Matterport vs. Matterport! Can you tell the difference?
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In my endless curiosity for testing and understanding the differences between certain technologies and their applications, I did a field test of - TA-DA! Matterport vs. Matterport!
Actually, it's more of a field test of the Z1 performance vs. the Matterport performance while using the Matterport Capture App.
Why would I do this after scanning Matterport Pro and Matterport Pro2 only for over 5 years?
Well, I had a hunch that the Z1 would perform "pretty well" in the field, and the difference in fidelity and model quality maybe not be discernible by clients. It could therefore be a viable, less expensive alternative to growing your fleet with the Pro2, while still offering Matterport scans to clients...but did it stand up to the test? What about fidelity? What about speed? I take a close examination in this new video! Can you tell the difference? Could your client?
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@robsimpson3320 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing what I’ve been wanting to do for some time. Great content!!
@HopscotchInteractive 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! If you have the time, give it a try and see what you think! It was a very helpful exercise for me
@MetaverseOne 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for the review!
@HopscotchInteractive 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Damon, appreciate your support! It's fun to document the research :)
@EMVelez Жыл бұрын
I carry a small sandbag to use outdoors in the window to further secure my monpod. I too lost a camera to the wind once. Luckily, it was insured.
@HopscotchInteractive Жыл бұрын
Yes we love sandbags the weighted monopods are just so convenient!
@alibinary Жыл бұрын
Very nice comparison indeed. I think it all depends upon which type of space you want to scan. Pro 2 produces very detailed images which is great when zooming into objects while in a tour like a construction site or a retail stores etc. However scanning a real estate with big objects like furniture, 360 is a better choice.
@basementVitamins 2 жыл бұрын
Subscribed! Thank you so much for doing this comparison! I want to start my own virtual tour business and this helped me learn more about which camera to start with. Also looking into Xphase Pro X2. Curious about what your clients thought about the comparison between Z1 and Pro2 image quality - did they care about Z1s lower resolution/color issues? Thanks again🙏
@HopscotchInteractive 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Frank! Congrats on starting the business! The clients do see the fidelity difference with the Matterport Pro2, but the ability to scan spaces quickly makes the Planitar system already being requested by my CRE clients over Matterport (and no hosting!)
@HopscotchInteractive 2 жыл бұрын
How is that going? Any luck so far?
@RiyadhKey 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, hanx for the great session, very helpful. I usually use my DSLR/Mirrorless to shoot panoramas for higher rez, and the Z1 if speed is needed, I use 3DVista for the tours. I tried the matterport approach for a clinic, and the corridors were making the job harder, output was ok, but the floorplan wasn't, also starting point was same as final point, but the tour will not connect last shot with first one, I don't know why. The building has a space in the middle that I have to go around it, does that matter? BTW, never tried the Matterport camera. regards
@HopscotchInteractive 2 жыл бұрын
3D Vista is super popular, and one of our photographers likes it - but I've never used it. If you have a Z1, then you can already start using Matterport, even just to give it a test, so it sounds like that is a good option for you
@shanevenhorst4304 2 жыл бұрын
I use a Ricoh Theta V for Matterport. The key is to use more scan points as the more data you have with photogrammetry the better. I find that I can easily get 90%-95% of the quality of my colleagues Pro2 with about 75% of the time invested.
@HopscotchInteractive 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Do you have a good example of a scan you did with just the theta? I’d be curious to see how densely you’re scanning!
@ezearo 2 жыл бұрын
Can you please share the tours so we can compare the difference?
@klayf_ 2 жыл бұрын
Can you make more videos, more about which gear you use, some basics for starting in real estate photography, how to get your first clients, and how to know the market before starting in real estate photography so to know how to price your work. These are great subject we need to know as beginner. Hope you’ll read this comment
@klayf_ 2 жыл бұрын
And I just subscribed ❤️❤️
@HopscotchInteractive 2 жыл бұрын
Hi @Klife! Yes, thank you for the encouragement. I really appreciate your suggestion and I think that's a great idea to do a video about how to get started, like the absolutely very basics you need to start the business. I started my company 6 years ago and have learned a lot along the way. I have a lot to say about starting any business, but of course, also the business of photography for real estate. Let me think about this some more but if you have any more specific questions I can answer don't hesitate to ask them here and I can work that into the content :) If I can do it, you can do it!
@geofhoge3706 Жыл бұрын
Emily, thanks for doing this comparison. I have been using the Pro 2 for 5 years and it finally fell off the top of my tripod because I didn’t secure it when I thought I had. Fortunately, I have a Z1 and an X. This has been very helpful and I look forward to the easy of using the Z1 in future tours. I have it packed in my drone case. Easy to carry and great with mirrors! Just did a house of mirrors when the accident occurred so I had to use my iPad to capture the space. That was tough! This has been a huge help. Do you know if the X will work with Matterport as well? Replaceable battery and memory card are huge pluses. Thanks again. Geof
@HopscotchInteractive Жыл бұрын
Hi Geof, oh man, so sorry that you have a busted Pro2! I have heard that the Matterfix guys are good at replacing them. Also, I had one go down and then Matterport at the time just charged me $500 to send me a new one...so I don't know why or how or if they would do that again, but they simply replaced it because the wifi antenna was just completely not working properly. I don't know about the X yet, I think my media producer Kevin Kunze just got one, so I can surely try it if they start to support it. I know what you mean about the battery! We bought the extension for the Z1 so we could charge it, otherwise with their design, the charger port is covered when it's on most monopods. Pro tip, switch to the Bushman V2 Monopod and get three or four center column weights and stack them on top of each other. That's been my preferred monopod for the last year and I have been through a half a dozen of them! Good luck man!
@nietsalute6348 2 жыл бұрын
I also did a hotel with z1 and there was flares and it was a little tricky
@matthewmorgan7106 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Useful info. Matterport for me cos I need the geometry to as accurate as possible
@HopscotchInteractive 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, me too. Are you using it for BIM, or for floor plans? If you want accurate floor plans without having to make a Matterport tour, Cubicasa is also great.
@matthewmorgan7106 2 жыл бұрын
@@HopscotchInteractive Ok, thanks. I use the Matterport Pro 2 in the marine industry to create both floor plans and interior walk-throughs of boats for interior designers. Its a new tool for me. No BIM as such. To capture the outside, I use a Leica RTC360 and reverse engineer the hull for naval architect's stability analysis.
@EMVelez-qb1zu 2 жыл бұрын
I can immediately tell the difference. I have the Z1 but feel I’m outgrowing it. I want to be able to do larger jobs with better quality.
@photosbyspeed 2 жыл бұрын
I really like getting in and out of the houses in a shorter amount of time. Plus the size of it let's me have all my gear in one bag.
@HopscotchInteractive 2 жыл бұрын
How do you deal with camera battery limitations on larger homes? Is that something you run into, feeling like you're rushing because of battery capacity issues?
@terrytang5367 2 жыл бұрын
@@HopscotchInteractive You can get the Ricoh extension bar that raises up the Z1 creating space between the Z1 and the monopod so you can charge up your Z1 with a power bank while you are scanning.
@HopscotchInteractive 2 жыл бұрын
@@terrytang5367 yes we have those too but rarely use them, I end up charging from a 28000 battery pack in my backpack between jobs…or from my solar charger ;)
@rodneyruffin2128 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Emily for the comparison. Quick question. What’s the ball on top of your Z1?
@HopscotchInteractive 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, that's a tiny bubble level that I affixed with a small piece of velcro. It does not show up in the shots and it helps me eyeball the level since I seem to still be looking for the perfect monopod setup
@rodneyruffin2128 2 жыл бұрын
@@HopscotchInteractive thank you so much Emily. That’s a great idea. I will look on Amazon for one now.
@dennisdischler6541 2 жыл бұрын
Hi there. Which mono pod/stand are you using for the Theta? Thank you!
@HopscotchInteractive 2 жыл бұрын
I was probably using the Best360, but the monopod I prefer is the Bushman Claremont V2 with three additional counterweights from B&H! Make sure to stack the counterweights all up on the center column and not on the legs.
@dennisdischler6541 2 жыл бұрын
@@HopscotchInteractive right on. Thank you so much.
@trosencrantz 2 жыл бұрын
What have you learned about the Z1 vs. Matterport Pro 2 with your clients? I'm sure they prefer the better quality but if they don't have A vs B, I doubt they will care or notice as much. I think there are times when the Z1 creates some Color WB issues from what I've seen on certain occasions. Time is money often.
@HopscotchInteractive 2 жыл бұрын
You’re correct that time is money, but quality and reputation create customer lifetime value so I am always leaning towards building trust and doing it with the Pro2 rather than cutting corners…so we aren’t using the Z1 for the Matterport tours even though we could probably offer the Z1 as an alternative, but it’s still a great option at that price point, if the clients do not have a preference
@nicholasspackman 2 жыл бұрын
I currently use the Z1 for Matterport scans and find that I need to do alot of scans when there is lots of furniture. Does the Matterport camera require extra scans with regards to furniture? I also have an issue with rooms being correctly aligned and find I need to do a number of scans at the entrance to a new room. Again is the Matterport camera better in this regard? How long does it normally take to make a scan of a furnished 3 bedroom home? Cheers, Nick
@HopscotchInteractive 2 жыл бұрын
The Matterport Pro2 camera scans just in one direction towards the objects in the room, so yes, whenever there are lots of items that occlude (hide) what is behind it, you will need to scan more. For example, a showroom with many walls will require many more scans than an open office space where the camera's depth sensors will be able to quickly ascertain the geometry. A furnished three bedroom home typically takes 45 min-1 hr, so it's slower than the Z1 + Matterport, but you're much less likely to have alignment errors if used correctly.
@nicholasspackman 2 жыл бұрын
@@HopscotchInteractive Thank you for the update. I think I'll stay with the Z1 a little while longer as the scans are good enough at the moment and the extra time taken with the matterport camera would be an issue. I just did a scan of a house today and noted that each scan takes 10 seconds between when I start a scan and move the camera to a new spot and start another scan using the Z1 with an Iphone 12 Pro.
@HopscotchInteractive 2 жыл бұрын
@@nicholasspackman yes, that time is easily 3x with the Pro2 even if you're using the latest iPad (about :24-:27 seconds I think?) so keep that in mind, but it's a lot more foolproof and if you are keeping your clients happy with the Z1, then I would keep using it, but you will probably love the battery life and the more polished look of the Pro2 if you ever get one :)
@nicholasspackman 2 жыл бұрын
@@HopscotchInteractive Thanks again. I just got some info that a new matterport camera is due in the next six months, so I think I'll to see what that is like. Cheers.
@HopscotchInteractive 2 жыл бұрын
@@nicholasspackman hmmm, that's some hot gossip if it's true! I will look forward to that as well :)
@daltonrandall4348 2 жыл бұрын
Which monopod do you use?
@patximendizabal5150 7 ай бұрын
Have you tried the newer Theta X? I would love to see what you think.
@HopscotchInteractive 7 ай бұрын
Not yet I need one to review…but would be happy to! Thanks for the note
@terrytang5367 2 жыл бұрын
I used my Z1 with Matterport and I found that the objects in the pictures look distorted. Do you have the same issue when using Z1?
@HopscotchInteractive 2 жыл бұрын
It’s because the geometry is inferred there is no real 3D, it’s 360 that’s using photogrammetry to create the model so yes, that distortion is expected. I have the new Axis and haven’t even unboxed it yet but I will and will see if it’s any different with the iPhone + LiDAR you may have better results with that
@terrytang5367 2 жыл бұрын
@@HopscotchInteractive Sorry what is LiDAR?
@imobiliarebotosani3590 2 жыл бұрын
what did the clients say?
@HopscotchInteractive 2 жыл бұрын
I only did it this one time, I still haven’t wanted to roll it out as a service since we have all photographers with Pro2 already, I prefer the look of the Pro2 personally
@yawnahkay7362 2 жыл бұрын
The Z1 does a good job in smallest spaces from my experience.
@HopscotchInteractive 2 жыл бұрын
What’s the largest space you’ve scanned with a Z1?
@yawnahkay7362 2 жыл бұрын
@@HopscotchInteractive smallest I did with the Z1 and matterport app was inside of an ice cream truck and it came out pretty good
@salimhabib5891 2 жыл бұрын
Erasing monopod legs from a few scans is ok, but if I shoot a large 3 story property with a big garden,,,, is there any auto-erase app especially for monopod or tripod legs ?? what to do if it takes 2 days to complete the scans, how to join then as single space? will appreciate your expert advice.
@HopscotchInteractive 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Salim, there won't be any monopod/tripod legs from a Matterport shoot since the nadir is patched. There's no need to auto-erase. If you look down at any Matterport model you won't have that problem. The Matterport is so popular because you don't have to place the scans manually in post-production, the tour is processed in the cloud, and then it comes back to you with everything where you placed it when you made the tour, with the exception of the 360's that you take outside or on a balcony, for example. The exterior garden would probably not be a part of the "3D tour", it would be a 360° panorama you include in the highlight reel. Matterport doesn't really perform that well outdoors.
@salimhabib5891 2 жыл бұрын
@@HopscotchInteractive Highly appreciate your prompt reply. Sir. One more question. The property I am going to shoot is a hospital and it might require 2 or 3 days to shoot as they need to shift the patient for VR tour photography purposes. will matterport combine all these images into one tour? It is my 1st time so I am a bit confused and matterport didn't reply to my this question. Waiting for your response Sir.
@HopscotchInteractive 2 жыл бұрын
@@salimhabib5891 I am not sure matterport is the best solution for an occupied hospital, anything that moves or changes or doors opening and closing (all doors need to remain open) will make it difficult if not impossible for the camera to know where it is. You really can only successfully shoot a 3D tour if there isn’t anyone actively using the space in my experience. It would be better to just shoot 360’s and make a custom tour using any other software like seekbeak, cloudpano, or 3D Vista.
@HopscotchInteractive 2 жыл бұрын
@@salimhabib5891 also if you’ve never used matterport you should definitely get experience scanning before attempting to shoot an occupied space, that’s my advice. I would imagine you’d be much better off using a Ricoh Theta camera and then saving the panos. One hack is to use the Zillow 3D home tour app and use that to remember the path and position of the panos, and to save the panos to the camera for each photo, it’s a hack but would be better than matterport in your case, you would download the images after the shoot and then edit them before building a custom tour in one of the aforementioned platforms
@salimhabib5891 2 жыл бұрын
@@HopscotchInteractive Thanks a million Ma'am. I am indebted to you. The reason I wanna shoot with matterport is the the client wants a dollhouse for his hospital. otherwise I would have used Zillow which seems to be user friendly system. I hope I succeed as many opportunities will open up once I am successful in my this project. The client has promised to move all patients and staff from the floors where I shoot 360 Photo for VR tour. Once I finish this job I will share my experience with you all here and Ma'am especially with you as you are my teacher. May GOD bless you.
@michaell1603 2 жыл бұрын
Hi there! I need to know how I can sell a 3D scan of a business without having to permanently host it as taking up an active space. What is it that you do? Thank you
@HopscotchInteractive 2 жыл бұрын
We charge for hosting a monthly fee, $10-$20 depending on the model. Or have your client get their own account which is $10/month for them.
@michaell1603 2 жыл бұрын
@@HopscotchInteractive Im worried that would be a tough sell, to anchor a smaller business with $10/month for eternity. I wonder if they would qualify for the free account that allows a single scan? That's why I'm looking at the iGuide platform for perhaps business and construction purposes, and maybe matterport for real estate and insurance purposes. Speaking of which, have you dealt with insurance providers regarding damage assessment scans? I think matterport talked about the insurance industry being another revenue stream for scans, with no hosting fees as they preferred transfer of ownership of the scan itself.
@HopscotchInteractive 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaell1603 free account is for personal use, not for posting and embedding, so that doesn't work. I have had some insurance business work, but unless you know someone in the industry it's very tough to break into and they seem to want to get their own cameras. I've done everything from fire damage and remediation to luxury properties...the best is commercial real estate in my opinion
@nietsalute6348 2 жыл бұрын
I did a 3 storey 4 bedroom 3 baths in 1h45 with Ricoh and i had couple issues- connectivity and not being able to pick up the turns in stairs etc
@HopscotchInteractive 2 жыл бұрын
Hi! Which tour software were you using? Matterport capture app?
@HopscotchInteractive 2 жыл бұрын
Connectivity issues with the Ricoh typically result from traveling too far away. Can you try using the timer next time? So setting the timer then hiding? If it’s enabled in the matterport capture app I would try that. It’s typically enabled in other apps and software that are built for the Ricoh
@nietsalute6348 2 жыл бұрын
@@HopscotchInteractive yes matterport capture and its unstable
@nietsalute6348 2 жыл бұрын
@@HopscotchInteractive i didn’t see this feature in the Matterport app but Ill check thanks And sometimes im right besides it it takes a few tries to connect but only happened with the sc2 not the z1
@HopscotchInteractive 2 жыл бұрын
@@nietsalute6348 yeah I am not sure you’ll be able to have that setting from capture you might need to set it in the Ricoh app first and then it might still be overidden in capture, so stay as close as you can without being in the shots and also I would turn off notifications or even use an iPad without any cellular as your capture app device if you have one. It might be a little better than using your phone (did you capture with a phone?)
@nietsalute6348 2 жыл бұрын
Did you have any connectivity issues?
@HopscotchInteractive Жыл бұрын
We do from time to time so make sure your camera is not accidentally connecting to another device like your phone if you’re using an iPad, only have one wifi device in range so it doesn’t start to jump to other signals
@nietsalute6348 2 жыл бұрын
You can’t take anything less then Z1 - quality with SC2 not good
@jfizzle 2 жыл бұрын
Wow...Just stumbled upon this video and was quickly reminded how Matterport is a waste. 1 hour to scan 1000sqft. Wow...I do hope you charge $300/hr.
@HopscotchInteractive 2 жыл бұрын
Right with you on the time sink of Pro2 for houses that do not ever need a floor plan or that kind of precision. We are in the Bay Area, so pricing is in-line with the local cost of living
@jfizzle 2 жыл бұрын
@@HopscotchInteractive Wait!!! Where in the Bay Area? LoL
@jfizzle 2 жыл бұрын
@@HopscotchInteractive Nevermind! Found you! We run a company just north of you. We cover seven counties...Napa, Marin, Sonoma, Solano, Yolo, Mendocino, and Lake. We are trying not to grow anymore...lol. We are at 400-500 properties a year right now. Just how I like it.
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