Alien 3 - What Happened?

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Matt McMuscles

Matt McMuscles

4 жыл бұрын

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On this episode of What Happened, we drop down to Fury 161 to find out what went down with David Fincher's first, and most disastrous film!
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@raptorshotgun4107
@raptorshotgun4107 4 жыл бұрын
If only we had listened to Fincher, instead of walling him up in the abandoned coke oven.
@kathy618
@kathy618 4 жыл бұрын
2 ATOMS!
@strikeforce1500
@strikeforce1500 4 жыл бұрын
What? Hearing the people expert in making movies? Nah fam, the people who do know how to make movies are the suits, you know the one who studied all their lives to understand numbers and managing bussiness and.. not to make movies
@JakeTheVoice
@JakeTheVoice 4 жыл бұрын
Ripley needs braces
@jackfarr3133
@jackfarr3133 4 жыл бұрын
BOSH. FLIMSHAW.
@torquetheprisoner
@torquetheprisoner 4 жыл бұрын
this movie show how good of a director he realy is cos it shows that he can work from next to no script no money a tight dead line and studio interference.
@maugos
@maugos 4 жыл бұрын
That has got to be one of my favorite stupid things Hollywood execs do. "We want this movie to be made quickly, but instead we're gonna take several years of saying no to scripts only to then scramble to get things done when we realize we took too long."
@battlion507
@battlion507 4 жыл бұрын
It's like they took 20 detours to end up on the wrong destination when it was just a couple miles... Just dumb.
@bruceluiz
@bruceluiz 4 жыл бұрын
Basically "we put money in, things come out". No matter how much THEY delay or how much THEY interfere, its all the "ground team" problem. Considering how much money they input it is more than fair that they get a say on the matter and interfere but not 24/7 and not this erroneous. In essence they played the overly-jealous husband/wife who fcked their marriage because of their jealous attacks and still blamed the other part.
@NucleaRaptor
@NucleaRaptor 4 жыл бұрын
>committing to all sorts of deadlines and schedules before the script is even approved Hollywood is such a clusterfuck. I'm glad it's burning.
@andrewdunn5568
@andrewdunn5568 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like where i work. We had a 3 year plan and rushed everything into the last 6 months
@steviegbcool
@steviegbcool Жыл бұрын
@@battlion507 to be fair they did stick their necks out it was a very risky movie. killing off the characters, getting rid of everything that made Aliens so successfull and puting an artistic rookie in charge. That would never happen now with a 100 million movie. so at least some props for that.
@KoolKeithProductions
@KoolKeithProductions 4 жыл бұрын
James Cameron: "Alien 3 was a smack in the face to the fans..." Also James Cameron: Green lights Terminator Dark Date, which kills off John Connor in the first 5 damn mins of the movie...
@jakerockznoodles
@jakerockznoodles 3 жыл бұрын
Age sure takes a toll on the mind...
@luizfelipevbf5567
@luizfelipevbf5567 3 жыл бұрын
@DoodooMcSparkz A long time ago he admitted he doesn't like any of the Terminator sequels but praised them anyway because the producers were usually his friends or were paying him a fee. He praised both Gensys and Salvation before they came out just to shitalk them after they left theaters
@jackdaft258
@jackdaft258 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, James Cameron is a twat.
@CoffeePotGames
@CoffeePotGames 3 жыл бұрын
I'm that one guy that likes every Terminator movie
@KoolKeithProductions
@KoolKeithProductions 3 жыл бұрын
@@CoffeePotGames How do you live with yourself
@StealthMaster86
@StealthMaster86 4 жыл бұрын
"We set out to make a release date" Unfortunately, that's still a thing.
@MemeMachine-po9zo
@MemeMachine-po9zo 4 жыл бұрын
That's how almost all movies are made At this point.
@bobafett4265
@bobafett4265 4 жыл бұрын
@@Xehanort10 yeah like Alien 3 and Ghost Rider 2, which would defiantly be great What Happened? Material right there, possibly worth a look due to it's disappointment, here's hoping that Ghost Rider 2 What Happened video will happen. 🤞😉
@biffman6
@biffman6 4 жыл бұрын
@@MemeMachine-po9zo most AAA video games too, it seems
@andrewcooke4251
@andrewcooke4251 3 жыл бұрын
Electronic arts.......
@MrRedskins94
@MrRedskins94 4 жыл бұрын
I couldn't control myself seeing them putting a xenomorph suit on a dog
@unclefranklin4575
@unclefranklin4575 4 жыл бұрын
Last of us part 2 xenomorph edition
@lordlizard2195
@lordlizard2195 4 жыл бұрын
You totaly forgot thath part when they ignored H.R.Giger triing to get on project, used his new xenomorph design he send them and kinda forgot to credit him
@BearOldcastle
@BearOldcastle 4 жыл бұрын
That's a raw deal.
@lazyrmc
@lazyrmc 4 жыл бұрын
That's a big oof, right there
@Karloss00
@Karloss00 4 жыл бұрын
@@pepijn23 He also said the Aliens in Resurrection look like "walking turds".
@thunderphoenix440
@thunderphoenix440 4 жыл бұрын
And then he faxed them a letter threatening to like, curse them, and signed it with a bloody pentagram.
@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09
@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09 4 жыл бұрын
No they didn't, *they* were the ones who contacted *him*, but they thought his designs were too weird, so they designed it themselfs.
@Nintendrone42
@Nintendrone42 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to know what the Fox executives' reasons were for scrapping all of those scripts. It reminds me of the Super Mario Bros. movie script that seemed way better than what we got. Also, I can't help but grin at seeing the xenomorph being played by a small dog in a suit. That dog should've gotten top billing, dammit.
@JamesTheDominator
@JamesTheDominator 4 жыл бұрын
Budget. It was already way over budget
@flipsidelimited6560
@flipsidelimited6560 4 жыл бұрын
In SMB case, the hire on directors changed everything that was originally written and agreed with the actors.
@dontgetmarried
@dontgetmarried 2 ай бұрын
Alien: the goodest boy in space
@zekebrown4463
@zekebrown4463 4 жыл бұрын
I always hated how they killed off all the other characters from Aliens. Kinda cheapens the impact from Aliens when all of the characters die immediately afterwards.
@troyjardine5850
@troyjardine5850 4 жыл бұрын
While the Alien films have always had a foreboding sense of dread and pessimism, killing off Newt and Hicks was just too mean spirited for the films. Though it's still not the worst that came from the series, that (dis)honor belongs to Randy Pitchford and his sack of lies and shit "Aliens: Colonial Marines".
@crustypaladin
@crustypaladin 4 жыл бұрын
Aliens nightmare asylum and earth war
@generic_sauce
@generic_sauce 4 жыл бұрын
@@grayamirYT there are actually pretty good books based on that, but yeah it was a copyright issue on the names. Both Hicks and Newt had to have their names changed in these.
@repletereplete8002
@repletereplete8002 4 жыл бұрын
@@grayamirYT Yeah I bought them when they first came out as individual issues and I swear they're called Newt and Hicks in those. They must have been changed for later re-issues?
@andrewpeterson7134
@andrewpeterson7134 4 жыл бұрын
Aliens colonial marines was the biggest slap in the face to me as a aliens fan and the fact I waited 10 years for a alien stand alone game then the fact they didn’t deliver what they promised us at the revieal it has to be the biggest slap in. The face to fans ever made in this franchises history
@GenerationWest
@GenerationWest 4 жыл бұрын
The fact that you can make What Happened's on every sequel after Aliens brings a tear to my eye... I also find it weird that each movie afterwards does the Resident Evil movie thing and just kill off characters in-between films or during the beginning. That's what you get for caring I guess.
@mauricedavis8261
@mauricedavis8261 2 жыл бұрын
Good point!!!🙏👍😷
@marcos.a8814
@marcos.a8814 2 жыл бұрын
Well imagine being Matt who's a predator fan, ya know... the series that only has 1 good movie out of like 6
@mountaindewdruggie
@mountaindewdruggie 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcos.a8814 2 good movies*, Predator 2 is underrated
Жыл бұрын
@@mountaindewdruggie debatable
@WillPaskee
@WillPaskee Жыл бұрын
@ yeah, i'd say Predators is about tied with 3rd place
@MattMatt77
@MattMatt77 4 жыл бұрын
That is literally the Worst/Best thing I ever saw so they dressed a actual dog up as a alien.
@Blacknight8850
@Blacknight8850 4 жыл бұрын
There's clips out there of the dog running around in costume, it's hilarious!
@thunderphoenix440
@thunderphoenix440 4 жыл бұрын
It's kind of like when that guy dressed his corgi up as a giant spider and let it loose in the park.
@EuroMIX2
@EuroMIX2 4 жыл бұрын
Okay, I need to see this Spider Corgi. Do you have a link to it?
@naddy995
@naddy995 4 жыл бұрын
Ditto! I would love some spider corgi in my life, danke.
@thunderphoenix440
@thunderphoenix440 4 жыл бұрын
@@EuroMIX2 I can't find the original video of it, and also it was a daschund. i.ytimg.com/vi/YoB8t0B4jx4/hqdefault.jpg
@matrixandraia
@matrixandraia 4 жыл бұрын
Fortunately for David Fincher, he's since proven that he was waaaaaaaaay too good for what Fox did to him while he was making Alien 3.
@thatonenerd9252
@thatonenerd9252 3 жыл бұрын
What has David Fincher done?
@matrixandraia
@matrixandraia 3 жыл бұрын
@@thatonenerd9252 Fight Club, Panic Room, Gone Girl, Benjamin Button, Zodiac. All of his movies are outstanding.
@reservoirfrogs2177
@reservoirfrogs2177 Жыл бұрын
@@matrixandraia You forgot Se7en
@rougeblackborn
@rougeblackborn 4 жыл бұрын
How was the phrase 'wooden satellite' used more than once without the speaker being laughed out of the room?
@rageagainstthehygiene2357
@rageagainstthehygiene2357 4 жыл бұрын
As amazingly stupid as it sounds, people who have actually read it generally regard it really highly. Aliens was nothing like Alien, it wouldnt have been that big of a deal to make Alien 3 another huge departure.
@viscountrainbows6452
@viscountrainbows6452 4 жыл бұрын
I personally like the concept, but I'm a weirdo😹 It could be the basis for a space mystery and some wicked wacky wizardry to invent to make this celestial holiday ornament full of swordless Jedi more compelling than as stupid as it may look on paper.
@suspicioustumbleweed4760
@suspicioustumbleweed4760 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheLinkandmarioshow I was thinking the same thing. Or maybe petrified wood?
@leonardobianucci6218
@leonardobianucci6218 4 жыл бұрын
I mean. I see potential to the idea if re prhase it like some kind of plant/tree that consume a little planet or asteroid and the hollow roots take the shape of it and float around a orbit.
@Mario_N64
@Mario_N64 3 жыл бұрын
It was more of a steampunk thing, it was really well thought out. Very expensive to film though.
@BSG1892
@BSG1892 4 жыл бұрын
So glad this didn’t ruin David Fincher’s career before it started. Too bad it killed the Alien franchise which still hasn’t recovered.
@plasmaoctopus1728
@plasmaoctopus1728 4 жыл бұрын
ehh, it had a chance to recuperate but failed worse.
@robjabbaz
@robjabbaz 4 жыл бұрын
resurrection killed the franchise.
@xDinomanx
@xDinomanx 4 жыл бұрын
@@robjabbaz It's a shame cause Neil Blomkamp (director of several amazing movies including District 9) was going to be the director for Alien 5 which got scrapped. There goes any chance of redemption of the franchise there (and also because I think Neil would be the perfect director for it).
@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009
@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009 4 жыл бұрын
If you take everything about David off in Alien convenant, and just focus on that crew and the shit that happens to them in the surface and them in the ship it would be a awesome stand alone Alien movie But no, Ridley Scott wanted so much to focus on androids and artificial life in the Alien franchise that he forgot Balde runner existed and he could easily make another one
@JogJogJog15
@JogJogJog15 4 жыл бұрын
@@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009 Alien died so Blade Runner 2049 could live
@mattieguilliams129
@mattieguilliams129 2 жыл бұрын
The brutality that they shot the scene of the autopsy of Newt still haunts me today. And breaks my mind in not knowing "why did they do that!?"
@SebastianJung422
@SebastianJung422 7 ай бұрын
Alien 3 isn't just embarrassing and ridiculous, it's an absolute disaster. The autopsy scene with Newt makes me so angry and sad every time. Even David Fincher hates and despises this shitty movie.
@5persondude
@5persondude 3 жыл бұрын
“Fox believed that the Cold War would be over by the time the movie was out” Fox: *_hampers movie’s progress so it releases after the Cold War ends_* “See? We were right al along!”
@7783DEATH
@7783DEATH 4 жыл бұрын
Its all just sad really. And I like alien3 assembly cut for what its worth. There are so many nuggets of brilliance in the film.
@damienhelmold6978
@damienhelmold6978 4 жыл бұрын
It made me wanna jack off and cry at the same time
@bigkmoviesandgames
@bigkmoviesandgames 4 жыл бұрын
@@damienhelmold6978 I can't recall any sexually arousing scenes.
@generic_sauce
@generic_sauce 4 жыл бұрын
I feel the worst for the actors, a lot of them are clearly giving it their all.
@bigkmoviesandgames
@bigkmoviesandgames 4 жыл бұрын
@@ressljs I also love alien 3 it's just so unique and has that sense of dread that aliens often lacked.
@bigkmoviesandgames
@bigkmoviesandgames 4 жыл бұрын
@@ressljs I know what you mean. 3 really is a hidden gem.
@Kevillion
@Kevillion 4 жыл бұрын
James Cameron's thoughts on Alien 3: "A huge slap in the face to the fans" I wonder if he feels the same way about Terminator Dark Fate?
@unclefranklin4575
@unclefranklin4575 4 жыл бұрын
after dark fate came out Cameron tried to save himself and say he actually didn't see anything but bits and pieces when he approved it and didn't know the final product was that bad.
@ALIRStudio87
@ALIRStudio87 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Dark fate was garbage.
@unclefranklin4575
@unclefranklin4575 4 жыл бұрын
@@onometre there's a big disconnect between critics and audiences. And that critical score hasn't kept Cameron from walking back his involvement.
@CrimsonGear80
@CrimsonGear80 4 жыл бұрын
Uncle Franklin you are confusing Dark Fate with Genysis. Cameron was a producer on Dark Fate so he definitely saw that entire movie...
@unclefranklin4575
@unclefranklin4575 4 жыл бұрын
@@CrimsonGear80 I don't believe him, In fact I think he's just making excuses after the fact. Although the director did say he was barely involved on set or in the editing room so maybe there's some truth there.
@Rozza2k
@Rozza2k 3 жыл бұрын
I felt bishop was going to be revealed as a villain in the third, I always thought he implanted an alien into Hicks then put him to sleep and opened the doors for the aliens earlier. There was a line he says "they wanted a live specimen, they were quite clear about that" that always stuck with me
@rutabaga_rutabaga
@rutabaga_rutabaga 4 жыл бұрын
If you do another movie flop (besides Dragon Ball Evolution and Avatar the Last Airbender), can you cover the 2015 Fantastic Four film?
@nossunossu5569
@nossunossu5569 4 жыл бұрын
Oh god, was it really from 2015? Time passes too fast
@kaiokenkaiowhat9343
@kaiokenkaiowhat9343 4 жыл бұрын
Specially after Josh Trank recently gave his thoughts on the whole ordeal to Polygon.
@martinrking
@martinrking 4 жыл бұрын
Oh my god, somehow I ended up looking down that rabbit hole... what a total mess. I can’t believe Michael B Jordan did that movie.
@viraleffectz
@viraleffectz 4 жыл бұрын
I hope he does Waterworld
@rustymcbadbat
@rustymcbadbat 4 жыл бұрын
Shit i could see an entire Wha Happun episode on Josh Trank’s dumpster fire of a career
@huxleyable
@huxleyable 4 жыл бұрын
Treating David Fincher like this on his first movie makes me remember that one time a Studio suit told Steven Spielberg that he would ammount to nothing in Hollywood
@justinaysien1204
@justinaysien1204 3 жыл бұрын
Well history proved him wrong in the end didn’t it
@xDinomanx
@xDinomanx 4 жыл бұрын
I honestly wish they had gone with the first script idea of Ripley, Newt and Hicks taking on Weyland Yutani to destroy them. There could've been so much potential there to go all out with the xenos given Weyland's interest in the aliens and also to give Hicks the leading role as was the original director's intent. Poor Hicks and Newt got done dirty big time. The Alien 3 we got in the end was okay I guess.
@rootfelixfake6716
@rootfelixfake6716 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, having a happy ending starring three characters people actually like, you'd think it would make for a nice movie, shocker
@xDinomanx
@xDinomanx 4 жыл бұрын
@@rootfelixfake6716 You could still have Ripley die at the end. e.g. Dies to CEO of Weyland or to a Xeno.
@rootfelixfake6716
@rootfelixfake6716 4 жыл бұрын
@@xDinomanx It's not really her dying but the rest of the story being super depressing, and resurrection makes this even worse by stating that her sacrifice was for nothing.
@xDinomanx
@xDinomanx 4 жыл бұрын
@@rootfelixfake6716 Oh yeah, they pretty much botched it. Although i did enjoy Resurrection as a kid, it's definately one of the worst Alien movies as a whole (does have some cool action sequences though).
@trevordavis6830
@trevordavis6830 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I'm not against them killing any of the characters off, but the fact that they did off screen with zero build up or weight behind really annoys me. They were such important characters in the last film and all they got was like 5 seconds of establishing that they're dead and 2 seconds of mourning.
@fredrickbanks1966
@fredrickbanks1966 4 жыл бұрын
Fox: Ya can’t spell Alien without “Lie”
@DarkMProductions
@DarkMProductions 4 жыл бұрын
I'm one of those that has come around to this film. I absolutely hated it the first time I saw it, but when I saw the assembly cut I started to change my mind on it. While not the film Fincher wanted to make, his talent is very clear in it, and you even see early signs of his style that he would develop and refine over the years. I like the bleak and oppressive tone, the visuals are often gorgeous, the acting is top notch, the music while a bit over the top at times is fantastic, and I like that all three of the first Alien films didn't try to replicate each other, they all approached the concept in a unique way. While the most flawed of the first three Alien films, I think it's on par with the first two. However, had Fincher been able to make the film he wanted, I think it could have easily been the best.
@barrygeistwhite3474
@barrygeistwhite3474 4 жыл бұрын
Same here. It's absolutely a flawed film, but it has moments of brilliance. Genie-from-a-bottle? One of my wishes would be to see the movie that Alien3 could have been.
@jasonblalock4429
@jasonblalock4429 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, in a lot of ways Alien3 is a testament to just how talented Fincher already was. The film *should* have been an absolutely unwatchable dumpster fire, but Fincher's skill with the camera and working with actors was still enough to elevate it to "watchable."
@battlion507
@battlion507 4 жыл бұрын
So how was alien Ressurection?
@DarkMProductions
@DarkMProductions 4 жыл бұрын
@@battlion507 it was something all right. It has its moments, and Ron Perlman is always a delight, but it comes across more as a spoof of the first three films, rather than a continuation. It's still entertaining, but like the first AVP film, I put it in it's own seperate camp.
@RoastedPheasant
@RoastedPheasant 4 жыл бұрын
"If you're like me- and I know I am." Aww Matt. Why do you do these things that hurt us so?
@KingGargantuas
@KingGargantuas 4 жыл бұрын
am I the only one who so wants to see him cover the Spawn movie from 1997?
@Tareltonlives
@Tareltonlives 4 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@KremBotop
@KremBotop 4 жыл бұрын
John Luigizamo’s cheerleader dance as the Violator was the stuff of nightmares
@MeluhKnight
@MeluhKnight 4 жыл бұрын
I'm sure a lot of people do
@GenericSoda
@GenericSoda 4 жыл бұрын
oh man seeing that dog crammed into the alien costume gives me bad feels good to see it realized what was going on and refused to act
@the_jennittles
@the_jennittles 4 жыл бұрын
Song in that trailer is Skeletons in the Attic by Dance With The Dead for those wondering!
@panelsandbars1529
@panelsandbars1529 4 жыл бұрын
I always wonder if he’d return to this genre nowadays. With his experience and and vision, it could be mind-blowing.
@cubanref9670
@cubanref9670 4 жыл бұрын
David Fincher is so badass that even Jim Cameron is a fan!
@onethousandlostsouls
@onethousandlostsouls 4 жыл бұрын
Mike Manhattan He's directed Se7en, Fight Club, Panic Room, Girl with the dragon tattoo, Gone Girl. He's an amazing director with his own style and atmosphere so it's a surprise he got another chance after Aliens 3
@RoguePlanetSounds
@RoguePlanetSounds 4 жыл бұрын
@@onethousandlostsouls Don't forget the wonderful Mindhunter too. But yeah you got most of em lol.
@onethousandlostsouls
@onethousandlostsouls 4 жыл бұрын
Rogue Planet Forgot about that one! What's funny is I didn't know he directed it till I 5 minutes into the first episode and cuz how the color filter looked and the music. I'm like " did David Fincher direct this?" Lol
@RoguePlanetSounds
@RoguePlanetSounds 4 жыл бұрын
@@onethousandlostsouls So dark and saturated if those are the right words but I love it. I can't wait for season 3, it's really neat seeing him do another realistic drama.
@j.peters1222
@j.peters1222 4 жыл бұрын
This happens in more movies than most people realize. Unnecessary interference from big suits in the filming process can be absolutely disastrous.
@barcey
@barcey 4 жыл бұрын
Now this might be torture but how about a What happened? Episode on Highlander 2?
@ROBOTPETER101
@ROBOTPETER101 4 жыл бұрын
How can he do a video on a movie that doesn't exist.
@bigkmoviesandgames
@bigkmoviesandgames 4 жыл бұрын
@@ROBOTPETER101 ?
@barcey
@barcey 4 жыл бұрын
@@bigkmoviesandgames The joke is that Highlander 2 is so bad that every Highlander fan pretends it never happened.
@Lightspeeds
@Lightspeeds 4 жыл бұрын
@@bigkmoviesandgames the later highlander films are so bad that the fandom collectively ignore them.
@blaidencortel
@blaidencortel 4 жыл бұрын
THERE IS NO HIGHLANDER 2!!!
@worsel555
@worsel555 4 жыл бұрын
I tell people that Alien 3 is one of my favorite movies and I get weird looks, but then I explain to them about the Assembly Cut and how Fincher got screwed over by the studio and killed what could have been a good movie.
@virgogaming6488
@virgogaming6488 3 жыл бұрын
Alien 3 Assembly Cut is one of my favorite films too.
@kronemerj
@kronemerj 3 жыл бұрын
I'm very glad that Fincher was able to bounce back. I felt so bad for him while being told about this whole mess. I knew that the theatrical cut was a mess but I had no idea the extent of it.
@eduardoherrera2368
@eduardoherrera2368 2 жыл бұрын
I would give you weird looks if you said Alien *Resurrection* was your favorite movie.
@El_Billy
@El_Billy Жыл бұрын
Yep, Assembly Cut is a great movie.
@SebastianJung422
@SebastianJung422 7 ай бұрын
This whole shitty movie is totally weird. Alien 3 is a disaster.
@jasonblalock4429
@jasonblalock4429 4 жыл бұрын
It's worth noting that Fincher was already quite experienced when he made Alien3. He was actually a big deal at the time, even without directing a single feature film. The studio he co-founded, Propaganda Films, was *THE* production company for slick ads and other promo videos. He'd won tons of awards and helped define the "look" of 80s pop filmmaking. And an absolutely absurd amount of future talent got their start there over the years doing videos and ads - including Michael Bay, Gore Verbinski, Spike Jonze, and Zach Snyder.
@BlazePiffington
@BlazePiffington 4 жыл бұрын
you know for a second there… I thought this was the aliens 3 Sega Genesis game.
@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09
@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09 4 жыл бұрын
Killing off Hicks and Newt was a bad decision, but Alien 3 is not a bad movie on its own. It's a very dark and atmospherical movie, and honestly very unique for a sequel to an action blockbuster. Morse, Dillon and Clemens were awesome new characters. The movie looks and sounds fantastic, Elliot Goldenthal's score is absolutely perfect. The alien becoming different depending on what animal the host was, is a really cool addition. Ripley's death scene is really well done, and even though Aliens was already pretty much a perfect ending, this is still a great send off for the Ripley character. Far better than what they did with her in Resurrection. I'm really glad this movie exists.
@ForrestFox626
@ForrestFox626 Жыл бұрын
Everything you just said is a lie
@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09
@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09 Жыл бұрын
@@ForrestFox626 Yeah, but it's opposite day, so it's all true.
@nestormelendez9005
@nestormelendez9005 11 ай бұрын
​@@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09yyyeeeeah no
@superdrinkingpepsi
@superdrinkingpepsi 4 ай бұрын
@@ForrestFox626 Say what you want about the quality of the movie, but the score is absolutely fantastic
@ForrestFox626
@ForrestFox626 4 ай бұрын
@@superdrinkingpepsi True
@Murais
@Murais 4 жыл бұрын
The Assembly Cut is so close to being a decent film, it's tragic. Has legs up until the third act before it turns into a completely incoherent mess.
@Amitlu
@Amitlu 4 жыл бұрын
They could only fix so much in the end.
@Amitlu
@Amitlu 4 жыл бұрын
I think he largely means the tunnel chase scenes where its hard to keep track of who dies and who lives.
@Murais
@Murais 4 жыл бұрын
@@Amitlu Yes. That sequence in particular. But also themes. In the assembly cut, they actually do a pretty good job of conveying themes of the value of a human life and the fucked up way that it is largely disregarded for prisoners. Then, in the third act, it is completely thrown out the window and never referenced again and the focus just becomes Ripley's tragedy. It's messy and conversely asks you not to think to much about the film's conclusion after spending more than half the film asking you to think about injustice. It's thematic whiplash.
@kronemerj
@kronemerj 3 жыл бұрын
If the assembly cut is Close to decent, imagine how good it could have been without the interference . Tragic.
@joshuagiezen3122
@joshuagiezen3122 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Matt, it seems every time I look at my youtube page there's another upload from you. Thank you for keeping us entertained during quarantine
@providencebreaker1558
@providencebreaker1558 4 жыл бұрын
It's sad that this kind of thing is still happening with movies being made today. Studios never learn.
@WalkBesideMe
@WalkBesideMe 4 жыл бұрын
Justice League-What Happened? I'm curious to see how Matt can tackle that debacle into a 20 minute video.
@MattMcMuscles
@MattMcMuscles 4 жыл бұрын
I don't even want to.
@WalkBesideMe
@WalkBesideMe 4 жыл бұрын
@@MattMcMuscles LMAO. I don’t blame you, especially since it's an ongoing issue.
@Aliexster
@Aliexster 4 жыл бұрын
I would just like to see something about the scrapped version of Justice League that was supposed to be directed by George Miller of Mad Max fame. I am disappointed we didn't get to see Immortan Martian or Valkyrie Wonder Woman.
@xenodude4718
@xenodude4718 4 жыл бұрын
Joss Whedon, that's wha Happun
@thunderphoenix440
@thunderphoenix440 4 жыл бұрын
I remember eating this stuff up in the sci-fi movie rags in the '90s as a Teepling, about how it was supposed to be a Cold War thing but they got cold feet (hah) after the Berlin Wall fell. Reading about that goofy stuff in the Alien series was part of my formative parts of being a scifi nerd. Also 3 still has one of my favorite moments in the series when it did that scary version of the 20th Century Fox fanfare at the beginning.
@wolfhawk1999
@wolfhawk1999 4 жыл бұрын
Funny that one of the best directors of our time (or ever) started his career with a flop. Kinda inspiring, really
@MemeMachine-po9zo
@MemeMachine-po9zo 4 жыл бұрын
The dog in the alien suit is one of the cutest things I've ever seen, if he jumped from the celling and ripped me apart limb from limb I would still try and pet him.
@steamboathedgie
@steamboathedgie 2 жыл бұрын
The voice you did at 11:00 for the Michael Biehn interview is absolute gold 👑
@Leesin6767
@Leesin6767 3 жыл бұрын
Paul McGann’s character was also brilliant. Alien 3 was not a typical Alien film and that’s what made it great, it was gritty, moody and dark and Bishop’s scene really hits that home.
@RideTheLightning728
@RideTheLightning728 4 жыл бұрын
2:17 Proceeds to do the exact same thing to his own Terminator franchise with Dark Fate.
@Tareltonlives
@Tareltonlives 4 жыл бұрын
I love how the dog's reaction is the same as the audience: "Really? REALLY?"
@ultrabaltard1479
@ultrabaltard1479 4 жыл бұрын
*THIS HAS BEEN AN EPISODE I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR*
@QuarantineV1
@QuarantineV1 4 жыл бұрын
The Assembly Cut was actually pretty good. Wasn't super great, but it was at least much more competent.
@Kenshiro3rd
@Kenshiro3rd 4 жыл бұрын
The BD Assembly Cut of Alien 3 was actually pretty decent.
@GamerSlyRatchet1
@GamerSlyRatchet1 4 жыл бұрын
Oooh, I've always wanted to learn about this movie's history. Never seen it, only seen the first two. Btw, is there any chance you'll ever cover Insomniac's Fuse? Thanks!
@bigkmoviesandgames
@bigkmoviesandgames 4 жыл бұрын
I'd recommend the assembly cut of alien 3 if you'd like to see it.
@battlion507
@battlion507 4 жыл бұрын
Fuse? I thought it was called Overstrike and.... ooooh... And Insomniac with EA... oooh nooo...
@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09
@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09 4 жыл бұрын
There's a 3hr long making of documentary, which is excellent.
@XoOVectorOoX
@XoOVectorOoX 4 жыл бұрын
The comics that focused on the the three that survived at the end of Aliens is a whole lot better than what fox did with Alien 3. The relationship with hicks and the little girl. I still refrain from watching this film and I don't think Ill ever watch it.
@drivemecloser
@drivemecloser 4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: There was a comic book sequel to Aliens called Alien: Earth War. Later publishing runs changed the identities of Newt, Hicks, and Ripley to try to fit with Alien 3's canon. In 2017 they said to hell with it and rereleased the saga with the original characters intact.
@connorsmith1005
@connorsmith1005 4 жыл бұрын
Just seeing this video in my subs made my day Matt, thank you.
@matrixman124
@matrixman124 Жыл бұрын
Matthew's Michael Biehn impression is golden.
@universalperson
@universalperson 4 жыл бұрын
I once read someone who explained that Alien 3 should have had a change in genre, the way Alien to Aliens did. They proposed that Alien 3 should have been a heist movie...which could have still worked with the real Alien 3's prison setting.
@IDKeffect82
@IDKeffect82 4 жыл бұрын
Dude. Epic video my guy. I shared this with my movie buff film friend. And you're right, Micheal Biehn is a legend. Shame, I would like to see that Monk stuff, lol.
@lexnoil
@lexnoil 4 жыл бұрын
Another amazing video that i just watched, and me and my friend already backed In Search of Tomorrow last week, and we pledge for the Admiral Kirk reward!
@denisehuston2573
@denisehuston2573 4 жыл бұрын
You're killing me with these, Mr. McMuscles, keep up the stellar work!
@acethurman71
@acethurman71 4 жыл бұрын
Omg that clip of the live action avatar movie brought back unpleasant memories
@neocat36
@neocat36 3 жыл бұрын
"I think it was a big mistake."... well said.
@adambourne5523
@adambourne5523 4 жыл бұрын
I liked it, it's nihilistic setting made it my favourite of the franchise; it could not live in isolation (no pun intended) but as a trilogy ender I thought it worked with lots of fun unanswered questions.
@erodrodri126
@erodrodri126 4 жыл бұрын
Heck yeah, I’ve been waiting for this one
@randomtask5420
@randomtask5420 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you doing another movie episode. Good stuff
@PedrozaJonathan
@PedrozaJonathan 4 жыл бұрын
It took me a minute to find the comment sections, but Matt, I just want to show you my verbal support (because the BRL to USD exchange is nuts right now so I can't Patreon you) and say that you're one of the only youtubers I still support and watch videos. Your quick looks are not really my thing but seeing you playing things you enjoy or have fun making the video of is really nice, but you really shine on your on the spot comments like in the Xbox reveal video as well as in these kind of videos like "what happened" and other similar ones. Keep it up! I hope you're doing well!
@Saibot_the_Noob
@Saibot_the_Noob 4 жыл бұрын
This the one project I have truly been waiting for
@johnaraya3761
@johnaraya3761 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand why shows made so good as this doesn’t have millions of subs but crap shows do. Man I love this show thanks for everything champ
@BaxterD
@BaxterD 4 жыл бұрын
Great episode, to anyone who enjoyed this I highly recommend Oliver Harper's retrospective on Alien 3 (and pretty much any of his retrospectives), while lacking in Matt's flair for comedy, Oliver gives great insight and context to a lot of the "what happened?"'s in films of the past and I find them highly enjoyable.
@darthmaul589
@darthmaul589 4 жыл бұрын
Watching both versions, I get why people prefer the Assembly Cut, but it has problems of its own, mostly pacing that makes it drag. I wish there was a cut somewhere in between those two versions, but really, Alien 3 in any state is just an OK movie and a bad sequel. I get why some people like it, but ultimately so many ideas and characters are half-baked or clumsily slammed in there, you would need to reshoot most of the movie to get a worthy sequel to Alien/Aliens. Well, at least we have Alien: Isolation.
@matthewsmith5687
@matthewsmith5687 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome work as always, keep it up!
@thegreenishcrab
@thegreenishcrab 4 жыл бұрын
On a real note Alien 3 is a good gem of a sci-fi movie to come across if you were looking for sci-fi movies from a bit ago apart from the established big ones, I dig it
@ddogh26
@ddogh26 2 жыл бұрын
I love this show. The infotainment is great, and I've been randomly binge watching the show.
@Mogrim27
@Mogrim27 4 жыл бұрын
I love all the details and research that goes into this series and of course a dash of that McMuscles flair.
@JadeFoxAlpha
@JadeFoxAlpha 3 жыл бұрын
This movie is the single most fascinating failure. It's so full of good ideas, that absolutely all want nothing to do with each other.
@PHONEyah
@PHONEyah 4 жыл бұрын
Huge love towards hearing "if you're like me (and I know I am)" for the first time in ages
@mikethegrunty5968
@mikethegrunty5968 4 жыл бұрын
And I’d still rather watch this over Covenant
@OvertheHedge06
@OvertheHedge06 3 жыл бұрын
Covenant is a fucking underrated film.
@thebatman4279
@thebatman4279 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. Covenant is godawful garbage, all the more surprising when you consider Ridley Scott directed it.
@glitchunicorn
@glitchunicorn 4 жыл бұрын
There’s a whole story about how hr giger’s xenomorph got rejected too.
@coolman229
@coolman229 Жыл бұрын
It never ceases to amaze me how a studio can see a great script that might need some tweaking and instead of saying "This is good let's just tighten it up" they throw it out wholesale and then end up going with a blatantly terrible script.
@Acuzzam
@Acuzzam 4 жыл бұрын
More What Happened about movies! This was great! Love your videos.
@Marmbo
@Marmbo 4 жыл бұрын
I love the Aliens arcade music in the background!
@julee2923
@julee2923 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for doing another film! lynch’s dune sometime? you’re really great with your research and production. i think you can add to the stories and make them more accessible than ever!
@Justgetmein
@Justgetmein 2 жыл бұрын
Daaawwww, the little dog looks so cute in his alien outfit. I would just die!
@sulacomarine
@sulacomarine 4 жыл бұрын
Proud to say that I just backed "In Search of Tomorrow"! Can't wait to see it when it releases!
@anubusx
@anubusx 4 жыл бұрын
Alien 3 should've had the Xenomorphs on Earth.
@jataviouswilliamson3598
@jataviouswilliamson3598 3 жыл бұрын
ikr
@jataviouswilliamson3598
@jataviouswilliamson3598 3 жыл бұрын
ALIEN 3 should I've been on Earth in New York City with The Alien Xenomorphs taking over The whole world 🌇🌆🌃🏙️🌐😱🏃🏾‍♂️😔🤦🏾‍♂️
@anubusx
@anubusx 3 жыл бұрын
@@jataviouswilliamson3598 That would've been pretty awesome to see!!!!!
@jataviouswilliamson3598
@jataviouswilliamson3598 3 жыл бұрын
ALIEN 3 WOULD I'VE AN ADULT VERSION OF REBECCA NEWT JORDAN AKA NEWT FROM ALIENS EARTH WAR STORYLINE 🌇🏙️🌆🌃🌐🤤🤤🤤🤤😘😘😘👨🏾👩🏼🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🤞🏾🤞🏾🤞🏾
@anubusx
@anubusx 3 жыл бұрын
@@jataviouswilliamson3598 It could've been an awesome film done like that.
@trevordavis6830
@trevordavis6830 4 жыл бұрын
I remember hearing that H.R. Giger actually went to the producers of Alien 3 and repeatedly asked to help work on it, even going so far as to make a new alien design for free sending it to them, only for the producers to repeatedly turn him down.
@riceinpeace8190
@riceinpeace8190 4 жыл бұрын
Your impressions are fire bro
@Jaisyl77
@Jaisyl77 4 жыл бұрын
Love this series!!
@MADKapo
@MADKapo 3 жыл бұрын
Fox: we want a sequel now! Also Fox: *rejects scripts for 4 damn years*
@rolando90s
@rolando90s 3 жыл бұрын
@tsorf fuck Hollywood they ruined favorite movies and shows. Even horrible live anime movie
@dandel1985
@dandel1985 4 жыл бұрын
15:50 Alien 3 subverting expectations before it was cool
@LumiRockets
@LumiRockets 3 жыл бұрын
If only we could get each of those abandoned scripts made today (with a few alterations so that Sigourney Weaver can move on with her life), we might actually get back to having interesting Alien films.
@diegoantoniorosariopalomin4977
@diegoantoniorosariopalomin4977 4 жыл бұрын
do a video on the star wars sequel trilogy
@michaelwolfe9496
@michaelwolfe9496 4 жыл бұрын
That would be such a long video.
@jurassicclassic6543
@jurassicclassic6543 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelwolfe9496 could be 3 videos
@lizsean481
@lizsean481 4 жыл бұрын
How do you put these super in-depth videos together so quickly?! Your work ethic puts most other youtubers to shame! Though hope you're not slowly burning yourself out with your insane output speed.
@Demigod_3scrub
@Demigod_3scrub 4 жыл бұрын
This was really good.. 👍 The 3rd Strike Reference was funny af !
@Mathmachine
@Mathmachine 4 жыл бұрын
7:19 EA, is that you?
@bobafett4265
@bobafett4265 4 жыл бұрын
I am part of the minority that liked Alien 3 and saw it as an end to Ellen Ripley's story, gave me vibes that they would've done more with Alien but with different people allowing anyone to have a role as iconic Ripley or Hex and what not, but apparently Fox has to ruin everything... 🤷‍♂️
@bobafett4265
@bobafett4265 4 жыл бұрын
Also one thing, the director's cut of Alien 3 as pointed out by Matt McMuscles, is not only an improvement but is the best version of Alien 3 to watch, made even me impressed. 😁
@LBAW
@LBAW 4 жыл бұрын
I personally really enjoyed Alien 3 when I first watched it. It helps that I love Fincher’s movies, and I wasn’t really a fan of Aliens.
@DolanOk
@DolanOk 4 жыл бұрын
Love the video Mr.big muscles
@nightwishfan1991
@nightwishfan1991 4 жыл бұрын
This movie is a personal rabbit hole of mine. I have dug up so much info on this nightmare of a production that I've kind of become obsessed with it. To me the production is far more fascinating than the movie itself.
@steveluna1627
@steveluna1627 4 жыл бұрын
For a moment I thought that I was getting a bugged ad but then realized it was part of the video
@brandonking5111
@brandonking5111 4 жыл бұрын
funny thing is with all the production problems, it is still the 3rd best Alien movie.
@christmashake8968
@christmashake8968 4 жыл бұрын
Wonderful job on this again, Matt! :) For those who’re interested in horror analyses, I’d recommend checking out John Kenneth Muir’s books on 1970s, 1980s, & 1990s American-released horror-the last of which includes perhaps by far the most wonderfully-written defense of this film I’ve ever seen anyone give, one that might be the main reason I’ve started to like it as much as “Alien” and “Aliens.”
@gorvarhadgarson5227
@gorvarhadgarson5227 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Matt, your Hicks and Tywin voices are on point!
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