Thanks for your detailed comment. It definitely deserves to be pinned.

@@WebAux-Gamer Nah, thanks for the video dude. It’s cool seeing these fun games getting compared together like this, keep up the fun!

​@@dirtyfighters7751You're welcome. I will try my best to compare more games

web swinging does NOT go to WOS. I agree it is very good for its time, but it is nowhere near the complexity and overall look of SM2, especially when you see good players use all the tricks, new featured instant charge jump, boosting through the air with Miles venom strike or Peters arms and web gliding. EDIT: I was kinda wrong. I now think both games are equal. What WoS lacks in certain areas, it makes up for in others. I recommend u guys play it again. The game allows more freedom in terms of pure web swinging, and I am doing things I didn't even know I could do in this game. Both games are great.

I respect your opinion and actually do agree with a few of your preferences, but Spider man 2's models are not bad at all, especially when you're comparing them to Web of Shadows. Either way, both games are fantastic

Yes that’s something Spider-Man 2 severely fumbled. You feel the exact same with the black suit. You’re not more powerful than his regular version. Very disappointing to me.

@@commonlogic7632true

​@@commonlogic7632yeah I agree to some extent

​@@commonlogic7632that would have broken balance so they put that in an ability (symbiote surge) so the gameplay will be enjoyable without making it too easy

games nowadays dont have balls but they have balls to show lesbian and gay shit in a spiderman game

Yeah. My favorite too

I think spider man 2 overcomes it they really look alike if you think about it

​@@Problemchild220Yet Spider-Man 2 doesn't have suit switching and don't have as many cool moves. It didn't "overcome" anything lol.

​@@PLYTATNbro its literally better, if you liked web of shadows you should also like spiderman 2

true i still play web of shadows. after completing apiderman 2 i felt nostalgic

yea they still using the anti gravity fighting mechanics . like why is spiderman floating in the air. they need wob air combat. idk why they didnt add it. if they made the web wings.

Bro they need to just transitioned all the physics from web swing to combat to wall running combat to the the SPM PS5 franchise

But insomniac has more blind fanboys

​@@Aboriginal_American_Hebrewweb swinging is better on Spider-Man 2 PS5

@@zeronime284 i disagree

100%

It was unfinished because they ran out of money. Wos literally proves you can make it better if you want to but these devs with enough money has to be either equal or worse than games that had short funds

They worked on Web Of Shadows for only 16 months

@@Papa_Straight I read they ran out off time and well of course money kind of both it’s really messed up considering how amazing of a job they did

@@Aboriginal_American_Hebrew game should've gotten finished with an expansion later but that kinda thing was almost scarce in that time. It was good enough story for a unfinished game absolutely good combat system and the suit switch is just iconic. Graphics wasn't good for reasons people with common sense will understand,game didn't feel slow it was good simply.

all i could think about when playing spider-man 2, web of shadows was so much more elaborate in that manner

Changing suits mid battle doesn't mean very much you can somewhat do that to it's just the abilities don't cross-over, enter rage mode or whatever and you instantly change suits seems good enough for especially when you get to play as three different characters that you can fight as

@@activeninja4012 nah the moveset was equally massive for both suits regarding animations and combat. I agree with what you're saying, but all hes simply talking about is the mechanics for both symbiote and traditional suits were way more in depth in comparison, especially for its time. Regardless SM2 is still better either way, web of shadows was just dope

@@sajidsamey8621Woah woah chill out it’s definitely not better than wos

Yeah its just that in spider man 2 in the narrative the point is that he cant get the suit off him

Yeah! Web of shadows combat is truly a masterpiece

YES DUDE the wall combat was incredible, being able to throw cars, and suit switching. I’m so glad i owned a copy

Cause no other game has even done wall combat. Fuck no other game has ever really done web strike (web strike wasn’t just used to close large distances). Web of shadows combat is revolutionary because traversal and combat were linked deeply and you could freely switch at any time from swinging, wall running, in the air to combat.

I support it

Same, whole heartedly!

Exactly... when the whole world was drenched in goo and symbiote infected people are everywhere. Plus venom is like Extremely tough and strong in both of the games.

The Sony games are just cash grabs to appeal to “fan boys”

You're right. Web of Shadows Spider-Man is the most strongest video game Spider-Man ever. He literally defeated giant venom and many other supervillains who were bonded with the symbiote.

Eh, i’d say shattered dimensions/edge of time and Web of Shadows are equal in terms of power level. Since Shattered Dimenions/ Edge Of Time Peter are 616, it would have to depend on whether or not Web of Shadows has 616 strength or more

Insomniac is stronger than wos and I have proof but shattered demensiton is stronger

​@@rigb0013hey look at my other comment

@@Venomdunkingonspiderman_editz can i see your proof? I mean, web of shadows ripped Wolverine in half when insomniac lost to miles, even with the symbiote. Also, yea, shattered dimensions/edge of time is stronger, he tears through enemies much more easily

Also the games nowadays all are trying to impress you with how many details and rendered objects they can put on screen. Same goes for DMC5, for example. While in the WoS are they didn't hesitate to make a costume purple instead of pitch black that looks like a big black spot, or to give your strikes a flashy colorful aura to emphasize the impact. And now the game is kinda dull with being so very realistic at any point of time. Another example is the way GTA SA blures your vision and makes the camera shake when you start gaining speed. And GTA 5 just doesn't. Yes, it's more realistic, but there's no feeling you're being fast, you just kinda see things speed up.

yeah i really like how they featured other characters like moon knight and black widow. it made the game feel more alive.

You're right. Old games were masterpiece. I can definitely say insomniac took inspiration from web of shadows for the black suit combat and symbiote invasion

This is the most intelligent post.

@@abdulaliakbar1175 lol thank you

@@WebAux-Gamer exactly. It also takes inspiration from Ultimate Spider-Man with the Venom combat. I’m not going to say Spiderman 2 is a perfect game, but the developers had such a fun time creating it and put a lot of care into honoring the games before.

I also thought that. Marvel Spider-Man 2 took inspiration from web of shadows.

@@WebAux-Gamer even the intro song where Spidey is walking sad appears on the game on a secondary mission

Yeah! That's a cool easter egg

A remake who fails at capturing everything that the OG game did right.

people might disagree but i dont @@TheBatman39

Agreed 💯

in my opinion just the combat is better

Much more badass but not logical to put hack and slash physics into the realistic focussed theme of Spider-Man 2

​​​@@zeronime284 *Huge rant warning* (Won't lie to you. Like, this is LONG. Essay long. Wrote a whole chapter here. Sorry you're the victim of this, just gotta get this off my chest.) (Also, despite all I say here, I still think SM2's combat is a huge improvement over the 1st. Just, not anywhere near WoS' level of depth. And I really do like SM2 a lot, but I won't ignore its flaws, especially when compared to previous Spidey games) Imo, that's the point. The symbiote suit SHOULD look unrealistic. It's literally an alien. Plus, it'd be an amazing contrast to the usual realism. Making it seem more unnatural, weird, and dangerous. Like, imagine getting it in SM2 and seeing combat like in WoS. It'd really sell the power and uniqueness of the symbiote and clash against the realism in a way that also serves the concept of it being an alien of unknown whereabouts. Also, it's just plain badass having the tendrils as a part of alternate combos and being their own thing instead of 4 abilities you use and have to wait to use again. It's way more versatile and diverse. Sounds kinda OP, right? Good. It's supposed to be. It'd also be a much better way of having us, like Pete, not wanna get rid of it. When all it adds is a cool, but short-lived surge mode and 4 abilities, the loss of the symbiote doesn't hit as hard. I guarantee if I played WoS, based on how they both look alone, I'd use the symbiote suit way more than the regular. With SM2, I don't get that. I don't feel like I need the symbiote. The abilities are good, but the iron arm ones, while being worse, still exist as a replacement. The surge mode is the best, but doesn't add much, the only reason it being as cool as it is is the custom finishers that happen every 2 or 3 hits. When *MIDGAME SLIGHTLY BEFORE VENOM SPOILERS* I wasn't able to use the symbiote abilities anymore 'cause Pete got the suit off, I was just like "oh well" and moved on. The symbiote suit being in a game has always been such a rich and genius idea to me. It's an addiction that, if done right, can infect the player too. That's why I find it so interesting and why I clearly care too much about it. The concept of having a gameplay style so good that it overshadows the other in almost, if not, every way is so juicy. Imagine how long you have the symbiote on or how many missions you have it on for actually affect the story? You get all this power and combat that feels objectively superior to the one you had before, but at the cost of losing yourself. It's absolutely immaculate. Not "good" or "bad" decisions the game lets you make, decisions that your gameplay makes, decisions that your love and greed for power make. You choose, not based on what you want but based on how you've played. The symbiote corrupts. What better way to show that corruption by not giving you the option to be better due to your gameplay feeding into that corruption? That would make it feel more like a real choice. And actually have consequences for both paths. If you play with the regular suit more, your side is chosen because of that, the consequence being having less power and damage, not having as many combos, and maybe bosses requiring another phase or healthbar to take down. If you play more with the symbiote suit, like with the regular, your side is chosen because of that, the consequence being losing friends or something or accidentally killing because of all the power. Like, maybe MJ stops talking to you, the police no longer trust you and try to arrest you, like when Pete first started out as Spidey. Perhaps make the game kinda easy with the symbiote suit and ramp it up the longer you have it on, to the point where it's too easy and not fun anymore. The main consequences for the regular suit route should be more gameplay focused and the main consequences for the symbiote suit route should be more narratively focused. And with that, I'm finally done. Like I said at the top, I'm sorry that you're the unfortunate one who indirectly and accidentally set me on this rant, I originally didn't mean for this comment to be THIS long, but I just kept typing and typing and typing. I'm at the point where this is me actively telling myself I have to end this comment now. If you read all this, you're a real trooper and I commend you. If not, I don't blame you and would've done the same in your shoes.

​@@MahitoAlmasLocasEven the swinging if you know the controls to make it look dope. It's a bit hard but once you get the hang of it man it's just so awesome

I mean neither did Spider-Man 2. Now the Amazing Spider-Man movie games, those had ridiculously repetitive combat

@@cooldude2027Spider-Man 2 has the same 2 combos and then the L1 and r1 moves while wos had moved u can do unlimited times

@@Thaboy925 yeah because if said L1 and R1 moves were unlimited than the game would be too easy

@@cooldude2027 even if that was the case wos would still have more combos in 1 suit 😭😭😭

I know it's unfair to compare graphics. But to make a full A-Z comparison I had to include graphics. Web of shadows graphics wasn't bad either. It was way ahead of time.

to be fair, spider man 2 graphics look at most like a Medium version of red dead redemption 2 with only max reflections

It would be so cool to get a web of shadows remake. Those who played the game can understand how great it was! But Activision lost Spider-Man license. So, there's very less chance of getting web of shadows sequel after all these years.

I think a remaster would be better, cause in most remakes they change a lot of shit. And the only things that really should be changed in WOS is graphics and maybe add more combos, and maybe upgrade the web swinging, other than that I want the game to remain the same.

Nice catch. I never thought about it that way. It's true. You never really get up close and personal in SM2. Wide-scale attacks are cool, but sometimes something as simple as beating someone to a pulp with your bare hands just has more oomph. It feels more personal. More spiteful. More deliberate. Yes, he could just demolish any of them in a few seconds, but he actively *chooses* to take his time and beat them in the simultaneously worst and most fun ways imaginable. And even then, he's still creative and using it effectively. He revels in the power by taking his time and enjoying it while still not shying away from using the tendrils to sling around or pull enemies closer. It's fantastic.

Yeah! I want a game like this. But I don't think this gonna happen.

@@WebAux-Gamer I hope that spiderman 3 will be close to this playstyle

​@@johnska399i think you meant to say mechanics regarding WoS and not Insomniac

Also don't forget his swing kick can send a car flying 😉

Honestly, Peter should be able to do that without his Symbiote suit anyway. And he does show he can in the Marvel spider man games. Let's not forget that in 2018 he lifts up rails to launch a train through the street. He also lifts up a truck. In Spider-man 2 he holds 2 rollercoaster cart lines in 1 arm at some point too. So it might look OP..., but it's well within Pete's strength

Because Spider-Man is strong like that

That, he can't do it unless he's wearing the symbiote

Yeah, bro, Insomniac Spiderman seems lacking in those types of things. I wished we could lift the car in the Spiderman 2 PS5 like the Web of Shadows.

insomniac spider man is kinda mid

Literally one of the best version of Spider-Man out there @@abhirupkundu2778

​@@abhirupkundu2778 Close to it but still a masterpiece.😂 I prefer wos spiderman

@@abhirupkundu2778 yeah, I don’t know why buddy is calling it a masterpiece lmfao. PS5 Spiderman and PS4 are shit tier games with dumb one dimensional combat. Wos is an actual in depth game with better mechanics than a “new gen AAA Game”.

It was before the miles morales game

Yeah! An absolute menace. I still remember how badass evil symbiote spider-man was! Dude ripped wolverine in half like it was nothing 💀

@@WebAux-Gamer yeah and how he kept punching symbiote electro to get the symbiote out of him

Ok. I will try

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Spider-Man 3 had a rage mode too. No tentacles but I do mean you get your RAGE ON with it in the game

​@TheNSpartan On the PS2 port of the game, the rage mode was so f*cking cool and broken, you absolutely demolished the enemies with the rage mode. One awesome attention to detail was that if you had it activated for too long, the symbiote started to take control until you passed out and it was game over, which is very lore-accurate to how the symbiote works sometimes in the Spiderman mythos.

@@TheBatman39 True enough. But the Treyarch version is way better than the Vicarious Visions version. Can ragdoll enemies, can do way more fun moves like a black suit only move where you pin an enemy to the ground and beat him in the face. And another one aptly named ROFL Copter

it is a bit lagging

wonky animation lol

Agree.

3:50 he busted hard.

Combat includes boss fights, reaction, counters, building in depth strategy, Spiderman 2 100% clears, web of shadows just has cool moves

That would be the best spider-man game ever 🔥

Yeah what they were able to achieve in less than 2 years is nothing short of a miracle. Some games have lengthier dev cycles but don't feel as in depth

No, Insomniac is better in every way. Nothing about Web of Shadows got right that Insomniac didn't

Yes, you're right. Web of shadows showed us what true spider-man combat would look like. This game focused on more Spider-Man skills and combat abilities rather than just add gadgets like latest spider-man games.

@@WebAux-Gamer well they are not abilities they are skills just you don't have to input code on the controller for a decent combo

​@@Venomdunkingonspiderman_editzH0LY SH1T, SHUT THE F3CK UP YOU ABSOLUTE INSOMNIAC SHILL... wtf do you mean by that not being an ability and that it is a skill... wtf are you on about regarding 'input code' you can still utilise those moves at the end of a combo tbose abilities even at any start of a combo or the end or the middle... it's not like you have any idea on what you're typing about... its not like your good at WoS because you're too much of a smoothbrain to even play properly... gtfo

Because canonically Spiderman moves in that speed it's just slower down for the player in games and movies Spiderman in comics is as fast as the speed of sound literally faster than bullets

@@WebAux-Gamernot really wos is more a fan made spider man moveset

Finally, someone remembered how powerful web of shadows Spider-Man was!

@@WebAux-Gamer I beat that game 5 times, I never get tired of seeing Spider-Man slay symbiotic behemoths and their armies. It was sadly a rushed game in the end, however it is only a quarter of the original product that was intended. I miss this type of raw ambition in Spider-Man projects.

Facts 🔥

Whatever it is, spider man 2 swinging feels to smooth to realistic. The web of shadows one has better swinging realism, and peter swings only after the web attaches to something unlike spider man 2

tbh thats my issue with spiderman 2. when they announced that that was the route they were going with venom i immediately lost interest. i would have loved if they actually treaded into new territory, and tried do something that actually took creativity. it just felt like a dumb rehash of web of shadows but dulled down.

@@dev0hh Whilst playing it I couldn't believe how much of what this story is about was already done immensely better in previous games. It's an enjoyable game for sure but it could have been so much more, both gameplay and story wise.

The music name is "saving the world". It's available on KZfaq audio library

Agreed 💯

You're right. Modders are insane. Even tho marvel spider man 2 is not released on PC yet, but modders already made different kind of mods based on marvel spider man 2. Hope insomniac release this game on PC soon.

Thanks. I also had some memories with web of shadows. It was a great game. If you enjoyed the video then don't forget to subscribe my channel. More interesting videos are coming soon.

Did u even play spiderman 2?💀

@@do4e849 he's not wrong though.

@@headshotmaster138 Yes he's right about that but the whole thing goes to spider man 2

@@do4e849 such as?

@@headshotmaster138Can't u find out on your own? Lol it's already too obvious, there's too many and i can't just enumerate them for you and don't go saying that i can't give it

Bro don't get creampied by nostalgia, spider man 2 needed reaction time, strategy, had hard boss fights and insane amount of skill to beat the game, it was obviously x10 better

@@do4e849 cry more zoomer.

I liked it too

Wos combat is just in my opinion the best combat in a spiderman game

For WOS Both suits have different animations too in every aspect. Running, swinging , and of course combat. in Spider-Man 2 it's the same until it came to finishers and rage mode. Also to add in wos you can actually feel the buff the black suit gives you. It doubles the strength with just basic combos.

​@@knightghost1782Also in WOS your special meter bar refills faster in the black suit than the normal suit

I showed air/wall combat. Watch from 4:41 and 5:33

how is fall damage the same when web of shadows virtually doesn't have any? for that many "references" you'd think you'd get something like that right

@@Bruzewane You did click on the links, right?

@@maddenboseroy4074 did you? web of shadows virtually has no fall damage especially when you rank up in that game lol to say it's the same as the newer game is objectively false and just makes you look like you never played it, youtube videos aren't a susbstitute for actually playing these games

@@Bruzewane Well, I did watch the videos (why else did I list them as my references), and the only thing they said about fall damage is that you actually could slip up in web-swinging. As for the fall damage itself, you do see Spidey not stick the landing in Web of Shadows, so...

@@maddenboseroy4074 web of shadows functionally has no fall damage, you can fall from the empire state building and you'll lose only a slither of your health that'll get healed up in a few seconds that's why it's important to actually PLAY these games instead of watching random videos

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Yeah! But symbiote Spider-Man is different. He does kill enemy sometimes

@@WebAux-Gamer True that but he usually has to get pushed to the edge to really go for a kill like with Kraven and with Sandman in the SM3 movie

Yeah! Those combos were deadly 🔥 choking enemies with tendrils is what I have never seen in any other Spider-Man game