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Master Class - Audio Mixing - 02 Drum Compression

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James Hurley gives an overview of how to mix drums for your live event audio mixes. This chapter focuses on using compressors for the full drum kit.

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@DICKTURPIN1976
@DICKTURPIN1976 7 жыл бұрын
fantastic tutorial this mate well done.. absolutely the best video I've seen on compression. Very well explained indeed! 👌
@fannyackermy1625
@fannyackermy1625 9 жыл бұрын
thank you sooo much for your great tutorial!! :)) finally opens my eyes on hard compression after more than 10 years doing it
@patrickasol2055
@patrickasol2055 6 жыл бұрын
straight to the point like you do is what we love you for. most of these online teachers will take 1 hour bragging and 10 mins teaching nothing. BRAVO john
@BhProp
@BhProp 7 жыл бұрын
This was really well done - thank you for publishing!
@RomulloMarciano
@RomulloMarciano 6 жыл бұрын
These are the most useful drum mixing videos I've watched... Thank you so much... Ready to watch the one about gates! Subscribed !!!
@TheRythmdoctor
@TheRythmdoctor 4 жыл бұрын
This is really impressive tutorial - please keep this great content coming
@DEDREP
@DEDREP 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome explanation and visual of the working effect
@yudaman231
@yudaman231 7 жыл бұрын
You, sir, are very good at your job.
@jonsmith2146
@jonsmith2146 5 жыл бұрын
all of this is so worth while thank you and carry on
@raphaelsteurer
@raphaelsteurer 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, it sounds much better than before :)
@joorchampi3346
@joorchampi3346 7 жыл бұрын
La semana pasada tuve el gusto de probar esta mesa, y sonorizar un grupo, y os aseguro que es una pasada. Muy intuitiva, proceaadores efectivos, y muy buen sonido. Poseo una Yamaha digital y esta me sorprendió muy gratamente la verdad. No descarto pillarmela tanto para el estudio como para directo. Muy bien por Behringer y Midas que han conseguido un producto de calidad a un precio del que otras marcas podrían tomar ejemplo. Y conste que no trabajo en Behringer, jeje...
@vickynkositv
@vickynkositv 8 жыл бұрын
thanks a lot sir, i really learn from you
@ryandavidshephard
@ryandavidshephard 7 жыл бұрын
Great teacher!!! Thanks!
@liovalo
@liovalo 7 жыл бұрын
Good video, thank you very much!
@moisespimentel9513
@moisespimentel9513 8 жыл бұрын
Can you give an example on how you would mix a snare and bass drum that have only one mic on each? Excellent information by the way.
@soundreinforcement4346
@soundreinforcement4346 5 жыл бұрын
YOU ARE THE BEST, THANKS.
@solidzonewavestation
@solidzonewavestation 4 жыл бұрын
Great.. Lots of hearts
@fannyackermy1625
@fannyackermy1625 9 жыл бұрын
really helpful thanks a lot!
@paulankam
@paulankam 6 жыл бұрын
thanks Dude, but want to ask how you were able to link two separate input channel for the kick drum and the bass guitar....will be much appreciated
@kend7597
@kend7597 4 жыл бұрын
awesome content
@AndrewTGreen
@AndrewTGreen 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir!
@issaccartwright736
@issaccartwright736 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone reading this comment and anyone that made it to 14:26 in the video. That sums all of this up perfectly. “This is a preference.” I don’t want to be that guy but my only source of income is repeatedly making bands sound good, and I am self taught, I didn’t pay for a bit of education. I started checking out videos again yesterday just cause it doesn’t matter how much you know. You will never know it all, if this was me I would have driven the gain on each mic a lot harder and you’d have a lot more to compress. And would maybe be more informative for people who need to hear a massive difference between compressor on and off. But then I don’t like over compressed drums. Going back to the point, everything is preference, everything is art, and unless you damage anything there is no wrong way to get to being beautiful. I wish you all well and good luck on your journeys. Maybe I’ll make a video of how I would do everything? Not to show off or disagree, just I think the point is making the world sound better. And if I can help share that then sign me up. Peace. x
@beefdawgamadeus
@beefdawgamadeus 3 жыл бұрын
I like that, my normal job is all about procedures and systems and having specific ways of doing things so with music, while I love getting cool tips and learning from others on youtube, it's nice knowing that there's no set rule or system we have to abide by. It's freeing
@jrenb234
@jrenb234 5 жыл бұрын
For the bass drum do you use two mics for the in and out ?
@el4ment
@el4ment 6 жыл бұрын
You are the real deal
@kaim.8462
@kaim.8462 Жыл бұрын
May just loosen the snare wires a little bit have the same effect as a compressor? ^^ Thanks a lot for the Video, i always like mostly natural stuff, greetz
@DavidJordanCSMT
@DavidJordanCSMT 9 жыл бұрын
Great Videos, in a easy to understand way. Thanks!
@tribbybueno
@tribbybueno 3 жыл бұрын
i'd love an equivalent for synthetic drums but still this was awesome
@rcboffa
@rcboffa 8 жыл бұрын
I only have 4 mics on my kit; kick, snare and 2 overheads. I also only have a 2 channel compressor. Should I insert the compressors on the kick and snare, or the overheads? I'm thinking the overheads so I can get better tail from the cymbals and toms.
@RetroElectroville
@RetroElectroville 7 жыл бұрын
Either would work well, just with different end results. It's a good idea to experiment to see what you like best.
@theophiluskoshiasakpo4390
@theophiluskoshiasakpo4390 4 жыл бұрын
Nice one Mr Hurley I hope you could train me one on one
@froger005
@froger005 8 жыл бұрын
What would you say about parallel compression when you are already compressing the drums this much?
@arpet983
@arpet983 8 жыл бұрын
+froger005 I think it depends on the way the track sounds overall and of course genre. Personlly, I use parallel compression just to make my drums a little bit more crispier. I found it useful on electronic music as well as live (such as rock or hard rock, basically something that has a lot of distorted guitars in it). Tbh, I think it all depends on the preferences and the way you want your track to sound.
@ulrichmeister1806
@ulrichmeister1806 7 жыл бұрын
What do you think about the mixer? Its theX32 right? Can you recommend it?
@dimakushnir7506
@dimakushnir7506 5 жыл бұрын
I have x32 rack and it’s not bad at all. Go with Midas m32, that one has better preamps, more expensive but the same configuration as on x32. Speaking about routing, you have to get use to.
@manojkamalakar6293
@manojkamalakar6293 5 жыл бұрын
can anyone please tell me which mixer he's using?
@ddrummer1128
@ddrummer1128 5 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t a slower release give you less “tail” since the tail of a transient is already soft, a slow release is continuing to compress an already softer part of a sound. Whereas a faster release would stop compressing sooner, and once make-up gain is added the “tail” is now louder giving you more sustain.
@peachhansjurgen2835
@peachhansjurgen2835 7 жыл бұрын
How do you insert the tracks into the X32?
@dustinthiessen
@dustinthiessen 7 жыл бұрын
on the routing page, select the card ins, rather than the local, or AES50
@kingbooy7891
@kingbooy7891 9 ай бұрын
i want my drum to be sound as sweet as possible tell me wat to do
@phugenla
@phugenla 8 жыл бұрын
which mixer are you using in the video
@Juggins13
@Juggins13 8 жыл бұрын
+Pema Dorjee Bhutia Behringer X32
@MCP1BEME
@MCP1BEME 7 жыл бұрын
What is you only have Old School equipment. Like I have an EV BK 8 board (I use just for drums) Into an EV BK 12 Board. Would I have to buy 8 different EQ's for each Drum or How do I do a Whole set of Drums with one EQ and Still get the Awesome Bass Kick punch. I know now that I will need to get a compressor but also how would I use it to do the whole set. I am not talking about a studio mix I want to do this for a live mix lets say in a local bar or at a Small Club
@MCP1BEME
@MCP1BEME 7 жыл бұрын
I haven't been able to understand the compressors in the past as most of the sound men I ran into didn't have the time or the want to show me the correct way of using Compressors and most of the music store sales men know less than I do about compressors but they tell me I have to have it and the have a great one just slightly over my budget range. Thank you so much for sharing your hard earned knowledge. Would you recommend any Schools that are close to Southern Maryland where I can take some classes or do you recommend any classes I could take at the local Community Collage to take that will help me with sound engineering or how I can use the stuff I have to be a sound man for local bands?
@MCP1BEME
@MCP1BEME 7 жыл бұрын
Also could you show how to compress a whole kit with one Compressor like one Rack mounted compressor from just the drum board
@mikewoods_vt
@mikewoods_vt 9 жыл бұрын
what kind of daw would that. im trying to find a visual compressor like you are using here
@JamesArthurHurley
@JamesArthurHurley 8 жыл бұрын
+Michael Woods most compressors will show you all the same information as you are seeing here.
@mikewoods_vt
@mikewoods_vt 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks James.
@benkeyes4438
@benkeyes4438 5 жыл бұрын
Drum EQ tips?
@richardampah2673
@richardampah2673 2 жыл бұрын
HELLO MY NAME IS RICHARD AMPAH I WANT TO KNOW HoW TO MIX beAT pls
@Agent36
@Agent36 5 жыл бұрын
Snare bleed killed it for me.
@barnabasja8276
@barnabasja8276 5 жыл бұрын
cool. helpful
@gabrielgheorghiu1976
@gabrielgheorghiu1976 5 жыл бұрын
Man, you shouldn't talk over the transitions. Your voice is louder than the music. It's hard to hear the differences between w/comp - w/o comp. Otherwise is one of the most professional tutorial on youtube! Good job!
@AlbertoDati
@AlbertoDati 7 жыл бұрын
Let's get rid of the hold.
@danielstartek9729
@danielstartek9729 2 жыл бұрын
Cue ball does drums!
@user-yb4le2rv5w
@user-yb4le2rv5w 8 жыл бұрын
יהוה on your hand?
@b3nnyb3nny
@b3nnyb3nny 6 жыл бұрын
Is the kick in the kick mic, and the kick out the sub kick?
@imjamescameron
@imjamescameron 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Mathew, both are kick mics', its just the kick-in mic captures more of the snap. So due to it being relatively close to the beater head, it would be behind all that air. The kick out mic is in front of the wave, therefore allowing the wave to have enough time to develop... hence the name sub-kick for the microphone being used for this purpose. Hope that helps clear things up a little bit. Best of luck friend.
@b3nnyb3nny
@b3nnyb3nny 6 жыл бұрын
So he is using one mic inside close to beater and one outside?
@imjamescameron
@imjamescameron 6 жыл бұрын
Matthew Warrenfells Yes.
@Alvolta25
@Alvolta25 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah dude! now i can work on Superior drummer lot better dude.. thanks !
@timpadrick27
@timpadrick27 9 жыл бұрын
The tracks are much too quiet.
@evensteve284
@evensteve284 8 жыл бұрын
I agree! The voice over needs to come down a bit, and the drums need to come up. But overall, this series is incredibly helpful. My drum sound has improved to the point were people are telling me how good it sounds. Thank you for this!
@dhill05
@dhill05 8 жыл бұрын
Not with good headphones
@evensteve284
@evensteve284 8 жыл бұрын
Yes. I'm using good headphones: Sony MDR-7506. They're not the best, just pretty damn good. The voice over needs to come down and the drums need to go up. . . Just a little. This vid is otherwise excellent.
@freecitymoneyphoenixknowdg3252
@freecitymoneyphoenixknowdg3252 6 жыл бұрын
+evensteve284 right
@AudioReplica2023
@AudioReplica2023 7 жыл бұрын
ppl , if you are here watching this video and relating it with studio mixing , you are in the wrong direction. This is more for live situations. Read the description. That explains why a little bit overboard on snare compression since in a live environment is not a consistent transient response specially from the snare.
@artofficialmusic5257
@artofficialmusic5257 Жыл бұрын
You intro music is made up of Reason stock samples 😂. Been years since I heard those bad boys.
@clintilsung8034
@clintilsung8034 7 жыл бұрын
I don't get why you mix on unity and build around it with your gain.. normally you try to get an even level on the input gain and adjust the mix with the faders.
@HunterShawMusic
@HunterShawMusic 5 жыл бұрын
Clint Il Sung fader resolution
@richarddunn367
@richarddunn367 5 жыл бұрын
Its a master class...but your explaining the absolute basics...
@jthunderbass1
@jthunderbass1 9 жыл бұрын
what ever you do, do not assume that every compressor setting is going to be this low. on the threshold.
@JamesArthurHurley
@JamesArthurHurley 8 жыл бұрын
+David Jaycox Yes, the thresholds are a result of having to run this console in that environment too quiet. Pay attention to the gain reduction as I emphasized.
@chalerhingo1310
@chalerhingo1310 5 жыл бұрын
EVERYBODY arguing about slower release theory......Why are you here if you are the expert?
@mick9708
@mick9708 Жыл бұрын
Probably because they have an interest in mixing, people are allowed to have opinions bud
@imaymakesomevids
@imaymakesomevids 4 жыл бұрын
It's pumping way too much
@Sixstringhiggs
@Sixstringhiggs 7 жыл бұрын
Why is it these engineers don't understand that a longer release time is actually choking out the sustain on their drums. So dumb.
@DigitalToysOfficial
@DigitalToysOfficial 7 жыл бұрын
He actually explains it the right way in this video though...
@JayTheYTGuy
@JayTheYTGuy 6 жыл бұрын
It's not. Longer release = longer compression = louder = why? Cause compression 😎
@ddrummer1128
@ddrummer1128 5 жыл бұрын
Jesse Fishman longer compression would NOT mean louder. A slow release would continue to compress the tail end of a transient. A fast release would stop compressing sooner, so once proper make-up gain is added the tail would actually be louder with a fast release. Not a slow one. His description of a slow attack adding more punch and aggression is true, but his description of the release is backwards. A fast release will actually give you more sustain, and a slow release will sound more transparent/natural, bringing down the entirety of the drum hit.
@miguelpessanha
@miguelpessanha 5 жыл бұрын
100 ms isn't long all, he says long but it's pretty fast, a lot of hardware compressors dont even go so fast...
@TheDJjems
@TheDJjems 4 жыл бұрын
You need to back down your voice over or gain on your tracks.
@LordCritish
@LordCritish 7 жыл бұрын
Yo great video! Hail Trump!
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