Massive Klon Clone Shootout! TC, MXR, Warm Audio, Wampler, Nux, EHX...

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Massive Klon Clone Shootout! TC, MXR, Warm Audio, Wampler, Nux, EHX... | Thomann

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Күн бұрын

Today Guillaume embarks on a mission to figure out which of the (many) Klon clones on the market hold up against the legendary circuit!
Gear used: tho.mn/pbusx
Recorded in Presonus Studio One: bit.ly/S1Pro6
Recorded and mixed with Universal Audio: tho.mn/uadx1
Monitors optimised through Sonarworks: tho.mn/sonar
Interesting bits and pieces:
0:00 Intro Playing
0:42 Presentation and Rig
2:33 Clean Sound
3:41 Drive Sound
4:05 Warm Audio Centavo
5:30 J.Rockett Archer
6:43 J.Rockett Archer Ikon
8:30 PRS Horsemeat
10:43 Keeley Oxblood
12:08 EHX Soulfood
13:18 NUX Horseman
14:30 Tone City Bad Horse
15:30 MXR Sugar Drive
16:40 TC Electronic Zeus Drive
17:37 Wampler Tumnus Deluxe
19:20 Impressions and Conclusion
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@dickranmarsupial4911 Жыл бұрын

Brillant! A proper comparison, same guitar, same tunes. So rare!!!

@Sui778 Жыл бұрын

I have the TC Electronic Zeus and I really like it. Pretty cool that you can get a good bit of the low end definition back with the FAT switch, unlike most of the other low cost Klones. Having the choice of thinner or fatter is what sold me on it.

@fraenkiboii Жыл бұрын

My search for THE klone ended with the following two contenders: Ceriatone vs. RYRA. I built the Centura from a kit. But at the end I liked the RYRA more, which I couldn’t believe. So I started to buy diodes, which lead me into a rabbit hole inside a rabbit hole. I found diodes I love. They’re just not in the pedal you’d expect. I ended up modding the RYRA with the diodes I like and sold the Centura. Didnt expect that to happen. But then I decided to come out of the rabbit hole and play guitar. 😂

@DSilvergun Жыл бұрын

The search never ends...

@JasonGutierrez Жыл бұрын

So which diodes did you like best?

@fraenkiboii Жыл бұрын

@@JasonGutierrez D9E

@The_Native_Dasher Жыл бұрын

You should try the archer where you can change between different diodes.

@fraenkiboii Жыл бұрын

@@The_Native_Dasher meh

@StephaneBergeronPixelyzed Жыл бұрын

Great video Guillaume! If one wants as close to a Klon as possible in the pedals here, the first 3 would be it IMO. I myself chose the Tumnus Deluxe and I love it! I push my Revv G2 pedal with it and it sounds amazing and I can give it back a little bass. As an OD, with gain at 3 o'clock and the hot switch on, it's barky cuts through a mix like crazy. Best klone for me! Thanks!

@josearjona3728 Жыл бұрын

Nice! This video is gonna be super helpful to me, thank you so much!!

@spenky Жыл бұрын

I love the formfactor of the Zeus. I hope we get more pedals this size with top mounted jacks. I never liked how clunky the mini pedals with the side jacks are and how you needed more space on the pedalboard for the jacks than for the pedals.

@SomeKindOfMadman Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the demo. I personally use the TC Zeus, it was very affordable as well.

@dickgitaar2012 Жыл бұрын

Zeus is OK, but fat mode always on here..

@joguipo Жыл бұрын

Nice one man! It's the Archer for me... Although the Sugar Drive really got me going too.

@BioHazardBHZ Жыл бұрын

Sweet comparison G! Centavo is unbelievably good

@Treadplate367 Жыл бұрын

Great video! New to the Klone game, but I got a Tone Bakery Creme de la Creme, which has a second footswitch to turn the gain off/on. I am VERY happy with it. The Creme Brûlée is their straight Klone. Can be had used for pretty cheap.

@nicolas.grisanti Жыл бұрын

Great video! To me every pedal was really good, is a matter of taste if you want a really close Klon or a more modern or different take on the pedal. I have the J Rockett Ikon for almost 2 years, and i love it! Is a warm and full sound, and it sounds amazing with other pedals. I don't know if is faithfull to the original Klon, but it sound amazing.

@pinguiblues Жыл бұрын

Nice test bro🎉

@greatsouthernpansy Жыл бұрын

I've actually owned Tone City Bad Horse for a while and I quite liked it. They have few really good pedals (Wild Fro and Durple are great drives). However I also had an opportunity to compare it to The Great Missing in this comparison - Joyo Tauren and while very similar soundwise, they differed in feel - Joyo felt a bit more "organic" and less "stiff". At this pricepoint both are really good options to scratch the Klon itch IMO ;)

@quiksilver78 Жыл бұрын

I liked the warm audio the best; that is UNTIL the Tone City Bad Horse came on matched the sound of the WA Centavo. Impressive. Getting a Bad Horse now!

@danielmurilloguitar6974 16 күн бұрын

Warm Audio Centavo amazing !!!

@Strato13 3 ай бұрын

The Klon clones all sound beautiful. I have a mini one called a "Golden Horse", as well as one that is literally identical to the real Klon down to the type of resistors, wiring, and even the casing color, size, and centaur emblem on it, and sounds vastly different than my mini klone clone. Great tone, and playing!

@ArvidNielsen Жыл бұрын

Super great how you repeat the same phrases. Would love to have the audio examples - pedal to clean/pedal to push - back to back, and then maybe your very relevant comments at the end (maybe with a shot in frame of the resp. pedals - you guys are so good at that). Would make it easier for me, at least.

@miks-dk Жыл бұрын

Really wish that Thomann would make similar videos on pedals, preamps and so on for bass as well.

@endezeichengrimm Жыл бұрын

Don't they? They have that girl Julia for that.

@chadwickhurlburt6529 Жыл бұрын

Seems to me that there may be a minor difference between one and the other, but it really doesn't matter much. In the end, if you are using this as a part of your individual sound, any of them can be workable and create a good tone. One tone vs. the other won't make enough difference to move the stars. In the end, you are the one playing, not the pedal. I use a Sweet Honey Overdrive, not listed in this shootout. It isn't a Klon clone. I like it better than all of these pedals. It has an adjustable dynamics that effects the amount of gain applied depending on what part of the sound-range you are playing in. Play higher registers, more gain. Play lower registers, less gain. It's all adjustable for how you like it. A feature I like quite a lot. Plus, if I stack it with another drive, OMG! Folks, there are alternatives.

@deplinenoise Жыл бұрын

Great video! Would have been great with a quick A-B through all the pedals in review to hear the same lick quickly.

@BlingFreeJ Жыл бұрын

I use the Bass Soul Food on both guitar and bass. It's my fave.

@Morrison9155 Жыл бұрын

Vs the klon (that I played 5 years ago at Carter’s in the amp room with other people playing on the other side of the wall), the silver archer is a 1 to 1 in feel and sound, so I bought one

@lennydl 11 ай бұрын

Warm Audio for me, the most pleasing sounding and balanced of them all

@Margilio5150 Жыл бұрын

I use the Klone emulation on my HX Stomp, I think it sounds good

@GuitarBailey Жыл бұрын

The tc electronic zeus is great I love it I use it in its fat mode all knows at noon almost and push a ehx glove at low gain and it slides into a great 80s hair metal gain territories.

@kcarl3328 Жыл бұрын

The Centavo rocks!

@sparkyguitar0058 Жыл бұрын

1 you missed is the JHS modded Soul food. My is a homebuilt kit of this and I got it used for $83 yrs ago. Pedal size has some to do with pedal choice. But sound is obvious the 1st choice and this 1 has never let me down.

@MrJackrockerman Жыл бұрын

Damn..that TC Zeus sounds so natural..

@gobodega5226 Жыл бұрын

Hello everyone, can someone please help me: who did the 2nd riff with the overdrive sound come from? Thank you in advance , Guillaume

@DSilvergun Жыл бұрын

So which do you like best and why?

@pjlcc14 10 ай бұрын

Really like the overall tone of the Warn Audio Centavo

@hailmaryrecordings8255 Жыл бұрын

After a year of shopping for a Klon-clone, I went with a Way Huge “Conspiracy Theory” and I love it stacked with an OD-3.

@sch2412 Жыл бұрын

same. i even have 2 of them on my board. sad that they were not in stock at the time of filming

@hailmaryrecordings8255 Жыл бұрын

@@sch2412 I think Way Huge has had some production-issues due to the pandemic. I was lucky to find the one I bought at a decent price.

@PooNinja Жыл бұрын

I’m happy with my NUX , it’s my always on betterizer

@coldwar1977 Ай бұрын

Centavo 😍

@MrJingles021 Жыл бұрын

I use the MXR Sugar Drive. I love it. But most are so similar, you can do the job with any of them. You'd only have to consider the ones that don't cut bass.

@stefpenfield5918 Жыл бұрын

My favorite is the Mick side of the D&M Drive.

@thelowlifex9437 7 ай бұрын

I am using the soul food as a boost for the katana mk2 head with dual rectifier presets and it sounds huuuuuge , also in the same settings of the pedal a light breaking up clean and an orange style of crunchy sound . By using a orange style preset and a fender twin reverb preset + pedal in front of the amp with hb212v30 cab It is amazing

@DougMen1 7 ай бұрын

The Tone City Bad Horse has been around for at least 8 years, judging by the YT videos featuring it, a LOT longer than the NUX, which is only about a year old.

@CorNigrum Жыл бұрын

Seems to me your riff stands out more than the sound of any particular model, which is really the lesson I take away here.

@remicffgnl1180 Жыл бұрын

Pourquoi ne pas présenter la Anasound Savage? elle n'est peut-être pas à votre catalogue mais vous n'êtes pas à ça près...

@zachmiller4575 Жыл бұрын

I use the Tumnus Deluxe with my EarthQuaker plumes I like having the extra eq options on the tumnus it allows it to play nicely with any overdrive. All of these sounded great though I honestly couldn’t really tell a difference between most of them lol

@Steven-re3tx 18 күн бұрын

I enjoy my Tumnis deluxe into an Angry Charlie V2. I also run them both alone. My 3rd stage after those two are an Empress Heavy Menace.

@CentaurusRelax314 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this. I have the Zeus, but didn't love it here. Seemed to have less gain than the others(?). The silver Archer was the best. Somehow, it had more 'harmonic nuance' than the others, unless that was just from variance in how you played those doublestops..... Hard to know, but it still has me paranoid and considering spending the money on it, just to get that 3% difference..... Ughhh.....

@S_Bellew Ай бұрын

The Zeus has gain set closer to 11 o'clock, most of the others have it closer one.

@123Ir0nman Жыл бұрын

I just use a $20 Mosky Golden horse, and it does all the klon stuff well

@ThomannsGuitarsBasses Жыл бұрын

Sounds awesome :) Never had the chance to try this one myself. //G

@123Ir0nman Жыл бұрын

@Thomann's Guitars & Basses I recommend trying one out! Very low risk investment lol!

@TheElrondo Жыл бұрын

Paul R.S. stated on every interview and demonstration the Horse Meat isn't based on the Klon. So who is right?

@cedricdemeulenaere2337 Жыл бұрын

J'ai une anasound "la grosse" . et en plus c'est fabriqué en France :)

@MikePerf0 Жыл бұрын

Light dirt sounds like light dirt

@sjoerdfeenstra010 Жыл бұрын

I love my ehx soul food. There is a video on KZfaq somebody is comparing it with a real klon and really could not hear the difference with really good headphones. The trick is to don't set the knobs the same because of the difference in tolerance in the pots so tweak them till they sound the same. Bought it second hand for 30 euros way better price than 5000 for a original one 🥴😂

@stormyweather2837 Жыл бұрын

I thought the soul food sounded really good to I might get that one 🤔 .. I'm gonna try to find the video you talk about first. Cheers 🙂!!

@andrescalamaro4494 28 күн бұрын

Got Ceriatone % Warm Audio ... Thinking on using on-a-stack together or with a TS in the middle on the chain. Waiting on try the Silver J Rockett ... Server & Gold

@andrescalamaro4494 28 күн бұрын

Next gig gonna try both Ceriatone % Warm Audio .. Between Silver & Gold dunno ... go for the Silver, lil bit cleaner or different ? Who cares

@Leychen Жыл бұрын

Last Klonclone i bought was the Way Huge Conspiracy Theory, i use it for over 3 years now and it does everything i expect from an overdrive really well so i will not buy more Klonclones. I've also seen 1000Mods use that.

@bossesg1 Жыл бұрын

The Klon hype is still hard for me to understand and I'm a pedal nerd. I get why it sounds good, but it doesn't sound like it should be so much more expensive than other famous overdrives.

@Glicksman1 Жыл бұрын

On any one setting, other pedals can come very close to a Klon. However, what the Klon can do is to sound better than everything else at many different settings. Its higher gain settings are inimitable, and it's clean, slightly crunchy boost has a character that nothing else matches. There are no bad or unusable sounds in a Klon. Yeah, it's ridiculously expensive, but so is a Lamborghini, a Ferrari, a Rolex, a Learjet, or a '62 Strat. You don't have to have them, but...wouldn't it be nice.

@Falconryder 8 ай бұрын

Klon's aren't expensive because their construction or design is better, they are expensive because production stopped and starved the market, and now they're collector's items. Just like a Superman #1 comic isn't any better of a story than the rest, it's just very rare, and so worth thousands of dollars to collectors. The few of these pedals I know sound awesome in all sorts of settings as well, and many go well beyond the original in what they can successfully do. I doubt 1 in 100 people who think the Klon is superior would be able to tell it apart from half these clones in a blindfolded test.

@Glicksman1 8 ай бұрын

@@Falconryder As it happens, the Klon Centaur is expensive because it is both rare and better than everything else at what it does. An imitation is just that. The original will always be more desirable, and accordingly, cost more.

@Falconryder 8 ай бұрын

@@Glicksman1 "better" to snobs that are emotionally attached to name brands, but again, no one will be able to tell the difference between these if they're set right, particularly in a mix, and there's videos of guitartists comparing these in "blind tests" that routinely guess wrong about which one is the actual Klon. Only desireable to snobs and collectors. Practical guitarists that are focused on sound would be happy with several of the clones. Klon is great, and if they weren't hyper-expensive unobtainium, I'd be happy to have one. But it's nothing short of stupidity to assert that they are somehow objectively better than some of these really good clones. Lots of automakers make "clones" of the internal combustion engine, that doesn't make them inferior to a Ford Model-T. For my taste the Tumnus actually sounds better than the original to me, and given the choice between the two, I'd take the Klon, then sell it for it's obscene market cost to some silly snob, and then buy a Tumnus for my own board.

@Glicksman1 8 ай бұрын

@@Falconryder Whatever works for you is what you should use. It's the music you play, not the pedals you turn on that matters.

@Glicksman1 8 ай бұрын

@@Falconryder The Klon Centaur is better at sounding like a Klon Centaur than any other pedal. Some can come close at one setting or another, but the Klon always sounds like a Klon at all settings. You dispute that? The Klon Centaur has been used by guitarists including John Mayer, Jeff Beck, Nels Cline (Wilco), George Lynch, Warren Haynes, Derek Trucks, Joe Bonamassa, Joe Perry (Aerosmith), Matt Schofield and Ed O'Brien (Radiohead), Andy Summers, James Hetfield (Metallica), Kenny Wayne Shepard, Paul McCartney, Keith Urban, John Scofield, Richie Sambora, Joh Homme, Noel Gallagher, Are they all silly snobs? You owe them and many others an apology for your ignorant, intemperate remarks.

@perrar1na Жыл бұрын

Maybe I’m wrong but consider that the gain knob on the Tc ZEUS was not at 1 oclock (maybe at 11)

@christopherdunn317 Жыл бұрын

5:15 18:56 that just beat the hell out the wamper, i own both, getting this now thank you !

@kmichaelp4508 Жыл бұрын

Howdy Bill! And where is the Tele? You know you’re going to have to get one! Why? Because Mike says so 🤣

@ThomannsGuitarsBasses Жыл бұрын

G still needs some convincing. On it. 😆 //Kris

@alainchanyuhon6004 3 ай бұрын

Salut, dommage pour la Savage mk1...

@BigEdWo Жыл бұрын

the player is good that´s why all the pedals sound good. easy as that.

@chesneytube1 Жыл бұрын

I once knew a very rich guy who claimed to have the only platinum horsey in the world… he lived in a mansion. He invited me over to hear it once but when I went the whole mansion was gone and so was he, without a trace. His name was Zipheran Baum.

@nickibozetti7970 Жыл бұрын

Was für einen Amp spielt er denn?

@nenadstojanovic6545 Жыл бұрын

I own a EHX Soul Food and I wouldn't recommend it!! The foot switch is not reliable and when switching between the buffer/true bypass one needs to wait a day, while turning it on and off all the time, before it finally starts working. Not to mention that the buffer ONLY works if you have a battery inside. Pain in the ass, sounds OK, but I'm thinking to replace it with a Sugar Drive

@markwood3389 8 ай бұрын

PRS Horsemeat sounds good to me. I don't think any of them sound exactly like the Klon, so you may as well get the one that sounds good to you.

@rogerYT69 Жыл бұрын

I like the way huge conspiracy theory and the mxr sugar drive ...not so a fan of the ehx soul food 😉

@jamiemorgan4146 Жыл бұрын

Should’ve used a” Real” Strat....

@koonsickgreen6272 2 ай бұрын

Soul Food sounds more like a TS9 with less harsh highs and a bit more mids compare to other pedals

@anthonyflores3137 9 ай бұрын

No Ceriatone Centura??

Жыл бұрын

Come on, Guillaume, loads of comparison, but no opinion. It's not really a shootout without some analysis. Which do you use? Which is your favourite? Which of the cheaper ones do you like? Even if you don't give your opinion (because Thomann doesn't want you to sway buyers), how about a couple of minutes picking out one thing you particularly liked on each unit?

@ekredel Жыл бұрын

I agree completely. This approach makes no sense to me. Either offer an opinion or use a looper and demo the pedals with no talking in between.

@frankfrank7921 Жыл бұрын

If I may speak for him, he would like you to buy all of them...from Thomann.

@ekredel Жыл бұрын

@@frankfrank7921 Me too :D

@SG-4u Жыл бұрын

Literally all of these are fine for sounding like a “Klon”, as are the other 100 versions out there. So here’s how you make a purchase decision. What you like about the Klon is it’s a hard clipper that blends your unclipped signal back in, with an EQ profile. To me the best “Klon”, since you are likely to use it near the beginning of your chain, would be one that allows you to control the blend AND the EQ. Of coarse I’m in the studio 100% of the time and some people want to just plug in and hammer away on the weekend or stage and don’t want fine tuned control. Just something to think about. Eather way forget the magic diodes.

@matzer8846 Жыл бұрын

Nice pedals, nice sounds, great demo BUT how would these boxes sound with a real guitar a Tele

@nadinecampbell3393 Жыл бұрын

Hey Guillaume, there's a problem wit your comparison relating to the settings of each pedal. You've adjusted the dials based on their location, not their function. So on some pedals you've got gain at 11, output and treble at 1, on others you've switched it around. Have a close look back over the video...

@sebastiandunbar8766 Жыл бұрын

I’ve tried a few , just eventually came to realize I’m a tube screamer guy instead

@ransombaggins9301 Жыл бұрын

Fun stuff! ALSO! I would LOVE to have the tabs for the riffs you used. As a newbie I'd love to have that in my back pocket when trying out guitars and pedals. I will work on it, but I'd also buy it! *wink wink nudge nudge*

@joesatchton212 Жыл бұрын

Guillaume: Is there a reason that you didn't use a looper pedal for this? For these kinds of "trying to hear the difference" only comparisons, where no player feel or responsiveness is factored in, why would you not use a looper pedal into each one of the contenders? A looper pedal would guarantee that whatever you play will be exactly the same into each pedal, and then you could dial each pedal as close to the "master" as you can. Then you'd really eliminate a major variable, no? Just curious why no looper pedal here....Cheers!

@ThomannsGuitarsBasses Жыл бұрын

Hey Joe, thanks for your comment! I completely agree with you and for a more scientific approach a looper makes a lot of sense. I just thought that those pedals were quite different from one another and that the feel of them sort of dictated the playing. I should however have clarified that in the video, I also wanted to see how they felt to play, and not only have a sound comparison. But we might do a round 2 of that video since a few of them were not in stock at the time, and then maybe something quicker with back to back samples of a loop :) Thanks again for watching!

@denmar355 Жыл бұрын

Round two with a loop would make a lot of sense imho.

@joesatchton212 Жыл бұрын

@@ThomannsGuitarsBasses Cheers Guillaume! Thanks for the reply. Look forward to that kind of looper thing with these comparisons. TBH, I am actually quite surprised that loopers DON'T get used much more with these kinds of tone comparison videos. Sure, much less fun for YOU lol And won't be reflective of actual feel and responsiveness of pedals, but for pure tone matching and comparisons I have to think looper pedals would be the ideal way to go. cheers!

@raymondgutierrez8941 Жыл бұрын

14:57 17:05

@kzm4275 Жыл бұрын

Pedal Monsters clone my fave. Not on your list though

@paulvanheuklom6439 Жыл бұрын

LPD Embers

@chadtindale2095 Жыл бұрын

Skip to minute 5 to get to the video in the title

@georgewilkins4231 Жыл бұрын

Too much talking and just a basic comparison what about the extra options such as the switch on the Zeus and Silver option on the NU-X Horseman??

@Siam_Thai. Жыл бұрын

😄😄😄🤭

@DadRockKid 10 ай бұрын

Horsemeat is a perfect name...It sounds dead compared to the real centaur

@jdpower6360 Жыл бұрын

Every time he says horsie a digital multi effects unit and a rodeo clown dies.

@marvinmartin3438 Жыл бұрын

My girlfriend calls me "Horse meat" Just sayin

@lordofthemound3890 Жыл бұрын

Turn off the reverb.

@seanmarkowitz4216 Жыл бұрын

Shh

@BoomerBass523 Жыл бұрын

You missed the best clone of all: the Spanish handmade Decibelics Golden Horse. You should have done a little more research.

@frankfrank7921 Жыл бұрын

He said it was based on what they have in stock at Thomann. It might pay to listen.

@twenty3electronics Жыл бұрын

Is this the comparison you would like to see? No. You would like to hear the same lick on one pedal after another back to back without talking in between each pedal. Make the demo you want to see. You have wasted thousands of hours of other people’s time

@sharp9music98 10 ай бұрын

You can put an end to being a victim of having your time horrifically wasted and instead invest your own time to present a comparison video that satisfies you and which might help others. Please notify us when you’ve finished your video.