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Surface Pro 8 vs M1 iPad Pro - Which is More Pro?
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Күн бұрынMicrosoft's Surface Pro 8 combines the best of the Surface Pro 7 and X to make an ultimate all in one but at the same $1200 can it compete with the 12.9" M1 iPad Pro?
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In this comparison video, we compare basically everything between the new Microsoft Surface Pro 8 and the 12.9" M1 iPad Pro to see if Microsoft can dethrone Apple as the best portable computer!
We compare many things including the design, size, weight, displays, keyboards, trackpads, pen performance, CPU and GPU tests, and much more!
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Surface Pro 8 vs M1 iPad Pro - 00:00
External Design Differences & Weight - 00:26
Camera Differences & Quality - 1:43
Keyboard and Trackpad Comparison - 2:53
Face ID vs Windows Hello - 5:07
Webcam and Microphone Comparison - 5:40
Speaker Quality Comparison - 6:38
Display Comparison - 7:44
Mini LED vs LCD HDR Test - 9:03
Apple Pencil vs Surface Pen 2 - 10:12
Geekbench 5 CPU Performance Test - 11:08
Geekbench 5 Graphics Performance Test - 12:47
Unplugged vs Plugged in Performance - 13:11
iPadOS 15 vs Windows 11 - 13:37
Which device is more Pro? - 14:46
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@MaxTechOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
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@AMDRyzen4070Ti 2 жыл бұрын
I can't afford both of the devices lmao 🤣
@nKrandom 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot the time stamps for this video!
@leafourthtv 2 жыл бұрын
I will buy ipad pro 11 inch
@AMDRyzen4070Ti 2 жыл бұрын
@@leafourthtv why are you making me look poor bruh
@jenishpallath9113 2 жыл бұрын
I would buy the Surface pro for work and an iPad for entertainment. The truth is I will never buy either I never had that sort of money.
@DT-vc7hd 2 жыл бұрын
I own an ipad pro (not m1), and it's a fine device, but (for me), a tablet OS will likely never replace a regular desktop OS. Even with m1 outperforming in most of these categories, the surface is the better fit for my current workflow needs.
@hariharanbalaji2457 2 жыл бұрын
True, apple gotta start leaning towards a desktop type os over innovating iPad os
@SW-fy8pq 2 жыл бұрын
@@hariharanbalaji2457 they won't do it. they want people to buy both ipad and macbook.
@pieterrossouw8596 2 жыл бұрын
@@SW-fy8pq fair enough, but it's this that keeps me out of the Apple ecosystem.
@deathbladestan6459 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, I just got a macbook pro 14, I prefer it over the ipad pro 12.9 with keyboard. It's just more versatile and not limited with a full OS - MacOs vs ios. To bad they didn't come out with the 14 first, I would not have purchased the ipad.
@Johnmims65 2 жыл бұрын
If I got iPad Pro should I return for the pro 8 or keep my MacBook pro m1?
@TuanNguyen-kj1rz Жыл бұрын
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@denziiey 2 жыл бұрын
I don't care how fast Apple makes the IPad it is still a tablet (mobile ) platform while the surface is a full desktop platform. Nuff said there!
@makasete30 2 жыл бұрын
True but the surface is a piss poor tablet experience in comparison. The iPad has powerful ecosystem of specialised apps dedicated to touch and stylus interface. I have both for home and work, and whilst I like the file system on the surface pro and I like that it's a full desktop I do find myself reaching for the iPad more. It's generally faster, better for drawing, lasts much longer on battery, has a better camera which I use for scanning or recording video. It's enjoyable to watch content on. It also avoids the annoying updates in window. I could go on...s > They serve different needs. If I had to pick just one device it would be the surface as it can do more, but the iPad pro excells at more than just speed, and that's why many prefer it and it still outsells the surface. I still see the iPad as a companion device for myself, but I know people who use it as their only device and it suits their needs. Some people just want a good tablet. Apple does need to utilise the m1 chip more though...
@denziiey 2 жыл бұрын
@@makasete30 I find the iPad to be a more niche device. So people who do a lot of drawing or use CAD software for home design, Adobe mobile then the iPad is perfect. For a reg student or consumer device I would get the Samsung tablet. That's my biggest tissue with Apple though. Their devices are every specific to a particular function. Cause if you're not into video and photo editing or music what's what's the purpose of a Mac. As everyday devices they don't justify their price tag but work very well for their niche functions. I'm not sure I could ever give up a desktop platform for mobile but then again I'm a heavy desktop user
@grom3 2 жыл бұрын
@@denziiey Windows is much better for CAD. I say this as a CAD Designer
@Shinn27 2 жыл бұрын
The problem is windows touch is a joke compared to an iPad, so the surface is a far better full computer but a much crappier tablet if you remove the keyboard. For people who want just one hybrid device to do everything I think the OS needs the flexibility to switch between full desktop mode and a tablet mode. Shame that windows seem to have abandoned the tiles approach from win8 for touch, that style had potential for when u just wanna chill in bed or on the couch with a tablet
@denziiey 2 жыл бұрын
@@Shinn27 in that case I think Samsung has done a great job emulating a desktop experience on a tablet. Sadly though lazy software developers won't engineer professional apps. It's funny check this out: Ipad: excellent job as a tablet. Sucks as a desktop Surface: excellent job as a desktop. Sucks as a tablet Samsung tab: proficient at both but lack of professional apps make it more a consumer device Sorry no Winners here 🙈🙈
@zhongxina5597 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like most people can’t really benefit that much from M1 in iPadOS
@bobbyright2010 2 жыл бұрын
But for third-party developers they can.
@kikoy08 2 жыл бұрын
So you suggest to go with the surface book… its better to have something and you don’t need it than to don’t have it and you need it.
@zhongxina5597 2 жыл бұрын
@@kikoy08 no im saying ipados cant really use the full power of m1
@zhongxina5597 2 жыл бұрын
@@kikoy08 I would still choose ipad pro over surface its just that ipados can't really use all that power
@fatyak4122 2 жыл бұрын
iPad is just a big, expensive and overpowered toy. It would be a nice device for everyone if not for crippling it's potential iOS. Macs are nice and with M1 would be great, but without touchscreen they are useless for me.
@user-fv9cb1kw2o 2 жыл бұрын
Ipad pro = bigger iphone + notebook Surface = a real PC with notetaking feature I have both of them and love surface more.
@grom3 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. Surface is ideal for 2-in-1: a PC and a tablet
@ubaidullahsayeed281 2 жыл бұрын
@@grom3 can you please tell me if the touch issue is fixed on the surface? is it smooth?
@arturbibik 2 жыл бұрын
@@ubaidullahsayeed281 on my pro 7 touch behaves perfectly
@mini9503 2 жыл бұрын
@@ubaidullahsayeed281 Yes it is, watch Brad Colbow's review.
@tyrellhenry7649 2 жыл бұрын
@@arturbibik dont lie touch is very delayed and sticky I hate it
@Marngel 2 жыл бұрын
If I was forced to only use one of these two as my only computer, I’d take the Surface Pro for the fact that it can run the few niche programs I have to use for school. However, I still love the iPad Pro more as an overall device because everything about it is just more fun to use. I just wished that “more fun” translated to more capable.
@arisistible1 2 жыл бұрын
At least you’re honest about “more fun” does not always translate to more capable.
@hk6926 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@tifeakintan9019 2 жыл бұрын
@@arisistible1 so the iPhone 13 pro max is better than than the s22 ultra
@arisistible1 2 жыл бұрын
@@tifeakintan9019 Haven’t use either, couldn’t tell you which is “more fun,” or “more capable.”
@azexy21 2 жыл бұрын
the ipad screen and sound quality is insane the CPU is powerful and useless at the same the OS is super limited sounds like a huge phone
@knowledgeispower36 2 жыл бұрын
I like the iPad but using it like a computer is beyond frustrating, even with basic things like websites act weird on the ipad
@utilisateurkirin6410 2 жыл бұрын
iPadOS 15 is buggy af. Safari became very confusing and super frustrating to use. Battery drains soooooo fast. And yes, you’re right, no matter how hard I just to use it as a computer replacement, it never felt like one.
@mini9503 2 жыл бұрын
Please elaborate, weird in what way?
@justSTUMBLEDupon 2 жыл бұрын
True iPad is mainly a consumption machine You can edit photos and videos on it. Also draw as well. So it has some uses but for the most part it’s designed for you to read, watch, and interact with what your reading and watching. Making stuff is not it.
@iloveminecraft2009 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve noticed that websites just feel like they aren’t optimized or they are using old versions of websites. Some websites you have to click things twice (the KZfaq website does this), and some websites don’t display the menus properly. Those are a few things I noticed
@mini9503 2 жыл бұрын
@@iloveminecraft2009 Interesting.. is this a mobile Safari issue or do other iPad browsers share the same problem??
@TriMuXx 2 жыл бұрын
Surface Pro 8 for the win. It can get work done AND have fun. Especially if you add an eGPU into the mix. Try playing a cross platform FPS game on the iPad vs Surface Pro 8, Surface Pro 8 will be faster/smoother everytime. Also, even iPad OS has issues while consuming. You'll visit a page and try to watch the embedded video only to get an error "This video not available on a mobile device". Surface Pro 8 be like "Enjoy your video". I stopped at the iPad 4. I was tired of the restrictions and lockdowns due to iOS and to find out that iPad OS is also locked down is just a massive disappointment after all these years. The video goes to show that all the power in the world means nothing if the OS won't let you use it. I've personally felt that the Surface Pro 3 was the iPad Killer already, but now that the Surface Pro 8 has Thunderbolt 4.....it's definitely the better TABLET (Yes, I said tablet because that's the form factor. The keyboard is detachable and not permanently fixed and the screen is touchscreen so this makes it a TABLET not a LAPTOP. People trying to save the iPad from embarrassment because it can't compete with the Surface Pro so they put the Surface Pro in with the Laptops to be like "you didn't see that..." lol) of the two and has been for a while now. Hopefully Apple can get MacOS or make iPad OS more flexible and powerful in the future instead of restricting it's users.
@TheSonicSegaNerd Жыл бұрын
What eGPU do you use? I like that idea but haven't ever used an eGPU..
@grom3 2 жыл бұрын
A good review. Surface is a real computer where you can run all the desktop apps and programs. But iPad is just a tablet (the best one though) with its limitations. I'm writing this comment from the Surface. And I use it as 2-in-1: a tablet and a PC depending on my purposes
@sarizonana 2 жыл бұрын
And in that case it’s better to get one the less expensive iPads than the pro no ? The iPad it’s an amazing tablet the best in my opinion but the iPad Pro is the worst choice of the two in one. Devices I don’t hate Microsoft or android my phone is android but the apple software is the best in my opinion due to being the easiest to use for non tech experts and the most secure against malware and viruses. With apple you don’t need an antivirus with Microsoft you do.
@Pilgrim1st 2 жыл бұрын
How do you find the pen? Have you also used an apple pencil at some point and could you compare the two? I'm torn between buying a Surface Pro 8 for university or buying the iPad Air and a laptop separately. If you had to do a large amount of maths which would you prefer? Would you ever read on your Surface?
@joeyn177 2 жыл бұрын
@@sarizonana The Surface has Windows 11, not Android. It's a full computer first that can be used as a tablet experience when using the touchscreen for drawing or taking notes. The iPad is a tablet first since it uses a tablet OS rather than something like MacOS or Windows. The software is much more limited and is locked down in Apple's ecosystem. It's fine if you only use programs from the App Store and don't need a computer, but it can't replace a computer for those who use one. Also the built in anti-virus for Windows has been pretty good since Windows 10. Majority of people don't need a separate one.
@sarizonana 2 жыл бұрын
@@joeyn177 ohh ok thanks for explaining how windows has improved and how the surface is a laptop first, anyway I know the surface is windows what I meant was that android with the S series has a pretty similar use to the surface. I love the iPad so much and I think if you have clear you prefer first a tablet then the iPad is the best one in tablet mode but I’d say as a two in one ( laptop tablet together) the iPad is the worst. It’s the best tablet but worst two in one. Hope that makes sense and that’s why I think the iPad Pro is not worth getting. if you are sure you want the iPad buy one of the cheaper models either the iPad 9, iPad Air or iPad mini but the iPad Pro is too pricey for just a tablet but not efficient enough for a two in one
@ZimmerSquash 2 жыл бұрын
@@Pilgrim1st I have not used the apple one before but I can give my opinions about my surface pro 8. I've been using it for a couple of weeks now as a student. I'm learning computer science, so my needs such as compilers and other software is perfect with the surface 8 pro. When I'm in school, I can use it as a pc while also using it as a tablet to take notes. Due to covid, I am most often learning from home. So I mostly use the surface as a sketch book for notes taking and writing down formulas and visual aids for my game development. I think either device is good for writing math formulas and drawing shapes. OneNote for Windows 10 is a really well made writing app from Microsoft. I can directly take a picture of what the teacher wrote or the code snippet from my desktop screen and write on top of kt. I wanted to get a second monitor, but I don't have to anymore since the surface kinda acts like one for me. I just put the surface beneath my keyboard and it just feels really good to use! I really recommend it. But only if you're okay with it being a 2 in 1. Some people prefer to have their drawing tablet and laptop separate. You can ask me questions and I'll be happy to answer
@wmcmilli 2 жыл бұрын
Good video. Agree with most of the comments. The operating system matters. A modified cellphone operating system is not adequate for a pro device. Great hardware on the iPad Pro, but it doesn't fit my workflow so I can't take advantage of it. I can drive four independent monitors with a Surface Pro. The iPad Pro just seems to me to be overkill since you have all of this power, but the same limited functionality as a regular iPad.
@steven13cody 2 жыл бұрын
This a concise yet informative comment. Thanks
@hiteshgupta4064 2 жыл бұрын
Would appreciate if you could share how you connected 4 monitors, I can only see it recognizing two externals for me thru the dell 300 hub - what is your set up. Thank you in advance.
@SAMURAI-xe6gn 2 жыл бұрын
People can buy Surface 8 Pro for one reason and that is the one and only,the legendary 3.5mm HEADPHONE JACK!
@SAMURAI-xe6gn 2 жыл бұрын
@@Khaja_966 Yes,I agree.
@chidorirasenganz 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@chidorirasenganz 2 жыл бұрын
@@Khaja_966 full desktop apps is a meaningless term. Certain apps that aren’t on iPadOS is a better description
@xoobhan4395 2 жыл бұрын
or the fact that it has a REAL desktop OS and not just ios with different size
@LindonSlaght 2 жыл бұрын
Boycott Microsoft 🙄
@largewallofbeans9812 2 жыл бұрын
I think that the Surface is better from its price point, accessory price, ports, pen, upgradable SSD, and the simple fact that it uses x86 and runs Windows.
@a.s.a.8176 2 жыл бұрын
And also to add, Thunderbolt port from Surface could be used to plug an eGPU on it and increase power. Great video!
@tannerted 2 жыл бұрын
Most people will have a better experience with the iPad. That being said, as a software developer, I would choose the Surface over the iPad as my main machine any day of the week because I simply CANNOT compile code or use any of my favorite development tools on the iPad. Granted, I probably wouldn’t choose the Surface as my main machine given all the options I have that are much better.
@Gopinathk17 2 жыл бұрын
What are those better options over surface ? I'm just looking for a cheap detachable laptops. As of now I know surface pro and lenovo x12 & yoga 7i.
@MahmoudHamdyGunidy 2 жыл бұрын
May I ask what are the other better options than SP8 , while having a touch screen is a must
@nadrile 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gopinathk17 Eve V from what I’ve heard is a contender, but no idea really on the pricing & specs. I’m not in the market for one.
@nadrile 2 жыл бұрын
Same, the all-in-ones out today just are not good enough to be the only machine. It’s still better to have dedicated stuff for different things, thankfully the difference is getting smaller for my work. Maybe some year in the future..
@Stryker123321 2 жыл бұрын
The surface pro 8 is currently the best 2-in-1 in the market in my opinion.
@LuKiSCraft 2 жыл бұрын
Strongly agree with your conclusion. I honestly would probably buy an iPad Pro 9" if it had a Desktop OS. iPad OS is simply not sufficient for such a powerful tablet.
@brokenhero6828 Жыл бұрын
This is further more annoying how there’s no code difference anymore. MacOS apps are all native now to the Silicon chips and they can run natively on iPad Pro but apple refuses this to be allowed. Which is a huge bummer
@LuKiSCraft Жыл бұрын
@@brokenhero6828 Yep, and thus I still use Windows 11 for my personal machine. Thx Apple. You miss the revenue
@brokenhero6828 Жыл бұрын
@@LuKiSCraft I just bought a surface pro for dirt cheap for tablet usage! And light web browsing on the go
@DannysHauntedJourney 2 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that the GPU's on the Surface Pro 8's have a difference of 20% for the i7.
@TamerZiady 2 жыл бұрын
And the fact that you can attach external GPU as well as an i9 flavor (if available). Can the iPad have an external GPU?
@Dare2Blink 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations, fantastic non biased comparison. Just two small things: the windows hello camera can also be used to buy things in the store and log in to websites. You also forgot to mention that the surface pro 8 (and the Surface Laptop Studio for that matter) will get the dynamic refresh rate as well in a future update. Great video congrats
@TriMuXx 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the refresh rate update came out yesterday. Video needs to be redone? lol
@Stryker123321 2 жыл бұрын
@@TriMuXx it's dynamic now??
@AThaimomslifeinJapan 2 жыл бұрын
Which one more pro?
@mist1373 2 жыл бұрын
@@AThaimomslifeinJapan Depends on what kind of pro you are, for illustration and graphic design, the iPad might be better (surface isn't bad though), but for something like coding or office work, the Surface would be better.
@davosworks 2 жыл бұрын
Also the i7 version has 19,650 compute results which is ~+- the same as ipad. And no, fans didnt even kick in.
@julian5857 2 жыл бұрын
I'm going for the surface. It's cheaper, longer updates(cuz it's just windows), bigger screen and most importantly it's not just a scaled up iphone but a fully fledged computer/pc Edit: Got the surface Pro 8 for some time now and I love it!
@niclas7171 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, are you still happy with the surface? I would like to buy one too, but I m not sure about the battery life. How is your experience and how long does it last in your usecase?
@julian5857 2 жыл бұрын
@@niclas7171 my usecase is rather limited right now to basically only writing in OneNote(which Microsoft has to fix some things in) but I have only had it run below 30% yesterday after writing on it all day(on 60hz though). Sorry for the lack of information but I just haven't used it in a lot of different ways yet(I'm right in the middle of my finals so it does the note taking)
@niclas7171 2 жыл бұрын
@@julian5857 That's completely fine, thanks. I am a student (from germany, so sorry for my english) too. Taking Notes would also be the main task, I would do with the Pro 8. Sorry for asking, but how many hours did you take notes yesterday?
@julian5857 2 жыл бұрын
@@niclas7171 I'll test it out tomorrow
@julian5857 2 жыл бұрын
@@niclas7171 alright so it reports around 7 hours of screen on time. So depending on what you do in between, 7-8 is realistic(if you use it at 60hz). Other programs might use more or less power but I'd consider it pretty good for university/school purposes especially with the fast charge times
@auliamate 2 жыл бұрын
I watched 15 minutes of Max Tech video (a rare occurrence) to be met with exactly what I expected. Amazing video, great for those who didn't know about the pro-app problem with iPad Pro.
@steveellsworth2547 2 жыл бұрын
I have owned both devices. The iPad Pro will always be a productivity device and nothing more. Apple severely hampers the OS. The last time I used the device, I was limited to extending the screen and not having a secondary screen to extend. The Surface Pro does exactly the same as the iPad Pro, but you can actually have an active, full fledged OS. The reviewer admitted the iPad Pro is locked down and less useful, but picked the device in their review. The review was done looking at a holistic approach to automation, but on their belief on hardware.
@SuperDesignguy 2 жыл бұрын
Same story with iPad. Great hardware. We should have the option to run MacOS native apps. Until then, it's a great tablet held back by lack of desktop level apps and a terrible file system
@chidorirasenganz 2 жыл бұрын
Desktop level apps is a meaningless term. And the file systems is the same.
@travelhustle747 Жыл бұрын
@@chidorirasenganz It's not meaningless. Without OS hardware is useless
@chidorirasenganz Жыл бұрын
@@travelhustle747 I never said the OS didn’t matter. I said “Desktop app” is a meaningless term. Nothing more than a buzz phrase. There’s pro apps native to every platform. Hence the phrase has no meaning
@teopirgaru3151 2 жыл бұрын
just a curiosity..did you enable Enhance Sound on Surface? i know from an older surface thatbis a big difference....but lets be honest....apple speakers are great in most of their gadgets
@Sam-cj2jx 2 жыл бұрын
True
@SAMURAI-xe6gn 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@redsugar4383 2 жыл бұрын
Real！！！
@flitetym 2 жыл бұрын
The iPad is “all dressed-up, with nowhere to go.” But it’s an excellent - if not expensive - “consumption device.”
@thewonderofyou1 2 жыл бұрын
@@GodisGracious1031Ministries get a Mac.. It'll best both
@Tom_Stevens617 2 жыл бұрын
@@GodisGracious1031Ministries Is there anything you would want to do at school which would be possible on a Surface but not on an iPad?
@Htiy 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tom_Stevens617 desktop apps
@Stryker123321 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tom_Stevens617 better multitasking, desktop class apps, better file management, full desktop OS, egpu support, wayy better games (xbox gamepass), is actually a laptop and a tablet, not a try hard laptop
@Tom_Stevens617 2 жыл бұрын
@@Stryker123321 Unless you join a specific stream, you don't really need any of that for regular school stuff.
@adiru6125 2 жыл бұрын
me watching this with my fire hd 8 alexa: 👁👄👁
@Deacon50plus 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the candid review. It really outlines the dilemma in choosing a tablet. I want the functionality of the Surface Pro with the capability of the iPad Pro. I am in the apple eco-system however I have been giving lots of thought to jumping ship for the the Surface pro 8 for laptop portability. I really wish Apple would eliminate the MacBook Air and make the iPad Pro a fully capable computer like the Surface. This would be a game changer.
@vincwong8498 2 жыл бұрын
What about iPadOS 16 with stage manager right now?
@charlieliu007 2 жыл бұрын
That will not happen. Apple wants customers to buy two devices. Customers' convenience is not its consideration.
@jinraigami3349 2 жыл бұрын
M1 iPad Pro is held by the its OS.
@bobbyroberts2566 2 жыл бұрын
A crippled OS in an outstanding hardware.
@thewonderofyou1 2 жыл бұрын
And yet Windows is crap.. It'll run with all its laggy glory
@shankhanilsarkar2161 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, surface pro is a real pro cause it runs a full fledged WINDOWS OS... We can do everything on windows.. On top of that, now Windows 11 supports android apps too 😍😍
@thewonderofyou1 2 жыл бұрын
@@shankhanilsarkar2161 who cares... Windows is bloated junk
@shankhanilsarkar2161 2 жыл бұрын
@@thewonderofyou1 Ok, maybe that's why 75% of people across whole world are using windows.. (compared to that, 16% mac and iPad OS is nowhere) 😜
@ericoschmitt 2 жыл бұрын
If only the ipad could run MacOS with some kind of dual boot… An ipad can only be considered “pro” for artists. For every other profession windows/mac will work better. I’d still get a M1 Air or a full desktop windows PC over both of those tablets.
@DannysHauntedJourney 2 жыл бұрын
5:40 Incorrect. If you're using the Edge browser, you can input your credit card info for payment. You can also use your face for payment in the windows store. It's not as integrated as the iPad, but they can do the same thing, way back since the Pro 4 in 2015.
@510marlon 2 жыл бұрын
Salty. Apple is just better. They invented online payments.
@Stryker123321 2 жыл бұрын
@@510marlon apple invented online payments? not sure if you're trolling lmao
@510marlon 2 жыл бұрын
@@Stryker123321 lol. Of course I am.
@Stryker123321 2 жыл бұрын
@@510marlon oh i see lol
@papervws 2 жыл бұрын
but its not as secure as face id when it’s just visual authentication, it can be fooled much easier. i’d personally be scared to put my credit cards on that, whereas with face id i’m not worried
@adinchandra1797 2 жыл бұрын
It reminds me Funny Advertisement that I personally love. Watched it since July 2020
@lewotech 2 жыл бұрын
I think not everyone needs iPad Pro as a laptop replacement. It just needs to be the best in tablet stuff which it is.
@YourPoint1981 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. People just don’t get the iPad, no matter why they name it, is still a Tablet. I own a MacBook Pro, and the M1 iPad and neither can replace the other. I also still have the surface book 2. None of the 3 fully replaces the other.
@fancy3774 2 жыл бұрын
Surface pro is better at being both tablet and laptop. since Apple tried to do the same to iPad that is where the iPad laptop replacement started.
@tyrellhenry7649 2 жыл бұрын
@@fancy3774 trust me you dont have a touch screan foldable windows device if you say that, I had an ipad and it's a waay better tablet than a windows "tablet" more optimized apps mobile apps ipados is faster and has better apps
@tyrellhenry7649 2 жыл бұрын
@@fancy3774 I'm sorry but surface pro is completely ass at being a tablet please never say that again its literally a windows computer nothing else it's almost impossible to completely use it as an ipad that's why I never use it as an ipad
@fabsroomie 2 жыл бұрын
I bought the iPad pro 12.9 inch because I needed an exceptional tablet experience. I tried multiple tablets ( windows, Android, apple) and I have to admit I keep coming back to the iPad. I write a lot of notes and annotate articles and PowerPoint presentations every week for school so the iPad pro allows me to fully enjoy doing so. The other reason is that I have an exceptional PC laptop which runs all my statistical and analytical software which I have had since 2018 with the I7 -16gb ram configuration which is ultra portable and will be used until it decides to literally die on me. These two devices are my life and I use them everyday for different purposes. As a side note I did buy the zugu case for my ipad which I would absolutely recommend to everyone because with it I never have to worry about the protection of my ipad and my apple pencil unhinging itself. Those are my thoughts and reasons as to why I chose to purchase the iPad pro, however to answer the first part of the original question posed, the real pro device would be the surface pro 8 😊 Also to help support the premise that I'm not biased, I have a Windows PC laptop, Apple iPad Pro, and an Android phone and I wouldn't have it any other way 😉
@TheQuark6789 2 жыл бұрын
Ironically, Windows is both the greatest attraction and the greatest downside of the Surface Pro 8. I like Windows' ability to run any app, but I don't want it constantly questioning my decision with all its Edge, Bing, Office, etc BS.
@helly9015 2 жыл бұрын
wiat theres 2 of you guys, i always thought that you were 1 and the same guy lmao,
@maheshbh1 2 жыл бұрын
This comparison is like Apples vs Oranges. Sure, you added great points for the iPad but you forgot the key difference between the two. iPad is still running a mobile operating system, and Surface is on Desktop mode. You can't overlook this when making a fair comparison. Again it for the users to decide what they want. You saw iPad as winner, but I see Surface as a winner. Really it's a matter of people's needs.
@davidmorazasanchez6063 2 жыл бұрын
He literally finished the video saying exactly what you're saying 😂
@PLANETWATERMELON Жыл бұрын
@@davidmorazasanchez6063 yep
@PLANETWATERMELON Жыл бұрын
@@davidmorazasanchez6063 yep
@neliaironwood7573 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think its very fair to compare Surfaces to iPads; -One is running a desktop OS with keyboard/mouse while the other is running a mobile OS (mobile OSs tend to be more locked down compared to desktop OS) -The other is x86-based, and the iPad is ARM-based. -Even though Apple intends their iPads to compete with the Surfaces, I highly doubt that. The fairest comparison would be Samsung Galaxy Tabs, as that's only the actual iPad competitor. That's like comparing an AMD Epyc-powered workstation to the M1X MacBook Pro.
@ApexAshan 2 жыл бұрын
But we need comparisons like this for people unsure which to buy
@RoderickJMacdonald 2 жыл бұрын
Also, Apple chose to handicap the iPad Pro. Perhaps this Surface Pro will put some pressure on Apple marketing people to allow the engineers to work properly.
@JeannieCostanzo 2 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I need I have both on my desk right now seeing what works for me So thanks so much
@BortaMaga 2 жыл бұрын
It's a quite fair comparison tbh, both are high-performance "pro" level tablets people use for portable productivity on a tablet form-factor which is more compact than a laptop. Galaxy tab S would be a considerable competitor only if its specifications could come close to M1 and if it had more pro-level apps.
@msp5138 2 жыл бұрын
@@ApexAshan Why on earth would anyone rational human being get an iPad when a SP can do the same things AND more. There is a reason iPads unit sales have plummeted from 73 million in 2013 to 40 million in 2019...
@Kensinsword 2 жыл бұрын
You missed the most important point when comparing them, surface has a windows while ipad has a smartphone ios, so ipad can not be a pro by any means
@SanderEvers 2 жыл бұрын
Again, say it with me, AN IPAD IS NOT A LAPTOP. It will never be A LAPTOP. Comparing an iPad with a Surface (which IS a laptop) is just wrong. Using Windows with only touch input (not with pen and keyboard), which you didn't test, is horrible. Using an iPad with only touch input (not with pen and keyboard) is 1000x better. And yes, I've owned (and sold) the previous Surface Pro and I upgraded to an iPad Pro 11" with M1. Because it's the best tablet.
@WarAlex16 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. iPad is the best tablet but that's it.
@tristanmclaren8140 2 жыл бұрын
Yh I agree to and apple knows it too tbh they never been a company to make unnecessary products and if the iPad could do it all they wouldn’t bother making the MacBook however if you could go between Mac OS and iPad OS it would be even better than the surface pro
@HeyItsHades 2 жыл бұрын
The best thing about my 12.9 iPad Pro is that it’s the best tablet, in every way. But its also an amazing laptop. All these other companies are trying to turn laptops into tablets which just sucks because the OS isn’t designed properly for when you want to only use touch. However, apples approach of turning a tablet into a laptop makes much more sense. Touch interface first works with a mouse and keyboard but mouse and keyboard first doesn’t work with touch. As I said in another comment. I’m a full stack web developer and I switched away from Mac to my iPad Pro. I love it. There isn’t a single thing I can’t do with and when I’m planning stuff out it’s so nice to just pull it off the keyboard and write notes with the pencil and not feel like I’m losing functionality. Further, I have a Remote Desktop app that allows me to run windows, Linux, macOS, and remote into servers. There is literally zero lag even over cellular when I use this. It actually feels like I’m just using regular macOS, linux, or windows. Apple would have to come out with some truly industry destroying tech for me to ever go back to a laptop. Although I am looking at maybe getting the Mac mini m1X that supposed to come out in a week or so for a desktop setup as the one complaint I have about the iPad is that when plugged into a monitor it only mirrors the screen.
@hamzakassemi7072 2 жыл бұрын
Thank God someone realistic
@lumikera 2 жыл бұрын
the surface isn’t sold as only a laptop. it’s also sold as a tablet. so whatever that point you were trying to make was is totally pointless.
@wck0000 2 жыл бұрын
video👉ipad pro work👉surface pro
@mohamedfawzy3478 Жыл бұрын
I bought M1 ipad 2021 and used it for 1 year for study purposes however after using it day after day I started to realize its jut a big note for study with a huge limitation to use it in other purposes so i sold it last month and bought surface pro 8 and guess what i loved my new surface pro especially when i tried the new WSA from Microsoft which give me option to download all Android apps actually my advise to anyone who looking for studying working and entertainment machine go for surface One last thing i used a lot of Apple devices and after while i find huge limitations in software Thanks to all people here who encouraged me to buy surface
@LyntisMoten 2 жыл бұрын
I have both and I will continue to use both. I was unable to pick just one.
@alexanderlobo5570 2 жыл бұрын
Well, I do have an iPad M1 (which is nothing different from the 2018 pro model) and a Surface. In the end of the day, among several differences, even the M1 looking a little better, with the Surface I can replace my laptop, which is not the case with the iPad; and the killing thing for me is that I can use my 49” external display in full with the Surface, when with the iPad is a shame.🤷🏻♂️
@francobarbagallo8915 2 жыл бұрын
I got both Use the surface for work and all productivity and the iPad pretty much a a brick to watch KZfaq If they had Mac OS on iPad it would be incredible iPad os is useless
@Tom_Stevens617 2 жыл бұрын
Useless? iPadOS is literally the best software you can find in any tablet.
@pauL3gend 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tom_Stevens617 u said it right there Tablet, if MacOS was on this ipad, the comparison would be more apples to apples. Laptop replacement with tablet features on real programs vs IOS apps
@frankhu8692 2 жыл бұрын
Not eveyone pic ipad to do things u cannot, its not ipad's fault to be not tallented in writing, drawing, photo or video editing or using a pen, right? Plus surface is a nightmare if u use it as your main computer due to its buggy software and poor performance, despite its ok batterylife. iPad pro provides tablet capabilities and experiences that a laptop cannot achieve, along side with more additional laptop features, which cannot be fullfilled with a touchscreen windows pc. If what im all hyped about 2 in 1 is a touch screen pc, why surface? Why even bother getting an additional touch screen pc?
@frankhu8692 2 жыл бұрын
@@pauL3gend Not eveyone pic ipad to do things u cannot, its not ipad's fault to be not tallented in writing, drawing, photo or video editing or using a pen, right? Plus surface is a nightmare if u use it as your main computer due to its buggy software and poor performance, despite its ok batterylife. iPad pro provides tablet capabilities and experiences that a laptop cannot achieve, along side with more additional laptop features, which cannot be fullfilled with a touchscreen windows pc. If what im all hyped about 2 in 1 is a touch screen pc, why surface? Why even bother getting an additional touch screen pc?
@Tom_Stevens617 2 жыл бұрын
@@pauL3gend Um, yeah, the iPad Pro is ultimately a tablet. It's a touch-first, user-friendly device which super easy to navigate around and have fun with. That's the point of a tablet.
@Vain-Voyager 2 жыл бұрын
It's without questions I'll pick Surface Pro, 10 out of 10 times. An iPad is like a Ferrari engine in a Toyota. I can conduct an online lesson on Google Meet which shares my Microsoft Whiteboard screen while opening a Chrome checking for some information side by side as a background task. Most importantly, my Rode USB Mini is plugged in with its driver running *perfectly* on Windows OS. The Surface is really an AIO with all the things I need. It's never the hardware that an iPad user misses, but the full desktop experience. I think Apple knows it, but they just wish you to buy a Mac with an iPad instead of choosing one of them.
@harshini2207 2 жыл бұрын
watched 15 minutes of Max Tech video (a rare occurrence) to be met with exactly what I expected. Amazing video, great for those who didn't know about the pro-app problem with iPad Pro....
@tom8 2 жыл бұрын
Different devices, the keyboard is a necessity with the surface and a luxury with the iPad, the surface is a laptop pretending to be a tablet and the iPad is a tablet that pretends to be a laptop - that is all you need in the review
@joebloggs4191 2 жыл бұрын
Except the iPad isn't pretending to be a laptop that is just a fantasy that tech reviewers have about the iPad, it's a tablet and nothing but a tablet which though, has enough computing ability for the needs for the average user who do not need to use any 'niche' software.
@user-nq5wd6oj5u 2 жыл бұрын
What brings me the performance of the iPad pro when I can't use it. In my opinion the surface pro 8 is a better choice because of the pro level software on it and you can do much more professional worklflow. But if the iPad would have MacOS, I would definitely go with it.
@HeyItsHades 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a full stack web developer, switched from max to iPad Pro 12.9. There isn’t a single thing I can’t do with my iPad that I could do with my Mac. Did I have to switch up my workflow a bit? Surer, for example there is no VSCode on the iPad but I found IDEs that I actually like more on the App Store. And with my Remote Desktop app I can use windows, Linux, or macOS anytime I want and I haven’t noticed any lag. iPad is definitely the way to go because M1, battery life, Apple Pencil, but really the most important reason : the default OS isn’t windows.
@user-nq5wd6oj5u 2 жыл бұрын
@@HeyItsHades I just want the Windows experience and for most of us out there it has more features then the iPad.
@thewonderofyou1 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-nq5wd6oj5u I hate Windows... It's crap
@Tom_Stevens617 2 жыл бұрын
The iPad appeals to more people with its simplistic and user-friendly UI though.
@thewonderofyou1 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tom_Stevens617 yeah instead of laggy, bloated, slow Windows...
@Pharto_Stinkus 2 жыл бұрын
The surface PRO is a LAPTOP that PROfessionals can use to do PROfessional stuff. The iPad pro is a really fancy tablet
@invisibleunicorn3337 2 жыл бұрын
ToyPad "Pro" - a fun but quite expensive device for media consumption and web browsing.
@giftbox-e 2 жыл бұрын
I know this wont be a good comparison but, the price for iPad Pro 12.9 maxed out specs including the keyboard + pen is almost the same with Microsoft laptop studio. Which I would choose it over ipad pro. Unless I would buy the base ipad pro.
@brianstone4549 2 жыл бұрын
The headphone jack is kind of important I can't even knock that depending on the content you do.
@harrym8556 2 жыл бұрын
The surface runs a full operating system. The ipad runs a toddler operating system, you cannot install a complete program, it does not even get close to the utility of the surface.
@DouglasMcLaurin 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed you video! The iPad Pro seems like a great device...but I definitively could not use one for my day-to-day use. One thing you could have touched on is that you can buy an external GPU and connect it to the Surface Pro to increase your graphical capacity. Also, the new Surface Pen's haptic feedback is amazing.
@warfriend5997 2 жыл бұрын
No one can beat up the pro…the legendary iPad pro
@evansenudinisu4521 2 жыл бұрын
@Patrick and you need to be foolish to buy an iPad pro
@ziperixlolhighlights8911 2 жыл бұрын
@@evansenudinisu4521 blind hater
@blueciffer1653 2 жыл бұрын
lol it runs ios while the surface runs a full desktop system.
@Stryker123321 2 жыл бұрын
@Patrick doesn't change the fact that the surface pro beats the ipad in being a real laptop lmao
@Stryker123321 2 жыл бұрын
@Patrick maybe if Apple has a touch capable mac OS device i'd consider it.
@zetroc88 2 жыл бұрын
The iPad Pro with all its M1 power is still a device that can't even provide wide-screen support on an external monitor. A pro device it is not in fact you'd hook up the iPad to the surface to back it up to iTunes.
@NicksTech 2 жыл бұрын
I think the Surface is the pro device. Soon to come ability for Android app’s will level the playing field. It felt more like you were bashing on the Surface than comparing. Speed is not everything. Windows still allows programs to run, has better file management and more useful for business use.
@bovineox1111 3 ай бұрын
5116 - plugged in. Nice to see it did as well unplugged. Good job testing that.
@jacobrichards3728 2 жыл бұрын
That ultra wide selfie though, haha!
@SirChickenMcNuggetTheThird 2 жыл бұрын
The Ipad should get a zoom camera, like 3x, so it would be perfect for Students, taking photos from the board in best quality.
@bluetreakrs 2 жыл бұрын
Lol facts
@superninja2022 2 жыл бұрын
Why can't you use iPhone to take photos?
@iGeoboy 2 жыл бұрын
The iPad is amazing But it’s still an iPad. Apple really needs to add macOS on iPad. Why have an M1 processor and you’re never going to use it to its full potential. Windows isn’t exciting but the surface is a portable computer/tablet. Each side wins but apple really needs to make a proper iPad Pro.
@ben_bot7289 2 жыл бұрын
Hope you guys get to 1 million subscribers. you're videos are always really well done. :)
@Stay-hard 2 жыл бұрын
To answer this question , I have decided to buy all two of those .
@sibusisokevin 2 жыл бұрын
Almost a million subscribers 👌🏽
@davids5257 2 жыл бұрын
When will you learn that the comparison between Benchmark results of different platforms is meaningless. Most often in the workflow itself you will find it. And not in such tests.
@Gusbus001 2 жыл бұрын
I bought an ipad air which I would use as a second monitor for my 15" Razer blade. The ipad air screen was indeed small for a second display but serviceable. Despite that, I decided to return it and buy a surface pro 8. The reason was because: A. the surface pro 8 was a fully functional pc which I needed as a backup for my razer. I work from home doing architecture and if my Razer fails, I cant be left without a backup compute. B. the 13" display is more comfortable than the 10.8" of ipad air. A second monitor is necessary for my workflow. C. I also get a tablet with the surface pro just like the ipad air except with more utility. The ipad air and even the pro is really just an oversized iphone if we are being honest. You can't really work off it if you do anything past graphic design and Microsoft word. The surface pro 8 ticks all my boxes.
@cystarkman 2 жыл бұрын
obviously it is the surface pro. it has an operating system that allows you to use its capabilities.
@mitchell10394 2 жыл бұрын
I really hope that in the coming years the iPad Pro will have a bootcamp style option that lets you use full MacOs. I would be fine with 256gb allocated to each OS or something like that... I sold my iPad Pro and got the MacBook Air (just got the MacBook Pro which I'm excited for) because I just couldn't stand not having MacOs for work.
@shim2822 2 жыл бұрын
Apple will never do that, it's would kill MacBook...
@wooferjr169 2 жыл бұрын
Let's be real, the majority of iPad pro users only watch Netflix on it.
@gamingdragon1356 2 жыл бұрын
That is what it is intended for.
@emmakolff3744 2 жыл бұрын
I got an ipad mini..it's for amazon prime and apple tv 😂
@bosenngantor9160 2 жыл бұрын
@@gamingdragon1356 LOL
@mini9503 2 жыл бұрын
Actually I got mine for watching 4K Blu-Ray rips. I believe the 12" iPad is the first portable device to be able to watch proper HDR without being plugged in to a wall. Local HDR processing drains battery life like crazy, but it's worth it for me.
@gamingdragon1356 2 жыл бұрын
@@mini9503 I don't like iOS but I like the hardware quality of Apple products.
@jessedominguez9 2 жыл бұрын
I own both and as great as the M1 iPad Pro is, I still need to have an actual computer for computer work. Now, for tablet type work ie media consumption, checking email, social media, I prefer the iPad Pro, easily. The SP8 in tablet model is inferior to the iPad Pro. I love them both for what they are good at. IF I had to have ONE device between these two, the SP8 wins only bc it's a full blown computer.
@Aeonikst8 2 жыл бұрын
I have found that iPad os is a joy to use on iPad mini. Not a pro device but very useful. If I were choosing one device it would be surface pro.
@artin87 2 жыл бұрын
iPad is still a giant iPhone !
@roscodotemmas 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@DerVagabundli 2 жыл бұрын
As always it comes down to use case. If you want a powerful, ultra portable all in one device you can use as a tablet and then later dock on your desk, add 2 monitors and a proper mouse, SSD, peripherals like audio interfaces etc... The iPad just becomes utterly useless, despite how nice of a device it it.
@michaelyd4073 2 жыл бұрын
Funny comparison, I connected to my Surface two Displays, I am running Visual Studio 2019, Cubase 11, Sound cards , make a very professional recordings, MS Office, All Adobe applications. Zoom, OBS Studio..................................? Can you do all of those with iPad?
@onion2787 2 жыл бұрын
No BuT mY iPaD hOlDs Up GrEaT aS a ToIlEt MaChInE
@FlorinMC 2 жыл бұрын
First I want to thank you for how you do that comparisons on your vlog, displays, speakers, keyboards, performance... You are the best on KZfaq. But I have a complain: why do you use every-time the base model on Microsoft products? I love iPad hardware, and when they release it with M1, I think is come with macOS and full support for touch screens, but... In my opinion is better to install windows on that iPad if Apple can’t make macOS with support for touch screens. I really don’t understand apple! If I remember windows got support for touchscreens from 20 years ago, when they release widows xp. macOS today is living in the past! iPad is nice but no ''pro'', it’s just a toy and cost 2500 bucks with keyboard and pen, to do what? Notes, watch KZfaq, GarageBand mobile app...? By far surface pro is the best choice. You can use Photoshop, Resolve, Premier, Cubase, Ableton Live, Reason, ProTools, Office desktop, notes, drawing, Lightroom, gaming with eGPU, full support for Bluetooth keyboards and real mice, Xbox wireless controllers... That’s a PRO, not iPad!
@alexnguyen4081 2 жыл бұрын
Having owned a previous version of the surface pro, I was hoping Microsoft would make improvements to the battery life. 4-6 Hours on typical usage case? That's extremely disappointing and probably the major deal breaker for this type of product. Sure the Ipad is limited to software, but the Surface Pro is more so hardware by Intel. Only when Microsoft learns to drop Intel in favor of Arm or AMD will the Surface Pro line be worth looking at. For context, my 2017 SP was also rated at this 4-5 hours screen on time but with a dual core i7. It ran hot, battery degraded significantly, and simple tasks would pushed cpu usage to 100% (2 core,4threads,8gb ram).
@Stryker123321 2 жыл бұрын
Idk how this dude tested the batt life, but on other reviews they last around 8 and half hours on 60hz while web browsing/watching videos and 7 and a half on 120 hz
@ryanf1192 2 жыл бұрын
two devices with two different operating system, I think they are both good for different group of person. Lots of work could be done on Windows; however, I love how smooth Mac/iPad OS it is.
@LONELY069 2 жыл бұрын
Really helpful tips and amazing comparison,,thanks
@jno8039 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I will wait for a Surface Pro 9 for a better energy saving. My ipad Pro is pretty useless without any pro apps
@ketandudhe2754 2 жыл бұрын
In terms of battery life, Microsoft can literally say "120 hurts" :')
@Baer9471 2 жыл бұрын
I mean the iPad also have 120 Hz
@JMiras-so8gj 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, top comment. That's my only real complaint with the surface. Something they haven't changed, nor want to.
@BlizzardWind99 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, if they keep using Intel of course... Microsoft really needs an arm to compete M1... Rumor says Microsoft is working with AMD on creating arm for the next surface arm that's why there were no arm surface except for the Duo using SD
@ItsWoadie 2 жыл бұрын
We need the next iPad to come with a new OS. Maybe called iMac OS, lol. We need it to ship with MacOS just a tablet version called iMac OS For iPads. Then this tablet would be unstoppable.
@user-kx6vh7cn7k 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! It's really helpfull for people choosing these macbooks!
@williamgorelander8290 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the detailed video. I agree. The iPad Pro will never be pro because it can't run pro apps - plain and simple. Apple needs to stop being stubborn, and merge iPad and MacOS. Microsoft who have been mostly a software company, has proved it can be done and I admire them for this despite being an Apple guy. I love my iPad Pro because of the option to use touch, the FaceID and Apple Pencil, but I have to run minimalistic apps in order to be productive. It's beyond disappointing and makes me want to go back to Windows. Some deal breakers with the Surface Pro when it was mentioned in the video mostly come from the display. Already I find the iPad Pro difficult to see when working outside, and I can't stand reflective glare of glossy screens. The Apple Pencil for me is great, and I think the Surface pen is more latent when you draw which would drive me crazy.
@TheT3rr0rMask 2 жыл бұрын
I mean I don’t see much reason to compare. They’re each such different things: Surface has a desktop OS, iPad has a mobile one. This gives each their strengths and weaknesses as tools. Apple shouldn’t advertise the Pro as a “laptop replacement” cus it only can be one to an extent. iPad is a better media consumption device, partially cus of the mobile app availability (but Windows 11 will catch up with Android support). Surface’s issue comes from MS trying so hard to make Windows a mobile OS which it never will be; can run any program you need but kinda awful with its tablet interface. No native mobile apps was an issue but that’s ending now. With the iPads using M1 Apple really needs to release iOS versions of their pro software or else iPads will feel even more limited than they already do compared to Windows.
@gamingdragon1356 2 жыл бұрын
The main issue with surface is that there are laptops available. I don't see why someone would buy a tablet over a laptop. The best surface product was the surface book and Microsoft murdered it for no reason.
@TheT3rr0rMask 2 жыл бұрын
@@gamingdragon1356 yup it gave the best of both worlds. Laptop Studios pretty cool but not a good enough replacement imo
@msp5138 2 жыл бұрын
@@gamingdragon1356 Because there is no laptop that is a small, light, portable, powerful, and versatile as a Surface Pro. Who want to carry a laptop and laptop bag around when traveling if you can take a tablet. You clearly are not a mobile professional or business person.
@fraelitecagnin7628 2 жыл бұрын
0:32 What's this plug-in issue?
@naomihalliday-cox6614 2 жыл бұрын
What are the charging specs for the iPad Pro vs the Surface? That is, what are the minimum and maximum wattages required to charge each of these devices? Can you use an external power bank and if so what are the minimum wattages required for the power bank? Does a power bank exist that will charge each or either of these devices? Thanks for the great videos!
@SW-fy8pq 2 жыл бұрын
I would buy both.
@kristiankaraneshev7528 2 жыл бұрын
I dont think this is a fair comparison, the one is a fully functional windows workstation where you can use pro apps such as the full versions of lightroom and photoshop etc, the other is just fancy screen with iphone apps.
@danielhenderson8316 2 жыл бұрын
The problem is Apple positions these as competitors. As long as Apple tries to make believe that the iPad Pro is a laptop replacement, these are going to be competitors.
@pixelpusher1393 2 жыл бұрын
The iPad Pro has nowhere to go with all it´s power, courtesy of iPad OS. Therefore, "Future proofing" is a self defeating point, b/c no one knows what apps will be available in the future for iPad OS. Besides, step up to i7 configurations with the SP8 and it´ll be very close to the iPad. The display of the iPad Pro is gorgeous and one of it´s main advantages. Apple is hurting themselves in the long run by keeping the MacOS and iPadOS Worlds separate.
@dinkarfowkar999 2 жыл бұрын
True iPad costs more and is rubbish
@jeanbaptistelabelle 2 жыл бұрын
@@dpptd30 cool. Can I edit my photo with Capture One Pro like every normal photographer hobbist on the iPad and all its power? No? Only Affinity Photo and similar limited app? Can I have my Excel file for loudspeaker enclosure calculation with a Macro? No? Can I have the table of content on my Word essay, no? Well, at least, the Geekbench score is good, I guess it must matter to some people...
@pixelpusher1393 2 жыл бұрын
@@dpptd30 Well, thanks! My point was about the availability of desktop apps for the iPad Pro, so "No desktop app support" says it all. Your help is appreciated! BTW: An app which drains energy faster than can be drawn from the well sounds like a good selling point! How about a crippled Photoshop? Or no serious RAW converters besides Lightroom mobile - which forces you into Adobes coercion scheme? Or a limit of 5Gb RAM per app? The fact of the matter is, apparently the SP8 delivers what the iPad Pro has promised.
@manny5310 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly for me it comes down to software and comparability with apps that are used in a office space. Word, excel, and ppt the full version that are needed sometimes for college courses make the surface pro 8 the better options again for ME. I the iPad is amazing for what it is but it too expensive for too little.
@erinvaid2833 2 жыл бұрын
Thank goodness I watched this, I have the surface pro 8 with all the bits and bobs including a separate hub for all HDMI projectors, USB and card slot. You did forget to mention the extra USB port in the charger I love that feature! overall I did only get this as it has windows 11. I did a price comparison and the surface came in at $2100 AUD with all the extras apple was $2700 AUD with similar adaptors! I figured I have the iPhone for the camera and other features the Ipad pro has, so the surface won for me hands down.
@Orca774 2 жыл бұрын
M1 is overkill for everything except genshin impact. It struggles at 120 fps.
@teachingwithipad 2 жыл бұрын
RAM cap
@bryanmiller476 2 жыл бұрын
@@teachingwithipad that’s been changed recently
@SAMURAI-xe6gn 2 жыл бұрын
@@bryanmiller476 Yes. The M1 iPad Pro now features 16GB RAM on 1TB and higher versions and 8GB RAM on 512GB and lower versions.
@bobjordan5597 2 жыл бұрын
Very impressive still, as even at lowest settings in runs the game at a much higher resolution than any other mobile device
@bobjordan5597 2 жыл бұрын
@Muhammad Ehtasam Because it’s playing the game at 1600p at max settings? That’s 4x the resolution as it does on iPhone bro.
@conghaoxu7344 2 жыл бұрын
Great device, but I'd wait until the 12th Gen Intel mobile processors to upgrade my 5-year-old Surface Pro 4 that's used totally as a tablet since I lost the typecover. Based on the current performance tests, the CPUs on Surface Pro 9 models could come a huge step closer towards M1, with all of its juice used in full and significantly longer battery time.
@ramama987 2 жыл бұрын
True, I also use my SP4 since it came out, and I can't believe that it is THAT old. I bought the top of the notch one at the time, and it still runs stuff with no problems. I would suggest buying a keyboard. I have done the same, so now I have two. And I replaced the battery for it, so it's like new again. That's why I'm still hesitant on upgrading :D literally no need to do it.
@vullord666 2 жыл бұрын
From what I've already heard about 2022 improvements and seen, 2023 will be the year for non apple users to upgrade.
@ramama987 2 жыл бұрын
Nevermind, asus just dropped their Z13. Just noticed it, definitely an upgrade.
@AmrDesu 2 жыл бұрын
Actully you talk about everything it was best comparison ever thank you for high quality content ♥️
@ivvikers5677 Жыл бұрын
on Windows, I can run Heroes 3, a lot of games, AutoCAD, any office programs, fully download files and have a normal file system. And all this is almost in your pocket. Apple is good as a consumer of content: KZfaq, apple store, quick photo editing (not a pro), video viewing... actually, that's all. And microsoft gives you the opportunity to run anything! Any program! What else is there to talk about?
@dinkarfowkar999 2 жыл бұрын
The Surface is much better as the file manager is much better and more ports and its cheaper
@wellszhou8286 2 жыл бұрын
It's defintely not cheaper, it is actually even more overpriced then Apple's M1 iPad Pro as it has terrible battery at 120 hertz compared to iPads and it doesn't have adaptive and the screen is even worse then an 11 inch M1 iPad Pro so the 11 inch M1 iPad Pro is defintely the one that I find offer more value but just need a bundle like M1 iPad Pro 11 inch with Magic Keyboard and Apple Pencil 2 for 1000 dollars which would defintely be a great price to pay and also with a file manager and other software limitations that need to be lifted
@Stryker123321 2 жыл бұрын
@@wellszhou8286 It's actually cheaper to get the surface cause you get both a laptop and a tablet and won't have to buy a macbook separately for actual productive work lol.
@wellszhou8286 2 жыл бұрын
@@Stryker123321 No, I would prefer the Macbook Air M1 then iPads or Surface anyways, iPad Pro can be used to do heavy gaming like triple AAA quality gaming instead of creating their own console like the PS5
@ghaleon84 2 жыл бұрын
@@wellszhou8286 you can play last big game on iPad Pro and Mac m1 ? NO, sp8 YES!
@Stryker123321 2 жыл бұрын
lol triple AAA gaming quality on an ipad??, like GTA SA? LMAO
@michaeldyer6378 2 жыл бұрын
Apple really are limiting the Ipads Pro. I think giving it a full functional OS would kill the lower end Mac Book or Mac book Air.
@seBcopTer 2 жыл бұрын
And the surface!
@AleySoundz 2 жыл бұрын
I really don't understand why though. Why don't they want more people buying Ipads? Why are they limiting the functionality?
@WuzzaWombat 2 жыл бұрын
@@AleySoundz what’s not to understand? It would not be financially smart for apple to give iPads the same capabilities as the MacBooks because then no one would buy them and thus apple would be losing money
@makaveli559m Жыл бұрын
You should make a review of the iPad Pro running iPad OS 16.1 comparing it with the Surface Pro.
@Russeljrjs 2 жыл бұрын
I'll go for the Surface Pro myself. I can do a lot more with Windows compared to iPadOS. Plus the fact that TECHNICALLY, an external GPU will make the Surface one hell of a beast.
@Carboxylated 2 жыл бұрын
he surface wins simply because its running windows purely...meaning anything can be installed on this that can be installed on a regular PC...IE: Editing software (the good kind, not tablet NLE's), color grading software, games and more. M1 iPad is powerful but it is limited by Apple's closed and controlled eco system. Surface Pro 8 all day baby.
@Tom_Stevens617 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, it really depends on what you're looking for. The Surface Pro is a professional mobile computer, while the iPad Pro is a high-end yet user-friendly tablet.
@kaberigomes2117 2 жыл бұрын
Windows is not touch friendly yet. While ipad is specifically apps designed for touch. These are general points while both are really good devices. So to each his own preference.
@derkugelblitz3437 2 жыл бұрын
@@kaberigomes2117 lying
@kaberigomes2117 2 жыл бұрын
@@derkugelblitz3437 Lying what exactly ? And more importantly for what? KZfaq likes on my comment? 🤦🏻♂️
@nsbrandhouse9443 2 жыл бұрын
@@derkugelblitz3437 no he is not many of iPad apps are indeed compatible with touch,keyboard and mouse
@swiftyedits4067 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, that mic quality on the Surface...so overcompressed
@whothefcukrmutd2008 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a Dalek #exterminate
@ArtWITHMe400 2 жыл бұрын
I just bought the M1 12.9 inch iPad Pro and I’m not changing for 3 years then i might get a different device
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