“Matter” comes from the Latin word for Mother (mater), and “Pattern” comes from the Latin word for Father (Pater)

Very true. I am realizing that a lot of my feelings of admiration, friendship etc get confused with sexual ones. Everything nowadays is sexualized so it’s hard to unpick all of it and realize that’s what’s happened. Very humbling to realize I don’t know myself as much as I like to think I do.

I like how John Eldridge puts it when he says that the feminine imparts life and the masculine imparts identity.

Been experimenting lately with associating the feminine within context, or perhaps *it being context itself*. Think about how modern culture has done well to decontexulize everything. All that exists is that which lies within the focal point. Everything in the periphery is discounted. In a world of decontexulization, bodies mean nothing, the only thing that has value is the head; that which is explicitly identifyable. Bodys don't exist anymore, which explains our aversion towards hierarchy and authority. I think we may be trying to unconciously account for this "lack of femininity" in modern culture (as Pageau states) juxtaposing women into masculine roles. It makes sense after all, that a materialist culture would reduce femininity to only genitalia. The feminine is what the heroe is embeded in, the context that surrounds him. Also, note how the Virgin is virtually absent from Protestant tradition.

This is very timely for me. I caught myself yesterday in mistaking the identity and direction I was giving to a younger woman as a temptation into sexual sin. It hurts to recognize how damaged we are by the world.

This was rather groundbreaking for me. I can't thank you enough for this. May God continue to bless you in your work. ☦☦☦

The masculine as the informational/directional/begetting force, and feminine as the energetic/receptive/producing force, is analogous to classical thermodynamics where entropy and energy distributions determine the dynamics of a system: it's the interaction of entropy gradients (masculine; 2nd law of thermodynamics) with the ambient energy (feminine; 1st law of thermodynamics) towards equilibrium (affectation; 0th law of thermodynamics) that animates all of creation. There are functional 'trinities' in other areas too. Like in mathematics with consistency, completeness, and decideability. Also, creative processes are composed of variation, selection, and crossover. If our reality is a fractal tripartite network, then the image of the uncreated (God) as Father, Spirit, and Son is very intuitive.

David Deida is another important figure who beautifully describes the difference between the feminine and the masculine and how this matters to relationships. I would love to hear Jonathan and David to discuss their point of view.

This was very eye opening.

Origins and History of Consciousness by Eric Newman. It’s all about this and a lot more.

The ending was great !

Love this

I liked this video before even watching it lol Title sold me

brilliant!

Christ, to move to the “spiritual sense“, gives us *his* body through his bride the church (who of course has taken grain & grapes from the earth), as God accomplished the incarnation through Mary. Is it appropriate to conceive of the church as bride of Christ as “giving body” in the Eucharist?

Starting point vs end direction

Christ plants the seed in the heart of the person, and as that seed grows, the person is transformed-metanoia. The Church IS the bride of Christ, the inseparable female aspect of his humanness; the material body through which the new person is born via participation in the sacraments. Pageau’s insights are invaluable.

the "rap culture" example was a great illustration.

The masculine and feminine is also light and darkness, like the way the spirit of God hovered over the face of the waters.

Grape vines grow on trellises.

Shorty

Love of the Master is not like any other relationship. Jesus cries put to the Master, to Adonai, up on the cross, and yet we see him as the Master; it's a mystery. Forsaken. Because a Father would run over there and take his son down from the cross, and a lover would stand by his side while de dies; a friend to the end. But the Master will let him die for all humanity, suffering, which is the means for our salvation. The Master will let you fall. It is a unique and mystifying relationship, as the Supersoul of your own soul, it knows what you need to get free. Only then can we return home. Any less than what we need, what we deserve, and we remain bound. Faith is living the truth, not just dealing with it.

I respect Jonathan's perspective, but it does not fully agree with the manifestations of male/female as expressed in Creation, in animals (and plants). The "authority" or "leadership" aspect of the male is not generally seen in nature. In birds, who are the exquisitely refined descendants of dinosaurs, males are generally monogamous. The female chooses the nest site, and he partners in feeding the young. In mammals the male-vs.-male warrior aspect is more common than any kind of leadership, and old females usually lead the way to the best feeding grounds. In Revelations it says in the end we will walk before the Throne as four beings as one: a man, an ox, a lion and an eagle (old English translation.) So I think we need to go beyond human social perspectives in understanding male/female. Native American culture could inform this discussion. Russel Means often spoke of the balance of masculine/feminine in Native culture. They see the masculine as a warrior-strength which shields the mothers, and the mother-strength in turn protects the infants and also the very old, who are the teachers of the young. in the natural world female seeds (eggs) are very few compared to the number of male seeds (sperm, pollen etc.) What is the symbolic significance of that, I wonder ? What is the significance that males are "expendable" and therefore called to be self-sacrificing ? I deeply honor that quality in men, whether as soldiers, or as providers for their families. I think that is Christlike, and more meaningful than "leadership."

But when you are attracted to someone you aren't just attracted to their parts but their accidental qualities like virtue as well. I guess when choosing a partner you want something that brings all levels into fruitful community.

"Animal husbandry"

True enough, but also let’s not forget to add that man and woman are equal in dignity. Talking about man as ,,higher” really can have a bad undertone if not understood properly. Men and women are different, play different roles and the differences are good, but one is not more than the other in value and dignity. And no, this is not progressivism, this is how God created us. Equally loved and equal in his eyes as beloved children. I’m saying this because I know that many young women today have a problem with accepting this concept of masculine/feminine because they feel like it’s suggesting women are less valuable and dignified than men, and as a result turn away from Christianity because they feel like it’s not respecting their dignity. This is not talked about a lot, but it’s happening a lot, so I just think we should be aware of that and always clarify things.

This is why literally created the no homo rule. So we can hang out without Bros without the awkwardness 😂😂

Yea it's a set up

In hip-hop "Shawty" is never used for the crew/younger guys, please provide evidence and I will retract my comment. Love your work. Sufficient evidence exists (comments) that in the previous millennium "shorty" was indeed used to describe men.

Hey Mr pageau, do you know your IQ?