Piastri looking like genius right now for telling alpine to shove it and signing with mclaren.

Gotta be honest, the mad dash for the pits was pretty exciting to watch 😅 It made the sprint feel like an entirely new race format. Almost surprised there were no major incidents there.

Gasly's drive is going under the radar with how well Max and Piastri have driven. An Alpine that hasn't been great over the past few races holding off Hamilton and Perez during the sprint.

The reason Max stayed out for an extra lap was because they were to affraid they got delayed in the pit to much because their pitbox is right at the beginning of the pitlane and (almost) all cars coming in and not wanting to do an unsafe release.. Ironically the FIA seemed to be blind to unsafe releases today, as there were a few very obvious ones..

I feel bad for Alonso on his bday. Also loving Piastri's rookie season so far

As a suffering Alpine fan it was great to see such a brilliant performance from Gasly. He earned more points in the sprint than the entire team have since Monaco at the end of May.

About the Alonso incident, I just love how the moderators on Sky Germany immediately were like "Stroll hit the wall! (…) No, wait, that's Alonso" 😂 Super uncharacteristic of him to make such a mistake, but I guess even the best sometimes slip up.

Riiight carry too much speed into a corner and understeer into the side of the car AHEAD and it's not a penalty? JOKE

Everyone was ignoring Oscar and saying that he wasnt having a good rookie year because he hadnt done anything. Now he has a good car and everyone is like "wow, amazing!"

I don’t mind the the shorter sprint race today, the 5 formation laps were meant purely to guarantee driver safety by making the track as dry as possible. We don’t want to lose another driver, RIP Antoine & Dilano

This weekend so far proves, that Bernie perhaps wasn't THAT bonkers with his proposal to install sprinkles trackside

Why do people proclaim to know what was in the mind of the stewards? For the stewards it's a slam dunk penalty when a car understeers into another, unless it's lap 1, while trying to overtake. Hamilton chose to overtake there. Hamilton understeered into Perez. Why does Perez need to leave more than a car's width? There's NOTHING in the rules that says he needs to do that. If you want 'racing' then cars shouldn't just wave another through.

I disagree about the penalty. I wasn't really sure if it was a penalty on the broadcast, but from watching the onboards and Sam Collin's analysis makes it clear it's a penalty. Perez gave space and Lewis understeered into him. Unfortunate for Perez, although he had no pace in general. Lewis really should've just waited for the bus stop. The broadcast didn't really do it service. Perez isn't entitled to give space. He gave multiple cars widths and Lewis kept his foot in to understeer. Luckily it's just a sprint so it doesn't really matter and Lewis is getting P3 in the WDC anyway.

Is there any solution to the british bias or we just have to deal with it?

hamilton didn't loose grip, he went on the curb and desided too go the left.................and take the redbull out Like siverstone...it's his way of racing today

Surprised Tommy completely forgot Lewis pipping max by 0.003 literally last race as the tiniest margin.

He was causing a collision and got a penalty for causing that collision. I really dont know what the big deal is here.

Did you guys even watch Hamilton’s onboard when he punched a hole on Perez’s car?? Perez was on the edge of the corner near the curb. Where was he supposed to go?? Hamilton damaged Perez’s car on the exit of the corner (turn 15) before the straight (before Hamiltons front wing touched Parez again) Not defending Perez here, he’s just an average driver in a championship winning car. But have to agree with Penalty on Hamilton.

A few thing about the HAM vs PER situation. Firstly, the whole bit about consequences not being taking into account should be look at in context. If there are no consequences at all, it will not even be referred to the stewards. If there are consequences, it will. So in this regard, consequences do play a role. Secondly, during the race, I thought the penalty was harsh. Watching it again from the onboard, I changed my mind. Hamilton didn't steer into Checo or anything like that. But he took way more curb than he needed to and as a consequence, he washed into Checo. As Checo sidepod being messed up, if you listen to the sound during the incident, you hear that Lewis' wheel actually grinds at the sidepod for quite a while. It's not a tap. It in fact really surprised me that Lewis didn't pick up a puncture...

Sorry but hamilton loses the car as he said if u lose the car then its on you, hamilton had room on the inside clearly then oversteered into perez, how more obvious is the penalty

Sorry but Penalty ALL DAY… Not a RB fan but contact causing car damage during the race like this always a penalty. He used Checo’s car as a guiding rail ! Same as Zhou in Hungary.

I usually agree with you guys but felt you were inconsisent this time. I know the delay was not welcome but given the conditions today, and given how the FIA turned the 2021 race into a dud (it was the main race, not even a sprint which would have been more bearable), I'd say this was pretty much the best they could do. I know you guys overlooked "logistics" but on an already packed sprint weekend, I think the 4 hour rule shouldn't be overlooked so easily. Even in the FP vs sprint discussion, FP3 rarely has representative running, so if we compare a 45 min normal saturday quali to the 30 min quali + 30 min race on sprint weekends, I'd say the latter offers more "racing" view time for the audience. It was a pity we couldn't get the full 15 laps, but again, I don't really see how it could have been any better.

Big L on your Hamilton penalty opinion. Check F1TV, he deserved it..punched a hole for crying out loud..not perez fault that hamilton cant control his car

This is my first full season of following F1. Watched you guys a little bit last year from WTF and I'm really happy you guys are crushing the game in the F1 space.

I’m sorry but how was Perez supposed to give more room to Hamilton? He’s ahead all the way through, basically near the white line/ curb. He doesn’t want to chance putting a wheel out there because of the wet conditions. Per has given Ham ample room to use on the inside the corner. Ham doesn’t have a snap of oversteer yes, but he washes out towards the edge of the tract, ie he’s got understeer because he’s gone in a little to fast where his line through the corner and Perez’s link and because they’re next to each other the make contact. Perez has done nothing wrong and yet received effective ‘terminal damage’. And it doesn’t matter how the rule or the officiating is written - the consequence of an incident is always taken into account. Take Spa last year, no pen for Hamilton with Alonso, why because Ham retired due to the damage he caused and Alo was able to continue relatively unscathed. Bet you there would have been a pen for Ham if they both retired or only Alonso retired. Furthermore I do think this incident has many similarities to one’s we have seen in Austria turn 4. Cars more along side each other in this instance but it’s still the inside car taking the corner at a speed where they’re always going to wash out to the outside curb where the car that has taken the outside line has to be because that is the edge of the track. In effect basic corner physics.

I think if Perez had to think about “there is a driver beside me I should give more room” then Hamilton has to think about there is a car beside me if I go in too hot and under steer in his car I should slow down a bit!

If Max went to the pit first time around he would lose 2-4 positions. Piastri was lucky that McLaren’s garage is one of the last ones on the grid, and when he made his pit cars behind had to stop behind him as well. RB’s garage is first on the right when you come to the pit, if Max made that pit in that first lap he would have McLaren, Ferrari, Mercedes, Alpine immediately behind him and he would have to wait for them to pass or get a 5 seconds unsafe release penalty. That’s why Max stayed out.

"the 5sec penalty is harsh" - perez had to retire.. - car was damaged.. - hamilton would have finished 4th/3rd but the penalty is harsh.. make it make sense...

I work a job which is weather dependent and it's not as simple as it may seem. My situation is similar to F1 in that I've got to make my decision with at least an hours notice as to whether the job goes ahead, if the expected bad weather doesn't turn up you get blamed for being too cautious and inconveniencing people, if you gamble on the weather being ok and it shits it down you put yourself, your tools and other peoples time/money at risk trying to fudge your way through it. Sometimes you look at the big black smudge heading towards you on the map and think, yep, definitely gonna rain in about an hour so I'll cancel and then the hour rolls around and it's clear skies for the rest of the day because the big rain cloud either emptied itself or decided it'd be more fun to swing north for no apparent reason, sometimes you look at the radar and there's a few little clouds hanging around but they're going to miss by a good 50 miles and then suddenly you're running for cover because one of those clouds took exception to your assumptions and dropped a thunderstorm right on top of you. It's easy to look back and say "well of course I should have done X or Y" after it's happened but when you've got expectation and responsibility on your shoulders you make some poor calls at times

Watch Perez onboard,, Perez holds his line and Hamilton gets a quick snap of understeer into his car,,, and generally speaking when you put a hole in someone’s side pod and they have to retire the car when it’s 100% your fault your probably going to get a penalty…

Crazy how Hamilton had over 3/4 of the track width and still these people pay “Perez could’ve given more room” LMAO

Its funny how many times a MB driver has hit a red bull and making big damage. And still they call max agressive.

Penalty against a British driver?!? BLASPHEMOUS 😂

As reviewed on F1TV by Sam Collins, it was a clear penalty. Lewis hit the kerb and slid into the sidepod of Perez. Not on purpose. but a just penalty nonetheless.

Hamilton has now caused similar accidents to Albon, Max and Checo by tapping their car while they're ahead and on the outside of the corner, leaving plenty of space for Lewis to make it.

The reason for the Hamilton penalty is that he can feel the front of his tires are about to give way and he does not lift. Instead, he continues to apply accelerator knowing, if the front of his car gives way, the side of Perez's car is there to save him. Hamilton literally aimed his car at the side of Perez's car and got the impact he knew was coming. The huge hole in the side of Perez car is really astonishing to see. Hamilton definitely earned that penalty. Hamilton COULD have lifted, dropped immediately behind and kept fighting but he took the more dangerous option. He's done this several times before.

I giggled like a little girl who's playing peekaboo with her daddy when Max Verstappen finished the line in first place. 😄

I don't understand why they even bother shipping the full wets around the world when all they do is wait for the conditions to be good for inters. I'm trying to imagine what magical combination of conditions they are waiting for that has enough water to necessitate full wets, yet not enough water to cause spray/visibility issues. Instead of limiting the number of slicks teams get, they should just give up on the wets and admit they aren't going to even bother running in the conditions that require them.

Hard disagree with ham checo comments. Checo was ahead, with enough space. Ham made a mistake that dnfed another car.

Piastri is such an exciting prospect. Truly, in my opinion the best rookie for years. Running under the radar big time seemingly

Love seeing Landos ego being taken down a peg or 2 😂

yes, it was a penalty. I don't know why everybody freaks out whenever lewis gets a penalty

Perez could have left Hamilton more room? How much room is he supposed to give him? Go off track and let him by? He literally gave him all the room that he should, Hamilton literally has about a car width to work with, more than he plenty of time gives others for that matter. Lewis had no oversteer or understeer or whatever, like you said yourself. And YET, he somehow has this jolt of turning towards Checo? I'm sorry, but how many times are we just going to excuse this shit from Hamilton? He does this SOOO much, this 'accidental' turn in on his opponents where he ends up 95% of the time EXACTLY tapping the rear wheel of his opponent? Over FIFTEEN times AT LEAST has he done exactly that, and I mean EXACTLY that. You're telling me that's still just an incident, an accident, a coinkidink? Or maybe, JUUUUUUUST maybe has Hamilton figured out how effective it can work and was he just once again aiming to do the same to Checo and bump him off the track and out of his way by tapping his rear wheel, but just missed this time and hit the side-pod instead? And we're really saying that's just an incident, and the poor, poor innocent little boy didn't deserve a penalty for that? How many times does he have to do this before he actually gets the criticism he deserves for it? The guy has SO much skill and talent, even now in his lesser days, he doesn't AT ALL have to do any of those gross tricks, yet, here we are AGAIN. I was cheering my ass off that for ONCE, at least ONCE he finally gets a penalty for this shit. But OF COURSE immediatley everyone is jumping to the poor Lewis' defense, because he could kill a room full of puppies and he'd still be innocent...

In my opinion in racing it’s the passing cars job not to hit the car ahead Hamilton never completed the pass then hit Perez. Hamilton carried to much speed wanting to get passed Perez then hit him that’s a penalty.

After watching the onboards, my assessment is that it's a fair penalty for Hamilton. Of course both drivers have a responsibility during an overtake to keep it safe and clean, but the main burden is on the driver who is overtaking - Lewis, in this case. He's entitled to space, but that doesn't mean the racing line, or even a fast line. That's why you see so few overtakes on the outside, they get starved and have a bad run into the next straight. Drivers know and thus rarely even attempt it. Checo did his part. He left him the required space and kept to his line. Lewis had to drive over the curb to make the overtake stick (which is perfectly legal by Checo - it's not "off track", regardless of whether the weather makes it feasible or not), so Hamilton can either pull back and try again, or take the curb, and accept the risk of an "incident" in these conditions. Lewis knew what a wet curb does to his car. He chose to go over it. He was just impatient and caused a preventable collision.

Piastri is killing it. I haven’t been this excited for a rookie season since Max or perhaps even Lewis.

Certain fans have been crying for pens left right and centre but not happy when their fave driver gets one

I don’t wish leclerc poorly… but I’m expecting some winners of a reaction from Matt tomorrow. And a good chuckle for the rest of us.

He has done it SO MANY times, FIA needs to crack him down

Usually I think youre quite objective. That's why I like this f1talks. But this is straight up shithousery, Perez was still ahead you said? Yeah duh Ham just stayed behind for 2 seconds becuz of fhe bump. Hamilton with all his precious experience had plenty of enough room to even get the apex clean. He drifts wide wants to take to much speed, then bumps into perez side, just ending his race.

Give me back the F1 from the begin 2000s and earlier. Good races in the rain, not a red flag as soon there is a drop

I believe the penalty for Hamilton was correct. There is a part of me thinking about it being a race incident but that is a very small part. Checo was already near the edge of the track and couldn't go much further. Hamilton chose to stick to the middle and run hot into the corner. He basically understeered into checo so to speak For me that is just a driver judgement error where there is zooooo much room on The inside of the corner where he should have been.

Ricciardo’s 10th place in a wet sprint race in that shitbox AlphaTauri is a good effort, curious to see if he can maintain a points position over the full race distance

I get arguing that hamilton was not at fault and it was a racing incident. But your brain actually needs to have more damage than perez's sidepod to blame perez for what happened.

On the penalty, I think it's warranted. Lewis understeered into the side of Checo, but it wasn't deliberate. Him later quoting that Senna line afterwards sets a dangerous precedent. You have to judge the risks before sending it into a gap.

Sam Collins puts out some really good analysis on F1 tv after the sessions. Using video footage of the LH incident, he explains how LH getting his right front onto the slippery paint caused him to lose just the right amount of grip, forcing him to make a slight correction. That slight correction happened at the exact moment when the two cars were closest to eachother. Its a racing incident imo, but i can also see how it is a penalty because LH's correction was because he put the tyre on a spot that caused the car to lose grip.

While everyone is arguing about the Perez Hamilton I do feel Gasly got away with murder with his release during the pitstop. All the teams held their cars in the same situation in order to not do an unsafe release. Oh and on the Lewis, Checo situation. The rules states 'causing a collision' and that was exactly what happened he caused a collision by making a mistake, it's his misjudgment taking to much curb.

Seeing some stuff, Ham just turned in to much, got onto the wet curbes and drifted out into Perez, so Hamilton clearly is af fault, wirh the sprint format 5s maybe a tad hard but no penalty would've been equally unfair to Perez who got his race ruined

I have to laugh at the idea that they should have ignored the rules for the show. All I see everywhere is people complaining that the FIA doesn’t follow the rules. 😂

Matt it wasn’t a tap and Lewis has a history of washing out wide to take out another driver 💀💀💀

1. Car 2 was trying to make a pass, he did not make the pass safely and ran into his competitors car. 2. PCar 1 left proper spacing on the inside? Yes/ Car 2 leave proper spacing on the outside? No A Car 2 deserves a penalty Do i believe it was marginal sure. Was Perez going slow when Hamilton went for the overtake? No, he wasn’t. He was being patient, wait for a strait and overtake in a strait line. I’d say, good ambition ha,intoned but you don’t need to rush a move you’re more experienced and should know better than to force an overtake.

It wasn't a harsh penalty. Lewis risked it by taking the curbs in wet conditions and understeered. He had room to stay on the grippy tarmac but he chose not to. Perez left Lewis a cars width of space on the tarmac. Perez wasn't squeezing.

To be fair I thought the 5second penalty was harsh, as I thought it was great racing…… until I saw the damage on Perez car and realised that Lewis hit him harder than I thought, shocked how Lewis escaped without a puncture.

when this video is almost longer than the actual sprint race

Lewis has a habit of understeering into other drivers "by accident". In these tricky conditions it is on the overtaking car (coming from behind) to make sure he judges the situation correctly, which he didn't.

Contact with damage should always be someone’s penalty.

It was intentional move to open the sidepod of the RedBull, George did it to Max a while ago as well, they are trying to see inside that sidepod

I feel like the Hamilton incident is the rules being applied as they are written, which can be harsh, but as we've seen with track limits recently things get much more confusing if you're inconsistent. Sergio was ahead into the corner, and thus had the right to the space he took, so long as he didn't force Lewis off the track which he didn't. That means that Hamilton has the duty of care to ensure that there isn't a collision, as he is the trailing driver, which he failed to do, thus it is a penalty by the rules. In terms of a "spirit of the law versus letter of the law argument", I think a case could be made for Perez as well, all weekend we've seen how deadly the white lines can be in the wet, many drivers have gone off, Perez was much closer to the lines, and could have easily been forced to go into a position where he could have lost control of the vehicle while still being "on the track" if he had taken that turn wider, Hamilton had more tarmac to work with, but chose not to, instead prioritizing the attempt to make an overtake which was never on, leading to the collision.

I disagree with you 100%. Hamilton absolutely deserved the penalty. It's his job to have control of his car, he was the one coming from behind, and you can't put all the risk on the guy who isn't in as much control. Hamilton took extra risk by putting more power into it causing him to drift up and hit Perez hard, shown by a huge hole in Perez's car. Now, you can say that taking Perez out shouldn't be considered, but the whole absolutely should be considered to see how hard the hit actually was. That 5 second penalty is about the only good thing the FIA did all weekend.

Lewis always manages to conveniently understeer into another car. He had previously had more steering lock. It almost looks like he intentionally understeers into Perez

Don’t like the weekend format. Rather more practice tbh.

Of course it was a penalty. After celebrating extensively when he drove Max into the hospital at silverstone, nobody believes he didn't do this on purpose.

"Perez could have left more room" - Tommy on Perez leaving Hamilton ONLY a car and a half of space (and that's without dipping wheels on the paint). Meanwhile, Checo's onboard shows he is approaching the outside line when contact is made. I guess Hamilton wanted to go through Checo to also get to the outside? Bold move...

It was Hamiltons responsibility to not hit Perez. Plain and simple. Perez left more than enough room, but Hamilton wanted more and chose to hit Perez. That's not a "Racing incident". If Hamilton had tried to turn tighter and got oversteer or understeer, then it is a racing incident because Hamilton would have been attempting to avoid the collision. However, that didn't happen. Hamilton drove into Perez. It's a bit of a habit for Hamilton and I think everyone is getting tired of it, even the Stewards.

ah Lewis Hamilton's signature pit manoeuvere against a red bull 😂

Absolutely nothing more checo could have done in that scenario. It was lewis just trying squeeze checo, no snap of understeer, just plainly wanted checo to yield the space he was entitled to. Argument whether or not racing incident or a penalty for Lewis, checo did all he could. Watching the onboard is what got Lewis the penalty, if he locked up or got a snap of understeer would’ve been an racing incident instead he just plainly drove into him. Pretty clear cut.

I think the penalty is more cause of Lewis’ track record. The famous Mercedes little tap has knocked out a lot of cars. This could be a coincidence, but it has happened a lot. Ofcourse he’s not taking cars out on purpose, but he very well knows what happens when hitting cars at that same spot e-ve-ry single time

Might have been a border line harsh penalty but I think it's funny/sad how everyone on TV and now most podcasters, cry when Hamilton gets a rare penalty.

I have to question Pirelli on the point of their Wet Weather tyre. Everyone wants Inter's, and if it is wet enough that they need the Full Wet, then they don't drive (either in practice they sit in the pits or during a race it is red flagged or they sit behind the safety car). Should Pirelli make the current Inter the Full Wet, and then have something like the Supersoft but with grooves for an inter? Something that will go off really quickly if it gets dry, but can still get some heat into it?

The wet tire is a pointless compound due to spray. At any level of standing water where the wet would be required, the spray will be too much and they will either delay or run behind the safety car until the point the point of dryness where the inters are preferable.

Not difficult, Lewis lost control of a car he was supposed to be in control of. All he needed to do was slow it down and pass him like he was always going to a few corners down the road, instead he turned into Lewis of '2021 against Max and just put his foot in it because he's stubborn. It also looks bad when your front wing slams into someones rear engine area, essentially showing you were still behind him in the first place.

Feels like we have been talking about the delays and the effects it had on spectators and teams. But then we forget that a young talent died at this track just a couple of weeks ago. Rather have them call it off than another incident like Anthoine or Dilano

Hamilton wasn't directly alongside, he wouldn't have hit Checo's sidepod with his front wing otherwise. As a result, it's his responsibility for the collision and that's why he gets the penalty. Personally, I prefer this type of call from the stewards. They made the decision quickly and it seems pretty clear cut. If Hamilton had touched wheels, sure, racing indkcident, but that's not what happened. I prefer this level of tight calls to the wishy-washy nonsense of seasons past.

I can’t lie. P1 with Matt and Tommy is the most GOATed podcast and channel on KZfaq for F1. Their synergy together is unparalleled and they bounce off each other so perfectly. Keep up the good work lads

I can understand why the sprint race was delayed due to the safety of the drivers after the tragic deaths at Belgium in the junior categories

Lewis DESERVED THE PENALTY. He did to Checo what he did to Max at Copps at Silverstone; Lewis ran into a car that was ahead in the corner on the outside. NO ONE SHOULD BE HIT when they’re ahead in the corner! Lewis was RESPONSIBLE for staying on the inside, but he opened his steering and touched Checo, damaging his car. As hard as it may be to accept, Sir Lewis isn’t allowed to take out other drivers! Quit hitting people, Lewis!

The thing with the sprints is that they feel weird because they are still experimental. Not every race weekend, only a few in the season. If you look at F2, sprint wins and podiums are just as valued as main race wins and podiums. At the end of the day, if the championship fight was close, these sprint points would be gold.

The British bias coming strong. Perez was literally on the edge of the track and the gravel trap!!!! Where else could be have gone?!?! On the gravel to let the merc golden boy through just because the merc boy isn't tidy enough to execute a tighter line. If you're gonna overtake, you have to alter your lines accordingly, you can't just throw your car into another which is ahead and hope for the best. Deserved penalty.

Checo/Lewis seems very similar to Max/Lewis in Silverstone 21 Lewis trying to overtake up the inside, not fully alongside and lets the car run wide - RB on the outside not wanting to make it easy for Lewis so keeping the line tight Its a tough call but isn't the rules basically that the car in front dictates the line (as long as they leave enough space for the other driver) and the trailing car works within the space they are left?

no idea what you are talking about. the penalty was spot on. ham was insistant on taking a certain line when exiting the corner acting like there wasn't a car to the left front of him. textbook penalty behaviour. bad take guys.

Perez left him enough space and Hamilton decided he can go faster into the corner than he can. Hamilton didn't take the line he originally started on and damaged the other car. He did the same last year in Spain with Kmag where he didn't judge his speed correctly and punted Kmag off. At least this time he got a penalty for it The bigger question is why is Perez so bad he battles a Mercedes.

There is a regulated 4.5 hour minimum between the sessions, if they shortened that time as a once off and a team didn't have a car ready how would that go down?

I think both cars should have to screw up for it to be a "racing incident." In this case lewis just understeered into his opponent and broke his car. Seems like a fair penalty.

No question that the only reason Max stayed out on lap 1 was to avoid pit traffic, with some consideration of possible yellows/reds.

Mercedes sure likes to “just tap” cars the last few years. F1 has a massive problem with inconsistent stewarding and maybe it’s time to start to consider the outcome of an incident because you can essentially take out a competitor and get away with a very minor slap on the wrist.

Not an RB fanboy and I haven’t watched the onboards but watching it live, Perez was too far ahead to give Lewis a free pass

Yes, Hamilton totally deserved the penalty, no question about it. He knows Perez is there and decides in a classic Mercedes driver fashion "I'm gonna run you out mate". Well this time there were consequences. Props for him for actually hitting the apex this time.

About the Perez and Ham collision, Ham had a bit of oversteer if you look closely. He goes with the right wheel on apex of the corner where is still some water. I think that the penalty is right because he went to overtake a car and istead he hit that car doing so, Perez retired from the race.

The penalty was deserved. Lewis didnt hit him intentionally, it has harsh consequences but it was deserved

Not a hamilton fan or hater. But he went for a cheeky pass up the inside in a fast corner complex. And washed out into checo and caused damage. Slam dunk penalty and also something he has done several times before