Marvel DESTROYED the Comic Shop | Can COMICS Survive?

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Nerdrotic

Nerdrotic

Күн бұрын

Can Marvel Comics survive with comic shops closing across the country? Almost a month in to this crisis in multiple comic shops and Marvel, their main source of income, has yet to present a real plan. Adding to the worries of shops owners who fear the worst. Abandonment. In the meantime the creatives that helped crippled this industry are up to their same old tricks. The former Marvel editor and current Valiant editor has called American comic fans "the worst." When will reality sink in? At this point it doesn't matter? It's too late.
#RIPcomicshops #Marvel

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@TheMaleRei
@TheMaleRei 4 жыл бұрын
Important lesson: Don't give money to people that hate / despise / loathe you.
@TSPH1992
@TSPH1992 4 жыл бұрын
Wishful thinking
@Xayl42
@Xayl42 4 жыл бұрын
In that case not realy a problem since their comics are probably shit anyway.
@wishofalifetime
@wishofalifetime 4 жыл бұрын
Common sense isn't common.
@jimyoung9262
@jimyoung9262 4 жыл бұрын
Words to live by.
@spinningspin6053
@spinningspin6053 4 жыл бұрын
Me and Moctezuma the second was talking about this the other day
@vonneely1977
@vonneely1977 4 жыл бұрын
Yesterday: "The customer is always right." Today: "Screw the customer!" Tomorrow: "Hungry - Please Help"
@exexpat11
@exexpat11 4 жыл бұрын
"Will work if you accept my Virtue Signaling... And a Big Mac."
@sillypuppy5940
@sillypuppy5940 4 жыл бұрын
Just wait till the recession hits. Those comic stores won't reopen. The online comics won't sell. Good luck, "creators".
@disneytakeshugedix7463
@disneytakeshugedix7463 4 жыл бұрын
Most Western countries are now watching Kdrama and Kreality show with English subs because American, British, Australian, etc TV shows and movies are so bad filled with propaganda from Communist Maoist Morons oops Social Justice woke Warriors leftists Feminist Democrats paid by China to destroy the Western World ! So time is ticking and Marvel and DC’s fan base are shrinking thanks to manga, Chinese and Korean comics ! Ha ! Ha ! Ha !
@Viper3220
@Viper3220 4 жыл бұрын
Look what happened when journalists lost their job and people started telling them to learn to code. They threw a hissy fit and Twitter started removing those tweets under the guise of harrassment. SJW culture protects them from consequences. I don't know what it will take for them to be toppled but I hope I live to see the day
@guidedmeditation2396
@guidedmeditation2396 4 жыл бұрын
Learn to code while wearing a unicorn costume.
@badaxel6336
@badaxel6336 4 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, not a comic book guy, but how these "Professionals" are treating potential paying customers is just sick and twisted.
@mustavogaia2655
@mustavogaia2655 4 жыл бұрын
one comparison is autoracing drivers. On top series, they are paid on the tens of millions and still take a few hours per weekend just to sign autographs. And furthermore, bar one exception I'm aware of, they barely make any political statements or anything that could be seem as judgemental against their customers.
@harrymills2770
@harrymills2770 4 жыл бұрын
@@darthkai8242 : The industry was already collapsing. She's a symptom, not a cause.
@disneytakeshugedix7463
@disneytakeshugedix7463 4 жыл бұрын
Most Western countries are now watching Kdrama and Kreality show with English subs because American, British, Australian, etc TV shows and movies are so bad filled with propaganda from Communist Maoist Morons oops Social Justice woke Warriors leftists Feminist Democrats paid by China to destroy the Western World ! So time is ticking and Marvel and DC’s fan base are shrinking thanks to manga, Chinese and Korean comics ! Ha ! Ha ! Ha !
@gsxerwhite
@gsxerwhite 4 жыл бұрын
These people know nothing about business and have never had to actually work for anything their entire lives.
@kurington.blogspot7876
@kurington.blogspot7876 4 жыл бұрын
what customers?
@fathersthoughts484
@fathersthoughts484 4 жыл бұрын
How the hell does a comicbook company hire people like this, and think this would be good for the company they represent???? Wtf, is it that easy?
@outsidelookingin4657
@outsidelookingin4657 4 жыл бұрын
You only have to have One Administrator or Director who's that way inclined and it starts. A good example is Kathleen Kennedy, one leads to more until the company is totally WOKE.
@disneytakeshugedix7463
@disneytakeshugedix7463 4 жыл бұрын
Most Western countries are now watching Kdrama and Kreality show with English subs because American, British, Australian, etc TV shows and movies are so bad filled with propaganda from Communist Maoist Morons oops Social Justice woke Warriors leftists Feminist Democrats paid by China to destroy the Western World ! So time is ticking and Marvel and DC’s fan base are shrinking thanks to manga, Chinese and Korean comics ! Ha ! Ha ! Ha !
@TowerofAboveandBelow
@TowerofAboveandBelow 4 жыл бұрын
@@outsidelookingin4657 Sounds like a virus invading a cell and using it to proliferate.
@Solisium-Channel
@Solisium-Channel 4 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Patrick soderland
@guidedmeditation2396
@guidedmeditation2396 4 жыл бұрын
Fish rot from the head down.
@nilpointfive
@nilpointfive 4 жыл бұрын
If a restaurant is failing, it’s most likely a problem with the food and/or the service. Marvel has been serving up shit soup with shit attitude, what did they expect.
@DeaconG1959
@DeaconG1959 4 жыл бұрын
The truth is that if a restaurant can get to 18 months, that's what will kill it from that point on. Most don't get to 18 months because they don't have the financial reserves to weather the building up of their clientele. Marvel reminds me of a restaurant in my neck of the woods that was a renowned seafood diner for 20 years despite the fact it was basically a hole in the wall, but it was a damn good hole in the wall that no one had a problem waiting two hours to get into. When they decided to expand, they dragged their feet on the construction, then hired a bunch of people who just got released from prison to wait tables while they cheapened the hell out of the food to the point where it was barely edible. They shut down a year later...and everyone in the county shook their heads. They had the clientele and word-of-mouth for two decades, and they urinated it away in...18 months.
@disneytakeshugedix7463
@disneytakeshugedix7463 4 жыл бұрын
Most Western countries are now watching Kdrama and Kreality show with English subs because American, British, Australian, etc TV shows and movies are so bad filled with propaganda from Communist Maoist Morons oops Social Justice woke Warriors leftists Feminist Democrats paid by China to destroy the Western World ! So time is ticking and Marvel and DC’s fan base are shrinking thanks to manga, Chinese and Korean comics ! Ha ! Ha ! Ha !
@Kalckie
@Kalckie 4 жыл бұрын
The comic-book industry needs a Gordon Ramsey...
@prunt23
@prunt23 4 жыл бұрын
@@disneytakeshugedix7463 so do you just spam the same comment everywhere?
@davidmauro8947
@davidmauro8947 4 жыл бұрын
@@disneytakeshugedix7463 *Sigh*
@christophermatthews555
@christophermatthews555 4 жыл бұрын
Heather's milkshake doesn't bring the boys to the comic shop.
@EamonThePhilogynistWalford
@EamonThePhilogynistWalford 4 жыл бұрын
That's because it's made from soy milk, of course. ;-)
@EamonThePhilogynistWalford
@EamonThePhilogynistWalford 4 жыл бұрын
@TookALevelInBadass I'll take your word for it, but I still wouldn't be inclined to have it. ;-)
@jeffreyskoritowski4114
@jeffreyskoritowski4114 4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps not, but it would bring guys to the "Back Pages".
@hslmedia2663
@hslmedia2663 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't even find her tweets that bad... Ive seen far worse, the context is missing from half them and feels that the screenshots are kinda like a witch hunt. I was hoping for more drama and feel a little let down now.
@lupinacciproductions8189
@lupinacciproductions8189 4 жыл бұрын
@TookALevelInBadass Soy is awful...Almond is where its at. Plus Soy Milk is plant based estrogen which does things to males and females.
@TheShoguneagle
@TheShoguneagle 4 жыл бұрын
All you need to know about Heather Antos is that she intentionally-ironically wore a unicorn costume while introducing herself as the senior editor at Valiant Comics. No one should ever take her, or anyone associated with her, seriously.
@MariaIsabellaZNN
@MariaIsabellaZNN 4 жыл бұрын
Missing context here, is there even a reason why she wore this or is she just, uhm how do you put it, "a little unsound mentally" ..
@RanMouri82
@RanMouri82 4 жыл бұрын
@@MariaIsabellaZNN She said it was supposed to represent her "Hero of the Week", X-O Manowar. Somehow.
@Necron-ez2cc
@Necron-ez2cc 4 жыл бұрын
In that unicorn getup, she looks like every other e-thot on TicTok. Come to think of it, she sounds like every e-thot on Twitch.
@bf945
@bf945 4 жыл бұрын
Or, as The Critical Drinker would say, "Nah, it'll be fine".
@SDguy3030
@SDguy3030 4 жыл бұрын
A man of culture, i see.
@billycranston5481
@billycranston5481 4 жыл бұрын
It’ll be fine now go away.
@goufr3540
@goufr3540 4 жыл бұрын
"The interview happened at the local pub, during the late night after ordering several fried food and enough booze to topple of horse. Woke up in my own vomit and the papers were signed and she got the job at Image. Sounds about right for comics now, what could possibly go wrong!?!" - The Critical Drinker (probably) GO AWAY NOW.
@RanMouri82
@RanMouri82 4 жыл бұрын
I've been saying that out loud while reading some of these industry quotes.
@the_illuminati_official6654
@the_illuminati_official6654 3 жыл бұрын
@Stripey Arse "fck off, comic!"
@SilverSpectre90
@SilverSpectre90 4 жыл бұрын
I'm calling it The big comic book industries will die this year And the Indie comics made with heart, spirit and the sole purpose to entertain and not lecture people with identity politics will rise to take their place.
@kwonj126
@kwonj126 4 жыл бұрын
Bring back old school vertigo...
@SilverSpectre90
@SilverSpectre90 4 жыл бұрын
@@kwonj126 remove Zoe Quinn first
@rabbitcharly9445
@rabbitcharly9445 4 жыл бұрын
@@SilverSpectre90 the best stories, ideas and art work will rise to the top.
@camraid9
@camraid9 4 жыл бұрын
Touche
@kin2naruto
@kin2naruto 4 жыл бұрын
@@madcow4863 Great story - good ending. As far as I'm concerned... nothing after that one issue exists.
@tbb4023
@tbb4023 4 жыл бұрын
Why do all of the comics companies have KIDS as senior editors? Kids that never grew up on comics and do not love them? How was this supposed to end well?
@flamestoyershadowkill6400
@flamestoyershadowkill6400 4 жыл бұрын
The Comics Company simply fails harder than the virtual boy
@averagedusty
@averagedusty 4 жыл бұрын
Mcfarlane was right, I have gotten out of the habit of buying weekly and I'm seeing it positively in my bank account. Don't think I'm going back after this.
@TSPH1992
@TSPH1992 4 жыл бұрын
I only buy back issues, Alterna and support a few Indiegogos. Buying weekly would drain my bank account
@albertoromero5075
@albertoromero5075 4 жыл бұрын
I want it to be spring and in good weather!!!!!!
@OmarCordy
@OmarCordy 4 жыл бұрын
Read something besides superheroes? There's tons of other options. I get tired of superheroes too, I just mix it up.
@TSPH1992
@TSPH1992 4 жыл бұрын
@@OmarCordy aye
@jasonschumacher1412
@jasonschumacher1412 4 жыл бұрын
@Genaki Ningen just started playing some ps2 games that I haven't played in years and its great to see that a struggling industry that was just starting to gain traction knew to put out good content so that it will increase incentive to buy more, sadly the comic book industry and game industry lost that belief.
@elguinolo7358
@elguinolo7358 4 жыл бұрын
Marvel has already commited suicide anyway, so who cares what happens to the corpse ?
@lilmovieperp3599
@lilmovieperp3599 4 жыл бұрын
The thing this community has been lying to itself. Plus grifters need the attention so I expect marvel and comics will keep going and grifters will keep saying it’s dying for a long long time.
@Fridaey13txhOktober
@Fridaey13txhOktober 4 жыл бұрын
**Sound of furries dragging the corpse to a van**
@lilmovieperp3599
@lilmovieperp3599 4 жыл бұрын
@WTFViewer you have to think that so reality doesn't hit you hard. totally understand.
@lilmovieperp3599
@lilmovieperp3599 4 жыл бұрын
@WTFViewer guess you never heard of a thing called streaming...lol
@lilmovieperp3599
@lilmovieperp3599 4 жыл бұрын
WTFViewer I’m only a troll cause I’m not telling you what you want to hear. Lol wait until you meet the great troll named Reality.
@athenassigil5820
@athenassigil5820 4 жыл бұрын
What can I say?...the worst senior editor....ever.
@exexpat11
@exexpat11 4 жыл бұрын
Ev'ar!
@harleyray5183
@harleyray5183 4 жыл бұрын
Senior ? More like jr. high.
@shybard
@shybard 4 жыл бұрын
These people need to learn to replace the word "fans" with "paying customers." Once they get in the habit of doing that, maybe they'll learn to speak a bit more diplomatically. Or they can go out of business. Looks like maybe that choice has already been made for them.
@Mozoleum27
@Mozoleum27 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly these people have been sinking comics and comic shops for years. I can't but help but ask why do these people who hate us get these jobs still. They're not friendly or do any good at their jobs, but soon they won't have them anymore.
@shin_roku5696
@shin_roku5696 4 жыл бұрын
Nice profile pic
@albertoromero5075
@albertoromero5075 4 жыл бұрын
you are going to learn to replace the word "stop now of damn cringe joke" if this pandemic dies soon!!!!!
@michaelevans6669
@michaelevans6669 4 жыл бұрын
Narcissistic people, combined with Dunning-Kruger Syndrome, have destroyed several time-honored franchises.😞😞😞
@cokeglas
@cokeglas 4 жыл бұрын
I worked at a comic store for 13 years in another life. When I left I had debt, moved somewhere that didn't have comic stores and focused on getting my financials back in shape. Comics and collectibles were the first thing I dropped and never went back to it. This was from a time before comics went bad. Combine the lockdown with all the job losses and it's likely a lot of people will have to do what I did and concentrate on more important things. It's just mind-blowing why all these mentally ill people were allowed to take the reins of the industry and use it for their own social and political grandstanding instead of maintaining the tradition of creativity and great storytelling. At least that attitude is alive and well in manga.
@StevenSiew2
@StevenSiew2 4 жыл бұрын
cokeglas Dude, you should pick up old style First edition Dungeon and Dragons tabletop RPG as a hobby. Get the PDF file, print it out, buy some dice and you can get hundreds of hours of entertainment for a $40 dollar investment. Much much cheaper than collecting comics and very affordable during a Economic depression. The old d&d modules are on PDF files too, pretty much free, you only have to pay for the printer paper.
@aaronhumphrey2009
@aaronhumphrey2009 4 жыл бұрын
@@StevenSiew2 time to be the hero of your own story- by making up your own stories !
@fireface-sr5ll
@fireface-sr5ll 4 жыл бұрын
When you chip away at the tent poles, the tent topples over, Gail. You happy now?
@handlebarfox2366
@handlebarfox2366 4 жыл бұрын
1. Identify your core demographic 2. Decide you can drive them away _because they are your core_ 3. Chapter 11
@seanvolk4202
@seanvolk4202 4 жыл бұрын
SJW: lets target comic book nerds to show how tough we are! COMIC BOOK NERDS: sigh, I thought I left this behind at highschool graduation
@awesomeatronik
@awesomeatronik 4 жыл бұрын
@L Franco TRUTH
@TSPH1992
@TSPH1992 4 жыл бұрын
@L Franco Can't argue with facts
@winstonw2020
@winstonw2020 4 жыл бұрын
The re-boot of everything is coming.... People like Antos will be gone....
@3ggh3ad
@3ggh3ad 4 жыл бұрын
problem is these people tend to fail upwards.
@Spacefrisian
@Spacefrisian 4 жыл бұрын
The only reboot i would appreciate.
@marcosvarsano6262
@marcosvarsano6262 4 жыл бұрын
But will there even be a comics industry by that time?
@RanMouri82
@RanMouri82 4 жыл бұрын
I certainly hope so. The only way comics as a medium will survive is if those who finance their production take this as a wake up call and properly appeal to their customers.
@ironeagle9285
@ironeagle9285 4 жыл бұрын
She's giving a business pitch dressed in a unicorn outfit. No, pajamas. I don't know what else to say, beyond I can neither take her, nor Valiant seriously. Now if that was aimed at kids, she's giving a business pitch. "YAWN" You just lost the young audience. Where's the enthusiasm and excitement? No passion for the product = no customers!
@ahmataevo
@ahmataevo 4 жыл бұрын
I thought she was just a dick head.
@MirandaSinistra
@MirandaSinistra 4 жыл бұрын
I have a kid, if I showed him this her video he'd laugh his ass off at her.
@disneytakeshugedix7463
@disneytakeshugedix7463 4 жыл бұрын
Most Western countries are now watching Kdrama and Kreality show with English subs because American, British, Australian, etc TV shows and movies are so bad filled with propaganda from Communist Maoist Morons oops Social Justice woke Warriors leftists Feminist Democrats paid by China to destroy the Western World ! So time is ticking and Marvel and DC’s fan base are shrinking thanks to manga, Chinese and Korean comics ! Ha ! Ha ! Ha !
@blewidescorpio
@blewidescorpio 4 жыл бұрын
She was probably on her way to a rave and just tried to work that unicorn shit into the video. Her pupils were massive. That’s just my perspective
@miketeeveedub5779
@miketeeveedub5779 4 жыл бұрын
Someone at Valiant had their beer googles on when they hired Heather Anti-Os.
@ahmataevo
@ahmataevo 4 жыл бұрын
more like scopalamine goggles.
@hansellius
@hansellius 4 жыл бұрын
Is it only me that wondered if she got her job because of either family connections, or thirty minutes spent on a black leather sofa?
@matthewcb1970
@matthewcb1970 4 жыл бұрын
They might have been wearing Beer Goggles, but I'll bet they weren't wearing trousers...
@TSPH1992
@TSPH1992 4 жыл бұрын
@@matthewcb1970 nor belts
@turdotanker5599
@turdotanker5599 4 жыл бұрын
HOW DOES A LITTLE GIRL LIKE HEATHER ANTOS, HAVE A JOB THAT REQUIRES THE EXPERIENCE OF AN OLDER PERSON????
@onion_wind
@onion_wind 4 жыл бұрын
Because she's female?
@DeepenedDelusion
@DeepenedDelusion 4 жыл бұрын
@@onion_wind A female with no gag reflex, I bet.
@ursidae8619
@ursidae8619 4 жыл бұрын
She probably fucked her way there.
@bf945
@bf945 4 жыл бұрын
"Diversity" and failing upwards.
@mustavogaia2655
@mustavogaia2655 4 жыл бұрын
maybe that is the point: can comics really pay regular wages for competent people? I mean aside "top talent", how competitive are the wages on the industry.
@shotsavereboundscore
@shotsavereboundscore 4 жыл бұрын
I see so few kids that care about comics. A buddy of mine has a young daughter who watches mcu movies over and over...she wouldn't take money from me to read a comic. The industry should just cater to its older audience and we will ride off in to the sunset together. We have the nostalgia of spinner racks...and comics everywhere....and consuming entertainment on a monthly basis. There arent enough young people to fill the void left by us 35 and up. It sucks...but I feel like it's the truth.
@aaronhumphrey2009
@aaronhumphrey2009 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, the " younger customers" have shifted thier focus to movies, and many lack the attention span necessary to read comics/ graphic novels. It's not that they can't read, they just don't want to expend the mental effort to do so .
@shotsavereboundscore
@shotsavereboundscore 4 жыл бұрын
@@aaronhumphrey2009 exactly
@Xardion55
@Xardion55 4 жыл бұрын
...A sober thought, but likely a true one as well. But who knows? Perhaps there will be survivors...
@cgirl111
@cgirl111 4 жыл бұрын
The day books become digital is the last day I'll ever have to pay for them. I'm pretty sure I'm not alone. I don't understand how management can't see this.
@kentjensen4504
@kentjensen4504 4 жыл бұрын
Nerdrotic, you're an actual journalist. Great work.
@Napalm6b
@Napalm6b 4 жыл бұрын
Why is Heather Antos an editor at Valiant?! Their biggest books are all hard boiled action oriented books for boys. If she wants to work on more feminine books that's fine there is a market for that. She could work with other comic writers and artists to create that world. It would be great. Leave Bloodshot and X - O Manowar alone!
@Justin_Anvil
@Justin_Anvil 4 жыл бұрын
Outlaw Josey Wales. Nice touch, one of my favorite movies.
@davidtong2776
@davidtong2776 4 жыл бұрын
The sad truth is that the Comic book Producers sold out the Buyers in exchange for "woke" movie tickets. Believing that they had out grown the Base, and that they didn't need the middle men who sold their product, and built their buyer base. John Carter of Mars, was great but no one had read it in a generation so the movie hit without a base to run to see their shows, and the movie failed. Movies that fail, mean no more such movies.
@dj1NM3
@dj1NM3 4 жыл бұрын
The John Carter fiasco was a bit frustrating: being one of the very first sci-fi properties to exist, yet one of the very last to be made into a movie and so it appeared a bit derivitive of much later IP that was very successful. That advertising for the moive was done at night, with black velvet semaphore flags didn't help either...
@davidtong2776
@davidtong2776 4 жыл бұрын
@@dj1NM3 Back in the sixties a lot of the old stuff got reprinted, and I read John Carter, Doc Savage, The shadow, Great Stuff.
@nofrackingzone2.057
@nofrackingzone2.057 4 жыл бұрын
The entire point is to eliminate the comic shops and to go on to an all online environment. Don’t kid yourself. Marvel & DC make money from the movies. The comic shops are incidental.
@chrismead1464
@chrismead1464 4 жыл бұрын
I'm hoping the comics fans refuse to buy them.
@tilly704
@tilly704 4 жыл бұрын
marvel making money with movies ends with ne next stage... dc... well... lets sea ( pun intended).
@AvengerII
@AvengerII 4 жыл бұрын
"to go on to an all online environment" That make NO SENSE when you do the research. Online purchases of ANYTHING -- music, movies, ebooks-- make NOWHERE NEAR as much as physical purposes. The music industry is mostly online purchases (in the West) at this point and it's a FRACTION as big as it was even in the 1990s and early 2000s. They made at least 5 times as much on records (CDs, tapes, and vinyl back in the day) as they are now. That industry is a shell of what it was when it was the major entertainment sector. The thing about digital posting is that no anti-piracy protocol works. They've all been cracked. The one thing posting things online does is enable the pirates to work that much faster at spreading literally millions of copies of anything online.
@nofrackingzone2.057
@nofrackingzone2.057 4 жыл бұрын
AvengerII Concur your assessment.
@TimothyONeill_84.
@TimothyONeill_84. 4 жыл бұрын
Nofrackingzone 2.0 Also, even though their movies were good, they weren’t much to write home about either, printed material, when written well, non-woke and virtue singling BS, is still the best when it is in your hands.
@carlfromtheoc1788
@carlfromtheoc1788 4 жыл бұрын
1. Sounds like these various editors and "comics experts" have never been to a big -con, places where most of the floor space is given over to folks who have little or nothing to do with the major and semi-major comic book companies. Even SDCC, as big as it is only has a relatively small total exhibit hall area devoted to Marvel, DC, Dark Horse, Image, etc. and almost no actual comic book sellers. There is quite a bit of space devoted to video games, independent artists and writers, books, and so forth. 2. I hope all these editors and so called "experts" know how to code. 3. A lot of folks have forgotten a basic lesson, "It's not about what you like it's about what the customer likes."
@DooDooSpaghetti
@DooDooSpaghetti 4 жыл бұрын
i am glad that artists who self publish their own books are not affected.
@maggoli67
@maggoli67 4 жыл бұрын
She back from destroying wrestling or nascar or whateversies ALREADY?
@johnzeller1338
@johnzeller1338 4 жыл бұрын
Started getting my comics From Alterna Comics. Marvel and DC 👎
@BELLA-mf6hb
@BELLA-mf6hb 4 жыл бұрын
I'm creating my own. Better than DC and Marvel now. 😢
@rengarcia5189
@rengarcia5189 4 жыл бұрын
I asked the lovely Heather Antos a question, and she blocked me without a word. Can't have that Safe Space violated. Can't have that bubble of denial burst, because, what happens after that? The bubble bursts and all you have is a total hack wobbling about in a unicorn onesie wondering how she's going to go to the bathroom. I'm so glad I chose to not to get into comics, because just look at the stimulating company.
@Skybaby79
@Skybaby79 4 жыл бұрын
14:00 Leave it to Bendis to say something that stupid. The guy ruined a 2 year high for character that itterally has an image for "hope" on his chest, but thinks he's right about this? Someone take Bendis' keys, he's drunk.
@Phier554
@Phier554 4 жыл бұрын
How did we let such people into these places? We are too nice to these types, and once you let them in, they only hire their own and get rid of those who disagree. If we can get them out, we need to remember this.
@darkshadow139
@darkshadow139 4 жыл бұрын
How does someone like Heather who looks like she is barely out of diapers become senior editor of a comic publisher. I used to own a comic shop years ago, and grew up on comics. I'm sure I could do a better job than her as editor, she doesn't have enough life experience to fill my pinky finger. I do remember though that after the comic crash in the 90's because of death of superman, variant covers for everything, and speculator's that many of the shops where I lived survived because the diversified into other collectables other than comics, and did more online business, they did not depend on foot traffic in store or comics alone to pay their bills. Just a thought for the retailers out there struggling right now.
@popstarprincess123
@popstarprincess123 4 жыл бұрын
Oh so she does sound as stuck up as her tweets I’m glad her voice fits her so well
@theduxabides9274
@theduxabides9274 4 жыл бұрын
As St. Peter put it, "Always give good reason for the hope that you have;" The comicbook pros cannot...
@boogieboo5085
@boogieboo5085 4 жыл бұрын
I stopped caring about comics when they stopped caring about the fans. Too many activists have replaced the industry legends that made comics that 20-40 minute escapism from our day to day. At least Stan Lee passed before he had to watch his life's work die a slow and miserable death at the hands of blue-haired, blue checkmarked, proper pronouned, progressive, comic book activists that think thier opinion is canon and anyone who disagrees is a Naazi istaphobe.
@garethpeck6040
@garethpeck6040 4 жыл бұрын
His jewish inheritors are taking such a short time to destroy everything he so carefully built up.
@LoreleiCatherine
@LoreleiCatherine 4 жыл бұрын
You can’t see it but I’m giving this comment a standing ovation! 😂😂
@aaronhumphrey2009
@aaronhumphrey2009 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, the Blue haired SJW crowd lacks understanding of the comics material, functional business models, and what the fans want. Comic book store owners are now left out in the cold..
@handlebarfox2366
@handlebarfox2366 4 жыл бұрын
"...and the guy who bought my store." Kudoes for not using the word "sucker"
@Hidden_Lizard
@Hidden_Lizard 4 жыл бұрын
Whenever a company has their higher-ups appearing on camera in a unicorn hoodie jumpsuit....its time for that company to die.
@namelessjedi2242
@namelessjedi2242 4 жыл бұрын
She meant America Chavez has the worst fans.
@fishbonewillie2197
@fishbonewillie2197 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine being so woke that you write yourself out of a job
@markmarderosian4025
@markmarderosian4025 4 жыл бұрын
I admit I haven't been paying attention to the new wave of editors and creators. Was this really an editor of the medium? The editors I grew up with during my reading days were oftentimes younger than this... yet they acted more adult in fulfilling their responsibilities to the publishers and, most importantly, the fans.
@kentlindal5422
@kentlindal5422 4 жыл бұрын
She used to work for marvel. The stuff that passed her "Editing" was awful. She has no standards, which thinking on it is probably how she got the job in the first place.
@markmarderosian4025
@markmarderosian4025 4 жыл бұрын
@@kentlindal5422 Thanks. I honestly having been keeping up. I didn't know that.
@cesariojpn
@cesariojpn 4 жыл бұрын
Corona-Chan helping for good. Bye Antos.
@MrNelg19
@MrNelg19 4 жыл бұрын
"Hope is not a Strategy." My dad always would say, _"You know what hoppen' did, don'cha? Stuck a feather in the ground and was hoppen' he'd grow chicken."_
@kentlindal5422
@kentlindal5422 4 жыл бұрын
"Hopin' it was a fart but it was a shit"
@richardrahl2685
@richardrahl2685 4 жыл бұрын
This is the first time I've come across your channel. Great content. I'm subbed! 👍
@KonigGustavAdolph
@KonigGustavAdolph 4 жыл бұрын
Damn @Nerdrotic, cannot give enough thumbs up for using The Outlaw Josey Wales.
@Swanjeff12
@Swanjeff12 4 жыл бұрын
To quote thanos Reality is often disappointing
@JohnnyStroud
@JohnnyStroud 4 жыл бұрын
AWESOME! This is the BEST explanation, EVER, on what happened to the comic book industry, thanks.
@RatedB1
@RatedB1 4 жыл бұрын
The Attitude of Ingratitude~ that's catchy
@turdotanker5599
@turdotanker5599 4 жыл бұрын
NINJA TURLES IN THE 80'S, WAS THE LAST CREATION WITH LONGEVITY; SINCE THAT TIME, CREATIVES HAVE BEEN FARMED-OUT TO EXTINCTION...
@tremerefury
@tremerefury 4 жыл бұрын
Spawn, Witchblade and the Darkness beg to differ....
@turdotanker5599
@turdotanker5599 4 жыл бұрын
@@tremerefury THEY ARE NOT MAJOR AND LACK THE LONGEVITY OF THE TURTLES...SPAWN ONLY GOT ONE MOVIE, SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE!!!
@awesomeatronik
@awesomeatronik 4 жыл бұрын
@@tremerefury no way are those guys even close to the legacy TMNT has. 5 tv shows 6 movies numerous toy lines and bootleg merchandise with multiple different comic series. Yes the 90s comics are still being printed but at nowhere near the demand for the turtles.
@tremerefury
@tremerefury 4 жыл бұрын
Spawn only got one movie because Todd McFarlane hasn't gotten any offers that he felt did the character justice. He eventually got so tired of Hollywood that he eventually said screw it and decided to do it himself. He's currently working on a Spawn movie with Jamie Foxx and Jeremy Renner. Spawn has also had an Animated Show, a ridiculously hard to find animated movie (I've been trying to get my hands on it for about a decade), multiple video game appearances and a mind numbing amount of toys.
@turdotanker5599
@turdotanker5599 4 жыл бұрын
@@tremerefury I HOPE THE NEW MOVIE IS NOT WOKE!!! IF DISNEY IS DOING IT, THEY WILL DESTROY HEAVEN, HELL AND ALL ETERNITY... REGARDLESS OF WHAT MALEBOGIA HAS TO SAY ABOUT IT!!! THE WOKENESS OF DISNEY IS THE TOUCH OF DEATH...
@brooklyngal6334
@brooklyngal6334 4 жыл бұрын
Who let that candy girl become a senior comic publishing company editor?
@kentlindal5422
@kentlindal5422 4 жыл бұрын
A thirsty neckbeard.
@LordZordid
@LordZordid 4 жыл бұрын
That "nothing to see here" gag was a great insert. Well done.
@TDHurley
@TDHurley 4 жыл бұрын
When good looks is all you needed to reach the highest heights of journalism.
@MyMagnificentOctopus
@MyMagnificentOctopus 4 жыл бұрын
I know I am getting older and a lot of professionals look young to me, but she looks way too young for the "senior editor" title, especially knowing she has jumped ship before from another editing position.
@DooDooSpaghetti
@DooDooSpaghetti 4 жыл бұрын
this is what you get when diamond has the monopoly on comic book distribution. can you name me 3 backup distributors?
@exexpat11
@exexpat11 4 жыл бұрын
Absolute Madness! Very Tragic! (Cudos on including the Josie Wales clips... one of my favorite quotes)
@kierankelleher007
@kierankelleher007 4 жыл бұрын
This is a terrific video. Really good synopsis of the situation. OMG with editors like Heather Antos the creative side is in serious trouble. To be honest as I grew older I switched more and more to digital comics (only so much storage space right?) - I don't feel bad about that but I have friends who continue to collect print - which for sure is now an afterthought and consequently puts the comic store owners in serious trouble. This is tough to hear for the community. Hopefully we see a turnaround. In the meantime great reporting on the situation - you totally deserve to grow as a channel when we consider what the access media feeds us. Top job.
@marcolobo227
@marcolobo227 4 жыл бұрын
Growing up reading comics i never cared what the heroes looked like, just that they were heroic. Especially Peter Parker. Who to me was just a kid like me but, "blessed" with extraordinary powers and learning to deal with life and bs. Where did all these weirdos come from that have destroyed the comic book industry?
@lilmovieperp3599
@lilmovieperp3599 4 жыл бұрын
Marco Lobo a while back some dude wrote “why can’t Spider-Man be black” which set the internet ablaze for like week. Writer got death threats, doxxed, the whole thing. So one day some other dude read the article and was like “yea why can’t Spider-Man be black?” And read all the racist reasons why he couldn’t. He was like “nah, dumb reasons” and created Miles Morales. That in turn, created Into the SpiderVerse, the best Spider-Man movie to date.
@marcolobo227
@marcolobo227 4 жыл бұрын
@@lilmovieperp3599 he read all the racist reasons and created his own character. which is awesome, i think most people get weird when its a character like peter parker and people try to change his race, sexual orientation, etc. I myself love Miles Morales, but i wouldn't vibe with Peter Parker having a different origin. All for people creating their own characters tho
@lilmovieperp3599
@lilmovieperp3599 4 жыл бұрын
@@marcolobo227 why?
@eljay5009
@eljay5009 4 жыл бұрын
"Comic professionals aren't customer service representatives". You don't have to be in a customer facing role to treat customers with respect (or at the very least, not insult them). Every employee of a company is an ambassador for that company and can damage the reputation of the company if they treat people outside the company badly (especially customers). This tweet smacks of entitlement and condescension - and is ironically unprofessional.
@thecasualoblivion
@thecasualoblivion 4 жыл бұрын
My local store switched its focus to gaming years ago. Card games, board games, miniatures wargames, etc. They still sell comics but it’s not their focus anymore. They had more shelf space for Manga than new comic books last time I was there, and their old comics section usually was covered by a big sheet of plywood so the employees could play M:tG or Warhammer On top of it while still keeping an eye on the front of the store. I imagine they could dump comics altogether if they needed to.
@davidmcmahon4633
@davidmcmahon4633 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, gave up on comics long ago. DC with New 52, Marvel with Civil Wars. And I started reading in 1968. Only comics I read now are manga and collected comic strips from the 1930s and 1940s. So sad to see what has happened and continues to happen. signed, Old WASP man.
@RGC-gn2nm
@RGC-gn2nm 4 жыл бұрын
mmmm,,, actually she meant the entire western hemisphere....
@aidena8381
@aidena8381 4 жыл бұрын
I don't get why people like that are just so mean in general. I guess twitter is just a hate chamber.
@michaelpayton9164
@michaelpayton9164 4 жыл бұрын
Valiant stopped being worthwhile after shooter was booted. Milkshake Chick doesn't help change the opinion.
@Wolfshifter
@Wolfshifter 4 жыл бұрын
Many told them this would happen for years and years. They chose to insult and block paying customers instead. It’s common sense.
@jvstice56
@jvstice56 4 жыл бұрын
Short answer: The comic industry won't survive much longer. Long answer: As long as "professionals" like her, like Dana Schwartz (not exactly in the industry, but represents Marvel), and others keep bashing the paying customers, the paying customers will speak with their wallets. We always have, and that will continue well into the era beyond [Redacted Name]. I'll weep for the years where comics were great, but I'll laugh with open loudness should the Big Two, Valiant, and any other company that openly attacks their paying customers fall are killed off by their corporate overlords because of terrible sales numbers. Still sucks for comic shop owners and I hope the ones that are still around can recover.
@backhandthings4942
@backhandthings4942 4 жыл бұрын
does she have a onlyfans?
@DarthWillSmith
@DarthWillSmith 4 жыл бұрын
not yet
@endless3cho
@endless3cho 4 жыл бұрын
Give it time.
@fearfulharmony94
@fearfulharmony94 4 жыл бұрын
The comic book industry has been poison for a decade if it truly wanted to be saved and would have done it 5 years ago
@matthewlumsden3723
@matthewlumsden3723 4 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work mate
@walvegasgunsandoutdoors
@walvegasgunsandoutdoors 4 жыл бұрын
Shes cute atleast lol
@matejsebalj7469
@matejsebalj7469 4 жыл бұрын
SIMP
@walvegasgunsandoutdoors
@walvegasgunsandoutdoors 4 жыл бұрын
@@matejsebalj7469 you got me. No shes seriously useless though
@TheMaleRei
@TheMaleRei 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely better seen than heard.
@endless3cho
@endless3cho 4 жыл бұрын
Simp which was used a long time ago is gonna lose all usefulness just as quick when it's used as an umbrella-term.
@ironeagle9285
@ironeagle9285 4 жыл бұрын
She's a communist. In other words, insane.
@nicholasdickens2801
@nicholasdickens2801 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t engage with these people. As Mark Twain said; “Never argue with an idiot, they’ll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” Another great chestnut from him: “No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot.” This is nothing like that date in September 2001. This is a global ‘you-know-what’ that won’t change overnight if ever.
@pigtailsboy
@pigtailsboy 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to stop by and pick up what's going on. Maybe I should be finishing my collections right now but that's an iffy prospect when I don't know what's coming and my enthusiasm is scraping for everything I wish I could accomplish. It's a shame to hear all this.
@SpecialAgentBillMaxwell
@SpecialAgentBillMaxwell 4 жыл бұрын
I used to spend about $150 a month on comics. New Vertigo killed that for me. It showed me what these companies, creators, and owners truly were. Just a disgusting bunch of activists with questionable talent. Since that day, I've saved over $3000. Now the industry is just a stinking corpse. The creators killed comics. Coronavirus is more like the undertaker. I feel sorry for the shops, but hopefully they can transition to MTG, board games, manga, anime, etc. (And manga has nothing to do with American comics. These companies need to quit looking to its success as if its their own.)
@seanbaugh3239
@seanbaugh3239 4 жыл бұрын
Well, there is a shortage of toilet paper 🤔 *"NUFF SAID"*
@leftcoaster67
@leftcoaster67 4 жыл бұрын
I got out of comic books in the late 80's because I saw the direction comics were going. It was all collectors mania. Just like Baseball Cards, it wasn't sustainable. Then the bubble burst, and it's been limping forth ever since. The sad thing is there is some very talented individuals out there (Writers and artists). But they want to go for the easy money. And they try to create artificial events and reboots, etc. to attract readers. TV and movies are trying the same. Instead of stand alone movies and tv shows. Everything has to have some underlying story line. Ok once in a while, but not ok long term. We're in an era where computers and art have no limits. But the creativity and entertainment, and good stories are all gone. It's just profit, profit, profit. Even music is losing its soul. It's sad to see.
@dasKimster
@dasKimster 4 жыл бұрын
Not commenting about the subject matter, but I want to thank you for being brave and open with your "journey". It has inspired me to continue my "journey", if you know what I mean.
@andnowawordfromoursponsors4439
@andnowawordfromoursponsors4439 4 жыл бұрын
I’m not the biggest comic book fan, more a movie buff, I found nerdrotic through the critical drinker, not personally of course, but I now I always watch nerdrotic as well as heelsvsbabyface on the declining comic book industry and I feel so sorry for longtime comic book fans, comic book shop owners and employees as well as talented writers and artists who are being pushed to one side for these people who claim to love what they do but then insult their main demo-graph. I do feel one day things may return to normal in every form of the arts and entertainment industry but sadly I don’t believe those who are bringing it to near ruin or complete ruin will ever be held accountable
@manthestars1
@manthestars1 4 жыл бұрын
keep up the good work Nerdrotic!!!!
@tarkajedi3331
@tarkajedi3331 4 жыл бұрын
Your videos keep me sane at the moment mate!!!! Cheers from Australia!!!!! I am talking comics with my neice on Zoom at the moment and not once have I mentioned anything modern... What would you recommend for her Gary? She is an insane Expanse fan and loves Spiderman and Ironman!!!!! I keep suggesting classics from my youth and she wants something modern!!!!
@NitroModelsAndComics
@NitroModelsAndComics 4 жыл бұрын
If there is never another superhero or any other comic printed ever there will be a wellspring of movie material for 300 years.
@SeaWarriorSon
@SeaWarriorSon 4 жыл бұрын
the nicest thing I could possibly say about Heather Antos is as follows: as the comic industry implodes (largely the result of people like... Heather Antos), I hope that she has the opportunity to find gainful employment and actually work for a living.
@Azsouth
@Azsouth 4 жыл бұрын
that guy who asked the question bringing Jesus into it shouldn't be allowed near a computer ever again.
@waz207
@waz207 4 жыл бұрын
I grew up reading my dads silver age (and later era Golden age) comics, and grew up with comics as part of my life. Sadly as I aged, comics became less a staple in my life (but would still be purchased/read whenever I found an interesting one) Now in my 40s, seeing that the local stores, which I infrequently frequent, are all about to disappear, without the juggernauts that make these formerly great reads, helping in the slightest...makes me glad I drifted away from what was such an important part of my life. I guess I will go re-read some older comics I have here at home and reminisce about the “better than this days”
@jormungar_worm3496
@jormungar_worm3496 4 жыл бұрын
Chip away at the tent poles the tent falls down, oh hey lets look how the mainstreams doing... uh oh...
@theboulder027
@theboulder027 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly the comics industry has needed to completely overhaul their business model for a long time now. Going digital for monthly issues and focusing on printing trades and hardcovers would be a step in the right direction, but I dont know how that would effect the brick and mortar stores. And something really needs to be done about diamond, theyve got the publishers and stores alike in a stranglehold.
@tuddrussell
@tuddrussell 4 жыл бұрын
I have to say that before the pandemic, my local store said that after early March books came in he was not going to order new comics, only sell old books. My orders were always one off from Image, or short series books with a few on going series in there. When he said that, it was disappointing that would not be able to get the new books I wanted but I said what a lot of people probably are. It was fun, I can always get the trades later and didn't seek out to get the new books I was actually looking forward to.
@jasongrundy1717
@jasongrundy1717 4 жыл бұрын
Almost no comic book reader follows these people, their attacks on the fans mean nothing. The problem is comic book store are stocking their shelves with garbage. It's almost an identical product as 80 years ago, but quality is down.
@Darthreloy
@Darthreloy 4 жыл бұрын
Comic shops are destroyed for many reasons but one is that comics are not collectable any more. You can buy a new comic #1-30 and wait 25 years, they will not have any value at all. Not 1 cent more than when you bought them 25 years earlier and the exact same comics will still be for sale for 1.50$ brand new. Comics used to be collectable and that is gone.
@mosafaye7176
@mosafaye7176 4 жыл бұрын
😆. Many here wouldn't understand why this is sooooo goooood!!!
@thecaptainsarse
@thecaptainsarse 4 жыл бұрын
Gary and I are the same age. I love the pop culture cut scenes.
@BERSERK263
@BERSERK263 4 жыл бұрын
People like her are a huge reason why I don't buy Comic books anymore.
@DeusNyx
@DeusNyx 4 жыл бұрын
What I've been personally doing during this time, is completing my collection like juggernaut, knightquest, knightfall....you know, when comics were great, not snowflakes.
@asdf51501
@asdf51501 4 жыл бұрын
It sounds more like complete ineptitude coupled with entitlement on the part of Marvel than a deliberate agenda to destroy the comic industry. I could of course be wrong.
@hamonryechinaski180
@hamonryechinaski180 4 жыл бұрын
Outlaw Josey Whales. *Best western ever* The Chief, his rock of candy, endeavour to persevere... Ma daddy sewed me this shirt.... we showed 'em didnt we Josey? *sings*... look away, look away dixie land etc etc. Epic.
@rc5989
@rc5989 4 жыл бұрын
The unicorn onezy. Wow. Just wow. So every title in Valiant has to pass the unicorn onezy smell test? I wonder what passes for professionalism in that office?
@somerandomoldguy4940
@somerandomoldguy4940 4 жыл бұрын
Comic book professionals..... you're being kind Gary.
@TheGr1IsHere
@TheGr1IsHere 4 жыл бұрын
I used to buy all the x comics for years, but when i came into money issues, i stopped and even when money fixed itself, i never went back. People will be in finacial straights for some time to come and can easily see them not going back. Add in this new form of agenda story telling and there could be very few buyers left. My buying was in the late 90s and these new style of writing makes me glad i don't collect anymore. I feel bad for many comic shops, especially ones who care about the industry and see whats happening. I moved to where i am in 93, i had access to three comic shops, one i could walk too and now, before this current event, they are gone. This being the death of many more is sad, but not really surprising to those who watched from afar. I wish i had the money to buy/invest in the indegogo comic books, because those seem like the stuff i used to love.
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