Is Midna Dead? (Zelda Theory)

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BanditGames

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3 жыл бұрын

The Legend of Zelda has had many side characters; but Midna from Twilight Princess usually takes the cake as the best of them all. Allied with Link, she undergoes a deep character development from villainous and selfish to heroic and caring; but for some reason decides to leave the World of Light at the end of the game... forever. She shatters the Mirror of Twilight before saying the infamous last phrase: "See You Later." Could this scene that has pulled at our heart strings all these years possibly hold an even darker secret?
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@BanditGames
@BanditGames 3 жыл бұрын
Who's your FAVORITE character from any Zelda game? EDIT: also, remember that whether Midna died or lived at the end of TP, she could still return via the Adult Timeline where none of this ever happened... Food for thought!
@natalietrimmer4658
@natalietrimmer4658 3 жыл бұрын
Saria
@moragolo
@moragolo 3 жыл бұрын
Fi
@Kai-rg4kb
@Kai-rg4kb 3 жыл бұрын
*revali*
@endru0334
@endru0334 3 жыл бұрын
DARUK
@BanditGames
@BanditGames 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kai-rg4kb EW
@billbertboyce324
@billbertboyce324 3 жыл бұрын
I thought that she broke the mirror of twilight because she didn't want to risk anything, like the events of Twilight princess, happening again. She destroyed the only known way into the twilight realm to prevent the possibility of hyrule being screwed over again. And I thought that Midna was sad about leaving because she liked Link a lot. So saying goodbye was going to be difficult, knowing that they'd never meet again.
@tiagox3275
@tiagox3275 3 жыл бұрын
I think that's what the developers intended too. but of course, it's way too simple and obvious, so the cool people who make theories completely ignore it lol
@modelomegatyler
@modelomegatyler 3 жыл бұрын
yes, that'd be a normal person's thought process, but youtubers think differently so they can make videos like this and get cash money by saying dumb theories.
@Elethriel
@Elethriel 3 жыл бұрын
@@modelomegatyler :(
@mobbarley1102
@mobbarley1102 Жыл бұрын
Yeaa im confused, she just lives in the twilight now why is everyone making this a big confusing thing
@ronandread5141
@ronandread5141 Жыл бұрын
Link is persistent and she knows this . he tried searching for navi who also died .
@codyt8541
@codyt8541 3 жыл бұрын
Here's my theory: shes the true ruler of the twilight realm. That's why the game literally says only the true ruler can fully destroy the mirror. 200 IQ
@ahtayneplantak-tilley8579
@ahtayneplantak-tilley8579 3 жыл бұрын
Shes a descendant of the interlopers who were banished to the twilight realm, so why would she have the powers to escape and destroy their prison. That would mean the interlopers would have been able to hop on right out.
@stv0036
@stv0036 3 жыл бұрын
@@ahtayneplantak-tilley8579 but they're also not able to survive in the light. The only reason they took over Hyrule was because twilight covered it with Zant/Ganon's power. If they massed an invasion they wouldn't get very far without a similar power on their side. Their choice is prison or death.
@Proximius
@Proximius 3 жыл бұрын
Yah, I'm not sure why that's being glossed over here. Zant is known as the Usurper King for a reason, and Midna is a central figure to his story and development. He wouldn't have the hatred and bitterness for her that he does if she wasn't someone powerful, aka the true ruler of the Twili. She's not dead, she's literally the head honcho of the Twilight Realm, with all the power and magic that comes with that role. She is, for all intents and purposes, the Twilight Realm's Zelda.
@Nerukenshi1233
@Nerukenshi1233 3 жыл бұрын
@@Proximius you could say... She's the Twilight Princess
@Shotnthdark
@Shotnthdark 3 жыл бұрын
You can’t destroy the mirror from the other side. Also why would an object made by light spirits turn people into monsters?
@hyruleguy9569
@hyruleguy9569 3 жыл бұрын
Nah. I don't think she's dead. These are just minor inconsistencies in the ending. And the reason she can freely walk around in the final scene while it's daytime is because it's the hour of twilight.
@CatlordCalamity
@CatlordCalamity 3 жыл бұрын
Smart thinking
@dissonanceparadiddle
@dissonanceparadiddle 3 жыл бұрын
Plus she's got her form restored so with it might bring back abilities she once had
@terrasean1216
@terrasean1216 3 жыл бұрын
Stage one: denial
@Mendouja
@Mendouja 3 жыл бұрын
You’re wrong
@SalamiSelimbo
@SalamiSelimbo 3 жыл бұрын
same
@1hyugaclan1
@1hyugaclan1 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think Midna died. After Zelda's spirit was released, Midna didn't turn into a shadow like she normally does when in the world of light. So maybe Midna absorbed some power from the triforce of wisdom?
@BanditGames
@BanditGames 3 жыл бұрын
Great takeaway! Though, Ganondorf's power could have been covering the land of Hyrule in Twilight in the final battle, providing a safe haven of sorts for Midna to exist outside of being a shadow. I do believe Midna received the power of the Triforce of Wisdom (I actually have another theory on that) but it definitely returned to Zelda in its entirety after Dark Beast Ganon's defeat.
@hylianchampion8867
@hylianchampion8867 3 жыл бұрын
@@BanditGames if ganondorf covered the area in twilight, shouldn't link have turned into a wolf?
@Dante1282
@Dante1282 3 жыл бұрын
@@hylianchampion8867 the master sword repels the curse of the twilight.
@petery6432
@petery6432 3 жыл бұрын
@@hylianchampion8867 He had the Master Sword. It kept him from going into a wolf form as we see throughout the Palace of Twilight
@hylianchampion8867
@hylianchampion8867 3 жыл бұрын
@@petery6432 oh yeah.
@brewreview9040
@brewreview9040 3 жыл бұрын
Theory: She's the true ruler of the Twili because she's the first 'true' Twili. Twilight is a time of day when there's a mix of both light and dark. And so the Dark Interlopers are well, simply dark. The Light spirits are able to infuse Midna with Light once she's dead and revive her as a true mix of Light and Dark. So with her job class upgraded she's able to create a Tear of Light and shatter the mirror, then heads into the realm to lead her people. Remember, in the Twilight Realm the Twili need the Sols in order to maintain their shape. The means they don't have any Light of their own, but rather have to use the artificial Light of the Sols so that they don't devolve into beastial shadows. But that's just a theory.
@jacintacapelety9600
@jacintacapelety9600 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think the Sols maintain the forms of the Twili. The game dialogue makes it clear that the Twili only turned into shadow beasts as a result of Zant using Ganon's magic, and the Sols seem to just restore them to their true forms. The fact that Midna says that the gods of her world are on Link's side too when the Sols get absorbed into the master sword implies that the Sols are a divine energy source, not artificial, and I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that a divine energy source could reverse a curse like that, similar to how the master sword broke the curse Zant placed on Link to keep him in his wolf form.
@emmaspencer4586
@emmaspencer4586 3 жыл бұрын
​@@jacintacapelety9600 A thought just struck me: Could the Sols and the sacred flames from Skyward Sword be somewhat related in a way? Both of them are used to fill the Master Sword(or Goddess Sword) with power, upgrading it, and granting it new abilities. Since the Sacred Flames seem to be created by the Golden Goddesses themselves, the Sols origin could be the same.
@jacintacapelety9600
@jacintacapelety9600 3 жыл бұрын
@@emmaspencer4586 I kinda doubt it, considering Midna talks about the gods of her world as if the twilight realm has separate gods from the realm of light. I could maybe see them being the twilight realm's *equivalent* to the sacred flames, kinda like how Lorule in A Link Between Worlds had it's own version of the triforce, but I don't think the sols were made by the golden goddesses like the flames are implied to be.
@miss_walderdbeere
@miss_walderdbeere 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly what i was thinking
@monstar3626
@monstar3626 3 жыл бұрын
AAA GAME THEORY
@gabeadams7388
@gabeadams7388 3 жыл бұрын
I love anything involving Midna, I think she's the best companion in any Zelda game tbh
@aarontuck492
@aarontuck492 3 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@DragonEnthusiast
@DragonEnthusiast 3 жыл бұрын
The only one with her own personality
@1tsbag134
@1tsbag134 3 жыл бұрын
@@DragonEnthusiast yeah we need more like that no robots or annoying ones
@nutboy4239
@nutboy4239 3 жыл бұрын
Nah I think fi was a bit better *sarcasm has been detected*
@hylianchampion8867
@hylianchampion8867 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@ADHDgonewild7
@ADHDgonewild7 3 жыл бұрын
She didn’t start as a villain, more like an antihero
@uzer141
@uzer141 3 жыл бұрын
@Alexander Brigagao so basically a neutral character who then turns into a good character
@caydengarvey657
@caydengarvey657 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe instead of dying she became a "Twilight Spirit" along the same lines as the Light Spirits of the light world
@SkyP9812
@SkyP9812 3 жыл бұрын
Twilight is a state in between light and darkness.
@Max-si2zn
@Max-si2zn 3 жыл бұрын
Lol I was thinking half light half dark but why didn't I think if twilight hahaha
@hoodiedagamer17
@hoodiedagamer17 3 жыл бұрын
Theory: For this I’m going to call the twilight realm the “dark realm” to get my point across. Midna is a being of darkness, a PURE being of darkness. That’s why she lives in Link’s shadow when in the world of light. Since Zelda is a being of light, when she gives her life force to midna, midna is now a half light, half shadow being. When the light spirits revive her, she then permanently becomes a half light, half or shadow being, or “Twilight being” if you will. When she leaves the world of light she is leaving as a light spirit, and entering her world as a shadow spirit. Feel free to point out any flaws in my theory.
@hoiimtemmie1318
@hoiimtemmie1318 3 жыл бұрын
I tinK daT tO
@prateekpoddar1890
@prateekpoddar1890 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely makes sense, especially since the spirits of light probably intervened because they admired her sacrifice?
@SkyePilgrim
@SkyePilgrim 3 жыл бұрын
"The mirror can't be be created by the gods that made the triforce it shares no resemblance" Literally next shot in the video: Shows the mirror clearly with the triforce symbol in the middle, and it shines with a light we only know from the triforce
@Flandre-Scarlet
@Flandre-Scarlet 3 жыл бұрын
Lol ikr
@TheTricycleDriveby
@TheTricycleDriveby 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that immediately made me tune right out of this video
@lordseelenfresserdemonking1168
@lordseelenfresserdemonking1168 Жыл бұрын
*I feel like he hasn't even played the games and just watches cutscenes from videos cause so far his theories have more holes in it then a U.S soilder at Normandy*
@minaashido518
@minaashido518 Жыл бұрын
@@lordseelenfresserdemonking1168 OOF
@user-es6xl5fr4v
@user-es6xl5fr4v Ай бұрын
Just because there's a design of a triforce on it? That's like saying every hylian shield in game was made by the gods.
@kakarikokage2514
@kakarikokage2514 3 жыл бұрын
What if she was reborn and returned to her people as a goddess of Twilight? A light in the darkness.
@viniciusmelquiades
@viniciusmelquiades 3 жыл бұрын
That would make sense, as Link used the Sols there to empower the master sword. It's never stated that those two were the only ones, but if we assume they were, then the twili would need a new source of light, and that could be the new light spirit Midna
@ronandread5141
@ronandread5141 Жыл бұрын
Or she is a half light spirit
@taimurqazi7603
@taimurqazi7603 3 жыл бұрын
I think she became a hybrid of sorts, able to exist in Light and Twilight
@redapple9885
@redapple9885 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure, but did the games ever state that a being of light can't exist in darkness? They turn into ghosts which can still interact with their surroundings, but do they die?
@DIe3llie
@DIe3llie 3 жыл бұрын
And in the Twilight Realm Link can move freely without being a wolf
@redapple9885
@redapple9885 3 жыл бұрын
@@DIe3llie Yeah, but that's because of the shadow crystal Link and Midna got from Zant, isn't it?
@emmaspencer4586
@emmaspencer4586 3 жыл бұрын
@@redapple9885 And the master sword too.
@austingreene9982
@austingreene9982 3 жыл бұрын
If we are working on the end assumption that she is a light spirit now, then at worst she would probably end up in a similar state to the light spirits we save in game. Heavily weakened, but can survive.
@user-kn9cf7ux5g
@user-kn9cf7ux5g 3 жыл бұрын
If the shadow crystal allows beings of light to exist in twilight, then why Midna wouldn't survive? I dont remember any scene showing that the shadow crystal was taken from her.
@alyssiataylor546
@alyssiataylor546 3 жыл бұрын
"What if there's more to this statement than what meets the eye?' :D "What if she's DEAD" D:
@danogorman8883
@danogorman8883 3 жыл бұрын
I just love ur profile pic 😂😂😂. I can't change mine ):
@alyssiataylor546
@alyssiataylor546 3 жыл бұрын
@@danogorman8883 I think you can change it if you click on it at the google homepage
@doofuscawt
@doofuscawt 9 ай бұрын
hi@@alyssiataylor546
@SchneeflockeMonsoon
@SchneeflockeMonsoon 3 жыл бұрын
Personally, I’ve never bought the whole “even the triforce of power can’t break the mirror of twilight”. I personally think Gannondorf didn’t *let* Zant break it, since he still has a purpose to use the twilight realm.
@rebelfriend47
@rebelfriend47 3 жыл бұрын
I’m so excited for this theory. I’ve been running low on twilight Princess theories
@BirdieSenpai
@BirdieSenpai 3 жыл бұрын
Holy crap, so...Midna pulled a Navi from the end of Ocarina of Time.
@midnatwilight7120
@midnatwilight7120 3 жыл бұрын
Such a Navi...
@Skiddlescout
@Skiddlescout 3 жыл бұрын
Countertheory: when midna was purified and became a light spirit, she was sent to the twilight realm to save her people, and she destroyed the mirror with the knowledge she could forge a hyrule mirror in the future, when her people were ready. However, she knew that this would be thousands of years down the line and the people she had grown to love would be long dead, leaving only their descendants. When the people of both realms were ready, the Spirit of the Twilight (which would be Midna) could bring the realms back together. If they did this, then they could have the first Zelda game that wasn't actually about Link and Zelda, but rather about Midna as the protagonist. Name of that game could be Legend of Zelda: The Return of the Spirit or something like that. Yes, I am typing this all out because the thought of my favorite videogame character ever committing suicide is just too depressing for me
@juliarediger3487
@juliarediger3487 Жыл бұрын
I would play this game, dude.
@zanted809
@zanted809 3 жыл бұрын
Admit it, the “butt” transitions are amazing.
@ArinJager1
@ArinJager1 3 жыл бұрын
imp Midna has butt, "restored" Midna has... you know
@sweetiewolfgirl
@sweetiewolfgirl 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm... This actually makes me think.. Up until the point of, well her dying, I do think is correct, she probably did die and the light spirits revived her by embuing their light into her. This is supported by her reappearing right beside the now destroyed helm, almost symbolizing something left behind. Though just because she entered the Twilight as a being of (at least partially light since we see the shadow bugs fusing with the tears) doesn't mean she died. You see the people becomes spirits and their floating moving soul bit but when light is returned so do their bodies, as you can we with the same people doing the same tasks at the same times. Another nit pick, if the light spirits created it, you know, why can't they, I don't know, live in it or be the real rulers or something along those lines? If a prison is made by a king, the king rules it. How would that not aply here? Since the Twili can't do it, they're clearly not meant to rule it, they're just Gerudo prisoners who had their light slowly sapped away (cause a shadow is something devoid of light). And, if the light spirits made the mirror and could break it, why couldn't Midna just make a new mirror if she is now a light spirit or at least has the same abilities as such? I think she would know that, you know since she litterally housed Zeldas soul and thus the triforce of wisdom. Maybe the real reason she left was because housing Zeldas soul was what made her have her change of heart, seeing Link and Hyrule in the same way Zelda did, maybe even passing on a love for Link as is destined but knowing it was impossible. And maybe she did know of some other time she'd see the Hylias knight once again, just not that link since she's already dead and will stay as a spirit for however long. Another support to light being able to stay in the Twilight is the Sol. Condensed spheres of light that prevent the cursing and decaying caused by the realm itself and able to infuse certain objects (such as the master sword). Meaning that light was meant to be in the realm or it slowly decayed. And yes I know that ganons curse caused the land to be that way but you watch the Sol cleanse the people of the Twilight without harming them, even making passage to places unreachable without it, something they point out. But we know that a light spirit can severely harm a being of shadow, as we saw happen to midna being directly exposed to a beam of light from a light spirit. Though we see midna in the same room without being harmed until the beam happens. So yeah, I don't think she died nor do I see it as a possibility, but the rest has very concrete grounds. And more concrete grounds to say she did die but was brought back and answers a whole bunch of questions, and a bunch of the answers actually fitting into the culture where the game originated. And yes, a lot of the things you see in Zelda games are related to Japanese mythology, and not really the budist kind though that's been creaping in since skyward sword, more Shinto (of which is outlawed and many of the shrines almost abandoned). I like the religion okay, way way way way better than the ones around today and... Alright I won't nerd out there, though it's incredibly fascinating and I do recommend looking into it, the creation story too, they gave names and personalities to natural forces like volcanoes and clouds and other thinks like mirrors (if you wondered where the broken mirrors and mirrors containing bits of your soul thing came frome, they're the earliest one. in fact the earliest religion despite its worshipless state, which makes it my favorite, not budism, though they're the first to include worship and the most similar to what's known today). It's really cool. Alright I'm done now
@kingdiamond9618
@kingdiamond9618 3 жыл бұрын
Ey, I agree with what you're saying. It's definitely possible she's alive. I find it fascinating that they put religion into these games too, in such a smooth way that actually works.
@thatoneguyhonk2599
@thatoneguyhonk2599 3 жыл бұрын
I read that all for some reason
@thatoneguyhonk2599
@thatoneguyhonk2599 3 жыл бұрын
Idk why It was interesting tho
@laram7818
@laram7818 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry just to add something, Shinto isn’t outlawed. All that’s been done is that they’ve attempted to separate it from state apparently, but it’s still very much a prevalent “religion”.
@DrDolan2000
@DrDolan2000 3 жыл бұрын
Way to make her departure scene more heartbreaking
@nibirbaishnabchannel2125
@nibirbaishnabchannel2125 3 жыл бұрын
no public death no acception
@CryWolf0651
@CryWolf0651 3 жыл бұрын
Based on the in game dialogue, Midna specifically states that ONLY THE TRUE LEADER OF THE TWILI can destroy the mirror, and since Zant was not the true leader, all he could do was break it into 4 large pieces; however, with Midna being the princess of twilight, heir to the throne, she is the true leader of her people, thus her being able to shatter the mirror.
@itachi93674
@itachi93674 3 жыл бұрын
Ikr it's so easy to understand I don't why the guy in the video made this so complicated
@olivergaither
@olivergaither 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think she’s dead. I think the light spirits revived her and made her immune to the effects of being in the world of light. The quote can be explained with the fact that the twilight mirror was broken, meaning there is no way for her to return to Hyrule. In order for her to return they’d have to either come up with a totally new method and retcon part of twilight princess
@juanmanuelcardona19
@juanmanuelcardona19 6 ай бұрын
I think down the line we could have a Twilight Princess direct sequel. I would absolutely love that. Imagine returning to the same Hyrule with improved graphics. Kakariko and the Hidden Village would be fully rebuilt and inhabited by new characters. Maybe Hidden village would be renamed to something like, say… Hateno Village? There would be new towns too, maybe Hyrule fields could be expanded
@mustacheman529
@mustacheman529 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty interesting theory. But would the Light Spirits even have the power to turn another into a Light Spirit?
@emmaspencer4586
@emmaspencer4586 3 жыл бұрын
Well there was originally only three light spirits(during the time that the interlopers were sealed) only for a fourth to be added. The light spirits could have created Ordona or perhaps the Goddesses did.
@Gloomdrake
@Gloomdrake 3 жыл бұрын
Hard to say. Not enough data
@mustacheman529
@mustacheman529 3 жыл бұрын
@@emmaspencer4586 Really? Where is this info ingame?
@Bobb11881
@Bobb11881 3 жыл бұрын
@@mustacheman529 Lanayru's acid-trip cutscene with the blank-eyed Links.
@mustacheman529
@mustacheman529 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bobb11881 Just watched it, and there are only three Light Spirits there. Nice find.
@lowesgameing2003
@lowesgameing2003 3 жыл бұрын
Twilight princess was my very first Zelda game this is going to be fun
@starleo64
@starleo64 3 жыл бұрын
I love this theory, even if it will make that scene even sadder when I replay Twilight Princess again 🥺
@zar-cough448
@zar-cough448 3 жыл бұрын
I really want wind waker, twighlight princess, and skyward sword to come to switch. I skipped wii u so I need to play these games
@zar-cough448
@zar-cough448 3 жыл бұрын
@Carlos Vigil Yes, but it was rarely played on, like a relic from the past.
@stpidstuff
@stpidstuff 3 жыл бұрын
@@zar-cough448 you can play all those games on it of you have an OG Wii because the OG Wii can play GCN games
@malvulable4351
@malvulable4351 3 жыл бұрын
yeah, the 35th anniversary is coming up so I'd keep an eye out
@shivanshmishra7992
@shivanshmishra7992 3 жыл бұрын
Use emulators😑
@doublemonkey4833
@doublemonkey4833 3 жыл бұрын
@Megan Zalenski "both Twilight Princess and Skyward sword on the systems they were born to be on" We'll uh....just ignore that TP was made for the GC and ported to the Wii... :P
@UndercoverNoodle
@UndercoverNoodle 3 жыл бұрын
Wasn't expecting the feels. I never thought the ending like that before. Sad, but heroic.
@aaronolson6736
@aaronolson6736 3 жыл бұрын
It's hard to say whether she died or not. It wasn't the Twilight Realm itself transforming Link, rather a curse of shadows from the Twilight. However simply existing in the Twilight Realm might be a different case for a Light Spirit. who knows, maybe upon arriving Midna transformed into some kind of animal like the Light Spirits in Hyrule.
@NueKaminari5
@NueKaminari5 3 жыл бұрын
As much as this theory makes a lot of sense, my heart actually hurts thinking about it.
@Shotnthdark
@Shotnthdark 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t worry because the theory doesn’t make sense, light dwellers can survive in twilight. Otherwise the interlopers would have died as soon as they were imprisoned.
@NueKaminari5
@NueKaminari5 3 жыл бұрын
@@Shotnthdark Well, yes, and you bring up a valid point, but, if I may: Link may have been light himself, but not all light like the Spirits. He's tasked as the champion aside from being a mortal that can traverse different plains, which isn't anything new, but his soul is of pure intentions, basically lighthearted. That and he's basically protected by the Triforce of Courage. The interlopers were beings of the light world, but their actions consisted of dark intent, making them able to hold themselves in the light realm before being banished into the Realm of Twilight, where they thrived and adapted, being unable to even hold themselves into the light. As displayed in the game, we've seen how the Twili are when it comes to being in the light world, mainly Midna, and as displayed, she was basically set into a world of pain, becoming of being wounded by the light. Fast forward to when she had Zelda's Triforce, which basically helped in Midnas process into being used to the light world since she even stood with Link when he pulled out the Master Sword and was fine by even that blade's light, Midna was influenced by Zelda's light, allowing her the ability to still traverse the way she did in between realms. After even leaving the Twilight Realm with Zant defeated, going back to Hyrule Castle (still with Zelda's Triforce), it still pretty much helped Midna with gaining more of the light. Then, after the confrontation with Ganon Possessed Zelda, Midna basically had enough light to consider herself a being of light from the land of Twilight, which would seem unorthodox as it sounds, I know, yet when the Triforce left Midna and back into Zelda after getting her back and Midna sacrificed herself to take on Ganondorf alone and perished, who else but the Light Spirits whom she too helped save with Link was brought back to life by their magic. The very magic with a powerful influence of their light that's enough to cleanse the darkness of someone, making the Twilight Princess into someone being a holder of pure light, the same light that can't really be seen in th Twilight. Midna basically became a Spirit of Light that still wanted to return to the realm she fought so hard for, to only be destroyed by it. The Light Spirits can't enter the Twilight atmosphere hence why they had to be saved to be seen in the Realm of Light, exactly why we can't see them until after defeating the Twilit spell in the area. Once they appeared, the Twilight atmosphere around them fades, but that's also because they're a LOT bigger than Midna and blessed by Hylia themselves, so their influence was greater than her own. Now, if you're a Light Spirit entering a realm of Twilight and your light isn't strong enough, wouldn't it just make you disappear in a world where darkness is much more potent than light? Being a person from the light world wouldn't be entirely the same as being a person that's made entirely of light like the Spirits. That's pretty much my take of why I thought it made sense because of Zelda's Triforce being an influence to give Midna, a being of Twilight, the light that could last in many realms, but once it left Midna, the Triforce's influence was gone, but the influence of that light, of helping those in need, never left.
@Bobb11881
@Bobb11881 3 жыл бұрын
@@Shotnthdark The theory doesn't just claim that Midna is a being of light, it claims that she is a Light Spirit. That is why it says she cannot survive in Twilight. Therefore, the theory makes sense.
@Shotnthdark
@Shotnthdark 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bobb11881 Okay, I wasn't expecting such verbose response up there, but you're mistaken in thinking that light spirits die in twilight. It's the reverse, when light spirits are beaten then twilight appears, not twilight appears so the light spirits are beaten. Besides that, the mirror would need to be broken by the ruler of the twili because it's made of twili magic, not light spirit magic. Light magic wouldn't turn creatures that touch it into monsters and have a corrupting influence. Therefore there's no indication Midna was ever a light spirit.
@Bobb11881
@Bobb11881 3 жыл бұрын
@@Shotnthdark It doesn't make logical sense for the defeat of the Light Spirits to bring the twilight. Why would Light Spirits be necessary to keep the light realm in the light? Also, why would the mirror be Twili magic? First of all, the Twili didn't exist when it was made. Second, it was made to banish the ancestors of the Twili. Why would they banish them with their own magic? The interlopers would easily have been able to counter it.
@Kai-rg4kb
@Kai-rg4kb 3 жыл бұрын
#stormnintendo. Wear stone masks, they can’t see us like that
@slabofbeef7104
@slabofbeef7104 3 жыл бұрын
No. I don't want to become a vampire.
@AcidArrestB
@AcidArrestB 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll bring my bow
@Kai-rg4kb
@Kai-rg4kb 3 жыл бұрын
@@slabofbeef7104 is that a JOJO REFERENCE
@MichaelTmusicAndCompositions
@MichaelTmusicAndCompositions 3 жыл бұрын
I give up on my humanity, Jojoooooo! 🤦🏽‍♂️🧛🏽‍♂️
@slabofbeef7104
@slabofbeef7104 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kai-rg4kb YES! YES! YES! YES! *YES!*
@briofhyrule
@briofhyrule 3 жыл бұрын
This actually makes a heck of a lot of sense
@andrewnelson7205
@andrewnelson7205 3 жыл бұрын
Bri of hyrule: it does, but means we won't see midna ever again.😭
@briofhyrule
@briofhyrule 3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewnelson7205 I’m ok with that. I really liked Midna however like Aonuma kind of insinuated that story has been done and told.
@carols.8103
@carols.8103 3 жыл бұрын
@@briofhyrule lowkey hoping that there's a legit tie between the zonai & interlopers/twili so even if we don't see "our" Midna maybe a descendant of hers (potentially also named Midna bc that's how this franchise rolls) could show up as an NPC somewhere in BoTW2
@briofhyrule
@briofhyrule 3 жыл бұрын
@@carols.8103 interesting thought!
@therubyardvaark12
@therubyardvaark12 3 жыл бұрын
What if she "brought light" to the twilight realm. Since the mirror was created for banishment, maybe the twilight realm wasn't created until the mirror was. So maybe she transformed the twilight realm into something less "twilight".
@danieljensen2626
@danieljensen2626 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like her emotions at the end are just as easily explained as her caring about Link and Zelda but knowing she's about to leave and never see them again.
@chuckmann7127
@chuckmann7127 3 жыл бұрын
She could also be a unique hybrid that can exist in both the light and twilight worlds. The power of light she now possesses could then be used to substitute the light of the sols that were absorbed into the Master Sword during the game.
@garetstansbury9815
@garetstansbury9815 3 жыл бұрын
I didn’t sign up for this feels trip
@maddiejordan5703
@maddiejordan5703 3 жыл бұрын
I really like the idea about a prophecy that Midna fulfills, however, I don't think she dies in the end. In the context of a prophecy, this could be a way for the twili (aka the descendants of the interlopers) to slowly return to the world of light. A new "sol" (Midna) would enter the twili, bringing hope and a future to the twili people. In the twilight world, the sols were the power sources for the world and they could revert the people from Ganon/Zant's corrupted forms. Since Midna is the destined ruler of the twili, she would also be the twili people's future. By bringing back what she learned in the light and what the spirits offered her, this could be the spirits' way of giving the twili a second chance. In the game, the twili did not even bother Link once the sols were close enough to them, even when he didn't have them yet. They kind of stood there, seemingly empty. The twili are not the same people as the original interlopers, they just have to deal with living in their ancestors' shadow (pun intended). Perhaps by destroying the mirror, Midna is trying to destroy the past and pave a new path for the future, one where she would one day bring her people back into the world of light, or at least have a more unified connection rather than connected to a past of shame. In the future, maybe Link will learn of the new method to enter the Twilight Realm and it will look drastically different, all because of the spirits and most of all, Midna. Midna at the end scene may be distracted because she is thinking about all she may have to do when she returns home, but knowing that the people of the light, in this case Zelda and Link, are with her and not against her, she knows that she will never be alone and one day she will see them again.
@slevinkelevra7518
@slevinkelevra7518 3 жыл бұрын
"The mirror bears no resemblance to the triforce in design" *Immediately cuts to a shot of the mirror with the triforce sitting in the center of it*
@tamorcetold
@tamorcetold 3 жыл бұрын
yes
@3111luke
@3111luke 3 жыл бұрын
Thats what i thought
@emmaspencer4586
@emmaspencer4586 3 жыл бұрын
Same here. I mean, I've never heard of the rule that the gods can only create stuff in triangular shapes. If that were the case the entire world would be shaped like a triangle. The Goddesses themselves likely made it.
@jimmyx18f
@jimmyx18f 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t read any Zelda theory websites, but has anyone brought up that the design of Midna’s sleeves have similarities to the arm in the BOTW2 teaser? Not totally the same, but imagine cutting along the lines on her sleeves and folding them into the air from their base. Looks similar to those golden arm decorations.
@theprimordialbean2155
@theprimordialbean2155 Жыл бұрын
One detail that I would like to add in order to support the theory of the Light Spirits resurrecting her is the fact that even though we saw Ganondorf crush the Midna’s Fused Shadow headpiece in his hands, we see it back on her head in the distance as the Light Spirits crowd around her.
@stinky1245
@stinky1245 3 жыл бұрын
I never really seen any twilight Theories on KZfaq, this is exciting!
@stinky1245
@stinky1245 3 жыл бұрын
I think that kinda is still alive in the twilght
@MichaelTmusicAndCompositions
@MichaelTmusicAndCompositions 3 жыл бұрын
@@stinky1245 I'm sure she lives in our hearts... :')
@natalietrimmer4658
@natalietrimmer4658 3 жыл бұрын
I love that somebody dislikes the video and hasn’t even seen it.
@stinky1245
@stinky1245 3 жыл бұрын
Ikr ppl are kinda toxic now
@kaig.-s.1040
@kaig.-s.1040 3 жыл бұрын
Do you really?
@kcfriday5801
@kcfriday5801 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe their not patient.
@juniversevi5890
@juniversevi5890 3 жыл бұрын
"Shares no resemblance or design or this mysterious mirror" -Cuts to a clear shot of the triforce on the mirror of twilight I know what you meant, but sheesh...
@ChriseanMcInnis
@ChriseanMcInnis 3 жыл бұрын
I'm going to go home, rewatch this video and take a shot every time you say 'light'
@BanditGames
@BanditGames 3 жыл бұрын
Good luck!! lol
@matthewtrimberger9343
@matthewtrimberger9343 3 жыл бұрын
Does "Twilight" count towards that?
@acidrosie5976
@acidrosie5976 3 жыл бұрын
I think this reaches a bit too far for what seems an artistic choice for a final farewell for the character however this theory is still well articulated enough that I can see it being plausible if they decided to go that way so I can respect it, great job on the theory man.
@MartKart8
@MartKart8 3 жыл бұрын
There needs to be a four swords series of videos.
@tiredhippo82
@tiredhippo82 5 ай бұрын
“A being of twilight cannot exist in the light” except zant…and the shadow creatures who seem to be fine. Also in the twilight realm all the people don’t die, they are just scared and uncomfortable. Being in the other realm doesn’t kill you it’s more akin to an intense allergic reaction
@K0RRAI
@K0RRAI 3 жыл бұрын
TP was my first zelda game. I've played it so many times, and each time, I ball my eyes out at the ending.
@lolsomebody
@lolsomebody 3 жыл бұрын
Lol someone really disliked the video 60+ minutes before anyone seen it 🤣 get outta here zant
@Matthew10950
@Matthew10950 3 жыл бұрын
I liked it an hour early. Am I scum too?
@ThunderGun2
@ThunderGun2 3 жыл бұрын
Now there are 2 dislikes as of this reply.
@awendigowithinternetaccess4400
@awendigowithinternetaccess4400 3 жыл бұрын
Zant did nothing wrong dammit.
@Pyro04
@Pyro04 3 жыл бұрын
maybe she has the power of light and twilight and DID end up surviving
@catiebug1011
@catiebug1011 Жыл бұрын
This theory tore me to bits. TO BITS!! Considering all of these resemblances.. how Midna could have been resurrected by the light spirits, shedding a tear of light, how that could even be possible, and why she destroyed the mirror... all the loose threads ive always wondered about tie in together perfectly. I mean, who's really to say what the true meaning of the ending was. But this theory was SO well thought through. Awesome work!!! ... now brb im cry for a bit
@davidtosh7200
@davidtosh7200 3 жыл бұрын
I feel bad about the Water symbol is missing the top right section of the medallion, so Ganandorf killed the Water Sage after Link did completed the Arbiter's Ground and obtaining the first of 4 shards of the broken mirror. Coming up: Snowy Mountain Heights, Sacred Forest Grove, and the Sky to search for three remaining shards to fix the mirror to the original state.
@mohammedshweikany6766
@mohammedshweikany6766 3 жыл бұрын
no i belive that this theory is way too far fetched because even the game developers said that if the fans want they will bring her back
@Incarosster
@Incarosster 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that he tried to use her destroying the mirror as a base for this theory is flawed. He showed this RIGHT AFTER MIDNA SAID ONLY THE TRUE LEADER COULD DESTROY THE MIRROR. MIDNA IS THE TRUE RULER.
@Bobb11881
@Bobb11881 3 жыл бұрын
@@Incarosster You must have ignored roughly half the video. He clearly acknowledged that fact and then re-contextualized it as a prophecy rather than an innate ability the ruler of the Twilight Realm has, because it would make no sense for the people being banished to be able to destroy the tool of their own banishment. And as for what you said, lord EXO, they bring back characters all the time, like Link, Zelda, Beedle, Tingle, etc. Does that mean they all survive the long periods between games? Of course not. They're reincarnations. If they bring Midna back, there's no guarantee that it would be the same Midna.
@jacintacapelety9600
@jacintacapelety9600 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bobb11881 Beedle and Tingle always seemed more like running gags than proper, story-canon reincarnations to me.
@Bobb11881
@Bobb11881 3 жыл бұрын
@@jacintacapelety9600 I think Arlo of all people made a theory that explains why they keep showing up.
@MichaelTmusicAndCompositions
@MichaelTmusicAndCompositions 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not crying, who's crying? 🥲😂😂 Stupid ninjas cutting onions...
@MidnaNarof
@MidnaNarof 3 жыл бұрын
Lloremos juntos, por favor ;-------;
@MichaelTmusicAndCompositions
@MichaelTmusicAndCompositions 3 жыл бұрын
Iremos a llorar miles jajajaja pobre Midna. :')
@randyhouse3048
@randyhouse3048 3 жыл бұрын
ive been obsessed with this game since i was a child and i cant believe i never considered this, or noticed that she shed a tear of light, or dissolved into light, OR that the light spirits suspiciously brought her back. wow
@endlesswonder__
@endlesswonder__ 3 жыл бұрын
BAAANGER! Loving this one so far dude, I've always been a big fan of Twilight Princess, it was my third ever Zelda Game actually. Sometimes I even come up with my own lil theories in my head, lmao. I always had a feeling there was something a bit deeper as to why Midna broke the mirror.
@pixelpunchyt
@pixelpunchyt 3 жыл бұрын
Midna has more character development in one game than Rey ever had in 3 movies
@jikoai8709
@jikoai8709 3 жыл бұрын
FOR REALL
@yourdoggo2298
@yourdoggo2298 3 жыл бұрын
Never thought i would see this comment here 😂😂
@UnfaithfulSalmon
@UnfaithfulSalmon 3 жыл бұрын
TRUE
@acro6841
@acro6841 3 жыл бұрын
i want this to be accepted as fact. this has amazing evidence and strong connections, that i don’t see how this can’t happen.
@shawneeherrera4755
@shawneeherrera4755 3 жыл бұрын
I just want to say thank you for your videos and that you're doing great work. I always look forward to your videos just because they bring the serotonin I need in my life lol. Anywho, I'm excited to see what you work on next!!!
@Ylurple
@Ylurple 3 жыл бұрын
the editing in this video is hilarious. the explosion of the mirror, the surprised pikachu interloper, ganon cloud with a gun
@kidwuulf5692
@kidwuulf5692 3 жыл бұрын
Light spirits: Here! We resurrected you! :) **Midna suicides** Light Spirits: °^°
@windhunter7
@windhunter7 3 жыл бұрын
This is why fangames are important, for when Nintendo doesn't go with the fan requests for a characters return
@Kaempfdog
@Kaempfdog 3 жыл бұрын
The fascinating thing about your theory is that Midna would be alive in the Twilight. As the Light Spirits dwelled in twilight when they were torn apart but were unable to shed their light on the world, being invisible. So her return to the twilight realm could’ve A. Meant her disappearance and she wouldn’t be able to materialize and show her body, or B. she brought light to the twilight. Purifying her people. What if it was the mirror that prevented the twili from existing in the world of light? All possibilities. The world would still be devoid of a lot of life anyways as the tribe was so small, but it would possibly lead them to eventually be connected to the world of light in true form. And they become the Zonai. She did say see you later. What if the mirror was just a way of severing an actual part of the world off from itself creating its own dimension of sorts? We’ve seen the horrific effects the mirror has on anything within its proximity.
@mitchellradspinner4491
@mitchellradspinner4491 3 жыл бұрын
“Shares no design” it has the literal triforce symbol in the mirror XD
@Lemuel928
@Lemuel928 3 жыл бұрын
Midna cannot die if she was reborn with also the Triforce of Power..
@MediaDukart
@MediaDukart 3 жыл бұрын
Listen, HOW DARE YOU play Queen Rutela’s theme and Midna’s Lament back to back 😭😭😭
@nibirbaishnabchannel2125
@nibirbaishnabchannel2125 3 жыл бұрын
really?
@ForgedinPrint
@ForgedinPrint 3 жыл бұрын
Something to consider is maybe the light spirits had made light hurt them as a way to minimize attempts to gain the triforce, since you know it'd make it very difficult for the twilight to fight the light spirits now. Among fighting armies during the day.
@spadezap9728
@spadezap9728 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, this blew my mind. i did not think of much with the tear, but there was so much to it.
@Zxandro
@Zxandro 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@justinbonnette8627
@justinbonnette8627 3 жыл бұрын
I believe she’s still alive. U never brought up the twilight mirror in BOTW though
@mustacheman529
@mustacheman529 3 жыл бұрын
It isn't the Mirror of Twilight, just something that looks similar.
@stpidstuff
@stpidstuff 3 жыл бұрын
@@mustacheman529 could be a similar relic or something
@billbertboyce324
@billbertboyce324 3 жыл бұрын
@@mustacheman529 I think that it's just a reference
@magicat9705
@magicat9705 3 жыл бұрын
Bro, when I first beat the game and saw the final scene I started crying and dreamt of ways to have Midna back for weeks
@vanolrich
@vanolrich 3 жыл бұрын
That... was a very good theory! Your arguments are nicely researched and explained. Good job!
@MidnaNarof
@MidnaNarof 3 жыл бұрын
POR QUÉ ESTOY SUDANDO POR LOS OJOS AAAAAH ;-----; I'M CRYING A LOT, HALP ;-;
@MichaelTmusicAndCompositions
@MichaelTmusicAndCompositions 3 жыл бұрын
Ninjas cortando cebollas everywhere brooo. 😅
@MidnaNarof
@MidnaNarof 3 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelTmusicAndCompositions quiero a la waifu de vuelta, that's the dream ;-;
@moragolo
@moragolo 3 жыл бұрын
The people who disliked were to blinded by tears to hit the like button.
@lordseelenfresserdemonking1168
@lordseelenfresserdemonking1168 Жыл бұрын
"*the mirror can't be shattered*" Sages: only the true leader of the twilight can destroy it Midna: imma do whats called a pro gamer move
@Tokio177
@Tokio177 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, my bro!
@splooshkaboom1983
@splooshkaboom1983 3 жыл бұрын
everybody subscribe, I'm always shocked how little subscribers he has
@ryanshearer4527
@ryanshearer4527 3 жыл бұрын
Why not do a theory on if crossbreeding in the Zelda universe is possible or not? 👀
@pilzjager
@pilzjager 3 жыл бұрын
bruh
@GANONdork123
@GANONdork123 3 жыл бұрын
Go to horny jail
@MoonlitWenny
@MoonlitWenny 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting theory! I do wonder now if the other Twili people returned to normal when Zant died, because it's possible that if Midna DID become a light spirit, that was necessary to fix/save her people. Alternate theory: If the Light Spirits come from Hylia instead of the Golden Trio, it's possible they saved Midna specifically because of how distraught Link and Zelda were about her death, but that still wouldn't explain the whole "wasn't dying from the sun anymore" thing BABY COME BACK
@reptile1840
@reptile1840 Жыл бұрын
I like to think that the reason all of that happened, her fading away like she did, being able to walk freely in the daylight, and being able to be in the presence of the light spirits without almost dying is because they blessed her with allowing her to do that
@LordBani
@LordBani 3 жыл бұрын
Or she just transformed the twilight realm into a world of light
@svenando99
@svenando99 3 жыл бұрын
MNB: "Midna sheds a Tear of Light™️" Me: * homosexual gasp *
@TheWither129
@TheWither129 3 жыл бұрын
???
@malachichampion
@malachichampion 3 жыл бұрын
Welp I cried a lot this time around. Well done, mnb
@evalynbaun6672
@evalynbaun6672 3 жыл бұрын
I’m still hoping for a TP sequel. Great theory, I’d totally love to see more TP theories!
@abnormalmeatball
@abnormalmeatball 3 жыл бұрын
Claim your before 100 comments ticket here
@awendigowithinternetaccess4400
@awendigowithinternetaccess4400 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you my good Sir.
@someoneelse2069
@someoneelse2069 3 жыл бұрын
This might be one of my favorite theory! :D I also really enjoyed the source of malice video! :D
@tamorcetold
@tamorcetold 3 жыл бұрын
MaskedNintendoBandit: The Triforce shares no resemblance in design or material to the Mirror of Twilight. Mirror of Twilight: has the Triforce symbol as a centerpiece in the middle!
@scarletknightreterns1893
@scarletknightreterns1893 3 жыл бұрын
I love Midna so much, that this threw me into a major depression aaaaaa
@pneuma5533
@pneuma5533 3 жыл бұрын
Your humor is the most priceless thing on the internet
@gamesmore-moonlight946
@gamesmore-moonlight946 3 жыл бұрын
Wait wait, I just realized, the Ganon Face like thing reminded me of the essence of Calamity Ganon... Hmm...
@shaunjackson6293
@shaunjackson6293 Жыл бұрын
I wasn't thinking about it too deeply until now. Next game I play I will really make sure I pay attention
@demonman905
@demonman905 3 жыл бұрын
3:17 "Bears no resemblance to the Triforce" > Shows the mirror in full view that has a Triforce dead center in the mirror
@grimwallflower
@grimwallflower Жыл бұрын
With the recent announcement of Tears of the Kingdom, I’m really excited to see if Midna returns.
@Faereiy
@Faereiy Жыл бұрын
I know this is old, but I feel this is why the new Zelda game tears of the kingdom is being released now. Midna is somehow coming back in the new release through “tears” of light
@Just.feral.
@Just.feral. 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome theory!!!!!! I'm so happy you brought her back!
@waddlepikmin227
@waddlepikmin227 3 жыл бұрын
Something to add; when Link uses the Mirror of Twilight, he doesn’t transform into a wolf immediately. His protection by the Triforce truns him into a wolf when he is forcefully pulled past the curtain of Twilight, essentially trying to break through a barrier. However, due to a lack of immediate transformation, I think it’s safe to say that the Mirror of Light is a safe passageway for beings of light to enter the Twilight Realm? This would simply have Midna’s sad tone boiled down to her decision to never again see the friends that saved her life, and would mean Midna safely returns to her home as a being of light, while still holding some amount of her darker Twili nature. Then again, I’m just a huge Midna fan who doesn’t want her dead, so perhaps I missed something?
@dorianabyssal535
@dorianabyssal535 3 жыл бұрын
Bro, nice video. I also suspect a lot of things with this, but i couldn't put in to words. Thanks.
@siriulrich5875
@siriulrich5875 2 жыл бұрын
2:11 is sort of like a reference towards that conversation between her and Link. it’s saying that even tho it might be hard for her to go back to her people, she’s still their TRUE leader. hence why she could shatter the mirror
@spacecadetlostintransit
@spacecadetlostintransit 3 жыл бұрын
1:36 idk how u do it...but ur theories go from wild to ‘damn...what if?’
@user-xm5jx9nc7e
@user-xm5jx9nc7e Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this and everything you do!! I’m a relatively casual zelda player but your content makes me want to buy every single game and play them!!
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