What is your mastering plugin chain?

I know what you mean about companies coming out with new plugins instead of updating/upgrading existing ones. My take on this is, if they updated or upgraded a plugin to add new features, then it's not the same plugin anymore, is it? Changing anything "under the hood" would probably change the "sound" and "feel". If they replaced Masterdesk with Masterdesk Pro (i.e. make Masterdesk unavailable/unsupported) they'd probably get some customers saying they ruined it.

I think I must have about every Bx plugin they've done and a lot of it has done good work. But Masterdesk I never got around to using. As I learned how to mix (and I'm still learning that's for sure!), I got used to and liking having separate Fx for compression, EQ, saturation, stereo widening, limiting etc on the master channel. Masterdesk seemed only suitable for a very quick result but even then I wasn't that impressed with the results. And anyway I had Izotope Ozone 9 for knocking up a quick master channel mix. I did though find myself using bx_limiter True Peak as a limiter I liked a lot, so that was good. And now this Masterdesk PRO has arrived, but it seems to me to take something good (bx_limiter True Peak) and mash it in with a lot of other stuff that is probably better done,. and is more easily understood and adjusted, using separate plugins. For those though who are new to mixing, this new product might appear seductive, and they may fall in to using it without discovering the fun of working with separate Fx (including trying out different ones) for each element in the master channel Fx chain. So really, this product is I think not really where aspiring mix engineers would be well advised to go. I mean, Ozone will do a very capable job at producing a quick master channel mix, and it will use separate components to do it that are nicely laid out, easy to inspect and to adjust so that you can learn what each is doing. And even then, I prefer to do my own Fx chains from a wide range of options rather than be confined to Izotope. So I think, sadly, this product is probably just warmed over beas (and not the tastiest of beans either). Which is a shame, becuase with my loyalty voucher and todays offer I could get it for about $29.But if all it does is clutter up my Fx collection, muddy the waters, lie around unused or else require me to learn yet another mysterious plugin, then its a false bargain really 🙄

Master desk is a gem.... my -14 lufs was the same as a commercial - 9lufs

Thanks for the review, its a little hard to follow, you tend to get sidetracked a lot, maybe have a friend kind of do an anti-sidetrack check so it stays on track. Couldn't figure out why you had all the other plugins going if you were reviewing the masterdesk pro. But overall, it was helpful.

masterdesk is just great, the pro is a kind of marketing stuff. Masterdesk was given for free a few months ago. Masterpiece

Later in your video (around 4:55) you said, when comparing Masterdesk and Masterdesk Pro and Masterdesk True Peak, "They all don't sound the same". That's exactly my point. Previous versions have their sound (warmth, harshness, coloration, and "feel" etc.) locked in. So yeah, a NEW version makes sense over an "updated" version. Makes sense?

I find the old version more than adequate. If I'm honest... the thing I like most about bx_masterdesk is its simplicity. e.g. the Tilt-EQ ("Foundation"). I don't find the limiter in Masterdesk Pro very good, it doesn't stand a chance against Fabfilter or Limitless. That's why it's more for very fast masterings, otherwise I prefer individual plug-ins.

how this compares to master plan? that would be a great video

Friend, question: How much should the input signal be for this type of plugin to work optimally?

Yeah, the top end has a shrillness to it with it in every demo I've heard. The original doesn't have the issue. Passing on this one. (own countless PA stuff plus top end analog)

can't for masterdesk pro super plus v4 .. P.A just money grabbing for beginners