Huh. I never noticed that 😮

@@thepersonarider0972 it's just like earth X spiders man

And one of his hands try to do the whole web slinging thing.

@Grant Peralta And Wade Wilson.

Yeah

But it's not cheesy

nah

But it's written well

jordan chase nah

It's kinda like "tragedy" story

It’s not saying anything at all, it’s literally just a death montage. You don’t take anything away from reading this. I don’t know how people say this is a well written story. To each his own I guess.

ᴠᴇɴᴏᴍ ʙʟᴀᴄᴋʀᴏꜱᴇ Just because something is dark and realistic doesn’t mean that it’s well written. Because tell me, thematically, what does this story have going for it other than it being “dark and realistic?” What’s the deeper meaning or message that’s being conveyed to the audience beyond; Oh, Spider-Man and Wolverine wouldn’t exist in the real world because in reality, a radioactive spider would give someone a severe skin disease and the metal alloys of the Adamantium skeleton would rather kill someone than give them superpowers? Anyone can write a story that’s dark and realistic. However, that alone doesn’t make the story well written. Conceptually, I think ruins is pretty interesting. I just wish it had more going for it other than edginess and shock-value.

ᴠᴇɴᴏᴍ ʙʟᴀᴄᴋʀᴏꜱᴇ or one guy waging war on all crime? He’s getting put down immediately.

The point of this is to show us to be hopeful and glad how we have it there is no light without darkness

Okay so first of all this is like some emo kid's hate note to the rest of the world. Just senseless destruction and death poised Australian when actually that concept goes against the whole idea of comics. A place where our ideas come to life, where reality is different. Like another multiverse on it's own away from ours where laws are different and if you're still after our version of realism it is realistic after all our laws might not function normally exist in another. All this basically says is look every comic hater's rant come to life with some tiny facets of our reality's laws. I mean Bruce dying? Please. Remember how the Celestial experimented on earth? That also made certain for normal humans to have some sort of repository gene, basically something about them allowed for an easier evolutionary process or quickening which is why he didn't die now did Peter nor the fantastic four and allowed for mutants(i mean please wolverine has regenerative abilities that allows him to survive almost anything). I mean please. Wake up

Seems like Murphy was an optimist.

Christopher Marlowe lmao

Toxic Masculinity who?

Christopher Marlowe Milo Murphy, it’s a cartoon on Disney

Even Murphy would say that is enough.

Eh. He just needed to find a new herald.

I love how galactus is BY MARS why did he not chow down on the red planet.

It's possible but worse things happen to galactic before eaten by zombie Spider-Man and all the rest of the zombies

Don't like once again for the millionth time on 800 50th Pine Galactus got hit from behind handed to him even if no one killed Galactus

King Byrd. too dusty

TheManCone Yo avengers 6?

That was always my guess too.

Robert Luke Yes so Yes but Tim Burton should direct I think he'd bring just the right amount of gloom to it.

The obvious consequence of your Herald flaking out on you. He may have also tried to feed on a dead world, but would that have poisoned him, or be like gorging on zero calorie food?

RZ the lack of his ship would dictate that he abandoned it because it/he ran out of gas and probably did a hail Mary leap towards a tiny blue marble but was caught by mars gravity. Orbiting mars he probably did a few rotations glimpsing out at earth a glim torment his last sight would be of earth disappearing over the horizon of mars as he shuts his eyes for the last time.

Antman died with Captain America and the Man with the Iron Chest (Iron Man) in the QuinJet.

Ant-Man already died in the comic page.

Loki thought he was a master magician, and died during one of his acts

Eddie brock goes into the space ship that has the symbiote, but it's starving to the point when it came into contact with Eddie it starts eating him from the outside.

US Agent becomes Prof. X's Top Man to carry out federal policy. Without lessons from the real Captain America it gets real ugly, real quick. Assasinates the USSR's Collossus. Hank McCoy is let out of prison to lend his genius to Emma Frost's program. He effectively trades his soul and morality for survival. I'd rather do a punk antidote story in this universe but that'd defeat the point of this universe.

Yeah, A death montage pretty much sums up this entire comic.

"heroes lost and bad guys ruled" Wanted is the series you are looking for, then,

3 words: Old man Logan

There's a few stories like that already. Old Man Logan is pretty much that, but centered in the US from Logan's perspective. I didn't really like Ruins, but it is what it is. If it wasn't a death montage with tid bits of "what if this origin story went wrong", it would be like Zombies, Old Man Logan, etc. Meaning better writing, but focused on some particular perspectives, and more weight on the "how" and "why". This is just morbid violence.

It's not a death montage, it's a universe with no hope, and full of cruelty and disaster, and honestly very realistic takes on what would happen to these people if they were exposed to the type of radiation that they were exposed to in 616

JDubbsIII well In flashpoint the earth is destroyed so idk

krieg the beast earth being destroyed is kinda easy to digest than this, this is an example of the saying that there are worser things than death...

High Street not in marvel where hela has your soul

Facts

But not the dark multiverse

Just Some Guy with a Mustache for the 20eth time ,how.are.you.everywhere.I.go!

Just Some Guy with a Mustache but i saw on the tfs nuzlock

I'll have you know, sir, that I am the original fucking loser and my retardation is genuine!

Just Some Guy with a Mustache there is only one moustached guy on KZfaq and he just watches the same good shit I do

Just Some Guy with a Mustache why are people so triggered that you watch the same videos that they do?

And white eyes

I noticed that first thing I laid eyes on

i was suprised as well that was messed up

Nah this is the work of Mad Jim Jaspers.

Bro, This has seriously messed me up

Lmao

Nice

😮

jason moore Person: joe stop him ! Stop him now Joe Quesada: warren scares we...um...just let him do stuff and put it out of continutiy.

Hmmmmm let make this and marvel zombies ONE THING called marvel gone mad XD

daimon hampton WHY, WHY, WHY didn't you do this sooner?

HULK NOOOOOOOOO! WHAT HAVE YOU DONE

Still Ellis is not as grimdark as Pat Mills or Garth Ennis. Those two really hate superheroes.

Robert LaFlure oof

That's a thing.

Cancerverse already exists, it’s a place where. Captain Marvell (Mar-Vell) removed death from that universe whilst going crazy as he’s dying of cancer - we see this in the thanos imperative series I think

I love the fact this is a thing, and is being called “the cancerverses”

Call it the radiation-verse for some reason

Honestly, having fucking Zombie Ant-Man flying like a godlike creature through space and trying the snacking on your ass is a lovecraftian level of horror.

Marvel zombies it's even funny sometimes Ruins is almost like reality and there's nothing more scarier than the real world

Nah. This is way worse.

Its actually if physics met fiction

Cobra Commander but they have a happy ending in zombies sooo

blade wind I think in this universe if he gained the power to regenerate he'd probably be used for inhumane medical experimentation trying to understand and reproduce the result with him being brushed off by researchers as being completely mad and detatched from reality as a result of the pain from studying him with Deadpool pleading the writer to let him die already or end the story.

Ok dude, this comment is just as messed up as the whole story but honestly I think you're right, thats how it would've turned out, I personally wanted to see how Moon Knight and Man-Thing would've been portrayed

Awesome Austen Same here. There's tons of characters I'm curious about in this universe. MoonKnight I'd expect to be institusionalized due to his split personalities. Man-Thing is a good one I'm trying to think how things would go south for him. 🤔

Just Johnny yea you're right, Man-Thing is pretty difficult to think of how it could be "the worst of the worst" for him considering his situation is already pretty bad, maybe the "man" part would still be inside begging to get put but nobody can here him since he wouldn't be able to speak? Idk

Awesome Austen I could see that happening.

Yep.

Preach man preach

Nice speech

There's a paradox here because you said if is no dark there is no light but if there is no light there is only dark

@@graintrain1284 That's not a paradox, it's the same thing only backwards. And it's also true.

Not really bitten he just shook hands with Peter who passed on his disease.

Spider man can one shot confirmed?

B. Catão Yeah. Stupid.

Astro Boy No. He implied that this a cool concept, but horrible delivery. However, based on a lot of the trash that Marvel has been putting out for comics, you probably aren't far off. They need help.

Lmao.

Astro Boy Swing and a miss

Scott Snyder or Zack Snyder?

why not?

@Elijah Baker I agree

He looks more like he's vibing rather than dead.

*Galactus was not the imposter..*

Dabbing in space dead

Nawl that ghost rider scene made me laugh

bro went to the Astro World

It just feels so damn edgy to me

Maybe deep down inside you’re the 14yr going through a phase, appreciate the art

@@fakeuber8254 It's not really edgy, it's realistic marvel universe, and the purpose of this AU is to show how heroes we wish were real would most likely turn out.

@@fakeuber8254 The premise is simple: "What if everything went wrong in the Marvel universe"? How did you expect that to NOT be edgy?

@@Mars-oe5if The writer thought this was a morbid comedy, realism has nothing to do with it.

Exactly, it's what adds to its charm.

Yeah like some sick twisted version of these campy characters.

Anti Social. Because it’s more realistic. I mean think about: A radioactive spider bites you. One of two things happens, you either die or die.

As much I like it.....it just feels so weird

I don’t care for the grimdark nihilism but I can’t help but find it fascinating...

She used her magic to become 6ix9ine

Scarlet Bitches

Hudson Shaw 💀💀💀💀💀

I agree this whole universe needs to reboot

Devious J for all we know thanos is either dead or something messed up happening to him too. I don’t even want to know what he is like in this universe.

I mean he can go to earth and just die by any means

YES

I think in this universe, Thanos just fucking dies because of how dangerous the infinity gems are

What about The Purple Man as President of the United States? That would have been better...

And change his costume into swim trunks and a floreal shirt with a bear logo on the back, and the shield is replaced with a surfing board.

Xavier's still alive and Pres. at the time. Fisk says X visits them in Texas. He's totally off the deep end. Too bad they all get blown up in the Quinjet.

I don't think Captain America was a part of the Avengers in this story. Given how everything in this story goes. It's likely Steve Rogers either died after Super Soilder experiment (With it going wrong and poisoning his body). Died during one of battles in War World 2 itself. Or would have likely died while him and Bucky where defusing that one bomb plane and and thrown into the Pacific Ocean. Like seriously. Him being alive in Ruins and being apart of The Avengers would make no freaking sense whatsoever.

@@Ceyx000 I think his mutant mind powers gave him severe mental illness

Less "real world logic" and more "murphy's law" logic.

You should listen to batman earth 1, its pretty realistic minus the incredibly disturbing timeline

@@user-unos111 well hulk is an example of that. He likely would have just died. Quicksilver is actually quite realistic though.

@@danielr6302 what would be realistic is that is just a really fast person, but not superhuman speeds.

@@user-unos111 based

You forgot in horrible ways.

That didn't help at all...!

yaoi fan That's a sound theory considering if his powers had always been out of control he'd of probably been killed long ago from all the collateral damage his powers would cause.

I got a better one Charles Xavier Was like the one in the 616 Universe, Taking care of Mutants and doing his best to Teach them. But then.....Everything Fell Apart. The professors had a lot of Difficulties teaching mutants how to control their powers. A bunch of them died. One of the Mutants accidentally gave Magneto a brain hemorrhage and Charles Trying to help Magneto somehow messed up and ‘poisoned’ his personality. And then.. . He came for all of them. He cut them up. He trapped and teased them.

or what if he tried making himself stronger for wanting to take down someone or to control the world but and it worked but it just went beyond his control.

@@therealmr.incredible3179 I have a better one. Why is Gamora!?

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He died due to starvation because there was no silver surfer to help him find planets to eat.

​@@ylussjoelhe died right next to a planet why not eat the planet

He needs people and energy in the planet thats why he needed silver surfer​@@yeeterdeleter2096

This....i regrer watching honestly XD. I want to think that my man Colossus doesnt exists in this universe or that he is safae somehow. About Sentry maybe it happenned the same thing as in canon (He being insane and all that)

And Doctor Strange. Seriously, the guy deals with Lovecraftian horrors on a occasional basis. Strange failing to keep some eldritch horror from coming into the universe should've been the grand finale of Ruins. Just have it put out their misery by some eldritch being gobbling it up.

ironmaster64 I like to think Asgard is completely safe. deadpool and colossus are safe.

@@SSJ8Goku Strange died in the Avenjet

@@kid.hudson_ Actually, nobody knows what happened to him in this comic.

Imagine what Reed and Franklin Richard would have reacted to what happened to the members of the Fantastic Four or would have been the Fantastic Four?

@@derekpayneszubliminals7723 Even the Creator would go wtf .

yeah she lived so long till adulthood and died on a random plane lmaoo

I actually like it I enjoy dark stuff I don't like perfect endings thats why I SPOILERS FOR ENDGAME I really liked how they killed Iron Man

@@ratman7212 kinda weird but ight

@@averagebat761 how? Its boring seeing the heros always winning or surviving yes ik that sounds edgey but a new twist in hero comics (Dc, specially marvel sense they dont do this a whole lot) is cool an refreshing

@@jarretttomlin4254 yeah but it's even more boring to just see people constantly die

Oh god XD

DC fanboys be like "Flashpoint was way worse because the earth was destroyed!"

@black manta I love DC myself, but you gotta admit this is way darker

Flashpoint was dark, but there was still some hope, GOOD superheroes were still and the only one whos life was really fucked up was Superman. But this is just hopeless horror where everybody is miserable

@black manta He would snap twice.

Have you seen 'the boys"

So literally just “The Boys”?

God that sounds like a really bad and forced fanfiction

@@raycom201 Thanks. I just think Spider-Man would be an interesting villain. Mostly from the eerie mess he would leave from his web shooter.

Wyatt Russell hah yeah. Sorry for being mean

Cyril Makwembere is his stories usually that depressing and bad??

Ministry of Space had a... relatively upbeat ending. If you don't look too close. Global Frequency, Switchblade Honey (What If? Dan Dare/a Star Trek captain were played by Ray Winstone at his most gloriously fouth-mouthed cockney geezer), and even Transmetropolitan weren't completely depressing. Orbital and Planetary were superficially grimdark, but hopeful under the veneer. Two Step was downright cheerful, unless you're a small car when Ron's around ("I'm Ron. I shag stuff. Until it goes boom!"). Don't ask about Black Gas, Black Summer, No Hero, Angel Stomp Future, or Supergod though.

What are you talking about? Ellis' Moon Knight and Nextwave are incredible. Nextwave is incredibly lighthearted and Moon Knight is just badass through and through.

That didn't age well...

@@Noname-om3pp f

@@Noname-om3pp yep, F

_...Akward..._

Rip he will be remembered

The Celestials are all dead, presumably of space cancer. Prime Minister Batman Ellis commands it.

Unless of course your a one if the sexy female superheros thennyou can be a adult actor

And this is why reality sucks.

pupp3tmaster. VER10 that happen to me but for marvel zombies

Lmao i couldn't sleep for days cuz of this and marvel zombies

@@hazelnoot4122 Ikr I can't imagine Marvel Zombies

@TMPanos96 read "'the wicked "

@@polymerproduct_spTh this isn't a good reason to depressed lol. Hahaha, this is the best thing Marvel gave out and it gave me pure excitement on why Marvel is so great.

That's the point of the comic actually.

we do know about the villains, magneto's powers were uncontrollable and killed him, dr. doom went up with reed and the other fantastic 4 minus ben and took ben's place, enchantress is an adult movie star, kingpin is a warden that mistreats the mutants who are there against their will, and red skull likely became a cannibal, galactus died only a short distance from earth and silver surfer ripped his chest out trying to breath air.

no: I guess your right, they did have a few...but I was hoping for one mainly based on the villains. I could picture the rhino to be even more screwed up than before, electro stuck to the wires where he got his power from, continually giving off energy for years...still alive...oh and than clock and dagger.... Anyways, I think it would have been an area to dive into with ruins, if they wanted to continue the series. However, I know when it was out, very few people actually knew about the series because it wasn't widely publicized and only some stores had that series (I found out about it just by chance) On top of that, it took a very long time to get that second issue out (if I remember correctly, it was over 5 months) So not much chance of a part 2

It kinda had more of an unsettling feeling when it was focused on the *heroes* because these guys were the ones we root for and relate to, seeing someone as heroic and willing to put their life on the line for others against all odds just get absolutely shit on was a little traumatizing and that's what they were going for, the villains are mostly assholes so we wouldn't feel as impacted, which is probably why they mostly showed heroes, but the downside is that the entire story is based around subversing the superhero genre so it doesn't do anything with the amazingly interesting world that they made.

In my pov at least Serious House left s type of moral.

at least Arkham a serious house on a serious earth had a really good point and a very emotional ending.

@@aryan7767 Yeah, Ruins is like when they lost Copy Right and want to off every Char.

Yeah I'm not sure what the appeal is. I was curious but I'm glad I didn't buy it. This is not something I'd like to have said I bought.

From all the edge And I thought that ultimatum was bad

There needs to be a sequel want do you think a ruins version of Ultron would be

@@drakeevans8042 A computer virus instead of a robot

I think there won't be a sequel cuz now everybody died thanks to our spidey i guess

@@DioStandsStill It could be set in a different Earth for the sequel, i'm even writing my own fan fic.

@@Immortalshortie but ya know if marvel make this a film yo i'm up to it!!!!

Hmm no, Ruins is how powers would be in the WORST CASE scenario.

Dark≠Realistic I mean the whole Silver Surfer and Kree thing was just Bullshit (same with the Mutants situation)

@Kevin Byrnes yes

Lmao if the worst case ever happened that's alot of mad bullshit

ok that is sorta true!

Same here, when I first heard of this version of Marvel, I couldn't help but laugh, I thought it was so funny 😆🤣

I feel like that would be of the avengers existed irl, this is like a Murphy's law universe

What is it? I don't get it.

​@@BrajBliss in the comic picture he is playing a harmonica, not a banjo

@@3RAN7ON aye thanks. 6 years old comment. I didn't think I'd get a reply.

@@BrajBliss haha yeah I had to look at it again to know what you're talking about 😂

@@3RAN7ON Well. This was nice.

What do you mean like a nightmare

SUPER BOB58 ikr

Homeless dude with mental illness who thinks he is thor

@@inspector5122 he’s suffering the after affects of a bad shroom trip.

Nah superpowrrs are possible in the ruins universes so he'd probably still be asgardian

THERES DARKER SHYT IN MARVEL TRUST AN BELIEVE DONT BELIEVE IN THE HYPE

HUNCHO JACK can you tell me more

Also any alternate Marvel story: Marvel Zombies,Earth X, some What-if stories, The Last Avengers story.

@@hunchojack2614 Remember in Old Man Logan, how the Hulk forced She-Hulk into birthing a bunch of his babies, also he took over the entire South Western United States...?

Kendall Navstar “The boy don’t remember too good no more.”

Bet ur disappointed

I wanna know if u cried when seeing the movie. I did.

techniquerules Was he still King in this story? It's been a long time since I've read it. Considering that everything goes to Hell from the start yeah I agree it feels like a lazy write off of his character. I think a better take would have been him becoming drunk with power and being a violent, merciless warlord using Wakanda's advanced technology to conquer other countries expanding Wakanda's reach or being deposed by the populace and becoming a fugitive.

techniquerules I’m thinking he wasn’t a hero at all, he just some guy in a band or group. Like how Matt Murdock (daredevil) never actually was daredevil. He died as a kid and that’s it. So a lot of this changes the back story on these characters

Straight Busta How can it be a leftist shithole when Republicans are in control of almost all of the US government?

Performapal Monkeyboard Many "Republicans" aren't quite what they say they are

Performapal Monkeyboard “Republicans” haven’t been the party of the middle class for 30 years. There IS no party for regular working people anymore. It’s either minimum wage Bernie trash or corrupt Wall Street cheap illegal immigration labor trash. Which is why people voted for trump, because he was a fuck you to the right even more so than the left. Most people I know that voted for him guessed he would be a train wreck. And we’re grown up enough to know the president doesn’t actually have that much power.

I dunno it still is pretty bad

Yup

*written even shittier. At least ultimatum had that Captain America/Thor team up.

At least Ultimatum had SOME kind of story, this is literally just a Zoo trip to see who of your favourite heroes has a more fucked up life and death. As a world is interesting but as story is pretty bad. Coincidently they both ended in an anti climatic way

@Kevin Byrnes that's true, say what you want about the mcu, but at least the treat Strange with more respect than ultimatum.

Sammy Sam I am Really, that’s an overused plot point in Marvel that it’s practically a cliché. Moreover, it has no substance. “Oh, Galactus showed up, destroyed the planet, and now all of humanity is dead.” What then? The rest of the universe keeps on keepin’ on. It may not be as exciting or initially impactful as Galactus destroying the world. But, in my opinion, it is lingering and more meaningful to destroy human society morally and culturally and leave what’s left to wallow in the bleak squalor they themselves created.

Breeze Cornelius ok I’m sorry 😨 I just thought having galactus die for no reason was a waste of a cool character

Sammy Sam I am Oh, no. I agree. Galactus was absolutely wasted in this comic. I just don't think that having him destroy the planet would have been any more pleasing to read or thematically congruent with the rest of the story's tone.

I think his death being published is like a weekly world news headline.

Can confirm that far too many alternate universe stories end with Galtactus turning up.

To be fair it worked

Hi

shurednichso totally agree with you

more like what would happen if it's edgy

Seeing how horrible things went down in this universe makes me appreciate the other universes all the more.

Zen Pool yes very true

hat the duck no that's marvel knights and marvel max. This is horror and what would happen if the realism was cranked up a bit.

jedikye I love it because it’s such a crazy way of showing the marvel universe basically Murphy law the marvel universe

jedikye that's the entire point so glad you got it bud

Remix Dragon exactly no one seems to get that though

Yeah sure but come on look what they did to my poor peter, he already has so much to suffer with already

This is basically the premise of Dark Knight Metal, but Marvel just show the negative universe and not do anything with it.

Watch My 666 Cue the X-Men Intro from the 90s Animated Series.

UnexpectedWonder lmfao