MaxPax's INCREDIBLE Protoss micro! StarCraft 2 (new patch)

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8 ай бұрын

StarCraft 2 Tournament 2023 World Team League Showmatch - MaxPax stands against Solar in this incredibly dynamic Zerg vs Protoss series on the new balance patch!
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*New Oracle - The only real change to the Oracle was Stasis Ward vision buff (from 4 to 7), but that does end up playing a major factor in this series so I don't feel it's too clickbaity to slap on the title please don't hate me.
StarCraft 2 Legacy of the Void - World Team League Tournament 2023 - World vs KR Showmatch Series - Solar (Zerg) vs MaxPax (Protoss) - Best of 5
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@WinterStarcraft 8 ай бұрын

*New Oracle - The only real change to the Oracle was Stasis Ward vision buff (from 4 to 7), but that does end up playing a major factor in this series so I don't feel it's too clickbaity to slap on the title please don't hate Jimmy too much for it.

@Scidzcopter 8 ай бұрын

GOD DAMNIT JIMMY !

@enriquegarciacota3914 8 ай бұрын

It’s not “New”, it’s “New*”. The * represents the stasis ward. All is good

@robking12697 8 ай бұрын

Jimmy knows what's needed to pay the bills. If it's click bait, then so be it

@Alloran 8 ай бұрын

It's okay, Jimmy has kids to feed, I'll allow it.

@andrewklinger4469 8 ай бұрын

@winterstarcraft thank you for the continued daily content! I really appreciate your commentating and delivery. Plus your humor can be spot on too! These videos are making my runs on the treadmill go by so fast!

@mbran031 8 ай бұрын

Solar: *gets half his army stasised* also Solar: I'll fuckin do it again also Solar: I'll fuckin do it again

@friedNchips 8 ай бұрын

Cyclone&Tempest OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP. The terrans benefit tremendously in terms of resources. Thanks to MULE, I spend less resources on SCV and only have 1 type of mechanic shield-up, so there is a lot of resource benefit The scanning range is also very wide. Blizzard have to block the Battle Cruiser for 5 seconds from using the Yamato Cannon and Tactical Jump LIBERATOR & Ghost Sniper so OOOOOOPPPPPP. On the other hand, Protoss & Zerg need to invest more in ground and air defense upgrades respectively Even Zerg & Protoss defense towers cannot recover resources, but Terran has another resource benefit with the bunker recovery function In terms of resources, Protoss & Zerg are at a huge disadvantage overall The zerg is still garbage INFESTOR skill Deleted but Ghost skill always Nondeleted!!! WTH! Zerg units are expensive to upgrade and take a long time to complete The tech building is also expensive, but you have to invest 50 more minerals called drones there and pay 50 minerals again to produce the lost drone Are the zerg a cheap tribe? Fukshieeeeet. Zerg most expensive and inefficient tribe Zerg adds minerals and gas when transforming units No race is more expensive than the Zerg One last thing on my mind. Terran Cyclone & Battle Cruiser can auto-attack Protoss Phoenix & Carrier can auto-attack Zerg have no such units Blizzard needs to patch these issues quickly nonono, please delete the zerg SC2 only requires Terran and Protoss Blizzard Always just trash balance thank you so much!

@AdioShu 8 ай бұрын

At 11:01 the most impressive corrosive bile hit on an observer.

@primary2630 8 ай бұрын

that's insane, damn lol

@e7venjedi 8 ай бұрын

31:17 Never been so excited watching the mini-map waiting for the inevitable Zerg surround to get countered by the stasis mine field :D

@Kosss2001 8 ай бұрын

It's somewhat an indicator of the state of the game to have so many games with a Protoss where Winter is casting and the Protoss player appears to be losing the battle or barely trading is surprised by the GG and has to rewind and look elsewhere on the map. Protoss players seem to rely somewhat heavily on distraction and being able to hold just enough to get damage done elsewhere. Maxpax in particular is extremely good at that style of play. Good series!

@GotEmAll1337 8 ай бұрын

Seriously, Winter thank you for bringing us such quality and entertaining daily content. I legit look forward to every video at dinner time. I no longer really play the game because Zerg is just too weak for lower ranks like me (Diamond when I stopped), but it's always enjoyable to watch your casts. I don't understand how you don't have a bigger platform yet. You are definitely the best caster I've ever seen, to include all the professional ones at the actual tournaments. Keep it up man 🤙🏼

@KrimsonStorm 8 ай бұрын

45:55 For those of you who are curious, upstop and guide wheels keep rollercoasters on the track, along with the big road wheels. This is how trains can cycle through and not worry about falling off.

@pepper5158 8 ай бұрын

MaxPax's blink stalkers are an inspiration to Protoss everywhere.

@Kaboomnz 8 ай бұрын

Pretty sure it's the most used protoss unit in all matchups so..

@mihairo83 8 ай бұрын

First game: How many Corruptors left: zero. Well, that's not too many. Second game: How many Blink Stalkers lost: zero. Well, that's not too many. Great casting. Thank you. ❤

@chloesmith4065 8 ай бұрын

Gotta love it

@AnonJuggerbot 8 ай бұрын

SHoutout to that colossus in the last fight intercepting all the reinforcements. Literally won the game.

@luisg8873 8 ай бұрын

20+ kills fighting Aline!

@friedNchips 8 ай бұрын

@fofolacosa123 8 ай бұрын

That second game was something else, beautiful play by MaxPax

@augustsbautra 8 ай бұрын

Right? 2023, and it's only now pros are putting stasis to good use.

@mihairo83 8 ай бұрын

Protoss had to adapt. It's been almost a decade now. I don't know if it is a consequence of the Disruptor nerfs, but could be.

@johnnguyen6224 8 ай бұрын

Last game , the solo colosus was mvp with 24 kills cutting off reinforcement

@aman7196 8 ай бұрын

11:04 Getting the observer on accident.🤣 Edit: Removed typo

@shivamagarwal348 8 ай бұрын

damn, missed that

@SD-jf7nb 8 ай бұрын

A Darkworthy bile, even if MaxPax derped into it, it counts. 🙃

@fireworkspipecleaner 8 ай бұрын

in game 1 with that many archons i'm surprised MaxPax didn't get shield upgrades over armor especially with the new patch making the shield upgrade cheaper

@Alloran 8 ай бұрын

I'm really feeling the bane nerf in this set of matches. I don't think Maxpax holds those pushes if the banelings need an extra hit from the colossus or stalkers. The fights go from impossible to merely Hope You're Parting levels of doable for protoss. Maxpax multitasked Solar out of the game with chargelot backstabs and clean blink micro, it was impressive as hell. I do think Solar threw the game though, he could've easily droned to 80+ with a round of larva, instead of feeding forty lings to colossus/stalker/oracle, and swamped Maxpax. His upgrades were also poorly thought out if he wanted to use hydras, he should've had +2 range instead of melee, you can't just a move banes anymore, there has to be something behind it. Also, that creep spread was just plain bad. Scarlett would have had the entire right side of the map up to Maxpax's fifth base creeped, no more attention did he pay to that side of the map, and the backstabs that won the game would have been picked up. Felt like Solar was autopiloting pre patch zerg against a regular old GM on the ladder instead of the number 1 or 2 protoss in the world.

@Appletank8 8 ай бұрын

It is a good example of why “Just make more Banes lol” won’t work.

@Jackbrick101 8 ай бұрын

Great commentary Mr. Winter! Thanks for the games. Crazy game 2, awesome micro. Dominant.

@tyrellwreleck4226 8 ай бұрын

Statistically speaking, the games Solar lost are the games he roll banelings towards the probes.

@dylansevitt 8 ай бұрын

Game 1 he rolled banes and won, game 2 he didnt roll banes and lost 🤷‍♂️

@MadArtillery 8 ай бұрын

Such even players, great series! Definitetly loves those big stasis hits

@LurkerEternal 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the vids, winter! Awesome stuff

@Faux.Player 4 ай бұрын

What would make Protoss more playable? What if they got some sort of spell like the queen but instead of spawn larva it gave existing mineral patches more total minerals (regrowing used or close to depleted patches bringing them back slowly up to the original amount). It would favor late game builds, so probably slow down the game. They could have a stationary building that is a mix between a bunker and a medevac. It could protect a few units lowering there damage because they are being healed but they would regain health as fast as Zerg, so slowly (maybe 2x Zerg normal heal speed). This would work for mechanical and flying too. They could have a merge like archons for zealots that gives them more health, reflective damage shields (meaning if they are hit by projectiles it also damages the enemies a small amount), but instead of attacking they have a passive area of effect slowing and a small damage over time effect (like a poison, maybe stackable) just being close to enemies. For the sentry revamp the force field, make it damage somehow, maybe make it similar to the auto turret or the removed infested Terran, possibly let your own units enter the field making them like bunkers. Or make it be able to capture enemy units like stasis ward. I feel like Protoss should have a damage, shield energy, and or spell energy increase if they are within the power effect of pylons (maybe choose one and make it a temporary triggered ability/spell). Giving their energy based weapons and shields an additional +1 +0 +1 (up to total +4) (regular armor would be uninfected). Possibly give gateways a reactor like attachment or upgrade, that allows for you to create certain units like a normal gateways (only spawn at the gateway) + continue to allow the regular amount of warp ins.

@jeffcarter4500 8 ай бұрын

Riveting cast thanks so much for enjoying it with us!

@ascendingpotato9221 8 ай бұрын

Fantastic series, nice to see people other than clem, serral and dark and maru playing entertaining matches

@samcrespo2314 8 ай бұрын

Truly excellent series. Thank you for casting and for doing it so well. I’ll also say thank you because, even though you didn’t say it this series, you have successfully ruined my brain as I can’t stop thinking of 3 oracles as “threecles”🥴🥴🥴

@OniFeez 8 ай бұрын

MaxPax's stalker blink micro was like that OpenAI starcraft 'player.' Awesome to watch too, and I'm a zerg at heart.

@IlkanAli 8 ай бұрын

You bring so many of us happiness

@mumblety96 8 ай бұрын

great cast.

@UrielAngeli147 8 ай бұрын

A stupid question: why don't more Protoss go for Phoenix Range? Excellent games, even better commentary.

@SD-jf7nb 8 ай бұрын

Phoenix are more of a counter unit, though I'm not a P main, they are good at countering thing that don't shoot up or are buildings, esp. early tanks, Queens, etc. They do less well against ground AA as it masses in the midgame, fairly useless against ground in any number period, although they used to be considered a hard counter to early roach all-ins, if you could get them out in numbers fast enough. No idea how they do against clone, haven't seen, but I'm guessing more beats less. Either way, range upgrade is typically an afterthought, over getting them out early to maximise their energy based ability, and in numbers, before the enemy has adequate counters. Mass Phoenix are deadly in team games, one of the most feared rushes in the game, very hard to counter for Z, you are forced into getting burrow and making a buttload of spores. In 1v, range would be good for sniping Vipers, and even Broods and Overseers mid and lategame, and would serve to extend the Tempest's line of sight, with lower risk, although hallucinated Phoenix evelation are alternative options.

@hivetech4903 8 ай бұрын

Its a huge cost in the early-mid game that would stall their build, for something which doesn't really give much tactical advantage. In the late game there's no real need for Phoenix in general.

@Matt-ln7lb 8 ай бұрын

Because it requires a fleet beacon. It's effectively 400/300 and ~2 minutes just to get the upgrade, and while you might use that fleet beacon later in the game for carriers and tempests (And when you have those units, you don't need phoenix range), it's not really doing anything for you early. Unless Zerg really commits to the mutas it's not really worth it, and if Zerg is committing that hard to mutas, and they don't die to a push, the Protoss has probably already lost the game. You have to confirm that Zerg is going practically all in on mutas and have a solid phoenix count built up without taking too much damage in order to justify phoenix range, and such situations are exceedingly rare these days. Back in HoTS, we occasionally saw it in games of Muta/Corruptor vs Phoenix/Voidray on large maps where the Zerg could relatively safely go into mutas without dying to a push. It's also used in PvP when both players go for phoenixes.

@UrielAngeli147 8 ай бұрын

@@Matt-ln7lb I guess you're right, I've just seen a lot of these games where they invest in seven or twelve phoenixes just to lose them all when they have to dive too close to the army, when they could have preserved them and their value longer while setting up for a skytoss transition by cutting one or two phoenixes and going for the upgrade...

@00110011001100110100 8 ай бұрын

man i hope you cast some pvt from the next set either stats or nightmare. It really shows how the patch changed the match up

@romansolar8153 8 ай бұрын

beautiful play by MaxPax

@jayurenos 8 ай бұрын

A fully saturated gold base mines more than a fully saturated blue base. It's a small increase , about 5%

@junch3r 8 ай бұрын

10:05 ur so good winter! much love

@dhalren 8 ай бұрын

Wooo!!! I'm ready for this one! Now time to watch the new professional starcraft 2 commentated by the best announcer out there!

@ntm4 8 ай бұрын

It's actually almost 30 seconds quicker for the hydra upgrades. 7 seconds for speed and 21 seconds for range.

@Overgis4058 8 ай бұрын

Where do I get these replays?

@TimmyInTarky 8 ай бұрын

I really don't get why Protos doesn't make Shields armor, when it is basically free regenerative health, especially with Shield Batteries and in this case soooo heavy on archons.

@caiofleury3924 8 ай бұрын

What a game

@Tartopwar 8 ай бұрын

Trusted you, my day just got much better

@Imabirdhaww 8 ай бұрын

Paint you some happy little stars with that shirt bro!

@zerotsang4604 8 ай бұрын

New patch made sc2 fun again to watch

@Shamaroth 8 ай бұрын

guys im starting to think there may not be a jimmy?

@Aethelthryth1337 8 ай бұрын

My guy, I've been arguing with the wife. What color is your bottle?

@shivamagarwal348 8 ай бұрын

probably green, for the green screen effect?

@Aethelthryth1337 8 ай бұрын

@@shivamagarwal348 i argue it is transparent

@Rondon0905 8 ай бұрын

@@Aethelthryth1337 your wife is right as always

@Aethelthryth1337 8 ай бұрын

@@Rondon0905 She argues it's black gloss

@Rondon0905 8 ай бұрын

@@Aethelthryth1337 what? xD but winter's headphones are black and shiny and you see nothing like this. it surely is a green-transparent plastik bottle

@winterbird4069 8 ай бұрын

I have that same Bob Ross shirt.. 🧍

@lloydwilliamaquino2297 8 ай бұрын

I love your commentaries; not like the others who always spoil everything.

@xxArCxxWavExx 8 ай бұрын

I love watching StarCraft but i haven't played in a decade. Can someone tell me what those giant zerg looking shadows flying around are in game 1?

@clee89 8 ай бұрын

it's just part of the map

@postpwnmalone 8 ай бұрын

It's a water map, they're the shadows of big fish and shit

@cathulionetharn5139 8 ай бұрын

Thank You Om nom nom

@jennifer_dreamzzz 8 ай бұрын

💜

@dhelsel89 8 ай бұрын

I wish the last game would have been played out a bit longer.

@nickv9820 8 ай бұрын

>50 gas is just too much for Hydras If only there were a number between 50 and 25 that the cost could be set to /s

@farmer4525 8 ай бұрын

Hold on a minute, since when is solar not the nuke eater anymore?

@Gardstyle35 8 ай бұрын

the gold expo is so close why Zerg not expo there 1?

@carlossanson2518 8 ай бұрын

Nice shirt

@yazzzlet3549 8 ай бұрын

if making so many lings would be enough to win games then zerg would be too op, glad to see that that strategy was beaten

@Nobunaga1983 8 ай бұрын

Sad that the only way protoss can beat Zerg is early with blink stalkers

@Neront90 8 ай бұрын

Why solar make mass zerglings in first game but dont make adrenal glands? He has a huge bank and made 300+ zerglings before 15 minutes mark

@SD-jf7nb 8 ай бұрын

Esp. against a toss plays gateway units like maxpax.

@DSzaks 8 ай бұрын

yeah now 3 or 4 banelings can't wipe out your economy, its takes 4 or 5 now :P

@wilshireanasurimbor3068 8 ай бұрын

Awesome games, so fun to watch these top tier players when they are so close in skill. Also, what is with the horrible grey camera filter on Equilibrium? Everything is washed out looks terrible.

@Appletank8 8 ай бұрын

You see, it is a flashback, so everything is greyscale.

@mrkool9009 8 ай бұрын

FOR AIUR!!!!

@mikeb7111 8 ай бұрын

Void rays should be able to drop banes on broods as they fly over them. That wouldn't be too crazy i dont think

@GMAC240 8 ай бұрын

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@JStrach 8 ай бұрын

11/10 thumbnail click bait game

@tomshines5389 8 ай бұрын

Dont EVER show a toss loss again! I can't handle their unending bottom of totem opposite-of-pole-position placement in this tri-archy(?)

@natsafualbs971 8 ай бұрын

268th like

@MrLiNuX159 8 ай бұрын

I don't like watching Protoss vs Zerg games, because it is a pain to see the Zerg humiliate the Protoss 99% of the time. Let's hope that Microsoft manages to balance this imbalance in Sc2

@JacksonJoseph-Eugene 8 ай бұрын

Big companies don't care about dead IP's. I would not be surprised if they close the servers. Also it's Dark/Serral who humiliate Protoss, other zerg players are a fair fight lol

@clorkmagnus 8 ай бұрын

@@JacksonJoseph-EugeneMicrosoft revived aoe2 scheme lol. I don’t think sc2 is more dead than aoe2 several years ago.

@mohammad-aliminaie3766 8 ай бұрын

the game music is a little annoying

@friedNchips 8 ай бұрын

@JacksonJoseph-Eugene 8 ай бұрын

just saw game one. I know i am spoiled by Dark's games, but here solaar seems uninspired. no creativity. no show. meh

@aliasalbatross700 8 ай бұрын

Same here, just watched g1 as well, became a snoozefest due to solar lacking that killer instinct or at least scouting well enough to know how silly far ahead he was after the early midgame. Generally big on Solar but rooting for MaxPax for the rest of the series.

@clee89 8 ай бұрын

i don't think solar is really known for creative play