Bull Session Favorite episode? Easily "Coming of the Fuzors pt 2". Favorite toy? Either Transmetal Optimus or Transmetal Megatron. Though, the one I was most proud of was Silverbolt, just because he was hard as hell to find.

Coming of the Fuzors pt 2 was great. That's the one with the western showdown right? Out of those three, I think the only one I ever had was Silverbolt; but not the original one. I had the purple repaint from Transformers Universe

Bull Session Yeah. Part 1 ended with the western showdown, but part 2 kept it going throughout. As a huge fan of Optimus Primal, I lost my mind when he made his entrance back in and turned the whole battle around by himself. The problem with the original Silverbolt was that he was shortpacked, so he was much more rare. A very poor decision in my opinion, considering his popularity.

Yep that scene was pretty dope. And ugh yea, shortpacked Transformers were the worst... Sometimes if I found one that was known to be rare at Toys R Us and I couldn't afford it but I knew I'd have the money within a day or two, I would hide it somewhere else in the store where it wouldn't get found, like behind some baby stuff or whatever then come back for it later. Probably not the nicest thing to do in retrospect but I was mad about my TF collection at the time haha

Bull Session I did the exact same thing 😁

Haha yea, I read that. It was actually Terrorsaur's VA they got to voice Starscream as well, since his original VA from the 80s had passed away by that point.

@@BullSession Doug Parker also played Tidal Wave in Armada. Guy's got range.

Growing up I always said terrorsaur was starsscream but dpfanboys always argue its waspinator......in no way did a waspinator match up to starscream

@@46chambersoflife Well, I mean, Waspinator himself never really acted like a Starscream. He never had aspirations of leadership except in the occasional deluded fantasy. Terrorsaur was absolutely the more standard Starscream, though Megatron intimidated him out of the more overt attempts early on. It's just, Waspinator was possessed by the "ghost" of Starscream. Terrorsaur is the spiritual successor to Starscream, while Waspinator briefly *literally was* Starscream. Briefly. So, you were kinda both right?

@@Blazieth I remember when I was younger me and my friends use to debate who was who in beastwars,..way before we found out they were completely different characters altogether lol for me I thought Optimus prime-optimus primal Megatron-megatron Starscream-terrorsaur Jazz-rattrap Ironhide-dinobot Bumblebee-cheetor Scorpinox-scorpinox Ratchet-rhinox Etc.

Unless it’s beast wars

Me.

I know a person like me now

BEAST WAAAAAAARRRRRRRSSSS

Yell it way too loud for any non-fans

Me, I was in my mid-twenties Beastwars came out, at first I was a little skeptical about it but I loved the CG look so I gave it a chance and wind up loving it since I was also a fan and a collector of the original transformer line back in 84 and I used to collect the COMic books as well I went on to buying the entire beastwars toyline and still have it to this day and I’m 49 years old

"The rest... is silence."

haha yea I was the same way. I had probably single handedly worn down my local video store's copy of '86 Transformers The Movie from watching it so many times, and that moment rocked my tiny little world. One of my older friends had to explain to me that this wasn't *actually* Unicron, which honestly didn't dampen my excitment much :p

"You could not comprehend our floating head forms, so we shall address you in this floating head form."

I watched it as a little kid and loved it so much.

I liked Beast Wars as canon future of Transformers franchise series, glad that fucking Michael Bay left Transformers alone & hoping someone could make a Beast Wars movie it deserve. Not that Netflix transformers animated where Cheetor became time travel bullshit with Allspark in him god who wrote that shit..

I think you were just a bit thick

Funny to think the writers warmed up to him SO much, that they killed off Terrordactyl so that they could torture Waspinator more.

To be fair to Terrorsaur, he was a "Starscream" character who was overtaken by a better "Starscream" character (specifically, Tarantulas).

True, but he WAS seen as the most fleshed out of the Predacons. But yeah, he was already played out by the time he was killed off.

@@RetroRulzMyTown I don't know, I always found Terrorsaur to be the most superficial of all the preds. I feel like I didn't know anything about the guy while always being able to predict anything he'd do

The Royalty commands it! Burn Maximals!

Oh believe me, I had ton of Beast Wars stuff too (I'm also Canadian). You just know there was that one kid though who was confused as to why he couldn't find any Beasties toys.

I'm close enough to the border that I watched both Beast Wars and Beasties... which was uh... weird.

Haha! That's funny

I was one of those kids. I STILL have them all in a box. I somehow have all the characters

I remember it being called Beasties too. That means they had to record two theme songs! Also I remember Shadow Raiders here being called War Planets in the US

Hell yea he did

Upwind of yours, vermin!

I assume you nabbed it

agreed on all fronts!

Bull Session can't wait to see your review on season 2 and 3

agreed. I think the animation still holds well today

Yeah same goes for me also they even had similar cgi designs

❤

D: You're right! I'll definitely have to get some of that in for the Season 2 video

Yesss... you really must. (incidentally, I love that Megatron's last words, in EITHER series, was a big "NOOOOOOO")

I agree or should I say YEEEEEESSSS

Yea, Beast Wars is one of those ones that never seems to get old, despite the dated animation. This is probably... the 3rd or 4th time I've re-watched it since it came out on DVD. I think in that time though, I only rewatched Beast Machines once... struggling to remember many specific plot details from that show aside from the basic premise.

Yeah, I remember being so excited when Beast Machines came out because I thought it was going to be Beast Wars on Cybertron....and it was not. It changed waaaay too much. And I didn't buy that one, although I do remember a lot about the show. Did not like what they did with Megatron and Rattrap. I just randomly clicked on this vid, and I really enjoyed it. Good job. I laughed out loud at that part near the start with the pan over to the Star Wars poster lol.

Hey thanks! I'm actually a huge fan of yours and Preston's; been super into the asoiaf community for years. I have a bunch of Game of Thrones parody videos on this channel and would love some input if you ever had a chance to check em out.

:) Enjoy!

Predacons: Terrasour, waspinator, scorpinox, dinobot, tarantulas, Megatron, quick strike, rampage, inferno, black arachnia, dino clones and ravage. maximals: primal, rattrap, chetor, rhinox, silver bolt, tigertron, airazor, depth charge, dinobot, tigerhawk and black arachnia Predacons technically had one more bot on there side during the war but yeah they didn't outnumber them

The Predacons often had as many or more members of the Maximals. But the numbers of defects/deaths kept things fairly even, numbers-wise. Not to mention they maintained a higher number of larger bots capable of heavier firepower. Plus despite the Maximals catching up with Transmetals, the Preds always seemed to have more flyers.

Yeah i hope one day Hasbro has enough confidence to make a show that doesn’t have Optimus Prime as I’m kinda getting sick of him being the leader constantly. Robots in Disguise 2015 had no Megatron so I think a primeless show is still possible

It's up there for me for sure. Then there's also Gargoyles, ReBoot, X-Men, Batman... From what I understand most G1 people came around once they realized the show was actually really good.

I've met some in person at cons that still haven't. I'm actually that 90's kid that didn't care for X-men and Gargoyles came on a random channel at 5 am for me. So only vague memories of it. Reboot, Beasties, Batman and Freakazoid are what I think of when someone says good 90's cartoons.

Animated Mrgatron disapproves.

Considered making it "STARRIES: CLONIES", but figured simpler was better

I can see why you did, because as we all know, Star Wars: The Clone Wars is the WORST theatrically released Star Wars movie *ever.* BTW, that's probably the most hilarious thing you did, like... _ever._ I dig the build up to it. P.S. Will you do a full review of -ReBoot season 5- ReBoot: The Guardian FAIL when the second half comes out?

I agree with Ben, I'd like to see you cover more Guardian Code when the second half of the first (and most likely last) season comes out. Also, I'd love to see you tackle Reboot: Paradigms Lost, which was a comic (now rendered non-canon) that acted as the finale to season 4.

Yep, definitely planning on covering the second half of the Guardian Code when it comes out.

Paradigm's Lost... we'll see. I read that once, but wasn't it a fan creation?

Mine too :D

haha! That's funny. I would have probably thought the same if I hadn't had a friend who explained it to me.

I have a deep dark fear that they won't bring the VAs back and butcher the acting.

Meh for that, but man, am I actually waiting for them to return in the sequel to Bumblebee.

Thank you! Yea, it really is a bummer the series ended so abruptly... gotta sell those new toys, amirite?

Agreed.

Hard agree Beast Wars holds up real well

Dialogue and comedy? Yes, and the one blessing the Beast era had was *no annoying humans to rescue.*

@@GeteMachine God, yes. That's the same reason I can't stand Animated. Fucking humans, man

Good thing I’m not the only person who thinks that.

It held up better than I thought it would, yea. Somewhat nervous about Beast Machines >.>

BM was just not at the same level of quality of BW....

From what I remember, the highlight was the new animation style

Indeed, and I would say some of the vehicons characters were interesting. Plus this megatron was a bit more threatening and his fight in the end with Optimus was worth it.

Beast machines is so monotonous to watch tbh. It just doesn't get to the point and it's SO serious.

Yea, they really did. Now that ReBoot season 3 is finished, next up it's back to Beast Wars for season 2

Bull Session yeeeeah

Thank you! It's climbing, slowly but surely

Those figures are freaking sexy. Yessss...

Yes indeed! We had it really good in the 90s...

I saw a kid from my high school buying it at toys r us.

I've heard TF Prime mentioned as being top notch before, but I've never seen it. I think the Bayformers had soured me a bit on Transformers at that point in my life... Would definitely love to check Prime out at some point. I've also heard Animated was quite good. And yea those Masterpiece figures definitely put me in a toy-buying mood... Thanks for the support!

Here here! Mainframe did some really great work early on. And awesome that they were Canadian, too!

Bull Session I couldn't have put it better myself!

Yea, this whole retrospective is definitely a big nostalgia trip. I've really been enjoying it

That *is* awesome!

As is this video, 'Starries' brilliant :D

Haha! Thank you. That was actually a joke a friend of mine and I would make all the time as kids when we first found out the reason why the show was called "Beasties" here

When I first found out about the show my friend's mam called it Beasties. I didn't like it. We watched Robot Wars straight after, stuck with a theme.

Kongo Bongo's hero!

YEA! I remember that series too "Heyyyo here he comes Banana Slama.... "

Hoooo.... HA!

I remember that show, and watched it as a kid. I don't think I could watch it again as an adult, though. Even what little I *remember* makes me cringe quite a bit.

Indeed; I watched through the first 5 mins or so of the pilot when I was making this video and it was... interesting.

Yea... Airazor really got the short end of the stick out of the season one cast. I'll be going over her and Tigatron a lot more in the season 3 video. Thanks for watching!

Thank you! Tarantulas is one of the best characters on the show for sure!

I'm Canadian and I swear I only ever saw it as Beast Wars never heard anyone call it or remember it as Beasties.

@@deadwinterknight1981 i remember it as beasties lol but remember buying toys with my dad seeing them as beastwars

Funnily enough, the Predacon ship wasn't supposed to be named the Darksyde; it was just a misnomer from Terrorsaur saying "Welcome to the dark side!" to Cheetor in the ep "Equal Measures."

That's the plan! After ReBoot season 3, I'll likely be hopping back to Beast Wars season 3, etc. Eventually I'll get to Beast Machines as well, and I've been toying with the idea of doing Transformers Animated and Transformers Prime in the future.

Aw man, Beast Wars and Prime have got to be some of the best iterations in my book! :D

Agreed 100%. Beast Wars is a really great example of the phrase "art from adversity"; it was truly something special. Thanks for watching :)

Yea Rattrap is pretty awesome. I remember him always being my fav Maximal when I was a kid, but on this watch through I found myself gravitating towards Rhinox. Also could be that I've still got Season 2 and 3 to go. And yes, what Beast Machines did to *both* of those characters was rather unfortunate...

Dinobot was pretty rad. I'll definitely be talking a lot more about him in the next Beast Wars video.

Oh, I definitely will get into that stuff. Fantastic television writing in general, let alone for a kids' show. It'll be covering that stuff in another video like this for Beast Wars season 2 though; I doubt I'd be making seperate videos for each character. Who knows though!

My personal favourites are a tie between Rattrap and Optimus Primal, the former for most of the reasons stated, and the latter for being a pretty good follow up for his big red predecessors (Optimus and Rodimus Prime). Primal is unique in that he is a competent commander, but he sometimes makes stupid decisions (I.E. getting himself hit by the cyberbee in "Gorilla Warfare"), goes into enemy fire by himself, and often gets talked down to by his colleagues. In short, he's a worthy successor not because he's an incorruptible paragon, but because he's vulnerable and more... *human.* In fact, you could make the case for this being intentional, as in the 2nd season, he's more wiser, and by the 3rd, when he goes "Optimal" to save the universe, he's finally become something like Optimus Prime. Too bad Beast Machines did away with *ALL OF THIS DEVELOPMENT* and derailed him into a mad, raving anti-tech/pro-organic fanatic! Seriously, what is Beast Machines' obsession with derailing characters we loved? Oh, wait... I Know...

I think what Beast Machines did to Rattrap was pretty interesting. If you think about it, him being as impatient and cowardly as he tends to be in Machines makes a lot of sense. He's a logical bot, focused on facts, and getting results. He's got a trick up his sleeve for every occasion, showing on more than one occasion in Wars to basically be a Maximal James Bond/Ethan Hunt/insert your superspy of choice here. He's even quoted on one occasion as stating that "I feel naked without my gun..." In comes Beast Machines. He's trapped in rat form. He can't transform. That's making him edgy; he'd been shown previously to be rather uncomfortable with the idea of being TRAPPED in his Beast Form, even if he does come to be more appreciative of it later in the episode. But then Optimus comes out with some spiritual nonsense about how to transform in the new Technorganic forms. No Command Codes, no quick and easy "press button, get results". He's not a spiritual or patient bot, so he has trouble with it. He gets desperate, as with the rest of the team figuring it out quickly, and kicking ass, he wants to get his transformation on and help! Then it happens. He figures out how to transform. ...Where's his weapon? He's unarmed! The superspy marksman who hates being unarmed *has no weapons*. It's no wonder he's so miserable. But he can use his tail inferface to hack into just about anything, and he grows into that role, actually growing into the role that his old best friend Rhinox used to fill back on Earth. He even eventually finding a bot to develop a relationship with when Botanica gets introduced.

Thanks! Looking forward to watching it :D

hah! Really? That's hilarious

Let's just say there are some plans laid out... Thanks for watching!

haha! Indeed. There's a reason this article exists: tfwiki.net/wiki/Ruined_FOREVER