 ай бұрын

Martin O'Neil you are Savage 😂😂😂😂 personally I enjoy the x3 European competitions. A small team could get promoted from the conference to europa league & finally the champions league in x3 seasons. It is interesting 🤔 ⚽️⚽️⚽️

@SafetyProMalta 11 ай бұрын

Europa League replaced Uefa cup. Cup Winners cup was ditched years ago.

@paulseeman6481 11 ай бұрын

Martin talks about finishing 7th - that’s only because the FA and Carabao cup are won by top 6 sides, and because we have 4 UCL places down to the success of the EPL. At its basic level it’s still top 5/6 clubs that qualify for Europe. 7th place sides in La Liga or Serie A aren’t qualifying for it.

@chuckles471 11 ай бұрын

Bang on with the league cup. Most teams will only take it seriously when hey get into the quarters and semis. And if they got rid of it, it would free up a days so we wouldn't have to hear the excuses of playing too many games. Although I am guessing that yo would still have managers complain that they are too successful and forget they have more than 11 players in a squad.

@rossturnbull8047 11 ай бұрын

brilliant show lads...get intae them MON!!!!!

@chucklemunch 11 ай бұрын

Me waiting for the ‘heated debate’… 🤨

@martinkelly9763 11 ай бұрын

.... i wonder what O Neill thinks of the charity shield

@Efc24 11 ай бұрын

He knows that he’s saying when does it stop

@holykflooring4537 11 ай бұрын

When west ham won, it was a big deal to qualify for the Europa league. I truly cannot understand how/why they celebrated the trophy in and of itself

@dannybradley8391 11 ай бұрын

Using your logic, why celebrate qualifying for a 2nd rate European competition

@holykflooring4537 11 ай бұрын

@dannybradley8391 not exactly. It has a history and is still really exlcusive to qualify for.... I would be happier seeing my team win a Europa League group match than to see them lift the Conference League trophy.

@philip013 11 ай бұрын

Not only does it qualify the Irons for the Europa League, it puts us in pot 1.

@dannybradley8391 11 ай бұрын

@@holykflooring4537 and what's history? Spurs winning the 1st Uefa cup isn't history because the 1st Uefa cup had no history?

@gaffs82 11 ай бұрын

Europa Conference league replaced the Cup Winners cup

@IWTBF 11 ай бұрын

0:51 bang on

@mikethornhill876 11 ай бұрын

In my humble opinion....Champions League should be for the champions of each European League. Top 4 was just a money grab and allowed teams like Utd to finish "2nd best" and accept mediocrity.

@Sidwhite-yb5cv 11 ай бұрын

Well said Martin

@samcrick2349 11 ай бұрын

oh dear Martin lost that argument pretty heavy on the away leg. haha

@CarlitoGio 11 ай бұрын

Still prefer it when it was called the cup winners cup. Chelsea loved that tournament ❤ channel 5 baby

@kaypakaipa8559 11 ай бұрын

these days we love the big boys cup, 2CL, 2 Europa, 1Supercup, 1CwC, all in 11years. I love it.

@nigelnyoni8265 11 ай бұрын

2:19 😂😂😂😂😂

@almarcuccilli08 11 ай бұрын

It's third rate because unlike years ago when you also had three comps, the rules for entry for old European Cup was for only winners of domestic titles. This meant more high profile teams were in both CWC and Uefa etc. Today, most Top teams enter CL and or europa so leaves the lesser profile clubs in conference.meaning its third rate.

@eL--RaL 11 ай бұрын

Bro to think about it, UEFA cup used to compete with European cup for relevancy becuz sometimes we could have world class teams in UEFA cup becuz they were 2nd in their Domestic leagues..Teams like Barcelona, Madrid, AC Milan, Inter, Bayern, Liverpool, United..It was basically an European cup but for 2nd placed teams 😂

@richardhewitt7097 11 ай бұрын

League cup has needed scrapping for years.

@petersmith2522 11 ай бұрын

I agree with martin its the have a sticker for turning up cup cause the main cups are now all bought and paid for and most teams now have no chance and id far rather win the league cup i still hold it in about the same regard as the fa cup

@uk145 11 ай бұрын

West Ham also won the Intertoto Cup, they still talk about that one.

@OSIthatgamer 11 ай бұрын

Neutrals have always hated westham for some reason. From the media to pundits it’s laughable

@kevinfright8195 11 ай бұрын

So European competition 4:05 is just all about the rich and big clubs. What l like about the conference is that it gives ordinary everyday clubs chance to play each other and a little glory. Now West Ham has won this cup, the gauntlet has been layed for others. Good luck to Villa, enjoy the competition...from a West ham fan ⚒️

@chrisgiles40 11 ай бұрын

I love the fact it gives teams a chance to play European football for silverware. In the past it’s nearly been guaranteed same English teams in the champions league most years.

@simapark 11 ай бұрын

Uefa should reward the winner with a place in the CL just like the Europa Cup plus allow both finalists of the Uefa Cup in too which would make the semi finals of the Europa Cup huge games.

@frasierfreak92 11 ай бұрын

Don’t know why people are slagging it off. As the Oil Clubs take over the Champions League, the Europa League and Europa Conference will be filled with old historical clubs with huge fan bases who can’t financially compete with the sportswashing enterprises. I’m a Liverpool fan and I’m actually looking forward to facing some different teams this season, hopefully with some great away trips!