Matt, I think its not that Alex needs to move to a midfield team, it's that he's going to make Williams INTO that midfield team.

Better Help Therapy sponsor seems like a relevant sponsor for Matts eternal Ferrari breakdown.

You guys should add a line graph to for each driver's points earned over the season to see their performance trend!

Perez won 2 races and said well that's enough for the season

Albon is a very intelligent driver, Max said time and time again the advices and report Albon gave from sim has been massive help.

I feel like I can predict Matt's eventual breakdown as the season continues and Ferrari continues to Ferrari

I think Matt should have to take a shot every time he says “washed”

It’s very refreshing to see you guys acknowledge Max’s season. It might be boring competition wise, but we’re witnessing history.

Think Hulk has been done dirty by these rankings tbh. He puts the car in places it has no right to be in quali and through no fault of his own goes backwards in the race. Feels v harsh having him so low.

I love the pod but the Sainz chat sometimes is baffling….the analysis of how the grid would look like without redbull in a previous video had Sainz on multiple podiums...hoped it would open their eyes a bit. The new pods since have been the same. In this video, Tommy said he’s been up and down but consistent…make it make sense 😂

How are people constantly saying that zhou is doing great and Bottas terrible while bottas is clearly ahead in both qualifying and race finishes. If the car wasn’t so bad the points gap would also be much bigger. I don’t think bottas is doing that good tbh but I really don’t understand where all the praise for zhou is coming from while constantly finishing behind a „washed“ driver

I really like the objectivity of the pro-rated scores across the season. It does eliminate the emotional connection and recency bias, even when you feel it should be different. The biggest example of this for me is RUS ranking, which for me emotionally should have been 6th or 7th. Good job with this.

What I like about this list is that even though it's unbiased, it shows what everyone (at least most) F1 think, and that's the fact that Max, Alonso, and Hamilton are just better drivers than everyone else. Sure, Lando, Charles, George, and others can deliver when the conditions are right and the stars align, but these three have been dominating the sport for years for a reason.

I think Albon would do well paired with Fernando at Aston Martin. Really think Stroll has had his time and chance. It's ridiculously clear why he still has a seat.

expanding more on max's consistency, I think that it's even more difficult to be consistent with a season that has so many more races. people think that having more races makes it easier to break records but no, the longer season is taxing to the mind and body both and having to deliver week after week with literally little to no rest in between is tremendous

Crazy to me that Leclerc is below Perez and Russel in Matt's list

I think Tommy's list is close to how I would've rated all the drivers. Can't wait to see how they pan out as the season moves forward

The top 3 is just right. Russell 4th is crazy 😂. I knew Matt was rating him too highly in previous races but ye. The top 3 are clear.

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Considering the time he’s had in F1 to develop, I don’t think we can grade Stroll as higher than Logan. I always thought he deserved to be in F1, albeit in a back marker or mid field car, but boy was I wrong. It probably won’t happen but I hope Stroll leaves place for younger talent.

i would love to see a line graph that charts each of the driver's scores over the season while you talk about the average. that way we can get a nice look at the highs and lows, and how they've progressed over time (according to your ratings, of course)

used to watch u on wtf1 and saw when u moved glad to see u on my recommended and see u going well!

Russell P4 is absolutely mental. Go seek a GP Matty pls

Honestly, anyone who says it's just the car is absolutely insane. The performances Max, Lewis & Nando have pulled throughout their careers is exceptional. They truly are 3 of the greatest talents the sport has ever seen.

It would be interesting to see this list as ratings points scored, a "P1 Drivers Championship" if you will, might help balance out the Danny Ric anomaly.

Tom and Matt slowly coming to the conclusion that their rating system isn’t effective over half a season 🤣

I'd like to see Albon in the merc alongside Russel in the next few years.

That was informative, entertaining and largely logical, which I appreciate. Thank you gentlemen.

No no, there is something chilly about that Sauber seat. We all saw kimi, how he chilled like too much chilled when he was in Alfa romeo

You can tell Matt n tommy JUST learned what recency bias is 😂😂

Both of you having Sainz outside the top 10 seems quite harsh. I would argue that he has been much more consistent than Leclerc, and has been unlucky to not have a podium by now. There is an argument that Sainz has been better than Leclerc this season

Zhou ahead of Bottas is still criminal. Bottas has literally been better in quali and race

George has been completely anonymous this year, flubs qualy half the time, drives into people and crashes by himself. Can ANYBODY give a reason he is ranked so high?? He's performing reletive to stroll vs where HAM finishes..

Strolls gotten worse season on season and its a shame since his dad bought the team. It's a shame considering he seemed like he could at least be an average midfield driver.

I think if I would change something I would put LEC and SAI closer together, PER lower, I also feel like the gap between ALO and HAM is too big because he got too high ratings at the start of the season when people refused to believe that Aston was the second best car.

I agree with Tommy's ratings except for Daniel's because he only drove 2 races so we don't really know how good he is compared with the other drivers and Yuki

having carlos sainz at 13 is criminal, i think he has been more consistent than lecrec. he is racing on his own with the clueless ferarri team

Alex Albon needs a payrise

i agree so much with the top 3. although lewis is my favorite, alonso is actually doing insane things this year and max, omg. what a talent! he already was so so good and he just keeps getting better. i just wish he had competition hahahah from someone

The difference between the George Russel positions and the Danny Rick positions is big. And Danny's position difference can beexplained, because n=2.

Mentioning Hulk being top 6 if it was qualifying ratings. You could start doing 3 ratings. Qualifying, Race and Overall or something along those lines

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I really like this format!

To Sargeant’s credit, it’s not like he’s Mazepin or even Mick who seemingly found a way to crash every other weekend. He’s a below average driver in a below average car, but at least he’s not costing Williams a ton of money in repairs

One BIG SUGGESTION for you is that when you show the rating boards on the left and right, PLEASE make them full screen and block your faces out for a few seconds. While watching on phone its so hard to see the rating number.

Matt really need this therapy sponsor, it’s ok my friend ❤

Sainz and Leclerc behind Perez is CRAZY

Matt.. listening to your "byeeeee"... you should take up singing and be good at that too! I hear potential and I know about these things

"Stroll is actually decent," funniest thing I've heard this week. Thanks Matt

"He can't be bargained with, he can't be reasoned with. He doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear, and he absolutely will not stop, EVER, until he wins." Max, basically

loved the format - I hope you will do the same at the end of the year

Every time Tommy says "a day off" I think he means "an off-day". :)

That 6.6 for Charles HURT Matt, I can see the pain in his EYES!!! Lmao, BetterHelp better be on stand by !

The Logan Sargeant P20 merchant memes came true, but only because we have (at least) 21 drivers this season

Lance's situation will forever be strange. Probably doesnt deserve to still be on the grid, doesnt show that he has the motivation to be a better driver and almost looks like the Alonso performances have deflated him a bit to be honest.

can you guys also add the standard deviation of the average grades? Checo would have a high one as he got a zero and high grades. I am curious about the other drivers deviations.

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Alonso has been great this season but a lot of his crazy high grades came when we were totally shocked that the AM was the 2nd fastest car. Had Lewis started the season the same way I'm not sure he'd have been receiving 10s like Alonso did simply because we expect stuff like that from him and Mercedes. But now we're more used to where each team is. Not saying the bias would've been that much, I'd still have Alonso in the top 3 with the top 3 all being comfortably ahead of anyone else. Also this is just my opinion.

Honestly would like to see Albon staying with Williams and bringing them into being strong mid-field contenders

Put gasly ahead of sainz is disrespectful

Sainz is so underrated… he might not get the poles like Charles but everyone acts like he’s miles away from him every year.. last year being the exception but Sainz was ahead of Charles all year until recently, and beat Charles in the standings in 2021 coming in as the new driver..

Nice video guys, thank you for the upload I know that this ranking is an average of all races, so I'll just restrict my opinion to the qualitative ranking. I agree with most of the ranking, I just have the following remarks: 1) Carlos Sainz: It seems to me that this ranking is way too harsh for him, not least because it has been a year in which he has followed Leclerc well, being superior in some races and qualies. Even after the last DNF he is only 7 points behind Leclerc. I would put him below Leclerc but with a similar ranking to Russell (for instance the gap between Hamilton and Russell this year has been quite bigger than the one between Leclerc and Sainz) 2) Valteri Bottas: Given that he's driving a tractor with no pace and no reliability, not to mention terrible starts and bad pit stops, probably the worst car on the grid (alongside Haas), I think he is invisible but solid, scoring points in two races and placing P11 twice and P12 three times. Some h2h results against highly rated/hyped drivers in this ranking. Quali - Bottas 8-4 Zhou ; Bottas 6-6 Albon ; Bottas 7-5 Tsunoda Race - Bottas 8-4 Zhou ; Bottas 6-6 Albon ; Bottas 6-6 Tsunoda I would place him next to Hulkenberg, just below the Alpines. 3) Alex Albon: I'm going to be a little unpopular here. I think Williams this year is "only" the 4th worst car on the grid, with good potential for certain circuits, and remember that the benchmark here is Logan Sargeant, a rookie driver with 1 year of experience in F2. Don't get me wrong, Albon is a good driver and he is having a very good season proving that he deserves another chance in a competitive car, but I think you are putting some steroids on him. I would put him above Tsunoda, but more equivalent with Piastri (who I think should be ranked a little higher) 4) Daniel Riccardo: I think he should not be in this ranking yet, with only one interesting sprint race and a P13 and P16 ending.

Matt, putting Hulk below Stroll is funny I mean considering the car Stroll is performing really bad still love you Matt

Idk how to feel about Danny so far up with only 2 races, too early to judge imo but thats what happens when RB can't build up drivers anymore and have to relly on drivers who alredy have years of experience

I get that y’all’s order is based off the average of you race grades. But I haven’t graded them. This is how I would rank them overall this year. Max Alonso Lewis Norris Perez (still has been pretty good for as bad as he has been) Leclerc George Sainz Alex Ocon Gasly Piastri (only has half the points of Norris) Nico Stroll Bottas Zhou Yuki DaniRic (too early to really rank) Kmag Sargeant De vries

8:10 I think that looking on raw results Bottas is more impressive. 5 Best result outside of top 10: Bottas: 11,11,12,12,12 Zhou: 12,13,13,13,15 But considering the fact that It's Valtteri's 11th season already and Zhou's 2nd, Bottas should be doing better.

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Stroll would either benefit or bomb if his seat was up for grabs, I think that he would bomb, that could benefit Alonso as he's not having to cover for him and he may have a teammate who he could fight without worrying about beating.

Need to call out props for Tommy finally making Logie Sarge the world champion!

in an alternate universe imagining SLOWSTAPPEN in 20th, then what a season we would have between the absolute giants of the sport Lewis & Alonso,..

Two of the drivers in the top 3 are in their late 30s early 40s. Just shows how age is no barrier.

About wondering whether Albon should go back to RB if presented with the chance: absolutely! F1 is a sink or swim, king of the hill series. It should never be about just being the no1 in your team. It should be about beating everybody, so if you get the chance to be in one of the best cars, you should always take it. If you're good enough you will make it after all. It's not that hard to beat Latifi or Rookie- Sarge in a low-pressure team like Williams. It's the cutthroat environment at the top where you can find out if you got what it takes and if you're affraid to find out, then you don't have it.

How is perez higher than yuki and oscar

Did you do the ad in case if Charles watches the video? ☠️

pretty accurate in my opinion

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0:07 going into every single driver, quite an orgy. I call carlos

“Purely because he called me babe” 😂

How the hell is Russell 4th?

Magnussen should be beating Hulkenberg and I think he will be once the car develops. That said, in the races magnussen has been besting Hulkenberg (not looking too much at placement but more laptimes) so actually luck or lack thereof seems to be a factor in the results. Kmag also opted for running with Hulkenbergs setup seeing hos onelap speed but that turned out to be a poor choice as speed just bleeds out as the tires fade away in the race. Magnussen will bounce back no doubt.

Having Stroll ride such a promising car is such a shame. Someone like Hulk who hasn't seen a single podium in his life and this guy just wastes chance after chance to get it. Really really wish Hulk to get atleast one podium before he retires... 😢

I swear everytime they talk about Bottas and Zhou, they give Bottas the lower rating because they "expect more", but always gives Zhou they excuse of "the Alfa car is horrible".

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This is as close of a ranking i've ever seen, fair grading system hahahaha I like it. Im a Perez fan and agh, cant put him any lower and higher would be asking too much as well. Top 10, I'll take it :D

I agree that Sainz has made more errors than Leclerc, but I feel like we're pretending he wasn't ahead of Leclerc in the standings up until the last race despite being treated as the number 2 driver

Perez ahead of Leclerc?? Alright Matt 😂😂😂

Dutch sandwich season. verstappen - de vries

Are we ever going to question haas on why they always have a driver really under performing? Are they ever going to look and ask why is that?

It strikes me how some drivers were hyped like the next best thing since sliced bread when they began, but fell through like a soufflé when there. I blame the ban on testing, they have no way of getting comfortable before getting thrown into the pit of lava. A simulator just doesn’t cut it, she said. De Vries was ok, maybe not for F1 but he can drive alright. Sargeant was a golden boy. Bottas was once, long ago. The Hulk was untouchable in A1GP. Are those predictions really that much off the mark? Then something must be wrong with the learning curve. Max only did karts and one season in F3. But he came through, ignoring the accepted ladder of learning completely. That tells me the ladder is wrong.

Toms ratings makes much more sense

Alonso is probably the hardest to rate, he is racing with Stroll who i consider to be around Mazapin or Latifi levels Is that all that Aston is capable of? considering he was at a similar level as Ocon last year?

4:25 matts therapy was for Ferrari pain with is that glock?

what's the criteria you use for that precise decimal rating?

funny bit, logi bear in 18th and his team mate alex 6th, is logi bear gonna get the boot at the end of the season ???

Matt had Alonso 7 TENTHS ahead of Lewis. They are tied at best. Both killing their teammates and extracting the most but Lewis hasn’t spun his car and ruined his race so how’s he so far below

The longer the season continues, the more convinced I am that it would have been to Haas' advantage to keep Schumacher and get rid of Magnussen. Granted, I didn't expect Nico to do as well as he has, but Mick was actually outperforming Kevin fairly consistently after Canada last year. So assuming Kevin has basically reached the apex of his driving ability, then it makes little sense not to go with the driver who is matching him in performance but has the potential to grow. I also think it might have been good for Mick to have another veteran brain to pick in Nico. Maybe he could help give him some perspective that Magnussen hadn't. All of this is hindsight, I realize, but the decision to drop Mick for another veteran driver, especially one who was seemingly out of F1 for good, always baffled me. Haas needs to seriously consider dropping K-Mag next year. I think he's done about all he can to help the team.

This Sainz criticism is so silly. He’s only 7p off of Charles and delivers far more consistency on record. Is he the qualifying guru that Charles is? No. Can he deliver? Absolutely.

Bottas gets 5.3 in the washed tractor, for a guy that has the phrase "Valteri it's James" keeping him up at night it really doesnt say much for Lulu's skill level

No way this man compared Logan to piastri 😂😂😂

I went straight to Charles.