*carguing

Not controversial !

If it was, I might not have clicked the video. I always look at the times and ask myself if I want to spend that time on it. Would've been worth it though.

I will second *and* third that.

That is why you can upload a private extending video containing the content that others do not want to see. I don't see a point against it - or is there anything against that algorithm-wise?

xd

Sounds like calvin ball

Took me a minute to understand, but wow yeah that's ominous

Sounds like US to me,

Don't get it 🤔

Not the smartest thing, no

Also it seems like bad advice in general. You shouldn't really jump off something if you're not certain it's safe.

Nathan Kurtz ah, but that’s not what it says. It says “when it feels *scary* to jump”, not “when it *doesn’t seem safe* to jump” :p When you’re afraid to do something, provided it’s generally non-deadly, it’s probably a good idea to face your fears.

@@kavertia6261 Noice!

Typical Canterbury

Isn't bog also Irish slang for mouth?

SWGYArnold you might mean gob

Someone thankfully put in the captions.

Someone thankfully put the captions

I didn't get it until I happened to scroll by this comment while they were talking about it.

Daye Gordon reminds me of that but on qi when they're joking about how no one knows how the scoring system works

There isn't a scoring system until (or unless) you're winning.

it's a smart thing... you wouldn't understand...

well technically the human brain can only really process 4 things at once

also tom: uses tp wrong

@@TheExplodingBacon oh shut the hell up Einstein

@@kevinruston1558 towards the wall, ALWAYS TOWARDS THE WALL

He's lying. He came unto this earth fifty years ago fully formed

TiMelessToMTM

How is this man, whose hair you can literally see become grey if you watch his videos chronologically, Timeless Tom?

HE'S TRYING TO PUT IT BEHIND HIM.

Just sort his videos by oldest and you’ll have a slight shock

my muslim southeast asian self: water?

@@Aldiyawak Me, a Southeast Asian Catholic: "Holy water?"

Also: Tom is a 'matic man.

@@Aldiyawak agreed

@@Aldiyawak water then bog roll

That’s more of a suggestion for how to improve the “game”.

How would AI go about playing this game?

Sorry for being "that guy", but I'd reward hack the crap out of that game.

I need to make an alt account for commenting don't I

If you do, I suggest going by Miles Robert and adding a mustache to your profile picture.

I completely agree with him.

I read this as he said it.

Anthony Martire Haha, same!

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If you forget how it is like being a kid, you will be a bad parent.

The "bog" is a UK slang term for the toilet. Therefore "bog roll" means toilet paper.

@@EightThreeEight Thanks

Yeah, i had trouble ven making out what the word was, had to turn on the subtitles, still went "The flip's a bog roll" then noticed the subtitles said something extra but it went by so fast i had to go back and frame advance until i caught what it said...

I heard Bovril and was super confused for a minute

@@EightThreeEight anti Irish racism strikes again

They're the same person secretly

@@andrewenderfrost8161 I was about to comment exactly the same thing

Nah tom isn’t a coffee cultist

@@chadfalkin6850 that's just part of his cover to keep most ppl from realizing that each of his personalities has managed this much KZfaq success. The question though becomes which one of them is using it as a cover; does he actually hate coffee for real and Grey is secretly drinking decaf or is Grey the true manifestation and the caffeinephobic Tom is really a coffee maniac once the camera is off.

He is right

Wait so what is an adult

What the ? Big tornadoes of destruction

We now know, he doesn't want any

What the ? *b i g b o y s*

It's all I want on my burger, TBH. Don't need any leaves with ideas beyond their standing in there.

You're garbage,

@@catfish552 and you're garbage,

@@zyaicob Careful, or I'll turn YOU into a burger.

@@catfish552 That... is very cursed

Constantinople, 1054 ohhh my god it took me a while to get the euphemism.

don't be homophobic

Sid Arthur I cant tell if this is a joke

The original patent had a diagram showing the intent was always for the TP to go OVER.

@@Varksterable not the intent, an example

Sadly people like you don't love their fellow humans, and I hate people like that.

@Sarah Cannon I see what you did there.

Irony.

;)

Only a sith speaks in absolutes

MeowGrump YOU ARE NOT HELPING

I see what you did their I pronounce it differently depending how I use it

I just realized that I pronounce it both ways.

naither neither

I originally used eether and neether, but then I switched to aither and naither. Of course, it's my second or third language, so I don't use it as much and I can play with it.

Matt and Tom Tom's toilet way is right and will always be right

you should apologise for being a toilet paper heathen instead

Controversial Topic: Matt and Tom videos should be released on Saturday, and today is Friday. Serious question though, why is the video a day early?

Tahgtahv, or is the video 6 days late? Check the date when Tom posted this comment ;)

Matt and Tom the best chip or fries topping is gravy and cheese curds, no matter what anyone says, poutine is the best type of fries

His poor mother...

@@silverrraven5349 she kept him in there for years

@@meetaverma8372 Dw. He wasn't born, he just spawned in!

@@GumSkyloard how does that work

He’s born, immediately looks at a camera and goes “I’m in a hospital, the interesting thing about this place…”

Exactly, his argument is essentially that it's too user friendly when it's the correct way around.

TOWARDS THE WALL. And if anyone does it away, I will find you

@@Near_Void The original patent has a diagram showing it to be Away from the wall. Can't argue with in inventions.

@@Near_Void Mate, if you put it towards the wall you are a Neanderthal, and I doubt you'd be able to find your own arse, let alone mine. :D

@@Varksterable [Devil's advocate] The original pronunciation of GIF was JIF and they were wrong.

you mean brake

I thought that was a mistake-- I see the joke now

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Yes.

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+ Yes, this definitely needs a sequel

what, do you browse un(popular) opinions everyday or what? not to be rude

@@iincidious I find a lot of controversial opinions are just posted on social media, whether I was looking for them or not.

You say either and I say eyether You say neether and I say nyther Eether, eyether, neether, nyther Let's call the whole thing off!

What is this mystical third pronunciation of neither? 😂

Sonja Nahaeeether

Etymologically speaking, and Tom should know better for this too, 'either' and 'neither' should be pronounced with an 'eye' sound.

@@sonja5058 neiyeeyeeither

What episode is that?

That study would have to be weirdly done to be accurate in the USA it couldn't just go off statistics. In the US it is very difficult to find a manual car so any one that has one would have had to seek it out and would be more inclined automotively then the person who just picks buys the most readily available car.

I drove a manual for about 2 decades. I've now had an automatic for a year and a half. From time to time I _still_ find my left foot attempting to stamp on the clutch and my left hand reaching for the gears to shift down. The sudden shock and recoil when I realise what I've just done has nearly caused far more accidents then manual shifting ever did. I guess that's just because it is _so_ ingrained in my brain how to switch gears in a manual car. I feel that if you can't master manual gear changes then there's a good chance you have neither the road-awareness nor the motor skills/coordination to be driving anyway. If simply changing gears is too distracting for you, then you definitely won't be able to cope with the many unexpected events and distractions which happen nearly constantly while driving today. Also, a manual gearbox makes using a mobile phone (without hands free) while driving significantly harder, which can only be a Good Thing. (Yes; that is illegal in the UK. But it's amazing how often you still see people doing it. Often the kind of person who is stuck in the middle lane on a motorway, driving slightly erratically, and completely oblivious to the lane-swapping chaos going on just behind them.)

@@Varksterable I think people who argue for automatic as default, like Tom, are under the impression that people have to take their eyes off the road to look at the gearbox or something to change gears... Gods no, i know that the car has five gears plus reverse (sometimes six plus r, though if i've not driven a six gearer for a while, i may forget about the sixth gear... Or may feel like it's not needed most of the time...), and i know where each gear is, i can feel from the movements of the gearstick where it is. So i can just quickly take my right hand off the wheel (I live in Finland, so we drive on the right and sit on the left) to quickly change gears...

@@bobothn umm, I literally could buy one in an hour in my tiny town. Manuals are fairly common

@@JonVonBasslake I can tell what gear my car is in by placing my hand on the stick for a split second, never taking my eyes away from the road and mirrors. Even that is unnecessary, because unless I am stopped, actively accelerating, or in stop and go traffic, I am either in 4th or 5th. 4th for anything between 40 and 60 km/h, 5th for 70+, and I can tell by ear if it is in the correct gear for its speed. I'm not some sort of expert or anything either, I'm a pretty young driver and it just came naturally.

That's the "except accessibility" they were talking about, I think

Also if you are skiing, working in a workshop with loud vibrating machinery, hiking where it is windy etc. I think one would like to have the greatest chance possible of not missing a call.

And he's correct about both of those things.

None Of Your Business, here's why you and Tom are wrong about the cars. Manual cars typically get better gas mileage. As well as Matt's anecdote about sloppy automatic transmissions. Not only that they're easier to work on from home, automatic parts are too wrapped up in themselves. Tom argues it takes up needed brain power that could be utilized elsewhere, but how many silly cunts would just text with that free hand? Matt's as right about this as he was about the TP.

Some automatics now can be just as efficient as the manuals (or even slightly better) - e.g. the ZF8 transmission in the BMW 3 series. Having more gears and locking the torque converter more of the time rather makes a big difference. But there are still a lot of crap automatics around, I admit.

M0053yfate modern automatics are incredibly advanced and efficient. Their advanced shifting logic and high number of gears allows them to keep the engine at the ideal RPM for the task at hand.

+M0053yfate Tom wasn't arguing all cars should be automatic, just arguing that it should be the default, and manual cars should be the one that's harder to find.

He made an International Standard cup of tea, but I don't think he drank it. I think on Tom Scott Plus, he tried a variety of coffees. However, that happened later than this video.

Literally coming back to this video, years upon years later, just because this quote springs to mind so often

crunchy water?

Ghorda9 did you not watch the video?

Lettuce. Did you not watch the video?

All of them. That wiil get you all the 'no's from Tom.

Siara Hughes cute profile picture

I saw in a documentary once that found that people with automatic transmission uses their phone way more than people with manual transmission

Since when is driving supposed to be fun and entertaining?

@@catman6089 Never said it was fun and entertaining. Said it helps retain focus.

I drive an automatic for half a year now. And I miss shifting so much, that I specifically ask rental companys for a manual car on business trips/holiday/whatever. And it is a double clutch fast auto, but I still get annoyed sometimes. especially when parking, because you never know for sure when and how fast it bites the clutch. (And you have to make such a maneuver at every start and end of every drive) Manuals give me much more control, while autos are just boring.

You need to look into Audio books.

Salt is a seasoning not a condiment.

Controversial opinion: the only wrongful condiment for chips is mayo

That's the language of superior beings

he has a linguistics degree, he knows what he's doing

@@zombieslayer1468 Part of me wants to figure out the IPA notation for what Tom said. The rest of me, fortunately, has better things to do.

This has got to be one of the shittiest patents ever. Pun intended.

Over

The creator of GIF also says the official pronunciation is 'jif', even though he's clearly wrong :P

but does GIF have a patent describing the pronunciation? not that I'd change my pronunciation

don't care as long as there is some in the holder they could just sit it on the bar loose finding that theres just a brown roll left is the worst thing after making a deposit

Its about the sauce

@@aaron5290 you got the sauce mate

The point is that lettuce is not even healthy, it literally provides no nutrition.

Yea, but no nutrition is far better than the nutrition junkfood provides.

Nono, no - Iceberg lettuce is basically just nothing in terms of healthiness. The flavorings you add are generally unhealthy, thus netting an only slightly more healthy variant of chips/crisps. (Which is still fine, I like crunchy water, but I also like crunchy potatoes ☺)

Agreed. Spinach in a salad is awful. It has a weird texture and makes your teeth feel furry

Pretty sure leaf lettuce or napa cabbage are better than iceberg for wraps, though.

Oh I know that state, I return to it periodically.

Same here

Omfg same😂😂😂

Or (like me) you enjoy them cold...

Or camping and in a rush

Does lazy count.

@@catherineallen6024 You're at a pretty low point in your life aren't you? Same. Edit: i love sadness beans

Also going up hills with heavy loads or going on tricky roads manual is better. Autos may be very efficient but today they still manage the surface poorly.

I live on Canadian prairies and manual gearboxes are far superior in poor winter driving conditions.

Kasane1337 what about if the roll holder isn't one that hangs but instead of a solid bar set away from the wall This being in a place that makes it too close to the user when away from the wall, however when place towards the wall you have more room It's a rare situation but is a reason to be the other way

I was actually thinking of just that, and in my opinion, it's still the same thing - especially since I've never had the situation of the roll being too close to me. As long as it's in less than a stretched arm's reach it's pretty fine with me.

I have 5 cats, had 6 until recently, and one more that died before that. I've had this problem exactly once, and I set my TP the right way out. No excuse ;-)

Kasane1337 agreeed

+epoh333 Thanks man, appreciate it.

Same. Toss

Why?

Sun Jara why not. Personally I have those settings because I struggle with the concept of availability. When someone messages me, I feel a really weird kind of guilt for not reading it and replying immediately. But at the same time, why should I be available at all times? Kudos to folk who can see a message come in and just ignore it but I’m not one of those people

@@eilzmo thats true but what about calls? people wont call you unless it is very urgent or if its not you can ask them to call later...one has to be available for calls atleast? dont they?

Same!!

Have done it. Can confirm, it's AWESOME.

Because your native language is Inuktitut?

@@Milamberinx Yeah, either that or people just tend to not think about things that they are used to, we will never know.

I mean I’d actually hazard a guess at saying it’s cause English IS your mother tongue, and it’s not the kind of thing you learn so linearly. It’s a thing you accept. Probably the same reason no native speaker really stops to ask why “inflammable” doesn’t mean “not flammable”. They’re just “words” and unless you specifically study, or have keen interest in, language why would you think about it?

@@eilzmo wait, what does inflammable mean then? (Native speaker here)

@@silverrraven5349 Inflammable means the same thing as flammable: it catches fire easily. Probably because of "to inflame"; the "in" in front of it is not meant to negate the word.

Hmm, interesting do you have a vision impairment

That is both comical and horrifying

Oooh I'm going to do that now

A friend of mine has a clip from Monty Python and the Holy Grail: the twang of an arrow being fired and Concorde saying, "Message for you, sir".

Is that that old Blu notification that goes "woohoo hahaha, text message!"

Thm: All cell phones must be on silent all the time. Pf: The statement is false, but we'll pretend it's true for now. Corollary: All pants must have pockets. Pf: If there exists a pair of pants without pockets, then its wearer will put their cell phone in a purse. Therefore they will turn on the phone's audio alerts. But all cell phones must be on silent all the time, by the previous theorem. So there cannot be such a pair of pants without pockets. QED

@@ArsenicDrone wrong. The "theorem" relies on the fact that cellphones must remain on silent. This can only be true if we prescribe all pants to have pockets. You can see this easily by examining the contrapositive: 'not all pants have pockets therefore not all cellphones must remain on silent' this "shows" that silent phones are a logical consequence of pants having pockets but the converse need not hold.

@@salvadorvillarreal1643 Yikes. Starting off a reply to a silly comment with "wrong" is pretty abrasive. But since I don't quite follow your contrapositive argument (you wrote the inverse of the lemma case, the contrapositive of the corollary case, and it reads fine to me), I'll just point out that the pocketed-pants proposition is a lemma if it's used to prove the silent-phones proposition. I doubt Matt and Tom would use that in their proof, and it seems they only discover the truth of pocketed-pants based on knowing silent-phones. Their silent-phones proof appears to rely on pure rage at being bothered, or something.

rocket is great on a burger

Spinach on a burger is really dope though.

Spinach on a burger is still spinach, and therefore gross.

A whole lettuce leaf is superior to spinach or rocket in keeping the burger juices from soaking the bun....

I actually like spinach on my burgers better than lettuce

I guess your american.

Benjamin Geiger I agree on all fronts

Vinegar, Ketchup and salt mixed together is my favourite condiment.

@@kaelan_123sounds like it'd be the bomb

Neither I hate fries/chips

@@clayel1 hot take

You're all wrong, gravy!!

Rob Mckennie I like the generic term for all of those being "agent of chaos". And yeah I agree, if it becomes a problem, hang it back, if it's not, hang it forward.

End-forward, the end of the roll can also disappear, on the top of the roll.

There's a thing some bog roll dispensers have, a hinged top cover rested on the roll, which prevents spinning after the pulling force has ceased.

It's funny; I always say "either" as "eye-ther", and nearly always say "neither" as "nigh-ther" as well, but in the phrase "me neither", I do pronounce "neither" as "knee-ther".

I agree entirely. What helps me even more is having a contest with myself to see how fast I can get from one place to another. I once made a last minute grocery run just as all the stores were closing, and got home to find that my average speed for the endeavour was 63 km/h _including the time I spent in the store._ I am extremely good at driving when I drive this way, as 100% of my consciousness is applied to the task at all times, however I feel there may be diminishing returns at some point.

also have adhd- i feel like that’s kinda similar to how i prefer to watch tv with captions- it gives me something to grip onto because otherwise my mind will just start wandering.

As someone with ADD I'm too scared to drive, so... you helped me

@@meetaverma8372 so do I there's no reason to be scared of driving lmao although I also drive manual

iamtheiconoclast3 did you drive like you were in a fast and furious movie?

Actually would like to know where you got your gearbox fixed for just €260. I've been driving around without synchromesh on my 2nd gear for about 5 years now because it'd cost something like £500 to fix.

@@Milamberinx That's where the skill of rev matching comes in! Float the gear, problem solved.

"There are some things in life that money can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard."

What about single speed gearboxes (like in electric cars)?

@@EssJay1095 believe me I have that skill now! I does mean I can't engine brake from 3rd to 2nd though and that's quite annoying.

Ehhh, there's electric chokes for carburetors also.

But the fuel injection computer will actually be doing the same as the choke, it'll enrichen the mixture when you start and drive when the engine is still cold. So in effect it is an automatic choke.

The automatic choke on my old Ford Orion was operated with a bi-metallic strip in the coolant, so would progressively turn the choke off as the engine got up to temperature. It was also triggered/bypassed by manifold pressure so would change with throttle setting. No electronics needed.

I have a handbag, I keep my mobile on silent, still wish I had pockets on everything.

I work in a place where it is noisy and a lot of vibrations. I need to be able to hear my phone. Also, not everyone carries their phone on them.

(NOT CLICKBAIT)

GONE WRONG

GONE CONTROVERSIAL

Would like it but it’s on 69 likes

To make that possible you would need transmissions with 12 gears for the over 1 billion cars in the world.

Considering we have 10 speed automatics a 12 gear manual should not be too difficult. Come to think of it, I have driven trucks with way more than 12 gear manual gearboxes.

24 speed non synchro Eaton Fuller Road Rangers for all!

What about Semi-automatic...?

I get bored while driving and in an automatic I start to get sleepy. With a manual I have to be more involved with the car and have to stay alert.

They are far more expensive and not just to buy.

then you'll have to content with: too long charge times too low range fire hazards expensive components lack of feedback to the driver until we reach the point where electric cars have acceptable ranges (at least 500km on a ful lcharge), short charge times (less than ten minutes to full) and a way for the driver to controll the transmission ratio, in case he needs more acceleration at the cost of more energy, all to an affordable price, i'll continue driving manual diesel. i heared that, in japan, they have already found a solution to those absolutely terrible charge times by having built structures similar to gas stations where a robot simply takes out your battery and replaces it with a full one so you can leave right away, but such a systhem would have to be widely implemented and then we still have the problems of the whole deal being too expensive and unsafe.

*accentidently 😛

Sanjuaro yes as say there is no hanging part to grab onto when you roll you you touch the Top and it is pulled round

*Tesla Roadster crying in the corner*

@@igorordecha it's only crying in the corner because it didn't have the range to get to the middle of the room.

Evs are still more efficent with a gearbox just teslas dont use them because they are not that important. Tho there are electric cars with gearboxes

@@zach7482 I laughed so loud at that that it might be a sin xDDD

@@amberionik if they can provide a good amount of torque at all speeds they don't need gearboxes, right?

Robeight Yes. If the end is on the front side (which it usually is when you tear some paper off) you’ll find it faster. You look at the roll - and bam! There’s the end!

I can't train my cat, mate.

If you have kids, yes. If not, no

The original patent for toilet roll had the hanging down bit furthest away from the wall (according to NSTAAF; I've not looked at it myself).

@@XamiNaxamis Close the door. Boom cat can't get in

That is due to the short gear ratio and not the form of transmission

@@RhodokTribesman If you're in 3rd with a 5-speed, it's not the short gear ratio that's at fault, it's that a longer ratio isn't selected despite being available. A 5-speed automatic should be in 5th while cruising at 100+ km/h unless the ratio's are absurdly long and 5th only becomes efficient at higher but still legal speeds.

@@Quintinohthree Yes, exactly. The gear he chose was short for the task he was performing, causing excess RPM and fuel consumption.

@@RhodokTribesman Given his transmission is automatic, he didn't choose tge gear regardless.

Matt disagrees with that on the grounds that chips should be crunchy. I am 100% in favour of this. -- Tom

Does cheese count as a condiment?

so you're just poutine that out there?

Go all the way an make it poutine with curd cheese (or other cheese sometimes). It's really actually great. Canada knows. (I'm not from Canda though)

MidtownSkyport are you by any chance from the north?

Go electric? There are higher tork cheaper operation smoother maintenance versions of most farm vehicles and charging frequently is surprisingly manageable for things used less than 20h more than 20 days a year... Until that becomes affordable partitioning Brussels isn't your cup of tee, is it?

@@fionafiona1146 you do realize even when electric farm equipment becomes widely available people will still be using their equipment from the 60s. Not only are they cheaper to maintain, they're also far more self-serviceable than any completely electric piece of machinery. Even with enormous battery packs things like combine harvesters would drain them rather quickly due to how much power they require to operate.

@@farLander1 I know those build in the 60s are much more convenient but most farm work is very local and requires high tork application, suitable for electric gear (similar to surprisingly many construction vehicles, wires optional )... The in between is high maintenance at the same low efficiency as 60s and prior equipment.

I think the correct term “torque” should be mentioned here

@@fionafiona1146 there's no such thing as an electric tractor or combine harvester and there probably never will be. However, many-geared automatic transmissions are now common on tractors.

Most autos **should** have a low gear option, which puts it in the lowest gear it can, but as I've seen, that's not always true... And when it is true, it usually causes the car to lurch back when downshifting, so I totally agree.

@@specialopsdave I haven't seen (I'm not the most observant person and I've o my owned a few automatics) one like that before and wow....that sounds scary!

It's also helpful to be able to set off in a higher than usual gear in ice or snow, you can't put as much torque through the wheels so you're less likely to get them spinning.

@@Milamberinx another excellent point! thank you!

What does that even mean? What is "compression" in this context?

The discussion is about regular cars not hauling trucks.

@@__nog642 But it would be good to have manual control in every car just in case you need it ( like overtaking, motor breaking, etc.)

Neil Gupta not to mention anytime you want to carry a heavy load on your car like a trailer or a caravan or something? Pretty sure normal people with normal cars do that stuff to 😊