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imagine mave concert and suddenly the electricity goes out 💀

I don't think that they can replace the connection between real kpop idols and fans. People can't connect emotionally if the people aren't real. Or at least it will be harder. Part of why people appreciate and cheer for kpop groups is because we know how hard they work to bring us great performances and music. If they're not real we'll just be cheering for the animators.

Honestly I really hate when people say that Mave is the first Ai group even though in the past we had a lot of different & unique virtual idols

I don't care they are real or not but this song slap so hard so catchy and enjoyable

Like I don't see why people hate MAVE so much: there are real people behind these girls working hard to succeed, zero chance of the AI members being depressed by the toxicity of the K-pop fans community, ...

I think we are going to have a mix of virtual and real kpop in the future. And honestly I'm ready to have both.

There are actual human girls behind this group, they do the vocals and dance practices. I do heavy support Mave tho because so many K-pop trainees are super talented but never get picked because they aren’t attractive enough or can’t dance good enough. But with AI groups their talent doesn’t go to waste and they get the career they wanted

I think the out of sync dance was on purpose, since that might add a realism feel to it, that's why the dance is so good

I honestly love the concept, the MV and the song of MAVE and I don't understand why people are so scared by them 🤣 when the cameras were created it was said that it was the end of painters but today they still exist when digital music appeared it was said that it would be the end of real musicians and it was not like that the autotune appeared and it was said "it's the end for true singers" but it didn't happen either Drawing tablets were created and it was also said that traditional art would cease to exist but today there are artists who handle both traditional and digital, Hatsune Miku was born, the first Japanese virtual idol (even her voice is artificial), she became world famous and gave concerts in several countries. . . but the real idols continued to exist to this day, The first Vtuber Kizuna Ai appeared and after her many others and it was said that it would be the end of youtubers/streamers but oh surprise! That didn't happen either, so why would MAVE be any different? 🤷🏻‍♂ of course MAVE is just the beginning and more groups will come with the same concept but that does not mean that it will be the end of idols irl

The music is FIRE, and also mv is FIRE too, BUT i think if it was with real people idols, this would be SO MORE POPULAR 💗 ( i hope one day we can see their real faces)

This reminds me of a webtoon called Beyond Virtual where debuting a group consisting of real people has become a financial risk, because all companies churn out are virtual bands.

I have 3 issues with MAVE: 1. Company greed is just going to skyrocket with concepts like this. The animators and mocap actors get paid off once, while the company gets to keep 100% of the profit. No costs like training, feeding, housing, etc. With a model like this why even hire real idols? 2. Toxic beauty standards will never be dismantled. There's a reason all the girls of MAVE are animated to perfection. With humans, it's expected to have flaws. But with AI you can make them into whatever you want. In a world where people struggle with unrealistic beauty standard, shouldn't we be promoting real people not unattainable beauty? With MAVE we're literally saying humans aren't good enough. 3. Encouraging unhealthy parasocial relationships. Already in the idol world, toxic fans and stanning is a troubling part of the culture. People ship, bully and obsess over idols, and the only way to attempt to stop them is to remind them of the humanity of these idols. But instead of stopping this dehumanising culture, we're pandering to it by creating non-human characters for people to continue their toxicity with. What's to stop these crazy fans from being even more disgusting and toxic, especially since now they can give the excuse that these idols aren't real people. We should be promoting healthy change not adding fuel to fire.

MAVE: is a new hybrid that no one expected right from the very beginning. I agree with what you have to say about them. They’ve certainly surpassed boundaries.

People be upset in the comments but the whole point isnt about what group came first its the fact that its possible ai groups will become normalized in the kpop industry in the future meaning even less chances for real people who have spent years training to be able to debut. An ai is also a symbol of perfection something no idol can ever be its setting the kpop community up for increased unrealistic ideologies of what beauty and talent is (more then even how it is right now) and thats why its a dangerous thing. People will idolize them just like how they idolize real idols. Everyone in the comments so far who have been defending mave and other ai idols like the ones from superkind are literally proving the point. I support the girls who voice them but all im saying is in the end theres more cons then pros a lot more then what i mentioned

I think that the virtual idols or( AI "Artificial Idols") will be more popular but not really gonna replace the real idols. They will just gonna give something different to the viewers eyes. I really love MAVE so much. I hope that the persons behind those 3D models are happy with their debut.

I have no problem with virtual group / popstars but I have to admit I'm disappointed with the lack of creativity around the aesthetic and their designs. For example, Miku was created with a unique design who is recognizable by anyone, same with apoki (even tho she is an actual singer) her design is actually a cool concept. For KDA, RIOT thinks about their designs before the music obv because it needs to be sold as cosmetics for the game. But here, I think MAVE just look kinda random and the concept is not push too far, which is ironic because you can do pretty much anything with 3D but you still choose to make them look like actual kpop artists who can do the same and wear the same kind of clothes, etc. I also think the rigging and animations of their faces is quite "poor", no much movement and expressions for singers.. giving an uncanny valley vibes but that's an opinion. The animation on the dancing is killling it tho, like it's so realistic and good even tho I noticed some arms and hair clipping but nobody's perfect lol. Most of the times, dances in animation are weird because it's super difficult to imitate but i'm very impressed here. This is also why I think the faces look weird, no movement compare to the rest of the body. Anyway could be better in the future if they push the concept a bit more ! (also big support to the actual singers and 3d artists behind that project

The clothing, hair and body physics are insane. I was wondering if maybe they filmed one person, used postproduction to make it look like an animations, so like filters over a real person to make it look this realistic. It's kind of scary, honestly.

I stan mostly Txt and Skz and whenever I listen to their music, or hear them preform live, I can hear their personalities through their music. I also connect with music through lyrics and relatable stuff, but an AI doesn't have a personality and cant relate to that stuff. The connection I have with kpop idols are bigger than you can imagine and they've helped me with so much stuff. I honestly think we have progressed as much as we can and now, were going downhill.

It is going to be a mixture of both. Yeah they will sell albums but they cant do a world tour. That would cost more to have the screens to display them all around. As you just said they were glitching on the MV after editing...can you imagine on stage during a tour? So Real Idols will still be around to tour and everything while the AI ones will just do MV's and album sells.

I don't know how it is in other countries, but in South Korea, the relationship between an idol and a fan is the most important, as New Jeans' Ditto/OMG series showed well. And the thing that best shows the relationship between this idol and the fan is '덕질dukjil', which can generally be translated into English as fangirling/fanboying, but I don't think this is an accurate translation. "Deokjil" is just can not be don't on stage, but also the idol's airport fashion, social media live, small mistakes, mini fan meeting behind the stage, etc. I have a feeling that this virtual Idol could work artificially in that kind of really idol-like way. Just like a virtual KZfaqr channels. However, I think that this will be possible only in the generation that experiences virtual idols as if they were no different from regular idols, that is, among the generations who experience idols for the first time in their lives, those who have experienced virtual idols and idols without distinction.

Virtual artists will never replace real ones. It just won't happen. theres no reason to hate a group like this for that reason. If you dont like virtual artists then fine, thats just you. I really like this group and its CLEAR that a lot of time and effort was put into this group. singers, dancers, choreographers, stylists, writers, musicians, etc etc all still play a part in this group just like any other. theres been plenty of virtual artists so far and as we can see real groups still debut and release music without any signs of stopping. that argument just seems super weak.

there's still something about the dancing that feels unrealistic to me that I have a hard time putting my finger on... first of all I think it's that they just kind of feel weightless and secondly I think it's missing something in the movements, everything is either too smooth or it looks glitchy, none of the natural bounce that happens when a real dancer puts an "exclamation mark" on the end of a movement. a good example of both is when they drop to the ground just like in black mamba and whereas with the real members of aespa you see them really bounce and push into the floor as they go down, here in pandora they just kind of slide down and touch the ground without any sense of force or gravity. not really a criticism just something I think they'd need to keep working on if they were going to make it actually feel real, whereas now it's just like well it feels more real than any other example of this kind of thing I've seen so far and that's still impressive.

Mave is not the first AIgroup, i mean, look at aespa, kda etc, I don’t know why ppl are so mad at this group. Mave deserves all the love and support!❤ EDIT: I am sorry guys, i didn't take any information before commenting this!!!! I get it, it's not an AI group, if a person said that you not also have to say that this is not an AI group, i get it even if just ONE person said that.

Animated movies are not putting actors out of jobs and they're not replacing movies with real actors, why can't the music scene be the same? There's still a human voice behind it, still real dancers. You can argue there's no stylists for example, but trust me it's not the animators styling these avatars. I like the fact that there won't be any bullying towards the idols anymore.

I think the reason sometimes the members bug out during dance parts is because I think they’re motion tracked, maybe their motion tracking isn’t perfect yet and it makes them jittery

I would like to believe that real and virtual kpop will be there to coexist. Because most aspiring and even who's already an idol definitely wanted their efforts and artistry to be recognized along with their names. I'm talking about every trainee or idol's talent here (which just a part but a major one to complete an idol package). It's just depends whether who's wanted or comfortable to use their talents in front or behind the scenes. Also depends to the concept which requires specific decisions or acquisition of needed talents or efforts.

I really like their concept of AI, but I do hope that the future of kpop will not be only AI based groups and I hope it doesnt get more realistic than this because how it looks now makes it special in my opinion!!

I think these whole theories you mentioned are their way of 'marketing' their products(?) Yeah, what you have mentioned is terrifyingly fit so well. But, it's not like we netizens will prefer an A.I group over rl idols. It's just the way we appreciated the animators hard work, as you mentioned; it looked soooo good, not perfect but almost. It's really cool. By the way, this Pandora have a dance choreo from real human choreographers (and it's epic, even better). The fan even wishes Mave were real people, real idols to begin with, eventually. I mean like- all of these was like an animation movies vs Hollywood movies, it's the same thing right? Cmiiw. Thank you for your reaction, it's really good to know from other editor's perspective.🦋

The CGI is good enough I think. I just hope they credit and pay the real voices behind the scene. This can be a slippery slope with using people and their talents to voice CGI girls without proper credit, pay, etc. I sure hope the real people have some good contracts in place. Same goes for the dancers who perform in order for the company to get all of the motion tracking to create all of those performances, dance practices, and MVs.

Yeah I don’t think they’ll ever fully replace live idols especially since even animated dancing usually need motion capture to look super legit. And they won’t take over the live performances

Why replace? Why not coexist together? We watch animated series or movies and there is not so much drama. Anyway, thank you for this reaction, you're the best!

KPOP is not just about the songs and the dancing its about the emotional attachment fans have with their idols, the struggles through which idols become stronger, the bonding and friendship with the members, the interactions with fans, the collabs and talks with other idols, their humor which makes them quite like us, I like the music and I like the vibe but I dont want to see more of it in the future cause idk what will happen if the files get corrupted or connection is slow, will they just glitch out?? lol

as someone who’s a big fan of concept like this (that whole futuristic story world), I clearly love that group when I was first listening to PANDORA ! I believe in this way, they will have a life without drama, being able to live their life in privacy instead of having to deal with the toxicity of the K-pop industry and the toxic kpop fans. I also understand why people won’t like this, but yes people don’t send hate to them, knowing damn well there are real people who worked hard on this ! They did amazing. Besides the songs are bop (they got 2 songs for their debut) and like they said they’re re writing history. 👍 Thank you for your honest reaction on MAVE: ! (Sorry for any mistakes, English’s not my native language)

An aespa and Mave fan! I like this kind of concept of kpop so bad! I hope people/ world will not sleep on their concept and music. It is very extraordinary in a DOPE way!

Honest opinion : As someone who stan kpop since 2nd Gen of idols, nothing will replace of nothing. People just being afraid of nothing. There many "prototype" before Mave was form. There vocaloids Hatsune Miku from Japan and she literally have concerts with real people. Also Japan invented robot dance with idols. Korean just improvised what Japan was doing. Like whole "idol culture" also started in Japan, even before BTS and "So Taiji and Groups" birth. Still Japan idol culture still alive until now. Great things when virtual (or maybe next rll A.I robots) idols come to kpop. Like in the video I see, the animation, the CGI, everything was improve a lot. People learn from mistakes and made more advance technology and figure out new things. For me, this itself, is fascinating.

If you think about it from a company perspective, it's super convenient, they don't have to present real people to the world, meaning that don't have to deal with human issues (human things are that hard to control), like weight, skills, emotions, aging, etc. These Ai could last forever (more than the usual lifetime of a kpop star) and if they adapted to each generation they will be probably something big in the future. One thing that they need to work on is putting them into Korean shows and giving each of them a special personality, and by then people would be deeply attached to them (like anime characters and stuff) idk maybe reading way too much into this hehe

JSUT WATCHED AT AN HOUR AGO FRFR MAVE'S CG CHARACTERS ARE SO REAL!! im really glad that MAVE singers do not need to go through the toxicity that many k-pop groups face nowadays.. keep up the great work though!!

You should check out SuperKind! They are a mix virtual and life group. They currently consist of 5 Real life members and 2 Virtual members (eventually there will be 5). Their 1st comeback is coming soon!

I think a problem promoters of AI idols will have to face is the non-MV 'extra' content we fans usually get. Behind the scenes, game shows, reality TV style contests. Those things aren't the MV, but they do matter and help fans get to 'know' the stars/idols. Animating all that extra content is possible, but I don't think it would have the same effect.

4:58 I think the jitters are intentional with the lyrics they're singing dududududu

Eu realmente não me importo se são pessoas reais ou não, a qualidade da música é ótima, amo a coreografia, e tô muito ansiosa pra ver como vai ser essa dinâmica de um grupo virtual no kpop

I like the song cause it’s catchy, and the MV is interesting enough. Even though the dancing is smooth, I think you can tell that the facial expressions aren’t quite there yet, especially when they are just standing and singing. The idea of virtual idols is a negative to most people, and I get that.. but I wonder if this will give a second opportunity to idols who have talent but are outside the box or maybe have “too much baggage”- too old, too many unsuccessful debuts, maybe too much drama? That’s my hope anyway.

What I don't like about them, isn't that they're ‘‘copying aespa or K/DAs concept''. Tons of groups have the same group concepts in this industry. No, what I don't like about this virtual idols things is how life-less it feels, and because of that, we're missing that connection we normally get between fans and their groups. When idols do something impressive and we applaud them for their skills (like if they have great stage presence: eg an artistic choice with hand gestures while rapping, really captivating facial expressions, changing the way they sing the song during a performance so it sounds different) it's experiencing a feeling of pride for stanning that group. We won't have that here because when we applaud them we're not applauding MAVE for THEIR facial expressions, or THEIR dancing. The only thing we can be impressed by from a performance standpoint are their vocals and rap. Everything else is the credit of teams of animators and graphic designers. That's not music to me. That's not a performance. It's just technology.

The concept is pretty cool and all but it can no where compare to the connection with real idols performances shows bonding and just the joy of being a part of groups journey and many more

Mave is like if KDA and Aespa had a love child

The thing I like about MAVE: is that it gives the voices behind the idols privacy, if they so wish. These girls can live out their dreams of being singers without all of the drama that comes with it. And they can focus on their singing and rapping which will likely reflect in their future music, while real kpop groups also have to focus on dancing and puplic appearances and such. That said, I'm not sure if virtual idols will ever fully replace real idols. I feel like the optimal future is one where they co-exist. Idols who want privacy can exist virtually while those who don't mind can be physical.

It's funny how real idols get hate for ridiculous things, and on the other hand Mave gets hate just for being virtual and getting more attention than other virtual groups, people are envious of that and don't accept that Mave is really better and has better development of their virtuality than that of other groups

People are really pressed about an AI group. MAVE is from Metaverse Entertainment. The entertainment alone says it all. Other kpop companies will remain the same,this AI group isn't going to ruin anything. MAVE is not the first but they are best looking AIs i've ever seen to the point of almost real looking. People need to stop behaving childish about it and just focus on their favs. MAVE doesn't bother anyone. There are actual people behind this creation. Working people!! No one could've thought of this better than Metaverse entertainment. People can cry all they want. The level of toxicnessis getting out of hand.

Honestly this is a boon for real talent out there. Many times we see amazing talents go to waste just because they don't have korean beauty standards. With this singers and rappers can sing and rap and can save themselves from extreme diets and cosmetics surgery

Literally no one realizes that the flowing cuty under them in the Pandora MV is the same as the one in Alita:Battle Angel😱

Funfact: one of the member, Zena (long hair with full bangs) is a game character from Paragim :The Overprime.

I dont get why people are pressed. Are they insecure that their faves will die out & be replaced by artists like MAVE? Do they not consider the fact that such concepts & the tradional ones can coexist? And come on this song slaps so hard. And the effort put into the music video, the animation plus the voices & dancers behind the girls, they deserve all the appreciation.

I really don't understand why people hate mave, it's not like they are the first AI group, and they're honestly so talented cuz Pandora is an amazingly catchy song. They have such good vocals, and the company did their best to give us an amazing animation. And also think about the reasons why these people decided to anonymous and even though people still hate them. Sorry for writing long but I really had to say this. Just think, maybe the artists aren't good looking or maybe they can't stand cameras or so much hate that actual idols get

3:47 reminds me of the shot in fancy for Minas turn in the beginning of the song

They're not replacing anyone. Still waiting how you can become emotionally attached to them but whatever.

In my opinion, the virtual ai K-pop groups show us how we’ve advanced into the future, which I can really see in MAVE’s music video for their song, Pandora’s Box because its sorta taking something (an old concept) and showing how far we’ve come from that, showing that Box in the beginning almost made me feel like that was the real Pandora’s box but if it was in the future. We can also see the futuristic theme in the setting of the music video which seems to be a futuristic looking city. Also, K/DA uses a lot of futuristic concepts as well. BUT STILL, VIRTUAL K-POP GROUPS WILL NEVER REPLACE REAL IDOLS.

Jordan Orme have you seen their “live” performance I think it was on mnet or inkigayo, or music bank

I think people can form attachments to and appreciate the members if they feel they can connect to the talent behind them, such as K/DA. A lot of people are big fans of Soyeon AS Akali, if that makes sense.

MAVE is just that, an ALTERNATIVE entity into KPop that provides their fans a digital world in which they can stan, to be comforted and feel safe within the confinds of their own personal space (ie. their room at home). As we've seen in the past and obviously still today, many KPop fans love to attend fan meets and concerts in person because it's been that way since the beginning of music. I commented earlier about this when they debuted on another KZfaq channel. Just as an example, a fan of MAVE may be the introvert who's uncomfortable in public places, therefore, they interact using their VR headset (ie. Oculus), personal gaming rig, mobile device, etc. As for your global fans, well since we are currently in a tech-centric world dominated by digital devices and highspeed data, they too will have access to MAVE's digital content, anytime, anywhere. I understand metaverse is not the "popular thing" to the masses right now but in time, VR, AI/ML and new advances in this specific technology will have an even larger footprint in everything we do in life and business (it's already here). With that said, MAVE has certainly planted that "seed" in the heads of KPop fans because they've been a topic of discussion since their debut (hence your video review) and as a parent company, that's what you want. I understand KDA and BlackPink PUBG had done it "before" but nothing like MAVE, not even close. To be honest, I was blown away at my first watch of "Pandora" and on top of that, the song actually is pretty good and catchy. There are actual singers and choreographers behind the scene and they deserve A LOT of credit too for good reason! Last point, what would happen if AESPA's virtual members debuted their own song, MV and provided the same fan access just like MAVE??? Would they face the same scrutiny??? It's evolution people and is what we as humans have done since the dawn of time. Create, invent, adapt and destroy. We're capable of doing such amazing things but we can also be our own worst enemy! Loved this video Jordan and appreciate you taking the time to review MAVE - Pandora

This group has such potential. People who are not really into full AI. We could still see them some day. But we should not stop on this point and support them. Theses girls all put together speak 4 languages; Korean-English-Indonesian-French . Imagine how big they could become… Visual,Vocals,Talent !!! MAVE Fighting ❤

5:05 i believe its like that to match up with the lyrics which say "du-du-du-du-du-du"

11:35 correction. They will replace real voices too. Look at Vocaloids and what it did in the early 2000s. You type in a syllable and adjust the pitch like what’s already done with real singing. That with AI reconstruction text to speech? You have singers replaced. There’s even a website with a text box you can type in and select a famous person and it speaks it in their voice

Tbh AI kpop groups will be coming to trend but will it last tho it's another story. From all those survival shows people are watching and all those reality shows, it just proves that people still enjoy seeing the growth of talents and even drama which is unexpected and not so programmed like AI. It's definitely interesting to see what AI kpop could offer since Vtubers have been becoming a trend however it wouldn't be as exciting to watch or fanover like real person kpop groups because real people just have so much to offer emotionally

I love how Jodan's explanation on KPop MV not only about technical on editing video but also give us detail info about the story or meaning behind it. There's always something new that i learn from you. Thank you for your hard work, Jordan!

thats good that it seems life like and as to terms of sync, one of the basic things we do in animation! stagger the movements if everyone is doing the exact same thing to give that less than robotic feeling :']

I mean there are multiple examples of very famous and beloved virtual bands. Gorillaz has been going strong since 1998 and they keep getting bigger. Vocaloid is out there, KD/A already exists, and with Vtubers getting more and more popular, I really don’t see people rejecting virtual idols.

there's a lot of pros and cons that could be taken into consideration. such as the singers behind these ai dancing idols could enjoy their life without any negativity surrounding their personal life, but the fame that usually comes with it won't be enjoyed thoroughly. it also costs the company probably less than maintaining a real life idol and making of music videos, but they won't get to organize fans- idol events that had proven to bring much more money for the company. but all we can do now is wait and see how these will affect the company and fandom in the long run. i still wish all the best for the group and other groups aswell.

Why have we not gotten a Halazia reaction??? Tbh that should’ve been NEXT on your list considering how it was part of one of your polls and WON. We deserve that reaction! 😭 Edit: I get doing your newjeans video before the poll ended because of limited time, but because by the end of the poll Halazia won, and it was the other option, Halazia should’ve been the video you did right after that new jeans one. Don’t get me wrong, I love your channel but this is getting really frustrating.

Did you saw ‘canvas’ by 4minute 360VR content? I think is an interesting idea to continue developing. You are literally in the center of the music video.

I'd love to see more kpop groups do A.I concepts or digital concepts i like this idea i mean the talents behind virtual groups are still trained and looked after

another special group is Superkind! They have ais and humans in the same group, they only have one song at the moment but their song watch out and the music video is amazing

6:18 it's real people with animated faces mapped on :)

there's no reason anyone needs to replace anyone. If people want to make 3d animated groups then they can all while still doing existing GG's. Humans just hate change or the unfamiliar. Brains have to jump to the worst conclusion rather than co-existence. I love Mave and the song. I love watching their "live" stages too and the girls + dancers behind these are amazing. Honest I think it's the safest option too because people get FAR TO INVESTED in real life idols. following every moment of their life, stalking them. The harm thats come to some idols. Even saying they are responsible for improving their lives and working through their issues when an idol does NONE of that. They just do their job. No one knows how they get paid and it's all assumptions if you do. Animated group or not i hope one day that obsessive bond is severed. The "I love him/her" on more than just as an artist level is casted out. Mave prevents people from trying to search into their history, their background, invading their private lives and feeling like they can "claim" or own these people. No pressure to be anything other than themselves. They can go on about their lives without it being controlled by their fans. . Idols working hard to produce good music should be enough. Appreciate them as artist. You don't know idols and idols don't know you. Leave it at that. These people are ALWAYS putting on a show as far as you know. from their Lives to their social media accounts. Any and every interaction with the public is done for their image. for their job. for their work. You only know what they CHOOSE to tell you. you have no idea who any idol is truly unless you know them on a personal level. I support the music. A good artist, animated or not is a good artist. No one is hurting anyone by being different than what the kpop industry is used to. I hope they keep putting out amazing music.

Rn in year 5/grade 5 I’m learning abt ancient greece and we also talked abt Pandora’s box so tday I’m feeling like telling my teacher abt the song 🤦‍♀️

Reasons why some of the idols are slightly late is to capture how it is in reality. They know they’ll make mistakes and that’s honestly human!

I still want my REAL K-Pop idol to follow and connect with, I still want my REAL K-Pop idols to watch vareity content with, and I still want my REAL K-Pop idols to watch at concerts and in-person. For me, virtual will never replace the real thing.

in my personal opinion this is just like the streamer vs vtuber thing but in kpop there is real people behind mave, they dance (i don't know if it's the same people who do the dancing) and sing for their mv/dance practice/performance, someone will animate and change their face out with the 3d model which is why their move feels natural in some video people kept thinking that virtual anything will replace everything but they need to understand, there's always a room for both, both attract different audience and tbf i really like the idea of having a virtual kpop idol (btw can we stop calling them ai group they're not an artificial intelligence, they're just a 3d model)

I really don’t want virtual idols…we can’t talk to them or anything!Please no…😢

I'm a little bit scared of this video and possible future without real people doing all the staff. Anyway, the connection between idols and fans is truly important, that's why there won't be only AI groups in the future due to my opinion

MAVE: isn’t killing k-pop, the members are real humans but, the girl’s avatars are digital. Virtual. The voices are real, the choreography is made by real humans, everything except for their videos and avatars are real.

the cost and time of production was probably so expensive and long that they arent even updating us rn, i want a comeback so badd

lol i've been listening to this for months on spotify and I learned all of this and my mind was so blown..... LOVE YOUR REACTIONS!! ♡ ♡ ♡

I honestly find it kinda funny how people are arguing in the comments. I think it's important to note that those are real people behind the avatars, including the dance. The girls who sing for MAVE are the same ones who dance because tracking is used (like itzy's not shy english/zepeto mv, I'm not really sure what the correct wording is here), so it's not like their training went to waste or their company didn't give them any training. Anyway I'm really excited to see what MAVE has in store and I think they're gonna do well in this industry, especially as they can't have people commenting on their looks etc. like real idols.

I feel like part of the reason MAVE isn't being received well is solely because they promote themselves as an AI idol group.. right in the midst of AI being a very controversial topic in media and art, and since people already have a bad view of AI and an idol group using that technology with the overused futuristic lore-based girl crush concept it won't be taken that easily. Also mind you the models they used for MAVE appear realistic as opposed to K/DA or Vocaloids who actually bring character design into their animation. Pandora is a bop, there's no doubt about that, but when you're supposedly a virtual group and give off an image that you're replacing real life idols, just as when AI is currently being harmful to so many artists and creative workers, it really wouldn't look good for them.

How are they gonna promote? How are they gonna come to music show? Or maybe fan sign event, music awards, world tour, etc? I'm curious on how are they gonna tackle the boundary between the reality and the AI world. How are they gonna interact with the fans? Surely a kpop idol won't just answer everything like a auto reply machine like that on the phone call 🤔

Your facts are right. In the future, they can definitely replace a lot of groups. It is so much easier to create them. As well as the connection between the "idols" and the fan base. But the future is now AND I'm not a fan of all of this. Like, yeah the music slaps and it's crazy good, like K/DA showed us before. But I think, that this is something no one should strive for. Trough the digitalization we push the boundaries between real an digital almost away. We forget what makes us human and some of us don't care at all what's in a moral way right or wrong. In my opinion they can never replace what other groups created. We went trough all their up's and down's, the good and bad times, wich created an unbelievable strength, love and loyalty.❤️

Can you react to XG’s shooting star

I hope they post the making of the MV where the person behind them is reveal cuz their vocals is not a joke

Atleast they don't have to be insecure if they recieve hate nor go to strict diets

I really like how you put so much effort in researching, analyzing and spitting facts and your opinions about the details. I learn so much from your videos. Thanks Please react to XG a global group with all Japanese members . I would love to know how you interpret their video as . Their video might not have much video affects to talk about , but still it would be great to know your thoughts.

MAVE is the best version of a virtual group yet. BUT the animators seriously need to work on the lip movements because they're not convincing at all, especially compared to how good the dancing is...

I don't think AI will ever replace real humans. The mv and song is amazing but the AI is creepy to me. But also it's difficult to have a relationship with an AI. I think the concept is cool and stuff, but I prefer humans over Ai. Also, a connection with real people performing is so much more meaningful then virtual idols. Personally, I find the AI unatural.

The stroy of mave is that 4 girls AKA MAVE come from a future and another world that I don’t remember the name to crashed in earth because idk and, they were all separated. Marty (the girl with buns) landing in Indonesia (forgot the town thing) Zena (the girl with a ponytail) landed in Paris France Sui (the girl with a part of her hair back) in jeju South Korea And Tyra (the girl with pigtails) in California The US. And they all mastered the language of the place their in. I don’t remember the main goal of them but I remember something about seeking emotional freedoms or something. Also, they all landed with a certain emotion. Marty: joy Zena: anger Sui: sadness Tyra: exitment

I really like this concept while I still want real kpop group around as a 'must. I feel like this really gives a golden opportunity to those with social anxiety and troubles performing real like me because I really really have a concerning stage fright.

Didnt expect Jordan to react to Mave but here we are

I absolutely love everything about the song and MV. Even my boyfriend who hates pop music said this is actually really good. I don’t care about haters lol y’all can go cry in a corner.

Everytime I come across a post/comments about MAVE, stuff they talk about on em sometimes literally just reminds me of a webtoon I've read which is "BEYOND VIRTUAL" wherein a famous Virtual Group exists on that webtoon, and the people there, well just some, can also interact with them thru VR on their devices... while idol trainees there struggle to debut, that virtual group continues to gain fame, and their company/agency might even plan on making more groups like them and they recruit/choose people that they find kinda suitable as a model for the visuals of the virtual idols that they'd like to create... it's been a while since I've started reading that, and haven't really been able to continue on reading latest chapters of it. Anywaysss, I look forward to MAVE's cb's but I'd still prefer real life idols&groups...I do find it cool how virtual groups are emerging, but I just hope these types of groups won't get to overcome the real-life ones. Sure they can create these awesome looking virtual idols and concepts but having the real-life idols and groups still gonna hit different.

8:33 - 8:40 love this scene...cool af. not simp or stan over 3d animation/AI but im appreciated their voice singer though..

YOU SHOULD REACT TO XG SHOOTING STAR THEIR MV’S A TOP NOTCH THAT FIT WITH THE SONG VIBE❤❤❤❤✨