Master the Shooting Board

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FineWoodworking

FineWoodworking

11 жыл бұрын

A hand tool pro demonstrates his tips and techniques for using a shooting board to true up furniture parts. Visit www.FineWoodworking.com for more woodworking technique videos.

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@doyalkrishna5656
@doyalkrishna5656 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely by FAR the best instructional video and concept for shooting boards!
@davidclark9086
@davidclark9086 7 жыл бұрын
This is probably the best video on shooting boards in all KZfaq. Thanks.
@jonludwig8233
@jonludwig8233 9 жыл бұрын
This was asked a couple of times here so I'll try to answer it: the reason the plane does not continually take shavings off of the edge of the shooting board is because the blade does not extend the full width of the plane sole. There is about 1/4" at the bottom of the edge of the board that does not get planed away and keeps the sole of the plane at a fixed distance (the amount the blade is extended) from the rest of the edge. In other words if you look at the profile of the edge it will be L-shaped.
@davefribush5992
@davefribush5992 3 жыл бұрын
I love this video. Not only is it good information, but the efficiency of presentation is really appreciated.
@mvred100
@mvred100 6 жыл бұрын
I agree with D Clark; this is one of the best shooting board videos on KZfaq. I love the simplicity of the board and easy of making adjustments when they become out of true.
@learnerlearns
@learnerlearns 10 жыл бұрын
Wow! This is one of the BEST FW videos yet! I've been using shooting boards for 45 years and this guy showed me some new tricks! Tim Rousseau... You ROCK!
@theblokevlog352
@theblokevlog352 6 ай бұрын
Over the decades I've made loads of these things; this one is several light years ahead of all the rest!
@deemdoubleu
@deemdoubleu 2 жыл бұрын
I saw this 5 years ago and forgot about it. Funny how the most basic things can be made so complicated by so many people. This is just genius.
@stochasmvid
@stochasmvid 10 жыл бұрын
Nice! Simple, versatile, and tunable.
@pinkiewerewolf
@pinkiewerewolf 10 жыл бұрын
Great shooting boards. Very versatile, tunable, and adjustable. Shooting board fences are sacrificial in nature and I like the way your SB takes that into consideration, no Glued/screwed fence. The fence is quickly flushed each time you take it out for use.
@trueleyes
@trueleyes 5 жыл бұрын
I have soon so many examples of shooting boards BUT yours is without a doubt the very BEST I have seen. I have long learned by experience that often times the most complicated and of fancy is not always the best and in fact is usually not good at all in the long run. The simplest is often the best for a multitude of reasons. Funny how this happened because I'm going into my shop tomorrow to make a new shooting board and having seen your video I'm going to make m,y new shooting board in the same design as you have shown here with perhaps some changes in dimensions in this video. BRAVO! I am so glad I saw this video before I made my new one.
@arboristBlairGlenn
@arboristBlairGlenn 10 жыл бұрын
Not only is the information valuable, the presentation is very well done. Thank for this. Blair
@awbg34q23g2
@awbg34q23g2 8 жыл бұрын
I'm amazed every day with the ease with which one can pick up new knowledge. Back in the day you'd have to spend years apprenticing to pick up a tenth of what's available just on KZfaq. Just wow. Maybe someday I'll actually build something with all of this new found knowledge :P
@redkin1960
@redkin1960 8 жыл бұрын
Great shooting board. I did this. It allows you to make very precise angles.
@benjyholmes3598
@benjyholmes3598 8 жыл бұрын
Props for the vid! It finally helped me figure out something I was stuck with. I haven't started with Hyezmar's Woodworking Bible yet, but I googled and downloaded the book. Looks fun too!
@edcaffey4248
@edcaffey4248 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing... Excellent process.
@icespeckledhens
@icespeckledhens 9 жыл бұрын
I have not seen one like that before and its interesting. Thanks for the idea
@Kevinsph1
@Kevinsph1 4 жыл бұрын
That's a great shooting board design.
@desarrollojava
@desarrollojava 8 жыл бұрын
Excelent, simple and beauty.
@vincepresto759
@vincepresto759 5 жыл бұрын
LOVIT ! Very Nice Info that just makes sense, Thx’s for sharing !
@trackie1957
@trackie1957 3 жыл бұрын
Before you use your plane on a shooting board, make sure to break the edge on the side of the iron. That thing can be quite sharp. I learned this the hard way when I noticed my hand was bleeding after pushing my plane with my hand on on top of it. You can also put a strip of tape on the exposed edge.
@deemdoubleu
@deemdoubleu 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent to the point video
@GrahamOrm
@GrahamOrm 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent. Thank you.
@watermain48
@watermain48 7 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Thank you.
@fouroakfarm
@fouroakfarm 11 жыл бұрын
Nice design; seems very versatile
@sebuteo
@sebuteo 5 жыл бұрын
Really good video. My first shooting board, made yesterday, was glued and screwed together. And besides that it was rubbish! I'm going to have another go, and copy this design!
@sandrinevictorialilylouben7372
@sandrinevictorialilylouben7372 9 жыл бұрын
Great shooting board :) I'll try it
@TonKuipers134
@TonKuipers134 2 жыл бұрын
Thx, great tutorial
@franciscojaviercortesyrami5184
@franciscojaviercortesyrami5184 2 жыл бұрын
simple and excellent
@SeanKelly1
@SeanKelly1 7 жыл бұрын
I'm really jazzed to make one of these. The idea of more interchangeable parts fence wise is interesting. My question is what is the height of the "thin strip" that is "let in" as the fixed base that the fence rides on? Talking about planing 1/8" stock against it makes it sound really really thin. Is there a particular species of wood you recommend for this? It seems like this would be the weak ling in this aparatus--is it glued down or is it also a friction fit? To my inexpert eye it seems like one would want to be able to replace that piece.
@9714jade
@9714jade 7 жыл бұрын
thank you so much
@davidmackv3
@davidmackv3 10 жыл бұрын
Very nice informational video.
@js-gy4tz
@js-gy4tz 9 жыл бұрын
This video is outstanding, Its simple and too the point, perfect for my needs. I 'm sick of storing all the stuff you should make for your shop. Can I also add a drop of water to the wood when shooting a 45 on the board. Thanks great job
@mggcomputers
@mggcomputers 9 жыл бұрын
is that a stanley plane iw would love to know what brand that is thaks for the video
@Bruno089100
@Bruno089100 6 жыл бұрын
You can make a dado in the transversal wood for put in the vertex, for the miter shooting board
@Bbendfender
@Bbendfender 7 жыл бұрын
I like this. I'm going to build one, or two.
@andrewgarratt5191
@andrewgarratt5191 5 жыл бұрын
Best I’ve seen.
@craigmedvecky4590
@craigmedvecky4590 2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to add my WOW to everyone else's. Thank you.
@kevinchamberlain7928
@kevinchamberlain7928 11 жыл бұрын
Good stuff ta!
@Offshoreorganbuilder
@Offshoreorganbuilder 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Some interesting and original ideas, here. I have used a shooting-board for about 40 years, and wouldn't be able to work without it. You cannot function as a woodworker without one. (Unless you are just a machinist, of course.)
@tarsierl8039
@tarsierl8039 4 жыл бұрын
That's the best video about woodworking I saw for ages. Simple, quick and very usefull. Thanks !
@beantown_billy2405
@beantown_billy2405 Ай бұрын
0:20 applies to a lot of things in life
@HeartPumper
@HeartPumper 5 жыл бұрын
2:34 this is actually, how flat & smooth that surface is. Awesome!!!
@omartol
@omartol 10 жыл бұрын
muy bueno
@frogsoda
@frogsoda 9 жыл бұрын
2:35 Love how the plane is so flat that it creates a vacuum that lifts the board he's planing.
@nunyabisnass1141
@nunyabisnass1141 5 жыл бұрын
frogsoda also require very flat even boards which is more difficult than I've been able to achieve so far.
@MJFAN666
@MJFAN666 4 жыл бұрын
Dont think so.. could be due to shaving stuck in the blade..
@nutsmcflurry3737
@nutsmcflurry3737 4 жыл бұрын
Naa, the friction of the weight of the plane is dragging the light weight wood backwards.
@myob541
@myob541 10 жыл бұрын
How do you square up your plane blade?
@nunyabisnass1141
@nunyabisnass1141 5 жыл бұрын
The key is to build for the suit of your purposes and environment. The work shop I work out of is also an anything fab shop so it had to be useful on a variety of work benches/tables of different heights, and had to be extra long for the drawer faces I need to join. Its not the easiest to work with for both reasons and isn't pretty, but it works and works well. It requires indexing the work against the plane sole on the bottom edge, and because the base is a 1/32 higher than the plane track, the iron leaves a 1/32 lip on the bottom edge (easy enough to deal with). The only problem I actually care about is how these types of tools confine the contact surface of the plane, wearing out that specific area of the iron requiring higher sharpening frequency. I may make a screw adjustable base rise to change the angle of the work to make use of the entire iron surface, but it will do for what I need now.
@willford8475
@willford8475 11 жыл бұрын
Excellent, really well explained. Do you have your own KZfaq channel? Thanks
@HiltonRalphs
@HiltonRalphs 11 жыл бұрын
One possible improvement could be to miter the left end of the block on both corners. Use this end when you want to shoot miters. You won't have to measure for 45 as the one mitered corner will butt up against the stop leaving the other corner exactly at 45 and flush with the bottom board. Hope you know what I mean?
@whirled_peas
@whirled_peas 9 ай бұрын
They don’t go out of square if you use UHMW tape to run on
@MrZOMBIE170
@MrZOMBIE170 5 жыл бұрын
in my college in scotland a Shooting Board is a plywood board with sand paper glue to it use for sand end grain square weird that
@markluxton3402
@markluxton3402 11 ай бұрын
Instead of aligning and clamping your fence block to get 45 degrees, I suggest one of two changes. One, you could make a second fence that installs exactly as the first, but is 45 degrees...or adjustable even! Second idea, would be to make your fence with a slot on both sides, adding a 45 degree slot to the top of yours. Hmmmm, needs an adjustable ramp too............???
@dericcornflakes
@dericcornflakes 11 жыл бұрын
I like this! I'll need to glue a bottom piece of ply wider than the top piece instead of running the plane on the bench. My bench is less than a smooth even surface.
@phatthand
@phatthand 5 жыл бұрын
So in example 3 where you want to butt 2 boards together, what prevents the handheld boards from being planed convex or concave that always happens to me.
@just-dl
@just-dl 5 жыл бұрын
if I understand your question, I think that's an issue with the blade "geometry" ie, it ain't flat enough! Also, double check the "shelf" the plane is riding on. If it's not EXACTLY 90* you could get some weird results. If it's measuring right, but, you're getting bad results, check with a second square. I had a square at 88* (plus or minus)....
@brandonmathiassweet3284
@brandonmathiassweet3284 6 жыл бұрын
This is a beautiful shooting board. Going to give this a try soon rather than micro adjust with painters tape constantly.
@williambranham6249
@williambranham6249 5 жыл бұрын
I use painters tape on mine. Works great for me.
@gcbound
@gcbound 7 жыл бұрын
This should be obvious to me, but the block you're using for the fence here is walnut - is that correct? I've tried building one of the more traditional shooting board versions with a glued oak fence and I had trouble taking shavings off the end grain with that when I was first getting it setup.
@gcbound
@gcbound 6 жыл бұрын
The appearance of the end grain at: 3:24 looks regular enough that the block could be plywood? I'm curious if there's any advantage to using solid wood for that block vs. something laminated? You can edge plane both (to flush/square), no?
@MrJlough8788
@MrJlough8788 10 жыл бұрын
"without breakout" 3:37 scared the poop outta me
@pinkiewerewolf
@pinkiewerewolf 10 жыл бұрын
Why?
@MrJlough8788
@MrJlough8788 10 жыл бұрын
It was dubbed in after the video and sounded much lower pitched than the rest of it. Just startled me with headphones in.
@pinkiewerewolf
@pinkiewerewolf 10 жыл бұрын
Ahhhh, makes sense now.
@JontoDickens
@JontoDickens 9 жыл бұрын
Could someone tell me what that clamp/vise looking object was on the bench at the start with the more conventional looking shooting boards? I have seen one in a local second hand shop but the only thing the owner could tell me was that it's some kind of woodworking contraption. If I knew it's particular use I might just need to have one in my workspace. Thanks
@truebluekit
@truebluekit 9 жыл бұрын
Jonto Dickens The one on the left at 0:05? I'm not sure, and I've never seen it before, but it looks like a cross between a donkey's ear shooting board and a clamp. You could clamp your work between the two jaws. If you had an irregular piece, it wouldn't sit well in a normal donkey's ear board. Like this, you could place something irregular or thick in the jaws, and then register your chisel along the rail and do work on your piece. I might be wrong, but maybe you could test it out at that shop.
@BlackBearForge
@BlackBearForge 9 жыл бұрын
Jonto Dickens It's called a miter jack. Sort of like a shooting board but just for 45 degree angles
@rafezetter8003
@rafezetter8003 9 жыл бұрын
@ TKARLMANN: The only type of plane you would use on the shooting board is one that has a "closed" mouth, meaning any plane that is NOT designed to cut rebates or shoulders where the blade goes to the VERY EDGE of the side of the plane (an "open" mouth). What happens is when the shooting board is used for the very first time the plane blade will indeed cut into the side of the shooting board BUT and here's the important bit - it will only do so where blade touches wood, where the blade mouth "closed" sides are (the thickness of the side walls of the plane) NO CUTTING will occur. This will create a very small micro rebate and the plane base then rides along the protruding part of it (a rubbing edge). Of course if you continued to advance the blade more cutting would occur into you stopped, and that would indeed compromise the usage of the shooting board side - but the reality is for ANY planes used on a shooting board, the blade cutting depth is set to take a very fine cut, as no more is needed, thus preserving the rubbing edge. Hope that clears that up!
@rafezetter8003
@rafezetter8003 Жыл бұрын
@@tjn8844 Yes - generally people tend to use the same plane on a shooting board to this reason, using different planes that can have different sidewall thicknesses will compromise the rubbing strip. In years past Stanley Bailey used to make a "shooting plane", and they are still around, but you'll be lucky to buy one for less than £1000 - so most people generall use a #4. #5 or maybe a #6 as it has a bit more mass to it, so requires a bit less effort.
@billyvigil7664
@billyvigil7664 5 жыл бұрын
What’s the best planes to use for shooting boards I have a Stanley no 4 5 and 6 and block planes no low angle ones yet
@williambranham6249
@williambranham6249 5 жыл бұрын
I use a shooting board daily. I like the # 6 since it is the heaviest of the 3. Also use a very shallow cut, tight mouth and blade edge is square to length of blade. But in reality any of the 3 will work. Make sure the side of the plane is at 90 degrees to the sole.
@billyvigil7664
@billyvigil7664 5 жыл бұрын
William Branham thank you
@italianguitargarage708
@italianguitargarage708 5 жыл бұрын
@FineWoodworking what plane is that? A n.7?
@FineWoodworking
@FineWoodworking 5 жыл бұрын
Looks like a Stanley Bedrock 607?
@JoshGarrisiDadMakesThings
@JoshGarrisiDadMakesThings 11 жыл бұрын
watching you plane, I realized... I need to get better at sharpening. what is your preferred sharpening method?
@AndrewCalhoun
@AndrewCalhoun 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone else realizing the same thing, right *after* you master sharpening, rub a little candle wax across your plane’s sole (and side if using a shooting board). Be warned that this makes the actual motion of planing *so* much easier that you might not be as motivated to master sharpening, or keep your blade as sharp.
@aljazeera52
@aljazeera52 11 жыл бұрын
the plane on the bench
@user-bw4rr4kd9n
@user-bw4rr4kd9n 10 жыл бұрын
Does the shooting board has a step down on the lower part? Do to push the plane against the plywood or you plane on the air?
@pinkiewerewolf
@pinkiewerewolf 10 жыл бұрын
If I understand your question, you would use your bench as the surface that the plane rides on. If that bothered you then you could put down a protective sheet. ie., MDF. plywood, etc...
@hspringsteen
@hspringsteen 9 жыл бұрын
pinkiewerewolf My question is. Does the plane bite into the plywood that is the base of the SB? Or can you easily figure out when you are close, and don't continually take bits of the SB off when you are shooting another board?
@deezynar
@deezynar 8 жыл бұрын
+Howard Springsteen A regular bench plane is wider than the blade. The narrow bit of the sole that's to the right side of the blade rubs against the base plate of the shooting board and stops the plane from continuing to cut deeper. The blade removes a rabbit that's only as deep as the blade extends from the sole.
@ericbader7998
@ericbader7998 7 жыл бұрын
Howard Springsteen
@joekind1
@joekind1 3 жыл бұрын
The mitre board is best.
@wingwalker007
@wingwalker007 8 жыл бұрын
When you're planing aren't you also planing the side of the board at the bottom?
@FineWoodworking
@FineWoodworking 8 жыл бұрын
+wingwalker007 If the blade of the plane went to the edge of the plane you would but since there is a shoulder there it will only plane into a little bit of the bottom board. Once the edge of the plane bottoms out on the lip of the bottom board it will not plane deeper into that board.
@madwilliamflint
@madwilliamflint 8 жыл бұрын
Ah, so the primary "base" board starts thicker than the shoulder width between the iron and the edge of the plane, leading the shooting board to have a step where it's tuned to a particular plane? I'm just starting out and that was bugging me to death. But that makes sense.
@FineWoodworking
@FineWoodworking 8 жыл бұрын
You got it!
@madwilliamflint
@madwilliamflint 8 жыл бұрын
FineWoodworking Excellent, thanks. I started to build one yesterday and realized I'd never thought it through that far.
@mallavable
@mallavable 7 жыл бұрын
I suppose this method assumes your bench is flat and will keep the plane at 90 degrees in reference to the shooting board. Or am I missing something here?
@brandonmathiassweet3284
@brandonmathiassweet3284 6 жыл бұрын
lateral adjustment on the plane can account for micro adjustments.
@jonsoncw
@jonsoncw 2 жыл бұрын
Damn can I come work for you? You hiring lol
@AndrewKimmey
@AndrewKimmey 8 жыл бұрын
Your planes cut so effortlessly. I sharpen and hone my plane iron up to the 8000 grit Norton waterstone, and even then I can't make cuts as effortlessly as that.
@gravitysports1
@gravitysports1 7 жыл бұрын
Are you removing the burr as gently as possible? Starting with the blade set in and very gradually advancing it till it just barely cuts? Rubbing candle wax on the sole and side of the plane? Also a frog that doesn't fit right can play havoc.
@AndrewKimmey
@AndrewKimmey 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I go slowly and gently when I'm honing the iron. Wax yes, advancing until it barely cuts yet, but... as for as the frog is concerned, how can you tell if it's not positioned properly? When I got the plane I removed the frog to clean all of the machining oil out of that area, and I suppose it could be slightly off now.
@Mike-in3cq
@Mike-in3cq 7 жыл бұрын
Andrew Kimmey I too am having that issue. I just put together a shooting board yesterday and am having trouble getting it to cut as effortlessly as all of the videos I've seen so far. I'm using an old Stanley no. 5. I see a lot of guys using a low angle. Is that the only way to cut end grain easily?
@johnraffensperger
@johnraffensperger 2 жыл бұрын
Rob Cosgrove trick: wax your plane
@MJFAN666
@MJFAN666 4 жыл бұрын
The perfect shaves.. bruh
@scarmenl
@scarmenl 10 жыл бұрын
My only shooting board is with bullet holes in it. Grin.
@williambranham6249
@williambranham6249 5 жыл бұрын
My kind of humor!
@tkarlmann
@tkarlmann 9 жыл бұрын
I've always wondered why the shooting board is not ruined when used. It seems as if the largest board gets planed away in use. You did not address this point.
@deezynar
@deezynar 8 жыл бұрын
I don't see an advantage over traditional shooting boards. You can take the stop out of a traditional board and trim it too. I have no problem with storing two shooting boards, the one for miters is not very big. And I really don't like using a tool that requires me to clamp something at a critical angle every time I use it. Finally, his using a shooting board as a planning stop only shows that his bench doesn't have a good planning stop built in.
@Zepheriah
@Zepheriah 8 жыл бұрын
This guy's obviously pretty experienced so I don't mean to cast aspersions, but every time his bench wobbles it makes me literally squirm.
@nunyabisnass1141
@nunyabisnass1141 5 жыл бұрын
D. Tysen me too. That's why some of us have to rely on good tools to offset the skill difference. But that kind of adversity makes one a much better craftsperson overall.
@columbiapolitan
@columbiapolitan 6 жыл бұрын
shooting board? more like shooting hottie :)
@diowk
@diowk 5 жыл бұрын
3:36: whoa, what just happened there... lol
@gabagoolenjoyer
@gabagoolenjoyer 2 жыл бұрын
I talked to barzini
@joekind1
@joekind1 3 жыл бұрын
I never heard of a shooting board.
@gunterwerner3552
@gunterwerner3552 4 жыл бұрын
P
@owensarpard5575
@owensarpard5575 Жыл бұрын
Wow and I thought Christian Bale was only great at acting
@bighands69
@bighands69 3 жыл бұрын
Not convinced by that at all.
@flynnpaul26
@flynnpaul26 4 жыл бұрын
That is about the lamest shooting board, I think the poster hated shooting boards, so he made the most non-shooting board shooting board he could think of. Just buy the the Veritas shooting board!
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