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Stray Kids' Bang Chan & Seungmin | Communication & Friendship Analysis

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Max Beaumont

Max Beaumont

Жыл бұрын

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@maxpbeaumont
@maxpbeaumont Жыл бұрын
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@devikajain7874
@devikajain7874 Жыл бұрын
Pls react to Skz members getting angry
@kiby9528
@kiby9528 Жыл бұрын
i’d love to see you react to hyunjin and felix’s 2 kids room! 💙🤍
@rememberguys148
@rememberguys148 Жыл бұрын
Their vlogs
@skz143iluvu
@skz143iluvu Жыл бұрын
more skz talker !!
@JingleHops
@JingleHops Жыл бұрын
@@kiby9528 I second this motion. Pretty please! 🙏
@lorenlane1319
@lorenlane1319 Жыл бұрын
You have to understand that the responsibility Chan was immediately given over them and took from the beginning has influenced the group dynamic a lot. It’s very interesting. Background is a 19 year old kid was put in charge of picking and training his own group, which itself is very very rare, especially in the big 4 companies. He had years of experience over all of them, and knew how hard being in the system could be better than anyone. 4 of them were still 16 at that time too, with a max of 3 years of experience so he has been a mentor towards them as a professional and a person for so long. It’s a reason why they trust him with everything and he struggles to lean on them. He’s taken on a lot to try to emotionally protect them. You won’t see them often in public where they’re not all in his line of sight, he literally stays to one end or steps back to watch them, and says he gets anxious when he can’t see all of them at once in public. Sounds dramatic but we’ve literally seen him force himself unguarded in an airport mobbing situation because he ordered his security to protect the boys instead of him. It’s intense, but that’s how Chan is. The boys have been pushing him to let go and help carry the burden, so we’ll have to see how it plays out as they all grow up. But somewhere inside of him, there’s still that 20 year old raising a bunch of teenagers that he hasn’t let go of yet.
@TiaTruly
@TiaTruly Жыл бұрын
yes, well said
@hihello-zh7qy
@hihello-zh7qy Жыл бұрын
Yeah I’ve followed kpop for a long time and I’ve never seen anything like it
@kpabo325
@kpabo325 Жыл бұрын
It really is fascinating how strongly he took on the role as leader and how he has taken such an immense interest in the lives of the boys. It's as if he would sacrifice everything for them, and it really is such a rare dynamic that I have not seen in any other group (k-pop or otherwise).
@queenj8886
@queenj8886 Жыл бұрын
🥲
@sister1976
@sister1976 Жыл бұрын
Well said! And on the same time Chan was so lonely before forming Stray Kids, that he has talked about how he might not be alive now, if it wasn't for them. That's some pretty powerful feelings that might partially explain his tendency towards over-protectiveness! And why he wants SO badly to protect them from the harmful things that can come from being in this industry. I'm in awe of his leadership, and of the emotional maturity of every member in this group! ❤
@elenymm
@elenymm Жыл бұрын
Chan didn't get defensive because he was upset with Seungmin. He just doesn't have a high opinion of himself for some reason so that prevents him from getting in on the joke. I think that's what Seungmin realized and then he matched his energy better. Something I find very interesting in them all is how well they respond to each other, often without words. More than the banter or anything else - that shows what a strong team they are. We as fans should understand that no one knows what's happening better than them, like you said. All our assumptions are just that and have their limits.
@queenj8886
@queenj8886 Жыл бұрын
🥲💔😯
@ilays2195
@ilays2195 Жыл бұрын
I feel like both Seungmin and Lee Know are the type to be strong minded, so when someone confides in them the way they give advice is really straight forward. Like in a way that they don’t understand why it wasn’t obvious to the other person. I feel like they’re more emotionally distant compared to members like Felix and Changbin, tending to be more logical compared to emotional. It’s not really a negative thing at all, it just means that they’re probably the type of people you need to snap you back to reality, instead of when you need gentler comfort.
@Akkarri
@Akkarri Жыл бұрын
And then there is Han. People don't even usually go for advice to that kind of ppl cause they will brutally get shot down by logic 😂 (I mean Han is the only T type personality in the group)
@4_4sya
@4_4sya Жыл бұрын
wow this actually so accurate
@a_lost_staysider
@a_lost_staysider Жыл бұрын
I don't think it was Chan not being able to connect with the jokes seungmin makes but it was one of those days he wanted to push the convo into a deeper one, but seungmin kept making jokes so he didnt respond. Chan is one of the members that love seungmin's humour and would purposely provoke him to get seungmin to give him a sarcastic deadpan response. He's constantly floating around seungmin tackling him into hugs while seungmin whines about it but yea I think Chan really wanted to talk to seungmin about something and it wasn't going that direction cuz seungmin didn't expect it. I find quite fascinating that almost every 2kids room that involved seungmin, the members would try to steer their convo into a deeper one because they either want to tell seungmin about how proud of him they are or how he's helped them through something or they just want to confide to him about how they're feeling
@chibib
@chibib Жыл бұрын
I noticed the last bit too. Except the one with Lee Know, the other guys want to make the convo serious but Seungmin tries his best to steer clear of it (Changbin succeeded I think). Tbh, I'm also like this, I help others and I'm pretty straightforward when the time is right, but I don't like or feel awkward receiving words of gratitude or whatever. I just wanna leave things as is and make no fuss. I guess this is why Seungmin quickly became my bias.
@maxpbeaumont
@maxpbeaumont Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I could definitely see that being the case too.
@yueliangmei12
@yueliangmei12 Жыл бұрын
This! Same thought. We know Chan is very fond of seungmin and he likes his humor a lot. Sometimes seungmin delivers jokes with straight face and also reacts to jokes with the same manner, the members mentioned that before. So if you don’t know Seungmin you probably might misunderstood him, but Chan knows that about seungmin. Chan just wants to get something serious out from seungmin coz he values his opinion since seungmin is a very rational person. That’s why Chan keeps asking why coz he wanna hear more from seungmin but seungmin didn’t want to be serious right off the bat hahha
@aprilzarychta1912
@aprilzarychta1912 Жыл бұрын
My read on these two is basically that Seungmin is Chan's opposite. He is confident in all the ways Chan isn't, and Chan is sensitive in all the ways that Seungmin seems insulated. It feels like that's what contributes to the self-doubt and self-criticism that Chan exhibits a lot. Seungmin is good at diffusing tensions with a joke or a shared experience, but Chan has a lot of sore spots because he's very hard on himself in a lot of ways.
@ellie7701
@ellie7701 Жыл бұрын
Great observation! What I see going on here is Abstract vs Concrete perspectives. Bang Chan is very focused on what *_could_* be, while Seungmin is more focused on what *_is_* . They've also got two similar outputs. Both of them are the type of person to feel good about themselves only after they made everyone else feel good. So you've got both of them fishing for the same question with no response. It's essentially "How can I help you feel better?" "No! Don't worry about me, how can _I_ help _you_ feel better?" "Nevermind how *_I_* feel, how do *_you_* feel?" "Well *_I'LL_* feel better after *YOU* feel better!" etc. haha
@maxpbeaumont
@maxpbeaumont Жыл бұрын
Haha well put!
@elenymm
@elenymm Жыл бұрын
This video got me going back to other Seungmin episodes of 2 kids room and I realized he often brings some unexpected sides out of the members. Hyunjin usually isn't very touchy and cuddly but is with him. Chan isn't usually open like this but is with him. Felix was so playful and animated in their episode, when he is usually more on the quiet, emotional side. I think that's what being honest brings to people around you.
@mgr9966
@mgr9966 Жыл бұрын
Sameee, I found them so interesting
@ugoclaire1198
@ugoclaire1198 6 күн бұрын
This makes sm sense
@solarya2684
@solarya2684 Жыл бұрын
I think Chan can be a bit hard to "read" if you don't know his story. He went through A LOT From being a trainee for idk, 7 years? Not knowing if he'd ever debut, watching his friends either leave or debut before him, leaving him alone. And he was so young And then he was given the opportunity to choose and train his own members, and he was only... 19 or 20? At this time? (correct me if I'm wrong). I think in an older 2kr, Hyunjin said something along the lines of "It's cruel, because it was like a kid leading other kids". He works insanely hard for them (being the main composer/lyricist along with Changbin and Han). He'd sacrifice everything for the kids and he's mentioned it several time, but stray kids saved his life, literally The weird thing about Chan is that, he's both really open and honest with us (through his lives he does every sunday) but also... You can still see the walls he's build up over the years There are few moments we can see Seungmin taking care of him (like, trying to feed Chan when he's cooking or doing something) and Chan LOVES to hug Seungmin ahahah I really admire Chan, everything about him And I wish he'd see himself through Stays eyes, because I know he struggles a lot with self esteem. But stays know, they know he's an incredibly talented and sweet guy who deserves all the love in this world. I wish there will be a day where he understands how amazing he is
@3RACHASUPREMACY
@3RACHASUPREMACY Жыл бұрын
This is perfect 🥺❤️ really well said!
@sister1976
@sister1976 Жыл бұрын
Well said ❤
@susannasternberg5474
@susannasternberg5474 11 ай бұрын
He once said he hates himself. There is some deep hurt. Like he was never good enough and even everybody is telling him now that he is exceptionally good he still can’t believe it. I so hope he can heal from this.
@DarkHarlequin
@DarkHarlequin 5 ай бұрын
@@susannasternberg5474 5 months later response: but I think that part is really tricky. We're really easy to influence when building our foundations (for relationships or our own personality) but whatever we build into this foundation will underlie EVERYTHING we build after. Just taking a snapshot of right now you'd wonder why a guy like Chan would ever hate himself/ not believe in himself. After all he's the leader of a world level successful music/idol group, he's one of the youngest super successful music producers in Korea, he's wealthy, he's beloved by his group, by fans around the world. Yet that just shows how powerful and unshakable the things we build into our foundation are. I know it from personal experiences that it takes compliments on compliments, success over success to make you feel good for the moment sometimes and only the tiniest hint of negative feedback can send you spiraling back to old doubt. And I think for Chan the years of being 'left' by others and the years of lonely responsibility are just a powerful foundation giving him his discipline and skills but also still hurting him. And I really hope he can find ways to love himself more over the time with SKZ 💕 Random long text rant but your comment just triggered smth 😄
@elenymm
@elenymm Жыл бұрын
When this episode came out, some people misread the comments at the beginning. It helped me realize just how smart and mature the boys are. People always say they want honesty, but many wouldn't be able to handle a friend like Seungmin. Having someone like that in your corner is such a blessing and opportunity to grow that people too serious about themselves can't experience. It's a sign of maturity that Chan accepts Seungmin as he is and shares things with him that he doesn't share with others. (Such an interesting statement of his. And he proves it by being the most open in this episode.) On the other hand, Seungmin is very strong-willed, but he doesn't bulldozer people with it. He does things his own way, but takes others into consideration. As you said, their relationship isn't smooth but it's good and beneficial for both of them.
@smad8254
@smad8254 Жыл бұрын
I think Chan being so closed off and not fully opened up to the kids is due to the fact that he was a trainee for the longest and during that time so many others entered his life and left leaving him behind and he became depressed and sad. He talked about this before and add on to that he lost a member early on their career, he even apologised for not keeping straykids 9 members. So I hope he would let the ither kids help him.
@daliaa.9705
@daliaa.9705 Жыл бұрын
yeah but now I think he really has no reason not to open up and I know he really does thankfully cause he ain’t gonna lose them anymore. The only time he doesn’t open up is when he doesn’t want them to worry about him.
@queenj8886
@queenj8886 Жыл бұрын
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@tapioooca5182
@tapioooca5182 Жыл бұрын
I have a different take about the Mukbang of Tears memory. As much as Chan makes them think what he needs is for them to be indifferent when he cries, I think deep down what he needs is for them to show they care. But just not in a pitying way. I also realized he wants the kids to treat him just like they do with each other, without the honorifics and "let's not bother him with our problems coz he already has so much responsibility" mindset. He likes when they open up to him like a friend. He had said he envies Changbin's position in the group, middle in age, so he's close to everyone. That's what he wants and probably why he sometimes feels lonely even among them. Now that I think about it, he literally wants them to realize this with these subtle comments. 😭 They already tease him a lot as a friend so that's good, now all they need to do is go to him about their worries without holding back and DROP THE HONORIFICS, at least the hyung line can do this lol. Minho already does, sometimes.
@traceym2062
@traceym2062 Жыл бұрын
I think Chris gets a bit fed up with being thanked for being a self sacrificing leader, and would like to be thought of as good friend. Seungmin is a good kid but he can be a bit tactless/insensitive at times. I think Chris would be less needy emotionally and physically if he was given a bit more informal comradery and people just being straight (but kind)talking with him.
@tapioooca5182
@tapioooca5182 Жыл бұрын
@@traceym2062 honestly I would be fed up with hearing the same compliments whenever my friends were asked to say something positive about me. Their go-to response is "responsible leader" like YES he is the best at that but he is definitely more than that too? Even as just a fan I can count more things. Some members are really good at observing others, I'm surprised they didn't realize this about Chan yet. That he wants them to treat him as a same age friend (as much as they can given the obligations in their culture). Of course these are all assumptions but ngl I'm quite confident that this is how he feels. 😂
@traceym2062
@traceym2062 Жыл бұрын
@@tapioooca5182 ditto, we are on the same page about this :)
@3RACHASUPREMACY
@3RACHASUPREMACY Жыл бұрын
Oh my god you hit this right on the head...😮
@Phoenix0801
@Phoenix0801 Жыл бұрын
I love this episode and you are exactly right. Bang Chan and seungmin have a different bond with each other than with others but it’s good for both of them. Chan loves hugging Seungmin and I feel like Seungmin is the indirect pillar that helps Chan stay focused and open up to others. Chan has been through a lot and I respect him so much. I hope that one day I can be just as amazing as he is 💕
@ic2811
@ic2811 Жыл бұрын
When you think of the pressure Bang Chan has been under its honestly amazing the dude hasn’t had a mental breakdown yet. I saw an interview where Hyunjin spoke about how Bang Chan at 20 had to take the leader role and single handedly push all 8 members to be good enough to debut. I know we all think its incredible that he was allowed to choose the memebers for Stray Kids, but what pressure that must have been for a 20 year old? He was younger than what I.N is now and stayed up until 5am most days and was back in the stuido at 10am… Han said it, I would have been dead.
@MellVer
@MellVer 11 ай бұрын
I’m sorry if I wrong. Bang Chan was probably depressed and had suicidal thoughts. I remember in one of Chan's Rooms, he said "if it weren't for Stray kids, maybe I wouldn't be here, maybe I wouldn't even exist on planet earth". It's hard to say if Bang Chan ever suffered from depression, but one thing is for sure, his 7 years as a trainee left a lot of darkness and wounds in his psyche. It can be seen that, although Bang Chan is very humble, he is actually very sensitive, he wants to hear affirmation about him and Stray kids.
@chronosaurus547
@chronosaurus547 Жыл бұрын
I agree with Seungmin's humor not hitting Chan the same way as others. His humor is something he says with a straight face that makes you think if he's actually serious about it. Hyunjin gets that not just because they've been roommates for so long but also because they're the same age. ( Afaik age plays a huge part in their culture) Even though Seungmin and Minho's humor are a bit alike, Chan gets Minho's easier since they're close in age and have more of a partner kind of relationship, whilst he sees Seungmin more like a little brother that he has to keep an 'older brother' image from.
@ALT1308_
@ALT1308_ Жыл бұрын
Nah, you can't just say that because Chan has said before they all play and joke around with other but not push the limits. We're fans and we shouldn't assume about what they do because a lot of fans act like they know them personally but they don't
@chronosaurus547
@chronosaurus547 Жыл бұрын
@@ALT1308_ this whole video is literally about assuming their relationships. I am not saying this as a matter of fact. You can play along and joke with people even if you don't get their humor fully. I'm not saying they're strangers to each other.
@crazycatchick4111
@crazycatchick4111 Жыл бұрын
Chan is the absolute hardest on himself out of all the members, not only does he have the weight of the world on his shoulders from being the leader (starting from when he was just a 19yr old kid himself), but also from a lack of healthy self-esteem/worth... he's always the first to point out/agree with his own 'faults', rather that's physical (his 'big' nose, his hair starting to thin a little from stress, his muscles not being 'defined enough', his weight, etc), mental (being 'too harsh' with the members during practice, being too 'sensitive', etc), or what have you...when he does his online fan interactions (formally vlives but now through KZfaq where he answers live questions from STAYs and reacts to requested music) he always gravitates to the negative questions and remakes ('Chan you've gained weight', 'Chan you have a big nose', 'Chan just kill yourself', etc) from trolls/antis rather than the more positive ones...the look on his face when someone told him to just kill himself, especially when he's already admitted somewhat to having previous suicidal ideation, was outright heartbreaking!! Seungmin may love to get in his *Chan's old* digs amongst others, but it never comes close to coming from a place of being intentionally hurtful/callous, it's just his 'lil brother' way of poking the members to show how much he cares...If I could wish for anything it would be for Chan to have as much love for himself as he has for all of the members and STAY🤗🫂🫰
@bianca5882
@bianca5882 Жыл бұрын
Hi max! I’d like to add this to the first conversation about bang Chan and weight loss. He has told us on livestream that he prefers the members telling him when he needs to loose weight because he cannot tell himself if he needs to or not. Unfortunately they go on very strict diets etc and they need to manage their weights well :/ I wish they could eat meals without having to constantly fit the idol image of being thin but unfortunately that’s not the case. Anyway, I guess seungmin just did as he has been told or something along those lines but it’s definitely a sensitive topic for Chan as he has been open about how he dislikes his appearance
@gigi-re5yg
@gigi-re5yg Жыл бұрын
I remember that in a chan's room that is a bit recent (it's on KZfaq I think) he said that he wants to gain weight because due to stress he lost weight and wants to go back to the gym.
@hichiihci
@hichiihci Жыл бұрын
he also said separately that he doesn't care about comments about gaining weight, but comments about losing weight put him under stress because he wants to have a "strong body
@fireflieer2422
@fireflieer2422 Жыл бұрын
@@gigi-re5ygoh man i hope he takes it easy even with the stressful schedule they must have
@bbokAriyuyu
@bbokAriyuyu Жыл бұрын
@@hichiihci yea I agree he has mentioned he wants to be ripped with a lot of muscles but some fans don’t like that but that’s what he prefers. He’s fine with the gaining weight comments because he wants to bulk up. But he loses muscle easily which is why he eats a lot. He’s mentioned he has a really high metabolism
@evebarretowski
@evebarretowski Жыл бұрын
and for those who follow idols, we know that this type of conversation is absolutely normal. It shouldn't, but it is.
@mm1ka
@mm1ka Жыл бұрын
when seungmin said chan looks scary in the morning, to me that part never sounded like seungmin was meaning to make a joke? haha maybe it's because i take things at face value myself but it really sounded like seungmin was opening up to chan in response to him opening up just before
@crimsontranquility
@crimsontranquility Жыл бұрын
I really like how you pause the video to comment in reply to Chan and then when you play, Seungmin says the exact same thing 😄😄
@dazlenlen
@dazlenlen Жыл бұрын
Now I'm even more interested on your thoughts about Lee Know and Seungmin. I guarantee you'll see a side of Seungmin you've never seen, or maybe just a way more intense version of him.
@morayoadedapo2457
@morayoadedapo2457 Жыл бұрын
I think they both value the other's opinion/approval and because of that react differently to each other. Chan's "yea, I should lose weight" and seungmin's "I want to help but ik he doesn't want me to". They hold each other to high standards and so try to cater to the other and only show their good sides, all the while wishing the other would open up to and share his burdens with him.
@lenara0801
@lenara0801 Жыл бұрын
chan made me so upset like idk how he didn't connect "i should've cried in the bathroom" and "even when I'm with members i still feel lonely"
@tchhairband
@tchhairband Жыл бұрын
On behalf of every seungminXminho stans II want to state that we would love a video of you reacting to their 2kids room ep.They have a very differkind of relationship and way of showing their affection . Which causes people to misunderstand them. We'll be waiting fo that viseo max. Great work!!!
@Diraaaaa7
@Diraaaaa7 Жыл бұрын
Thissss🙏🙏🍀
@rosethorn0232
@rosethorn0232 Жыл бұрын
I'm reminded of the SKZ Code where they visited Jeju and Seungmin and Lee Know had to go grocery shopping together. They quieted right down at first and it left you wondering if they were actually awkward with each other, but really I think they are both more likely to value the quiet and don't necessarily need to be talking to be okay with each other. When they did start talking again they seemed comfortable.
@sharonlahaye5803
@sharonlahaye5803 Жыл бұрын
Bang Chan reminds me of a young RM. He too had a lot of responsibility. (At 19) and tried to carry it on his own. As a result, he became depressed. Chan is still young (but mature). I think he’ll learn to let the other members support him just as RM has said he realized he needed that to be a better leader. Chan has said that RM is his role model. It would be so cool if they could talk.
@kazemiracle
@kazemiracle Жыл бұрын
When chan said RM is his role model? I mean i watched all his vlive but never heard that
@lorenlane1319
@lorenlane1319 Жыл бұрын
@@kazemiracle kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msWFdMJ0z57choU.html 3:25
@sinevins
@sinevins Жыл бұрын
Def. can see why he would look up to RM. My guess is RM might be able to really help giide him with some of his leadership worries. They might be able to really connect over such things. Just a thought.
@kazemiracle
@kazemiracle Жыл бұрын
@@sinevins did chans ever said that tho? Did chans said rm was his role model? Because i watched all his content and he never said that
@sinevins
@sinevins Жыл бұрын
@@kazemiracle I never said he did or didn't
@roseapricot7250
@roseapricot7250 Жыл бұрын
stray kids dynamic as brotherhood really interesting and wholesome hence why skz are relatable to a lot of people depending our personalities. also watching their communication skills with members or people in general helps me to improve myself. skz is not perfect but their consideration, love and tolerations toward each other are heart warming. skz went through rock bottom since debut (tho now they on top game) so their bond is different. not only seungmin but other skz member really appreciates, loves and respects bangchan enormously for his leadership and as a brother, no doubt. for fun: not in this ep but seungmin few times mentioned he knew chan loves drumsticks but chan purposely not eating it and gives to other member first bc he wants them to have it, seungmin observed chan little gestures and follows. skz has an amazing support system. i am grateful for that.
@hyunjinandrum
@hyunjinandrum Жыл бұрын
HAN AND SEUNGMIN'S TWO KIDS ROOM PLEASE 🏃‍♀🏃‍♀🏃‍♀
@chacarilla01
@chacarilla01 Жыл бұрын
THISSS
@ahsrav0
@ahsrav0 Жыл бұрын
yessss
@Diraaaaa7
@Diraaaaa7 Жыл бұрын
This 2kr is the best one like it shows how chan who pretends to be strong for his team showed his vulnerable side to seungmin and how min said that we won't know until u tell us made me realize bangchan tries to take more of his responsibilities only by himself that even at a time skz might not know what he be going through. I enjoyed ur analysis too. ]Can we get lee know ×seungmin 2kr please??
@adeleisure
@adeleisure Жыл бұрын
It'll be my third time asking for lee know and Seungmin 2kr episode analysis! Please 🙏 they are really spectacular to analyze:) Chan really seems to be holding a lot on his shoulders and not even trying to share with other members, so that's why i always worry about his mental health :( i just keep hoping he's soon to understand that... Love your analyses so much btw
@seungjin4life711
@seungjin4life711 Жыл бұрын
Hi Max, i think there's a high chance of possibility that Chan might watch your reaction to them since he watch a lot of reaction videos to them, I think he'll might learn a lot of things from you so please continue to love and support skz. Thank you so much for the reaction.😊😊
@ssungart
@ssungart Жыл бұрын
😉
@KenyanOtaku
@KenyanOtaku 7 ай бұрын
Did this happen?
@vivilore677
@vivilore677 Жыл бұрын
wow i learned so much watching your videos. For sure Chan has put up walls during the years which he slowly lets down around the members, but he is still sometimes a mystery, especially cause he also wants to hide things, like his burdens and struggles. I agree with Seungmin being emotionally very smart. He knows how to mold himself to the members, and knows probably more about what Chan could go through, but ofc they dont reveal that and ofc Seungmin as u said, knows where the limit is.
@MissYellowCat
@MissYellowCat Жыл бұрын
I stongly hope you check out Seungmin and Felix's 2 kids room they have a very cute relationship and you will see a side of felix you probably haven't seen before. Also chan usually does play well with seungmin's jokes, but sometimes chan kind of let's it get to him, he is sometimes sensitive as the members say. But seungmin and lee know are some of chan's favorite people to joke around with, he may have just wanted to be a bit more serious for this 2 kids room
@Vadzx
@Vadzx Жыл бұрын
I don't even think Seungmin was joking tbh. He said it like "remember Chan, you said you wanted to lose weight" because Chan is constantly talking about his body and exactly how he wants it. So I think him saying that was like an actual reminder and not meant to be mean or even a joke, Chan is often saying that he wants people to tell him which is hard to wrap my head around but yeah that's what he wants he's very conscious of it and even got super upset when someone told him he looked like he lost weight because at that time he was trying to bulk
@elenymm
@elenymm Жыл бұрын
I think he was joking that that's how he can take Chan's food for himself. But maybe it was a combination of a reminder and a joke.
@Vadzx
@Vadzx Жыл бұрын
@@elenymm Maybe, honestly out of all the members Seungmin is actually the person I understand the least because we're very different so maybe I read it wrong lmao
@candicepho
@candicepho Жыл бұрын
@@Vadzx no, i think ur right
@tapioooca5182
@tapioooca5182 Жыл бұрын
Nah I think it is him trying to joke because he does that a lot with Changbin too. It's a dangerous topic to use for humor, it's very likely they'll get sensitive. But their dynamic also includes being open with each other as a group so I'm not worried that much.
@katjalovesmusicals4337
@katjalovesmusicals4337 Жыл бұрын
Loved this reaction and your take on things as much as I loved reading the comments. I agree with the person who said that Chan was actually trying to steer the conversation towards a deeper talk and Seungmin tries to stay away from that. You can see that happening in many of the two kids rooms with Seungmin. But its also clear that Chan is sensitive about his appearance. He doesn't think too highly of himself. Even his professional skills are lacking far too much in his mind...at least thats what he says. All on all I completely agree that Seungmin is good for Chan. If only for being that person Chan could let out his emotions during the "gukbap of tears". Clearly Seungmin knew him well enough to know to just let him cry. Its never good to swallow those tears down and just be strong all the time.
@yeonjuniebaby
@yeonjuniebaby Жыл бұрын
Hi! I'd love to see you analylizing seungmin and lee know two kids room! They are such a cute and misterious duo
@alicelisayoda
@alicelisayoda 6 ай бұрын
Bang Chan don't need to lose weight. He's perfect
@fjsundin2653
@fjsundin2653 Жыл бұрын
Stray kids are so open and thoughtful in their relationships with each other and it's so interesting hearing you talk about it and put it in different perspectives. I always love watching your videos ❤ I recommend Chan and Hyunjin’s 2kids room next 😊
@maxpbeaumont
@maxpbeaumont Жыл бұрын
Thanks for being here :)
@Jungkook_titties
@Jungkook_titties Жыл бұрын
Interesting you saw some awkwardness and miss communication I didn't see that at all. I don't think chan took offence cause he knows seungmin likes to tease him like that. Chan may be sensitive but he knows seungmin means well.
@elenapicco1412
@elenapicco1412 Жыл бұрын
i feel like chan doesn’t want to relay on the kids that much not because he doesn’t want to show his weaknesses but primarily because he doesn’t want to burden them with other “problems”, the guy was already in the industry as a trainee when he was 13, he knows the pressure and stress their careers entail so the last thing he wants to do is to add other stress. when he goes live he isn’t afraid to voice his weaknesses to thousands of fans (even tho i’m sure he talks about only 10% of his actual problems). i hope he’s able to talk to a therapist every now and then, but considering how mental health is still kind of a taboo in sk, i wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t, unfortunately
@user-kf3ti8xm4o
@user-kf3ti8xm4o Жыл бұрын
Loved your reaction as always Max, it’s always nice to see what you have to say about these different 2 kid room episodes. I’d recommend the I.N and Seungmin episode next if you’re curious about seeing more Seungmin! They’re very close and are the youngest in the group so they have a great bond
@maxpbeaumont
@maxpbeaumont Жыл бұрын
Thanks! And appreciate the suggestion :)
@miyahnara
@miyahnara Жыл бұрын
I love the changes of the background in each video I click on 😹😹
@yesit_slove
@yesit_slove Жыл бұрын
I loved this episode so much because it showed so much of how Chan processes things and for me, I noticed that Seungmin is careful with Chan like he understands that he's sensitive. I love their relationship, it might not be smooth but it feels healing
@myskyrona8154
@myskyrona8154 Жыл бұрын
Hi Max, I really love how at times we have the same observations about the kids. Still waiting for your take on Chan and Felix's 2kids' room. They have a very interesting dynamic in their brotherhod that is different from the others and you would surely appreciate the members' input about them. The 2kids+1 room episode with chan, felix and seungmin is also good.
@FloraMay95
@FloraMay95 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for a new Stray Kids video!! I hope there will be a video for Hyunjin and Lee Know 2 kids room one day, their friendship evolved a lot^^
@vanessamenacho5695
@vanessamenacho5695 Жыл бұрын
I really don't see Chan getting defensive here. I don't know how yo explain it but from watching him over the last 4 years, I just know he didn't get defensive at all. He's sensitive but he doesn't take what the kids say to him as other than a joke (in the context the show us). They've always said the have meetings to address if there's been any sort of issue between them over the years and that's how they know each other and their limits very well. I wish you could watch a little bit more content about Chan so you can comprehend him better bc i really can't explain what I've learnt about him. Always enjoy your videos. Thank you for being so respectful 😊
@midzystay
@midzystay Жыл бұрын
i love these reactions! and i love kids rooms i feel like it's when they're more open with each other
@azariell9193
@azariell9193 Жыл бұрын
These are AMAZING. I always find myself leaning in, squinting and analyzing alongside you, haha :'D One of my favorite 2KR episodes is Lee Know x Hyunjin, who I always thought were pretty opposite (??) personalities until I got to know them better and especially after their session. Would love to hear your analysis!
@anelimg774
@anelimg774 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for analysis!!! Really appreciate Chan in this episode for being so open and honest, it’s really touching ❤️‍🩹 And yeah.. I also join to some comments here, and I’m loooking forward to your analysis of episode with Lee Know and Seungmin so so sooo much 😄
@alexndre4898
@alexndre4898 Жыл бұрын
Patiently waiting for the 2min (Seungmin and Lee Know) episode 🫡
@isabeljones5868
@isabeljones5868 Жыл бұрын
Unintentionally sips tea made me laugh so hard 😂
@betulgoker
@betulgoker Жыл бұрын
i would love to see you analyse leeknow x changbin 2kidsroom, leeknow seems so open with changbin and im sure youll love it
@aminababaeva2010
@aminababaeva2010 Жыл бұрын
I'm still waiting for ChanLix(Bangchan&Felix) 🫀 I think their relationship is different from other kids
@kpabo325
@kpabo325 Жыл бұрын
Hi Max! As a suggestion, I recommend 2 Kids Room: Bang Chan X Felix edition. Especially considering how long you have been analyzing them now, I think you would find it really interesting to see the two of them talking without the influence of the others. I think that their both being from Australia plays a part in how close they are, and they both show completely different sides when it is just them. Felix is far more calm and less "lovey," while Chan is a bit more open and talkative. I would love to see your take! Also - I only recently discovered your channel, but I really love your videos and enjoy your comments about the boys.Thank you for doing these, stays all around the world really appreciate them!
@maxpbeaumont
@maxpbeaumont Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion and for being here, Katie!
@tillytilbrook2362
@tillytilbrook2362 Жыл бұрын
7:43 this just made me think of Chan's Solo song "I Hate to Admit". You're definitely on to something with that observation!
@summer-ug3gc
@summer-ug3gc Жыл бұрын
EXCITED FOR THIS ONE
@MellVer
@MellVer 11 ай бұрын
Sorry if I wrong. As I know, Bang Chan was probably been through depression and had suicidal thoughts (training time). I remember in one of Chan's Rooms, he said "if it weren't Stray kids, maybe I wouldn't be here, maybe I wouldn't even exist on planet earth". It's hard to say if Bang Chan ever suffered from depression, but one thing is for sure, his 7 years as a trainee left a lot of darkness and wounds in his psyche. From an innocent and pure boy full of ambition and hope, he became a senior trainee that other trainees felt afraid of. So that, Skz is like his life, his dream, his family. In order to every members can be shined, he had to go hard and strict on them. i feel that, although Bang Chan is very humble and sweet, he is actually very sensitive and insecure, he wants to hear affirmation about him and Skz. And he might do anything to protect his dream and his family
@melanieconway3437
@melanieconway3437 Жыл бұрын
1:36 wow, hearing a professional recognize that Chan is sensitive makes me feel good about my own observation skills! even tho while as the leader, he tries his best to always be strong, he's still affected by what people say & honestly is pretty sensitive! ppl (on vlive [streams]) have made comments about his nose before, for instance, so he's insecure about it (or so it seems; he talks negatively about it at least) :< which makes me sad as a fan & someone who's had (& still _has!)_ their own personal struggles with body image! I sincerely hope Chan gets reassurance from his members/those around him in regards to his insecurities, but I also try to understand that (unfortunately) a lot of society is affected by negative self talk regarding their own appearance, especially when you're a celebrity (of any sort). sorry for the long comment, just have a lot of thoughts!! oh also, I don't think Seungmin is trying to be genuinely mean here or anything, I think he's just unaware of how his teasing might affect Chan since Chan tends to not rely on the others, wanting to be seen as someone they can rely on instead (as the oldest & leader...)
@user-fg7xu3dh9z
@user-fg7xu3dh9z Жыл бұрын
I've waited so long for this...😭😭
@poelina8870
@poelina8870 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the stray kids reactions ❤
@annnie6133
@annnie6133 Жыл бұрын
Loved your analysis!!
@aliyaha8375
@aliyaha8375 Жыл бұрын
you're so perceptive! i think some ppl in the comments are disagreeing with you because they are misunderstanding you. it's clear that bang chan and seungmin have a lot of love and respect for each other and have learned a lot from each other, and you've pin-pointed exactly why!
@faleyahh
@faleyahh Жыл бұрын
OMGAJSHSHUSJDHEH I’VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!!! Thank you for this reaction, I’ll continue supporting you! 🤍
@ssungart
@ssungart Жыл бұрын
Straykidss contents r always welcoming:)
@kirariniwa3948
@kirariniwa3948 Жыл бұрын
I love your videos, what an interesting analysis
@annelopez7502
@annelopez7502 Жыл бұрын
thanks for reacting. 😊 I just woke up and I immediately click to this video when I saw it. Still in my bed watching this for the third time😁😅
@anahihernandez9369
@anahihernandez9369 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you. Great video 👍🫶🏼
@lilichanne6500
@lilichanne6500 Жыл бұрын
Amo você reagindo ao Stray kids sensacional.
@seungmin-love
@seungmin-love Жыл бұрын
Can we please have seungmin and Lee know 🥺🥺🥰
@ann-hb6iz
@ann-hb6iz Жыл бұрын
THIS!!!!
@arn613
@arn613 Жыл бұрын
Yes, looking forward to this.
@ahsrav0
@ahsrav0 Жыл бұрын
yesss
@phylisbrown1181
@phylisbrown1181 Жыл бұрын
When Seungmin said, you show me more than I want to know....Chan had a small snicker. Seungmin is referring to the fact that Chan walks around naked in the house
@scarlett1025
@scarlett1025 Жыл бұрын
I need more skz content from you 😭😭
@lydiai3264
@lydiai3264 Жыл бұрын
Sadly if you watch his lives you can tell evidently and clearly Bang Chan doesn't have a good acceptance to his appearance despite him being a truly lovely and beautiful human being, so he's very sensitive to comments about his appearance however he did say that he has a somewhat ideal body type goal and hes glad for the members when they give him feedback since he can't tell himself. Fun fact tho the reason Chan's arms are long as pointed out by Seungmin is that he's double jointed and can stretch them farther so I think it's more of a joke
@LaYonku
@LaYonku Жыл бұрын
Skz again! Thanks Max.
@fake_999
@fake_999 Жыл бұрын
i love your honesty and yes, sometimes they are awkward with one another because there's something that sometimes doesn't click and that's completly fine. please watch seungmin amd lee know's two kids room. i reaaaaall wanna hear your thoughts on that.
@Danielle28796
@Danielle28796 Жыл бұрын
I would love it if you reacted to Bangchan and Felix on the Daebak Show! It is so wholesome and relaxed!! 🤍
@peng1n3
@peng1n3 Жыл бұрын
I have been binge-watching these and would love to see more Enhypen especially So So Fun, and En'oclock.
@alecognetta6478
@alecognetta6478 Жыл бұрын
I think chan and quite honestly all of the members struggle with their relationship with food and body image, which is understandable considering their jobs and what they went through as trainees. It might be even more of a sensitive topic for chan because of how long he trained for and having to be strict with himself from a very young age.
@vishikanunkoo2918
@vishikanunkoo2918 Жыл бұрын
Hi max you can analyse or even watch in your own time stray Kids mini fanmeet backdoor. You will be able to see how Bangchan mood affects the group and also how he was upset towards the staff because the members were uncomfortable and felix struggling with the app whereas hyunjin was clueless about the monitor plug . He also helped i.n with his choker .Despite being angry with the staff he helped the other members and tried to keep it together . Here is the link kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iK2VaLmYudvGm4E.html
@ssungart
@ssungart Жыл бұрын
its interesting that someone commented in Korean that "Felix&Chan might act serious with Korean jokes bc culture and language r not used to them". And this K stay mentioned that Hyunjin once said Lix and Chan are the hardest to manage:). after i watched ur video, i also thought that maybe~~~Chan's Korean is not perfect as Korean who grew up in South Korea. this is just maybe. even though his Korean is ok, i mean...hmm.. the meaning behind the Korean? as i am also a Korean who grew up in the other country, sometimes i cant read the atmosphere and understand Korean in diff. meaning. uhh this is sooo damn hard to explain bc my eng. is not pefect T.T😆😆😆
@ssungart
@ssungart Жыл бұрын
i also sensed that Felix this lovely guy always looks serious when other 00s line make Korean jokes and couldnt unserstand it correctly🤣 but he is cute so its okay
@intersterlar
@intersterlar Жыл бұрын
i loved this reaction! appreciate you always!! could you react to woosung? i feel like you'd really like him, i think the video where he was a guest on the daebak show and also when he was on the get real podcast are some good videos to watch
@StaySiren
@StaySiren Жыл бұрын
I think that 2KR is great, but I’d also watch them in situations where they can play and have fun, like Skz code to see dynamics at work.
@patriciaparadise1133
@patriciaparadise1133 Жыл бұрын
Hey Max, like your reaction videos to our boys. On another note, is that your porch? Love it!!!!!!!!!
@NaturalAegyo
@NaturalAegyo Жыл бұрын
I was so surprised at their dynamic! Seungmin is quite the enigma, but your analysis helped me see how he subtly changed his approach to accommodate his hyung. I didn't pick up on how he was so sharp or considerate until you really broke it down. Seungmin/Lee Know will be another great less flirty pairing, lol. They joke about being a divorced couple, but it's interesting to see them communicate. They aren't super sweet to one another, but obviously have a sense of respect and comfort from being long time colleagues.
@lunaluna3914
@lunaluna3914 Жыл бұрын
hiii! first of all i love your videos they are always so interesting to watch 🤗 i want to recommend watching two kids room chan and Hyunjin. their dynamic is really interesting 😊
@melanieconway3437
@melanieconway3437 Жыл бұрын
4:14 right?! I love how they've grown to know how to handle one another, they're true friends, all of em
@spitegames
@spitegames 11 ай бұрын
im late and only partway through so idk if this is mentioned in the 2 kids room, if its something you talk abt, if its elsewhere in the comments but i remember somewhere chan talking about having been hard on everyone because as their leader in an elimination type game, he wanted to make sure everybody made it through and everybody stayed together. and now that he doesnt need to be That Sort of leader anymore, he wants to make up for it-- dunno if thats the right phrase to use but he at least wants to be close with them all and be seen as a friend and such as well. i think thats why he reacted that way to seungmins comment about being scary in the morning. im sure he recognized the joke/light-heartedness in the statement as its difficult to live so closely with people like that without learning their joking style (and you've seen how perceptive and attentive chan is with the members and really how they all are with each other as a whole) etc etc i saw another comment mention this but it does seem like chan has lower self esteem... theres a clip that comes to mind - someone mentioning how he was on like the top 100 most handsome faces or whatever and at first hes like laughing and just seems to be humble/silly but the longer it goes on it just makes me kind of sad? it stopped feeling that way and started to feel more genuine form him that he just doesnt believe it? i think he does a good job at coming across as humble but it also seems like he struggles with accepting compliments or speaking highly of himself just from what ive seen. id be interested to hear your thoughts as well since im not like a behavioral or communication coach/dont have professional analysis skills with this and dont want to read into things to an unhealthy/unhelpful degree, but sometimes i think trying to really dig into heavier topics related to them is too invasive? i dont know how to phrase it. i think being in the public eye is hard, and its easy for fans to take shit and run with it in a way thats just super harmful and i dont want to become like that. i think i just notice behavior/feelings that mimic/reflect some of my own stuff, but again, as a fan i only see the stuff that they put out into the public and its not my place to jump to conclusions given my own limited understanding. sorry this became a ramble hahaha. ive been kinda binging your skz videos! theyre very nice to listen to and i really enjoy the psychological(?) information you bring to it
@arsa1143
@arsa1143 Жыл бұрын
What a surprise omg
@misturahsonaike3018
@misturahsonaike3018 Жыл бұрын
love your analysis and reactions! please react to felix and i.n's 2 kids room as well as felix and seungmin's 2 kids room, if you can
@mhlib7569
@mhlib7569 Жыл бұрын
I don't know much about stay kids but I've been watching their videos recently. It seems like, and it's not to say the other members don't feel this sometimes but, because he's the oldest and the leader and maybe for other reasons he seems very self-critical so when Seungmin said he was scary as a joke it seems like Bang Chan was aware of that part of him and maybe was trying to work on it so it took him by surprise if Seungmin had said that he was still scary even today. I'm not sure though. I don't see this as miscommunication. More like Seungmin was trying to open up but framed it as a joke.
@melanieconway3437
@melanieconway3437 Жыл бұрын
14:40 I relate to them w one of my friends, honestly, even though we've known each other for years
@misturahsonaike3018
@misturahsonaike3018 Жыл бұрын
a style of communication i think you might really like is felix and han's one! please react to their 2 kid's room, I'm really curious as to what you think and I think you'll really like it :)
@Mini_satexm
@Mini_satexm Жыл бұрын
Hey Max I want to recommend something but first I really want to say that I enjoy your videos!😊 Now for my recommendation it's not SKZ related I hope that is okay!😁 I really want to see some Xdinary Heroes analyses because for me they have some same vibes like SKZ & also for me these two are like Ying Yang!😌😁 So I really hope that you will check them out! They are an amazing, funny & talented band!😌😊
@Aparajith_
@Aparajith_ Жыл бұрын
I have a different theory than you @Maxbeaumont. When Sengmin shifted to talk about a 3rd person in the group like say I.N. or Chanbin, Bang Chan lowered his defenses. I felt the communication of emotions related to each other between Bang Chan and Sengmin was still not synced
@Hoeranghaeee
@Hoeranghaeee Жыл бұрын
Hey Max :) Thank you for your Videos! Could you please do I.N x Hyunjin or I.N x Lee Know? I would really appreciate it! :D
@tcch.hairband3338
@tcch.hairband3338 Жыл бұрын
Please react to Felix's most recent vlog in Austrailia, he's so sweet and close to his family it's adorable. u can really see his personality
@user-jf9ik7oc1f
@user-jf9ik7oc1f Жыл бұрын
The thing with koreans is they always wait for the 'punchline'..they say little at a time building up to the main thing. But everything they say before that is also hard hitting that youd think that's it... so you cant analyse line by line, instead you have to wait to find the bigger picture,.. btw, i love your channel
@urvashibisht7320
@urvashibisht7320 Жыл бұрын
Please react to seungmin leeknow 2kids room
@isauregoyat6777
@isauregoyat6777 Жыл бұрын
can you do [2 Kids Room] Seungmin x lee know
@feliciakling198
@feliciakling198 Жыл бұрын
I really think that you should react to “Hyunjin & Felix” there’s a lot of things to analyze there!!
@Oliviainzz
@Oliviainzz Жыл бұрын
Please do 2 kids room felix x hyunjin and lee know x seungmin. Curious as what you think these two conversations go ❤
@aaaakuleczkaa
@aaaakuleczkaa Жыл бұрын
Max I hope you're gonna react to Yoongi drinking talk show 🤞🤞🤞
@sarat3143
@sarat3143 Жыл бұрын
i would love to see as well a reaction to Ariana Grande a lot of ppl think shes inauthentic
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