Мастер-класс Миреллы Френи

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10 жыл бұрын

Знаменитая оперная итальянская дива Мирелла Френи, некогда блиставшая на лучших оперных сценах, а ныне возглавляющая Академию Бельканто в итальянском Модене, приехала в Москву по приглашению Галины Вишневской чтобы дать мастер-класс молодым российским певцам и студентам Московской консерватории, Института имени Шнитке и, конечно же, ученикам Центра оперного пения, отобранными лично Галиной Вишневской.
Мастер-класс Миреллы Френи стал частью долгосрочного проекта "Молодежные оперные ассамблеи".

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@CriticaLxThoughX
@CriticaLxThoughX 5 жыл бұрын
All the comments about "Freni's so rude": you don't understand, she's the only one in Europe who tries keeping the italian old school singing alive! During the second world war, so many marvellous voice teachers fled out of Europe. People sometimes don't realize that a big part of the tradition was lost! Freni is doing a great job, I'm happy she's doing it.
5 жыл бұрын
Freni is absolutely not teaching the belcanto but nasal and constricted singing. Also, she is not teaching but screeching, yelling and humiliating the students.
@CriticaLxThoughX
@CriticaLxThoughX 5 жыл бұрын
@ How do you know? Did she teach you or are you just judging by this video? Did you watch videos of other lessons she gave? I'm sure if someone sang nasally she'd immediately correct them.
@Tkimba2
@Tkimba2 4 жыл бұрын
@@CriticaLxThoughX ok if you think she's a good teacher you must have your reasons. And the reasons must be that you've heard her students sing and sing WELL. Tell me who are her students and where they're singing. Otherwise your point about her teaching is not valid.
@ivanoporrino3352
@ivanoporrino3352 4 жыл бұрын
E' mancata oggi la "nostra" Mirella! Un giorno triste per gli appassionati di musica lirica. Con estrema commozione sto scrivendo queste poche righe su questa grande cantante modenese,proprio come il suo caro amico Pavarotti che l'ha preceduta da ormai molti anni,nell'Olimpo dei grandi!
@AlexOrozco-Social-Pariah
@AlexOrozco-Social-Pariah 4 жыл бұрын
@ She's not teaching anything nasal nor constricted, she wants everyone to sing FLUENTLY AND FREE because everyone is engolating (as usual in most singing students nowadays almost like a standard in the industry). Reaching the note is NOT ENOUGH; you got to do it the most healthy way possible or it will have long term consequences. That's what the old belcanto technique is about and not constricted nor nasal missconception you picked out of this. Belcanto is a discipline and if you don't want to be told exactly where you are going wrong you are not meant to be on a stage in a masterclass but in a regular teacher classroom to keep untouched your own perception of singing.
@IRINA_MININA_JAZZ
@IRINA_MININA_JAZZ 3 жыл бұрын
Абсолютно согласна, всё точно и по делу! В этом году Мирелла Френи покинула землю, но уверена, что будет с ангелами петь на небесах. Царствия небесного прекрасной певице и удивительной женщине.
@Todd_O_SOP_3465
@Todd_O_SOP_3465 2 жыл бұрын
А ещё, у неё муж прекрасный!
@sergeytenerife1046
@sergeytenerife1046 Жыл бұрын
Миела френи-великая.нет никого кто так бы спел Мими в богеме как она.это эталон
@worldofclassicalmusic9033
@worldofclassicalmusic9033 4 жыл бұрын
какое счастье, что мой учитель учит этому с начала моего обучения
@MS-xp4xm
@MS-xp4xm 3 жыл бұрын
И как успехи?
@kirkaverin1585
@kirkaverin1585 2 жыл бұрын
@@MS-xp4xm перепел витаса
@annaalex2007
@annaalex2007 2 жыл бұрын
И мне повезло с педагогами! Но это испанец и его русская ученица.
@RS-ue4wg
@RS-ue4wg 6 жыл бұрын
Приятно и интересно смотреть за работой мастера. Браво! Мирелла Френи! Спасибо всем участникам.
@alenuska8329
@alenuska8329 7 жыл бұрын
Мирелла - мой кумир! Она молодец, что покритиковала нашу школу нынешнюю с её „раздутым“ звуком. Архипова более резко объясняла то же самое (я была ещё школьницей, когда имела счастье попасть на подобие мастер-класса от Ирины Константиновны), но потом, в муз.колледже, мне всячески пытались доказать, что невнятные слова с вытьём - это хорошо, а оперное пение свободно-разговорным стилем - древность.
@pampiliong
@pampiliong 4 жыл бұрын
Вы правы. Одной моей подруге таксист, узнав, что она оперная певица, сказал:Вы все поете искуственно, не люблю" И был прав. А это послествия нашей перерасширенной школы
@user-sp5se5iw5j
@user-sp5se5iw5j 4 жыл бұрын
Всё верно!
@user-sp5se5iw5j
@user-sp5se5iw5j 4 жыл бұрын
Пение должно быть свободным
@karramba3309
@karramba3309 4 жыл бұрын
@@pampiliong тот момент когда таксист лучше знает о пени )))
@allakrasilnikov1803
@allakrasilnikov1803 4 жыл бұрын
Прекрасный мастер- класс! Просто Класссс! Близкий, собранный звук- это далеко не значит плоский звук.Правильный звук как раз будет круглым и об' емным. Жаль, что наши горе- педагоги этого не слышат
@Vicasarg
@Vicasarg 7 жыл бұрын
Все правильно она говорит,очень трудно слушать мычащих певцов, которые жуют все слова и голос как из ведра. И выражение "как говоришь так и пой" не имеет буквального смысла, смысл в том что звук летел вперед, в зал, над оркестром, над фоно. Разве не видно, что все представленные певцы давятся звуком? Верха это форсированное горло? О какой технике тут идет речь? Если техника и заключается в четкой дикции, в полетном звуке в свободном пении? Френи говорит основные наиболее значимые моменты, обобщая их. Она не обязана с каждым заниматься по часу, это трудоемкая работа, которую должны были делать педагоги. Что вы тут демагогию развели? Русский язык не самый лучший для пения, он тяжелый , неповоротливый, и русские певцы поют довольно средне на итальянском, потому что сочетания звуков нет такого как на итальянском, нет той звонкости и нет быстроты в речи. И педагогов кстати, в Росии тоже очень, очень мало, единицы.
@anas-vasilkova
@anas-vasilkova 2 жыл бұрын
Да, не в русском языке нет итальянских сочетаний звуков, а итальянцы не могут произнести некие сочетания звуков. В этом весь фокус .
@viktoriya77777viktoriya
@viktoriya77777viktoriya 2 жыл бұрын
Это совершенно разные школы вокальные, разная техника звучания. А у преподавателя нет деликатности, критика, граничащая с насмешкой. Вот Т. И. Синявская это и певица экстра класса и педагог от Бога!!!
@Shrodingers_man
@Shrodingers_man 2 жыл бұрын
Идеальный коммент! Именно резонансное звучание и оттого - полётность звука ставлю в основу своим ученикам. Найти резонанс и полётность - найти силу звука. Не наоборот. Без артикуляции - невозможно.
@user-jw6cn8qm5r
@user-jw6cn8qm5r 2 жыл бұрын
@@viktoriya77777viktoriya Когда Собинов гастролировал во времена оны в "Ла Скала" первый раз, то публика не поверила, что он русский, так что сеньора Френи всё по делу говорит. Мы вовсе не первооткрыватели в пении оперном, а примкнувшие совсем недавно по историческим меркам и наши певцы прошлого пели в итальянской манере, но потом мы съехали непонятно куда. Лично я терпеть не могу утробные низы наших знаменитых меццо, да ещё с тремором или сопрановый визг горлом. imxo
@vokalistkaN1
@vokalistkaN1 9 жыл бұрын
Она достаёт, выводит голос...После её правок голоса ЛЕТЯТ, словно крылья появляются у голосов!!!!! До мурашек и до слёз.....Великолепный мастер...И, главное, с юмором, легко, и доходчиво всё объясняет...Брависсимо мастеру и ребятам.
@asoleil1
@asoleil1 9 жыл бұрын
Шарлатанство!!! Достаточно сравнить, как она пела сама, стем, что она высмеивает у других певцов: речь о базовых принципах вокала. Тетенька либо не догоняет, либо намеренно вредит. В том и другом, к сожалению, она не одинока.
@serafimaryzhova1385
@serafimaryzhova1385 4 жыл бұрын
@@asoleil1 Жаль девушку,испонявшую арию Маргариты.Неужели она на самом деле настолько бездарная? Неужели она так фальшиво поет? А что с ней стало в далнейшем?Знает ли кто-нибудь? Она ее просто уничтожила.
@ulviyynovruzova490
@ulviyynovruzova490 4 жыл бұрын
@@asoleil1 Можно поподробнее?
@skazkiskazovny3648
@skazkiskazovny3648 4 жыл бұрын
Это не мастер-класс, это самолюбование + размазать студентов. Она только говорит, что не так, а что физически сделать, чтобы стало так - ни разу не сказала.
@ulviyynovruzova490
@ulviyynovruzova490 4 жыл бұрын
@@skazkiskazovny3648 Такие взрослые люди уже должны знать как это делать. Ээто послать звук в резонаторы, близко к зубам. Многие вещи в вокале делаются с помощью воображения.
@pabloperdomo5174
@pabloperdomo5174 Жыл бұрын
Along with Renata Scotto, Mirella Freni was the most versatile lyric soprano with a most beautiful voice, unbeatable technique, expressiveness and innate musicality. Due to their vast repertory, they both were the perfect opera coaches ever. May her soul Rest in Peace.
@martamatuszewska6549
@martamatuszewska6549 4 жыл бұрын
Great teacher... Rest in peace Mrs. Freni.
@user-qk8xo1me8o
@user-qk8xo1me8o 7 жыл бұрын
Мирелла Френи великая певица. И то что она говорит о звуке верно. Звук не должен заходить во внутрь, он только из вне касается кожи и посылается назад в зал, и образуется звук перед верхними двумя зубами на расстоянии ладони. Если точно определить что поет в теле, то это клиновидная пазуха с помощью связок, а клиновидная пазуха очень маленькая, и поэтому большой звук ее перегружает. Терпеть не могу нашу зевковую грузную школу, это не школа а порождение тяжелого рева, который не только не способен полететь а переполняет клиновидку, и возвращается обратно в горло на связки. Так что. Браво Френи, Брависимо!!!
@evdokiaonuchina8645
@evdokiaonuchina8645 5 жыл бұрын
А еще от этого глубления и рева чудовищно ползет интонация! Только близкий текст нужен, синьора Френни права!
@klass_max
@klass_max 3 жыл бұрын
вы когда-нибудь слушали Марию Каллас?!
@jorgearnone7707
@jorgearnone7707 3 жыл бұрын
Una gran profesora extraordinaria. Grande entre las grandes Mirella. Gracias por todo tu inmenso arte
@AntW11
@AntW11 6 жыл бұрын
I have read many comments complaining about Freni criticizing in a rude manner. What she is doing is pointing out defects that will lead to a short career and vocal problems. She is helping them and those who pay attention are singing with an improved free sound. As singers they will face much worse on the job. It is better they learn now.
@sanjalukic6334
@sanjalukic6334 5 жыл бұрын
She is absolutely right, all singers sings very throaty, imirating fake dark operatic sonund. She honestly tried to help them. But it's quite impossible rid them off of these unhealthy habits for such a short time. They'll need a lot of effort and time to corect these long gained habits... And her advices are extremely important/helpful, if they don't realize that, they' ll never sing correct and develop a full potential of their voices... And there are many really, really beautiful voices...
@xavieralberto1176
@xavieralberto1176 4 жыл бұрын
It’s always possible to critize without being a bitch! This is not helping anyone. Very, very disappointing the way she humiliates them. Even worst than Schwartzkopf! And then she asks the public for respect - shameful,really. . And she talks about respect!,,,
@russmaleartist
@russmaleartist 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly, how can one understand to improve, if one does not grasp what one is doing incorrectly and how to correct it. The longer bad habits are used, the harder it is to correct. Sometimes the only way to fix a habib is to have the mistake taken to almost ridicule or irritation so that in the mind . . . it does not go back to that place again and the good habit replaces it instead.
@AlexOrozco-Social-Pariah
@AlexOrozco-Social-Pariah 4 жыл бұрын
@@xavieralberto1176 the public is there to learn too, is not humilliation. If you can't take criticism in a masterclass (which by definition has a public too) like the professional you want to be then you don't deserve the spot, simple. Art is a discipline, not a childs game and singing is WAY more than just reaching the note. But today's singers want everything to be simple and if they are told wrong they look for another teacher. That is not a professional mindset.
@dimitriy2002
@dimitriy2002 2 жыл бұрын
Волшебная,умничка,величайшая,всё так просто,что очень сложно❤️❤️❤️
@Ninita936
@Ninita936 10 жыл бұрын
Большое Вам спасибо за это видео!!!
@yosivladi4018
@yosivladi4018 3 жыл бұрын
Вчера посмотрел фильм про Саломею Крушельницкую. Это она спасла Пуччини и его Мадам Батерфляй. Ее во Львове в консе выучили как мецо-сопрано. Приехала она в Италию и ей там сказали - " Вы не мецо, вы сопрано и вас надо переучить." Так что вот так. Учимся мы певцы по 10 и 20 лет , а оказыаается не тому учимся. Все от школы зависит и удачи. Попадется хороший педагог на твоем жизненном пути и поведет тебя в правильном направлении, возможно что-нибудь и получится
@rike7855
@rike7855 Жыл бұрын
поделитесь ссылкой
@Todd_O_SOP_3465
@Todd_O_SOP_3465 2 жыл бұрын
Какая она классная!
@ezequielstepanenko3229
@ezequielstepanenko3229 4 жыл бұрын
I think she does an excellent job, she is extremely practical, goes directly to the root of the problems with the singers and the results are immediate
@diaTeri
@diaTeri 10 жыл бұрын
да да! огромное спасибо!!! просто исключительный по полезности мастер-класс, от настоящей легенды оперной сцены!
@diaTeri
@diaTeri 9 жыл бұрын
сейчас во времена тенденции на углубление звука певцами, она, как обладательница старой школы дает очень полезне детям советы. самое главное- это легкая и естественная подача звука, это основа. за один мастер-класс, конечно не научить ничему, но дать верный вектор и указать на ошибки она смогла. очень полезно вокалистам послушать ее замечания. разве нет?
@vaskobulgarelli
@vaskobulgarelli 9 жыл бұрын
Tana Dimitrova brava Tana,penie stroitsya na osnove razgovora..
@bodiloto
@bodiloto 9 жыл бұрын
Tana Dimitrova ahahahahahah ! nu davaite ! spoite tak, kak i V'y govorite ! poprobuite ! ahahahahahah ! questa barzelletta della Freni mi fa proprio morire da ridere ! ps. una voce giovane canta,una vecchia voce- parla ! ahahahahahahahah !
@allajavoronkova
@allajavoronkova 6 жыл бұрын
а польза в том,уважаемый,что на сцене перед звездой стояли тупые звукодуи,которые не соображали ни на йоту,ЧТО они поют, и о ЧЁМ они поют (ОНА им рассказывала!). Теперь понятно? Как раньше говорили в Большом театре: "ПАРОВОЗНЫЙ ГУДОК ВСЁ РАВНО ГРОМЧЕ БУДЕТ"
@GeorgiaTryfona
@GeorgiaTryfona 6 жыл бұрын
I honestly do not understand the comments on this video. She is only commenting on their voice and rightly so. (All of them with the exception of one soprano sing with their vocal fold mass inside the throat) she doesn't humiliate them as personalities. It's their voice as an instrument that she comments on. People seem to have very fragile egos nowadays... plus her way is really Mediterranean which to me is also funny and relaxed. I can imagine that in a Russian school this kind of temperament may sound arrogant. But she is not. My teacher has the same behaviour and we crack up laughing when she mocks my mistakes. I guess it's a cultural difference.
@giovannima7546
@giovannima7546 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly. If what they wanna hear is only, "yeah bravo/a. You sing perfectly." then what is the point of attending masterclasses? You can just sing in front of a mirror and applaud yourself. Incisive criticisms can let the students remember what mistakes they have made easier. What else is the teacher supposed to do? Be nice and say something like "oh dear. Yeah you sang really really well. However, might I remind you something....perhaps you should not use your throat to sing?" A lot of comments are absolutely nonsense. These people should go back to kindergartens where are full of lenient comments and criticisms.
@franziskakre8309
@franziskakre8309 4 жыл бұрын
She is very nice comparing to Elisabeth Schwarzkopf. This young singers are there because they want to learn something so its right if Signora Freni tells them what is wrong. Thats the best teachers.
@dttra566
@dttra566 4 жыл бұрын
You guys should see how Chinese Pekin Opera singers train in the old days. Watch the movie "Farewell My Concubine". They get beaten by their teachers with a cane for the tiniest mistakes, the foot raised 1 centimeter lower than what it should be. And people think this is harsh criticism? It's the same in all art forms. Art is cultivated through sweat and tears.
@EmilyGloeggler7984
@EmilyGloeggler7984 4 жыл бұрын
Remember, that is only your opinion but it does not mean its accurate. In regards to this woman, the Mediterranean attitude, unless you meet a courteous one, which there are some and who are, unlike what many commonly refer to as insipid, they end up often braggart inflated egotism, which is quite laughable. A truly good voice teacher like Tom LoMonaco - who never abused or mocked his students, at least as far as recorded and documented by his students. All of them attested he was as constructive and firm, but always encouraging them to improve and do better. He also understood this because he had an abusive teacher, Douglas Stanley, and he refined not only some errors he taught but also believed in treating students with tough honest but encouraging constructive criticism. It is a common thing to find abusive teachers and its quite sad. Very few bother to behave as honorably and accurately as he did. Sadly, even those vocal pedagogues who claim to know what they're doing often don't and get away with both physical, verbal, emotional, and even, tragically, sexual abuse - based on their "knowledge" - which is pathetic.
@Phioletovii
@Phioletovii 4 жыл бұрын
I come from Russia, and this is not at all tough in comparison with how some Russian teachers act=) I do not find her rude, but a bit too intense. I agree a lot with what she says and I think it is useful to exaggerate someone´s mistakes so that the person understand them better. At the same time learning things like singing would take a lot of thorough work, one masterclass is useful maybe for those who view it in recording, but maybe it is difficult for those singers who took part in it. I think it is the entire approach that needs to be changed. It is not these singers´ fault, it is how they had been taught
@caninbar
@caninbar 9 жыл бұрын
Ecco un grande esempio di una persona che ha avuto una grande carriera e che capisce la differenza tra un suono emesso bene e uno non emesso bene ma non sa diagnosticare il problema con termini specifici e quindi rimane generica e esageratamente emotiva nelle sue spiegazioni per mancanza della conoscenza dell'apparato vocale.
@Tkimba2
@Tkimba2 5 жыл бұрын
Non c'entra l anatomia qua. Non sa spiegare, punto
@giudiciadanna4550
@giudiciadanna4550 4 жыл бұрын
@@Tkimba2 Tomba 2, eppoi non e' proprio tutta questa finezza...non puo' spiegare o raccontare cio' che non ha mai posseduto. Sembra la master classe dell' Orso Yogy.
@Tkimba2
@Tkimba2 4 жыл бұрын
@@giudiciadanna4550 in effetti la voce quando parla è quella.
@giudiciadanna4550
@giudiciadanna4550 4 жыл бұрын
@@Tkimba2 , anche di Braccobaldo Show....non so pero' se te lo ricordi o non eri nato..
@80Mrmirko
@80Mrmirko 4 жыл бұрын
Riconosce bene i difetti, come chi ha un po’ di orecchio, dice come dovrebbe essere il giusto risultato, ma non dice nulla su come raggiungere quel risultato
@Operafiend22
@Operafiend22 9 жыл бұрын
Singing opera is incredibly difficult, endlessly dedicated work....good for Mirella for educating the masses on the real professionals go through on a daily basis
@eugnsp
@eugnsp 9 жыл бұрын
Я хоть и не любитель такого вокала, но посмотрел с удовольствием. :)
@user-bl8xp9ph4n
@user-bl8xp9ph4n 10 жыл бұрын
Все правильно говорит,супер мастер класс))
@vaskobulgarelli
@vaskobulgarelli 9 жыл бұрын
Сергей Москальков uroven' znanij daleko prevoshodyashchij uroven' ponimaniya sovremennyh pevcov...
@bodiloto
@bodiloto 9 жыл бұрын
Natal'ia Popova ahahahahah ! nu,nado Vam uchitsa u Freni,vot i vse ! i kogda konchite Vashe obrazovanie pozvonite mne v Parije,chtob'y razkazat' mne kak b'ilo.... ni puha,ni pera...
@pablonorbertoperdomo6105
@pablonorbertoperdomo6105 4 жыл бұрын
Incredible! She knew all the tunes and lyrics - word by word - sung by all these Russian candidates to the opera stage. Freni sang over 50 complete operas on stage and recorded over twenty by composers such as Verdi, Puccini, Donizetti, Bellini, Leoncavallo, Handel, Rossini, Cilea, Giordano, Tchaikovsky, Mozart, etc. Arguably one of the most versatile and complete opera singer/actress of the 20th century and part of the 21st. Rest in peace, Mirella, you will be irreplaceable!
@teresaestevezalvarez664
@teresaestevezalvarez664 2 жыл бұрын
I think Mrs Freni is a superb teacher making this Master class so instructive and voice liberating and proyection for the novel singers. I admire Mirella a great soprano.
@user-nc1gv8yc9g
@user-nc1gv8yc9g 2 жыл бұрын
Настоящий мастер!
@user-fk4fn3vn3f
@user-fk4fn3vn3f 4 жыл бұрын
MIRELLA FRENI's way of singing Opera is completely correct, which is now died and considered as old approach to vocal art. Here I recommend that you watch an KZfaq channel called 'This is Opera'. You can find out there why the modern opera world is so unpopular among people. The channel is very enlightening and educational.
@KmwAmg
@KmwAmg 4 жыл бұрын
Great Artist and teacher ! Miss her
@barbovmario2652
@barbovmario2652 7 жыл бұрын
The problem is not who has got a beautiful voice or a great technique but who makes you forget ALL the others...Freni was one of these unique singers and artists. So at least she is not hypocritical and says what she thinks... all the others lie.
@galiaibragimova6778
@galiaibragimova6778 5 жыл бұрын
К таким мастерам надо приходить с минимальными техническими проблемами..
@giustinicol
@giustinicol 8 жыл бұрын
Perfettamente inversamente proporzionale alla sua grande e bella carriera. Scioccante!!
@Abigayl1950
@Abigayl1950 5 жыл бұрын
Nicola Giusti , d’accordo con te !! Una pessima insegnante e maleducata !!
@leonardodanovaro7002
@leonardodanovaro7002 4 жыл бұрын
ASSOCIAZIONE CULTURALE secondo me ottima insegnante!!!
@ninani9437
@ninani9437 5 жыл бұрын
Великолепно 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@user-jd6mn9up7o
@user-jd6mn9up7o 4 жыл бұрын
О чудо! То что я искала, мне именно это нужно!
@floridaoperaprimaf.o.p2430
@floridaoperaprimaf.o.p2430 8 жыл бұрын
PURA TECNICA ITALIANA, GRACIAS MAESTRA, VENGA A USA AQUI SE HAN INVENTADO UNA TECNICA FATALE.
@lu120762
@lu120762 8 жыл бұрын
Чудесная Мирелла, Бельканто !!!!
@bodiloto
@bodiloto 7 жыл бұрын
Luisa Sheff eto ne ''bel'kanto'' , eto samoubiystvo .
@Alex15a8
@Alex15a8 4 жыл бұрын
хотя я не пою, а только хочу петь, но посмотрел с удовольствием ))
@rosalielevacque4727
@rosalielevacque4727 8 жыл бұрын
Cпасибо Mirella Freni !!! великолепный !!!
@guzepppi
@guzepppi 5 жыл бұрын
THE INTERPRETER IS FANTASTIC. FRENI IS ALSO HILARIOUS!!! HO HOW ENJOYED THIS, THOUGH I AM GLAD THAT IT WAS NOT ME LEARNING. BRAVI, THEY WHERE VERY BRAVE. BEST MASTER CLASS.
@operadude32
@operadude32 8 жыл бұрын
They have beautiful voices but they seem to be listening to themselves too much. I love what Freni is doing with them, getting the sound out of the throat and into a higher placement.
@user-tb3vh6wt9i
@user-tb3vh6wt9i 4 жыл бұрын
Мені дуже сподобався майстер клас!!!
@TheRosahamburgo
@TheRosahamburgo 5 жыл бұрын
Sometimes the only way to teach is to exaggerate what we want to show. And I think She finally mocks the issue with swallowing the voice because The singers keep on doing it. I don't think She is mean. She is giving the best to these students.
@russmaleartist
@russmaleartist 4 жыл бұрын
She is the master, she has nothing to prove . . . what she is doing is kind compared to what the public critics will do if they pursue incorrect technique and pronounciations, and tonal quality. Today, the fragile snowflakes onlly wish to receive praise with little hard work. Real artistry is still discipline. So much of what is a heritage of great singing is being lost, because the public is becoming conditioned to poor quality and accept noise and pyrotechniques as a substitute for quality. Overindulged drama do not make-up for a good and sound foundation of vocal technique and musical honestry.
@rinatair461
@rinatair461 8 жыл бұрын
100% права Мирелла Френи, Как говоришь так и пой. Браво!!!!!
@tacetfive
@tacetfive 4 жыл бұрын
"как говоришь, так и пой" - это мюзиклы с Фрэнком Синатрой и песни Юрия Визбора. Эти слова нельзя понимать буквально, всё сложнее
@alfa-femmealfa8896
@alfa-femmealfa8896 4 жыл бұрын
Ну поговорите на второй и третьей октаве)
@alfa-femmealfa8896
@alfa-femmealfa8896 4 жыл бұрын
Тут про дикцию острую и быструю! *У Миреллы каждое слово в партии Лизы было понятно! * Наших певиц иногда не понять...
@hello_gorgeous_
@hello_gorgeous_ 4 жыл бұрын
@@tacetfive Вы явно призерает мюзиклы 😒.
@sanitatamasuna9551
@sanitatamasuna9551 3 жыл бұрын
Всё правилно, так и нада пет :)
@ysf5004
@ysf5004 5 жыл бұрын
Che facile come l ha fatto ! È utile! Grazie ~
@yosivladi4018
@yosivladi4018 3 жыл бұрын
Итальянская школа приехала к русской школе и естественно ее забраковала. На самом деле - хотите петь итальянскую оперу надо у итальянцев учиться. Русская школа подходит для русской оперы
@alkssmith
@alkssmith 2 жыл бұрын
Если певец использует от силы 70 процентов потенциала и неправильно строит фразу, звук не там, не летит вперёд, и работой ртом пытаются компенсировать отсутствие правильной генерации в диафрагмах и далее....
@leodlibes4946
@leodlibes4946 5 жыл бұрын
Essa primeira mezzo, a voz dela é incrível. Timbre lindo demais
@margaritamargarita5602
@margaritamargarita5602 2 жыл бұрын
все таки звукоизвлечение у итальянской школы вокала и русской - разное!!!
@annagharslyan
@annagharslyan 4 жыл бұрын
My teacher is just like her.She sings like me to show my mistakes and I am really so happy that I can correct everything I do wrong))
@iskenderuna
@iskenderuna 9 жыл бұрын
BetuliaLiberata Toscarpia ***** I must say I find this a strange situation. Young singers are put on stage and have to perform for Freni. All the singers have drastic technical problems and she is supposed to correct those problems in 4 minutes??? Freni is a technician. If you hire her to give master classes then you must know that she is going to want to correct technical problems that the singers have. She is not going to give master classes in style or interpretation. How can one allot such a small time window for such a mammoth task? It seems the only thing she can do is give an appraisal. When your car is not driving well and you take it into the garage to find out what is wrong with it, you don't want to hear that it is a nice color or that the seats are in good condition. You want to hear what is wrong with it Yes, she does seem impatient and even slightly frustrated but I am sure she was expecting to have singers who are at a more advanced technical state and. At least she is being truthful and not like Jones who just waffles on about pronunciation or phrasing. I think the fault lies more with the organizers who sent such inexperienced singers into the bull ring or if they were stuck with these singers, the should have allocated at least 45 mins per singer.
@iskenderuna
@iskenderuna 9 жыл бұрын
***** What a lot of nonsense - your generalizations are way too dramatic and Of course there are singers today with big voices! and Edward is right, Freni indeed had a pretty good sized voice that easily soared over the orchestra. And as you can hear when she was paired with Corelli, one definitely could not maintain that the one had a bigger or smaller voice. It is a legend that del Monaco had a big voice - I heard him and it was quite disappointing. If you want to name a big voice then at least mention Vickers who was really big - it would at least give the impression you were talking some sense.
@iskenderuna
@iskenderuna 9 жыл бұрын
Edward Beckwith LOL - she had the habit of always looking up to the rafters with her eyes and face when the voice went up - I am sure that was part of her projection technique. I remember hearing her in Boccanegra at Covent Garden and even though I was sitting right at the top her voice just rode over the orchestra and chorus.
@natanaelmota2540
@natanaelmota2540 6 жыл бұрын
Maestra! Bravo!
@evandrosantana3670
@evandrosantana3670 8 жыл бұрын
This is a valuable singing lesson - something that seems missing nowadays. Mirella Freni, like Caballe, are great artists and know really well what good singing is. Mirella was a great singer and had a very solid technique. Such a privilege listening to her good pieces of advice. And this vídeo just prove that if someone wants to have a career in singing, they must be brave and prepared to listen and learn: people "too sensitive" with criticism cannot be opera singers. Brava Freni ! ! ! She was right in what she said about those singers. I could see improvement with her suggestions.
@jenspflug7473
@jenspflug7473 5 жыл бұрын
This video doesn't show anything but a former world class singer transmitting her advice pretty rudely. Go check youtube for Master classes with other former greats and you'll notice the difference. It is a question of style and what's wrong about being a bit more polite when teaching?
@evandrosantana3670
@evandrosantana3670 2 жыл бұрын
@@jenspflug7473 masterclass is to prepare the ones who want to pursue a career, not for those that only intend to sing for fun.
@jenspflug7473
@jenspflug7473 2 жыл бұрын
@@evandrosantana3670 I was referring to the teaching style and her rudeness. That has nothing to do with who sits in the class.
@roxanalatronico3369
@roxanalatronico3369 9 жыл бұрын
QUE BUENAS MASTER CLASS MAESTRA FRENI!!!!
@vaskobulgarelli
@vaskobulgarelli 9 жыл бұрын
Tana Dimitrova da,pravda,znaet o chem govorit..govorit pravdu,a eto segodnya,velikaya redkost'...
@bodiloto
@bodiloto 8 жыл бұрын
+vasko bulgarelli a chto takoe pravda?... obnimaiu !
@janaselle8063
@janaselle8063 3 жыл бұрын
Все ошибки у этих сопранисток из-за за того, что не умеют верхнюю губу поднимать, когда поют. Нас этому учили на французской фонетике. Это было не так то просто, но потом научились и поэтому сразу становится ясно о чём говорит Мирелла. Из-за фонетических особенностей нашего языка, и артикуляции, звук остаётся в горле или во рту и не идёт наверх вперёд.
@irinapopovamezzo
@irinapopovamezzo Жыл бұрын
Надо не губу поднимать а позицию. Любое напряжение вокруг конца губ плохо для звука.
@violetavalery
@violetavalery 9 жыл бұрын
now I know which masterclass I'll never attend in my life!!
@user-ms3lr1ux3w
@user-ms3lr1ux3w 5 жыл бұрын
Потрясающая Мирелла!!!Великая певица и отличный педагог!!!❤🌹👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@raphaelpisano5462
@raphaelpisano5462 4 жыл бұрын
She's a bit harsh but you can see she really cares for the singers - look how nice she is when saying goodbye to them. And she's always right when correcting them !
@ABC_CSC
@ABC_CSC 4 жыл бұрын
Thata just how it is, she may appear harsh here but that's how the majority of older teachers are. I had one who used to interrupt you when you breathed in too loud so you had to start all over again, wvenwhen the aria or lied was as good as finished xD
@alexeibochkarev2296
@alexeibochkarev2296 5 жыл бұрын
Все исполнители поют так, как их научили: глубоким звуком, в соответствии с российской школой, где открытый звук есть звук без развития. То, что показывает итальянка противоположно тому, чему учат, например, в консерватории. Разумеется, они не могут перестроиться за 5 минут
@ourcoverednarcs
@ourcoverednarcs 4 жыл бұрын
Alexei Bochkarev и в этом вся проблема. Российской оперной школы не должно существовать как таковой до тех пор пока людям не перестанут уродовать голоса и учить петь горлом.
@nataliaonupko5540
@nataliaonupko5540 4 жыл бұрын
@@ourcoverednarcs как же я радa, что есть люди, которые понимают это)))
@user-kt3ko3db1q
@user-kt3ko3db1q 3 жыл бұрын
@@ourcoverednarcs Дело не в горле, слишком опускают гортань "заглоченый звук", как в бочке. Важная форманта пропадает которая даёт звонкость, ее с такой пирениженой гортанью, никогда не получить.
@klass_max
@klass_max 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-kt3ko3db1q я думаю дело не в гортани! А ПЕНИИ НА ГОРЛЕ!!! А надо на опоре! И да, гортань должна быть опущена, грудной звук надо связать с головным. Тогда будет и глубина, и звонкость. А всё-же вы не особо различаете ГЛУБИНУ и ШИРИНУ звука.
@user-ui6qq9rz2x
@user-ui6qq9rz2x 2 жыл бұрын
@@klass_max Илья Масалов, вы совершенно правы! Я согласна с вами
@juanitoalimana3131
@juanitoalimana3131 3 жыл бұрын
Qué gran cantante era, qué a tiempo supo retirarse, y qué graciosa y borde está en estas clases...
@esejsnake1503
@esejsnake1503 5 жыл бұрын
11:37 That was so much better! That one note shows what he can and hopefully will be! The pianist was good. So good.
@daniel_5606
@daniel_5606 3 жыл бұрын
Master..👏👏
@user-gs1qv5sx3y
@user-gs1qv5sx3y 9 жыл бұрын
Прекрасный мастер-класс. Очень хотелось бы в нём поучаствовать!!!
@GregoryPino
@GregoryPino 10 жыл бұрын
hermosos los ojos de la maestra
@Yaroslav_Torov
@Yaroslav_Torov 4 жыл бұрын
мне кажется у меня ушло 7 лет чтобы понять про что она говорит здесь - "не дави на голос"
@user-jy4tp4rt4p
@user-jy4tp4rt4p 4 жыл бұрын
А у меня 20 лет...
@daenarofnandor972
@daenarofnandor972 3 жыл бұрын
Да, век живи - век учись😊 Я тоже постоянно себе напоминаю эти незыблемые основы😆
@annaalex2007
@annaalex2007 2 жыл бұрын
А мне повезло. С 12 лет меня так учат, как Мирелла.
@carollund8251
@carollund8251 4 жыл бұрын
Chi dici che è maleducata non ha mai vissuto in Italia..è solo un modo da fare che non è intenzionalmente crudele. Dice quello che pensa, senza girarsi intorno. Detto questo, come molti grandi artisti, non sa insegnare, capisce i difetti ma non so spiegare come correggerli. O almeno qui sembra, ma poi come si fa a cambiare completemente tecnica in un master class? Dovrebbe concentrarsi di piu sull' interpretazione, non si puo fare una " lezione di canto" così. Io ho incontrato la Freni 30 anni fa quando cantavo nel coro dell' opera di San Francisco, era gentilissima e completemente naturale e alla mano.
@user-im7ds7fy1b
@user-im7ds7fy1b 7 жыл бұрын
Почитала комментарии трёх российских ботов, критикующих Миреллу, - посмеялась от души. Ирина Константиновна Архипова говорила „Пойте, как будто в хоре. А если не можете и начинаете выдавливать/раздувать звук, то у вас нет голоса!“ . Если любого обывателя, далекого от музыки, попросить изобразить оперное пение, то он начнёт форсировать. И даже если у обывателя этого нет голоса вообще, то какие-то громкие звуки он выдаст - вот вам и основа нынешней российской школы.
@OGrauMusic
@OGrauMusic Ай бұрын
In conclusione: la tecnica del canto moderno è un disastro. Canta tutto dentro.
@G.Andrea_Piras
@G.Andrea_Piras 4 жыл бұрын
Eccellente maestra e allievi fantastici (sono Russi).
@nathanielthomas7849
@nathanielthomas7849 8 жыл бұрын
i dont think you guys dont really understand what it is to be an opera singer. in order for one to be great, they mist get used to straight, demanding criticism as far as technique and diction is concerned. these singers in this video made her upset because they were all singing way too heavy. she even told the first guy to brighten his vowels because his pitch was really low. i wish i could have had this oppurtunity. this is how it is at ivy league schools when taking diction courses, etc. they will stop a person numerous times until its fixed. its not about how she is teaching, but what she is teaching. they will and have probably thanked her for her help. renee fleming took lessons from her as well and even said that it takes someone with passion to study with her. she is very intense, but it takes a lot.
@joyblack2465
@joyblack2465 5 жыл бұрын
Nathaniel Thomas I don't agree. Russian school is so different from italian school, so a student who is used to that method can not just forgive in ten minutes what he knows and start again from the beginning.... It's impossible. Freni said it, but the way she teaches is RUDE! It doesn't matter if she has to repeat herself a thousand times, she's payed to do it! Plus, not everybody is able to learn from someone like her, with her attitude..
@FaeSuccubus
@FaeSuccubus 5 жыл бұрын
that's how they show us in bulgaria. I'm used to it.That's the point .
@longliveclassicmusic
@longliveclassicmusic 5 жыл бұрын
And how many of these singers from “ivy league schools” have sensational careers? Almost none of them, that's how many. I was in the Juilliard bookshop once and overheard a cashier talking to someone about how he graduated from Juilliard's voice department and had basically been having to rebuild his voice entirely on his own, little by little, a little each day. Just because this is “how it's done” at high levels of study doesn't mean it's effective at creating actual careers. I'm sure you could name a laundry list of people who experienced it who have careers, but I bet if you thought long and hard, you could write a novel simply of names of people who had the same education as them but no career to show for it. These rats' nests fill their beautifully-printed brochures with their successes and bury their failures. It's a business, nothing more. It doesn't matter how many Violettas graduate from the Juilliard School, the Met's not hiring them. They're hiring Diana Damrau. End of story.
@tonshaad1230
@tonshaad1230 5 жыл бұрын
@@longliveclassicmusic this.
@AlexOrozco-Social-Pariah
@AlexOrozco-Social-Pariah 4 жыл бұрын
@@longliveclassicmusic we could ask the same from other old time big singers with the same results, your point is moot and absurd.
@Angela9G
@Angela9G 8 жыл бұрын
ahahahaah come insegnante è severissima :D magnifica :)
@bodiloto
@bodiloto 8 жыл бұрын
ragazzi,il vostro è un mondo dei masochisti veri ...
@Angela9G
@Angela9G 7 жыл бұрын
...
@Angela9G
@Angela9G 7 жыл бұрын
...
@francescasassu2009
@francescasassu2009 4 жыл бұрын
L'ho avuta come insegnante ai corsi di Vignola. Pessima
@gayoperadude63
@gayoperadude63 8 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to repost this with English titles? I sort of understand in my limited Italian what she's asking or looking for
@AlexOrozco-Social-Pariah
@AlexOrozco-Social-Pariah 4 жыл бұрын
Summed up, she expects her students to sing freely and to the front, most of them are prone to ingolate.
@user-qi8bo6me3s
@user-qi8bo6me3s 11 ай бұрын
Потрясающая Мирелла.Все так правильно,надо думать о чем поешь, а мы учим извлекать звуки.
@AntW11
@AntW11 6 жыл бұрын
Freni gives excellent masterclasses. Brava maestra! We need her in the Uk also
@lorenaforero6238
@lorenaforero6238 9 жыл бұрын
Todos los gestos de ella, me hacen recordar a un maestro que tuve. Es difícil entenderles, pero a la final tienen razón de cuál es la manera correcta de cantar.
@bodiloto
@bodiloto 8 жыл бұрын
+Lorena Forero si,è vero! ma quello che conta per un cantante giovane è cosa ha imparato dal suo maestro /come canta/, e di cosa il maestro ha insegnato il suo alunno. il resto è fumo.
@olgaazarcenkova3478
@olgaazarcenkova3478 5 жыл бұрын
Mirella - brava!!!
@dmitrijszinovjevs8389
@dmitrijszinovjevs8389 4 жыл бұрын
She is just excellent!!!
@martamatuszewska6549
@martamatuszewska6549 4 жыл бұрын
Dmitrijs Zinovjevs was...
@dmitrijszinovjevs8389
@dmitrijszinovjevs8389 4 жыл бұрын
@@martamatuszewska6549 she was, is and will be forever...
@carael2005
@carael2005 8 жыл бұрын
Una de las discípulas de la maestra Mirella Freni, la soprano Celia Gómez Bernal nos dice que siempre se debe cantar afuera, no en la gola, olvidar los falsos amigos y no llevar la voz a lugares como la nariz. Siempre a la máscara completa, la voz debe sonar Jóven y con morbidesa. Maestra Freni es sin lugar a duda la mejor Maestra técnicamente hablando y la master Celia Gomez una gran discípula que ha sabido transmitir estos conocimientos. Si llegas a traducir esto amiga estamos en México en un lugar llamado Coatzacoalcos, por que el arte no solo debe residir en lugares de primer mundo, también aquí buscamos la Ópera. Saludos y muy hermoso el trabajo hecho en Rusia.
@joaofernandopaluan
@joaofernandopaluan 3 жыл бұрын
Yo vivi en Coatza. Amo tu país ....amo Coatza.
@carael2005
@carael2005 3 жыл бұрын
@@joaofernandopaluan esta muy cambiado de cuando lo conoció. De ese lugar solo esta un recuerdo. Es feo, pero la verdad ya no es como era en el tiempo que lo conoció.
@katrinaasmr6031
@katrinaasmr6031 3 жыл бұрын
Моя мечта быть певицей 😌
@alinachaxovrina6967
@alinachaxovrina6967 2 жыл бұрын
А ведь Френи здесь оч много лет ! Как же она блистала !
@hiobaname
@hiobaname 4 жыл бұрын
If you want to know who is and was Mirella Freni find here on you tube her aria from La Boheme!Thank me later
@aprilvalente2146
@aprilvalente2146 4 жыл бұрын
The girl in the white dress sings very good
@tarcisiasiniscalchi6641
@tarcisiasiniscalchi6641 4 жыл бұрын
Mirella Freni is an exceptional teacher. She is also funny. She is not mean. She needs to be blunt
@sopranokrismanikan
@sopranokrismanikan 10 жыл бұрын
Great vid! What's the title of the first aria subg by the mezzo? Thanks!
@jannabadalian
@jannabadalian 9 жыл бұрын
"Ah quel giorno ognor rammento" from Rossini's Semiramide.
@sopranokrismanikan
@sopranokrismanikan 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks Janna!
@alegal752
@alegal752 6 жыл бұрын
essere bravi concertisti non vuol dire essere bravi didatti o l opposto. Essere entrambi è una grande dote. In parole povere una scassa maroni. ;D..alla fine della fiera i consigli ben accetti ma, maestri lo diventiamo noi col tempo e l esperienza.
@welcomejsvs
@welcomejsvs 4 жыл бұрын
RIP THE BEST SOPRANO VOICE
@user-xe7rk2hm5b
@user-xe7rk2hm5b 9 жыл бұрын
Очень,очень правильно !Спасибо Мирелла.У нас в России забыли эту школу
@vaskobulgarelli
@vaskobulgarelli 9 жыл бұрын
nel'sya zabyt' togo,chego ne znaesh'..
@bodiloto
@bodiloto 8 жыл бұрын
+наталья попова u vas na Rossii golosa zoloto ! i pedagogov est' ! eto,chto v'y skazali ne pravda !
@user-xe7rk2hm5b
@user-xe7rk2hm5b 8 жыл бұрын
bodiloto правда
@bodiloto
@bodiloto 8 жыл бұрын
наталья попова net.
@user-xe7rk2hm5b
@user-xe7rk2hm5b 8 жыл бұрын
bodiloto это правда.
@mp9967
@mp9967 6 жыл бұрын
@user-rw4op9ni1n
@user-rw4op9ni1n 4 жыл бұрын
Очень верно¡
@NikkySmirnoff
@NikkySmirnoff Жыл бұрын
Френи-отличное лирическое сопрано. Некоторые вещи, которые она говорит очень важны!
@fidelia7031
@fidelia7031 8 жыл бұрын
la prima ragazza che canta è chiaramente un contralto che la freni apostrofa"mezzosoprano"!!!!!e che vuole fare cantare da soprano!!!!!signore pietà,l insegnamento del canto è il mestiere più bello del mondo a saperlo fare.i grandi cantanti cantino,i grandi insegnanti insegnino!
@Dadacomero
@Dadacomero 7 жыл бұрын
un contralto? ma siamo matterelli ?
@bodiloto
@bodiloto 7 жыл бұрын
giulia ciollaro la prima ragazza che canta e' uno mezzosoprano vero,la sua voce non ha il colore e la voce di petto del contralto vero, e' un fatto.
@bodiloto
@bodiloto 7 жыл бұрын
Dedacomero hai ragione .
@numetutelare
@numetutelare 6 жыл бұрын
Assolutamente d'accordo la ragazza non ha colore né timbro e tanto meno i bassi del contralto! La sig.ra Freni é senza dubbio sbrigativa, può risultare perfino sgradevole, ma sa di cosa parla !
@bodiloto
@bodiloto 5 жыл бұрын
GB sono troppo vecchio e per dire la mia verità non ho capito bene qual'è l'utilità di questa masterclass ?! ...
@dttra566
@dttra566 4 жыл бұрын
What Freni is teaching is the correct technique not a preference like some commenters stated. You are not supposed to have an artificial "dark" sound; that's when the sound is all constricted and stuck in the throat and will not project or soar over the orchestra. This is what she's trying to say. You are supposed to sing with your natural speaking voice also called chest voice with proper voice development and techniques to train it to soar far. Have you ever heard street vendors and those market sellers holler? Next time when you go to Chinatown, listen to those market sellers who holler to advertise about their prices right by their fruit stand. They are not big or tall or fat; they are tiny Chinese ladies in their 60's or 70's or short skinny men and yet you hear what they are trying to holler clearly miles away over the traffic noise, the sirens, everything. You might not understand what they are yelling at but you hear them Why? Because they are using their chest voice. Of course they don't realize it because they just want people to come to buy their stuff but that's what they are doing. They are actually using their voice in the most efficient way to project over a huge space through a long distance over other noises. Opera is the same thing. They are singing to try to tell a story to a huge audience over a vast amount of space over lots of noise (the orchestra). So if the most effective way for street vendors to get themselves heard in a huge space over other noises is to use chest voice, shouldn't opera singers do the same thing? Instead of using these fake "dark" sound? Maybe we should go back to the old days and have opera productions without microphones, then all of those opera singers and students would appreciate what Freni is trying to teach them and the bad singers and those bad teachers who are teaching the wrong technique to potential young singers can be finally weeded out.
@lospazio
@lospazio 9 жыл бұрын
It is difficult to understand how somebody can be at the same time one of the greatest voices the world has ever heard and such a coarse and vulgar person.
@liilu8
@liilu8 5 жыл бұрын
you have to be vulgar and coarse person to survive in this tough business...its a rough profession...
@AlexOrozco-Social-Pariah
@AlexOrozco-Social-Pariah 4 жыл бұрын
You expect to dominate mind over matter just with kisses and hugs and no criticism? Grow up, life is tough and art is way tougher.
@pedroarthurbarbosa
@pedroarthurbarbosa 4 жыл бұрын
Vulgar person? 🙄🙄🙄
@niuldo
@niuldo Ай бұрын
Adoro Mirella Freni come cantante, ma è fin troppo severa, le voci e la tecnica di questi giovani cantanti è molto buona. Lei non può insegnare a cantare come faceva lei, una voce naturale già di suo, senza neanche una zona di passaggio.... Perché comunque anche questi giovani sono bravissimi
@yosivladi4018
@yosivladi4018 3 жыл бұрын
САМАЯ ГЛАВНАЯ ИСТИНА - "ПОЙ КАК ГОВОРИШЬ" И ТОГДА КСТАТИ ВСЕ СЛОВА БУДУТ ЯСНЫ. ПЕТЬ НАДО СВОБОДНО, А НЕ ВЫЖИМАТЬ ЗВУКИ. В ЭТОМ МНЕ И НЕ НРАВИТСЯ ОПЕРА. МНЕ НРАВЯТСЯ ОПЕРНЫЕ ПЕВЦЫ, КОТОРЫЕ УМЕЮТ ПЕТЬ СИЛЬНО И ЯСНО И ВСЕ ЭТО ЕСТЕСТВЕННО. ПЕНИЕ ДОЛЖНО БЫТЬ ЕСТЕСТВЕННЫМ , В ЭТОМ ИСТИНА.
@reactive88000
@reactive88000 2 жыл бұрын
Hermoso
@GG_2024
@GG_2024 4 жыл бұрын
Mirella Freni hat immer etwas billiges in ihrer Stimme gehabt. Jetzt weiss ich warum - das ist eine sehr einfache Persönlichkeit, die sich wie eine Bäkereifachverkäuferin benimmt. Hut ab für die Ruhe und die Selbstbeherschung der jungen Sängerin, die eine tolle Stimme hat.
@anaisabellazo5300
@anaisabellazo5300 9 жыл бұрын
Tiene razón en lo que dice a los cantantes, pero hay mil y una formas de decir las cosas, que sea la grande Freni, cantante a quién personalmente he admirado siempre, no le da el derecho de ridiculizar así a las personas.
@cinziazanovello666
@cinziazanovello666 9 жыл бұрын
È troppo peccato che ci siano dei cantanti che dopo la carriera non sono pronti di aiutare i giovani cantanti. Si potrebbe profitarne tanto, invece la Freni fa finta di non aver mai avuto problemi o di non esser mai stata studente. Tra l'altro mi ha spaventata la sua voce rauca! Era molto scradevole guardarla. E la frase: ,,vai, vai a casa!": senza ogni rispetto!:(
@bodiloto
@bodiloto 3 жыл бұрын
Cinzia Zanovello parole sante .
@merceB
@merceB 4 жыл бұрын
I love the first singer, she looks so enthusiastic, humble and nice, and although she has been severely criticized, with what sympathy she greets Mirella Freni at the end! The problem is that she tries to sing like Elena Obraztsova, and she is not Obraztsova; specially her chest voice sounds fake and ingolata. Her name is Natalia Zimina and if you search KZfaq you'll find she actually insists on singing the way Mireia Freni criticizes her. If she sang more freely, I think she would sing much better.
@ER1CwC
@ER1CwC 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t agree with how Freni was trying to get them to direct the sound into the mask. However, she was absolutely correct about trying to get them outside of their throats and to sing more forward. I think the problem is that she doesn’t really know how to actually explain to them how to sing forward. Getting them to hear the wrong sound is important, and she clearly succeeded in doing that. But it would have been more helpful had she been able to talk more technically about what to do with the tongue, the lips, etc., rather than just gesturing at the teeth and hard palate, making a forward gesture, and saying ‘libero.’ Part of the issue perhaps is that she is Italian, and Italian speakers don’t have to adjust the placement of the vowels, whereas the speakers of other languages, especially those that are more backwards in placement (like apparently Russian), must. Another issue might have been that she was so talented, and thus didn’t really have to ‘figure out’ how to sing correctly. Her communication style is too blunt for North American students. But the Russian students here seem to have taken her comments in good stride.
@deannasilva484
@deannasilva484 4 жыл бұрын
signora Mirella ci mancherà tanto davvero
@jhernandez16
@jhernandez16 4 жыл бұрын
I think Freni knows what a good technique should sound like. Just doesn't really know how to explain it properly. Mirelli herself actual doesn't place the sound but she is leading the students down the wrong path and then saying, nope that's the wrong path.
@AlexOrozco-Social-Pariah
@AlexOrozco-Social-Pariah 4 жыл бұрын
How would anyone explain it properly? With medical technisisms of foldings and laringeous muscle names? Sticking her fingers into the singer's throat? It is the singer's job to sensibilize themselves to sound frequencies and muscle memory in order to understand what she is asking but everyones too afraid of experimenting with their voices and extremely allergic to criticism nowadays. There's also this very same problem even in Callas' masterclasses with one mezzosoprano, she starts skolding Callas for asking her to sing more free and fluently as if Callas was the wrong one and not her. SINGERS OF TODAY ARE USED TO INGOLATION rather than singing with their real voices.
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