Mazda 3 and 6 2.3 to 2.5 Fusion swap part 1

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Rickkari7

Rickkari7

5 жыл бұрын

See video part 6 to get finished swap and commentary on how it ran with original intake verses running the Fusion intake I did on prior swap. Swapped a 2.5 Fusion into this 2007 Mazda6. Technical information for those attempting this. Watch all the videos in this series to get the play by play as I learned some things along the way on this one. This is the second Fusion swap I've done. Previously did one on a '04 3 with a 5 speed manual trans. See my thread on Mazda3 forum entitled 2.3 to 2.5 swap in progress. www.mazda3forums.com/799-intr...
A lot of good info and links to other threads in it.
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@alexander0125
@alexander0125 2 жыл бұрын
We're going to attempt this swap but on a '08 Mazda5 Auto(the minivan). Some guys said the Mazda5 is basically a Mazda3 with sliding doors. Thank you for the info and detailed descriptions and references
@montewilhelm1958
@montewilhelm1958 2 жыл бұрын
Hey wanted to say thanks for your efforts in making these videos. I have 2k on a low mileage Fusion motor, runs great, strong, a vast improvement. Mileage is less than hoped for 25 - 35 with winter blend fuel, but definitely more fun. Thanks again to you and others(videos) for the confidence to do this.
@EvlEgle
@EvlEgle 3 жыл бұрын
191k on my turbo 2.3 no complaints 👌
@bubbajo9089
@bubbajo9089 3 жыл бұрын
I truly love these videos im tryna put a 2.5 in my 2004 mazda 3 either that or a k20 but im seeinh the fusion engines are easier
@Americanflippers
@Americanflippers 2 жыл бұрын
Super informative
@kirkyyz438
@kirkyyz438 Жыл бұрын
Hi how are u love your work
@DSUJpMn23
@DSUJpMn23 4 жыл бұрын
Man, so far your videos have been the most helpful that I found. I’m currently in the process of swapping a 2.5 in my ‘06 Mazda5. Not gonna lie, I don’t have much mechanical experience & really could use some help with how to get the 2.3 out. Tried to look for you post on the forums but not having much luck. Any way I could email you or something?
@Rickkari7
@Rickkari7 4 жыл бұрын
I don't pull the engine out as a unit. I use the car like an engine stand. I pull the intake, exhaust manifold, and accessories off and swing things out of the way or completely remove them and basically pull the long block out alone like the video when it is on the stand. That is what I finally pull out. If it is a manual I pull it out the top with the trans connected. Did that on a Mazda 3.
@DSUJpMn23
@DSUJpMn23 4 жыл бұрын
Rickkari7 ok, maybe I’ll go at it that way. I appreciate your insight.
@DSUJpMn23
@DSUJpMn23 4 жыл бұрын
Rickkari7 I did it! Got the motor out today. Seeing how you decided to approach it really inspired me to do the same. Definitely going to be watching each one of these videos to help me with the rest of process. Thanks for documenting what you did it certainly helped me out!
@sebastianmuskovic8945
@sebastianmuskovic8945 2 жыл бұрын
Super grateful to you for documenting this swap on video for all of us. thank you. I blew the motor in my 2006 2.3l mazda 3 and just want to be certain that a 2013-2016 2.5l fusion motor will work so I thought I would ask here. I am aware of the larger vct solenoid on later models but am I ok to look at 2.5l ford duratec motors all the way to 2016? Or do I need to stick with 2010-2012?
@Rickkari7
@Rickkari7 2 жыл бұрын
All the way to at least 2018 maybe '19 will work to my knowledge. I put a 2015 Fusion in my 04 Mazda 3 with the first swap I did. Just had to swap the necessary parts to make it work.
@marcinka5865
@marcinka5865 2 жыл бұрын
Do you happen to know if this can be done to 2.0 mazda 3 2007? Could you please tell me which components from my stock 2.0 I would have to use? I assume oil pan, timing cover, those tube with old style clamps and...? Vvt solenoid? What about that intake Because I didn't quite get you There? Than you in advance for help. Much appreciated.
@monicocarrera4434
@monicocarrera4434 4 жыл бұрын
May be a dumb question but have you ever or do you know , if it's possible to put a 2.5 into a 2.3 fusion 5 speed?
@michaelmorris162
@michaelmorris162 2 жыл бұрын
Actually the 2.3 isn't junk there's many things you can do with that motor and 3rd gear will run down a 2016 5.0 mustang with all 3 of my kids eyes popping out there heads saying some shit lemme tell you and we're a family of gear heads and musicians that 5.0 had 1 person.... that's not doing so well there yeah he left me sitting then I ran him down and we did it multiple times run after run after run same thing except once i freid the TCM... nothin new that happens alot when you have heavy foot I highly recommend one but I have no ac and all kinds of stuff done I used to be a mustang nut and before that a 80s turbododge nut so I've had some very fast toys this is reliable
@vikome
@vikome 3 жыл бұрын
Good afternoon. And did not try to mazda to put the engine ecoboost 2.3 или 2,0
@moospeed813
@moospeed813 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 2011 Ford Fusion with 2.5L and a 6speed manual. I'm trying to find an LSD for my fusion but I heard that the Speed3 transmission that has an OEM LSD installed can be bolt-on for my 2.5L Duratec.
@Rickkari7
@Rickkari7 4 жыл бұрын
It can bolt up to the block. People put 2.5 Fusion engine short blocks in speed3's. Don't know about the rest of the bolt up as far as mounts, axles etc. I'm sure you can get facts on a internet search.
@vanquishstorm3806
@vanquishstorm3806 2 жыл бұрын
Hello. I have a 2010 Mazda 3 S 2.5L mated to a 2002-2008 Mazda 6 transmission that utilizes the dog bone rear strut torque mount but the part that attaches to the subframe bracing is for a non-dogbone mount since it's a 2010 Mazda 3, is there anyway to securely fasten the two connecting points together? The strut torque mount that is designed for a Mazda 3 (non dog bone) transmission cant be attached. Any input would be greatly appreciated as the transmission is jerking when driving.
@Rickkari7
@Rickkari7 2 жыл бұрын
No clue. Try asking on Mazda3 forum.
@corbana4743
@corbana4743 5 ай бұрын
The fusion engine you use out of what year ford is it please. Trying to do a 2007 Mazda 6 swap so what years ford fusion will fit the 2007 Mazda 6? Thx
@Rickkari7
@Rickkari7 5 ай бұрын
Any Fusion 2.5 up to like 2017 or 2018.
@mainboss2253
@mainboss2253 11 ай бұрын
Hey when you did the engine swap and did everything. Did it run a bit rough in the beginning? Also did you have to run it 200 miles for the ecu to relearn itself?
@Rickkari7
@Rickkari7 11 ай бұрын
Both swaps I did ran good from the beginning.
@mainboss2253
@mainboss2253 11 ай бұрын
@@Rickkari7My car jerks every time I switch gears. Also when it idles the rpm’s jump from 200-500
@Rickkari7
@Rickkari7 11 ай бұрын
@@mainboss2253 do you have a check engine light and fault codes? If so, that should lead to something. If not, I would check basics like timing, vacuum leaks, connections etc…
@mainboss2253
@mainboss2253 3 ай бұрын
My A/C compressor went out, and I did the 2.5 swap on my 06, do I buy the A/C compressor for the 2.3 engine ? Or the 2.5?
@Rickkari7
@Rickkari7 3 ай бұрын
Get the one for the car designated for a 2.3.
@Meowster89
@Meowster89 4 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking of doing this to my Mazda6i 2008 2.3.l automatic. I'd love for you to work on mine. Would this be possible? I'm located in Los Angeles. Not sure where you are.
@michaelmorris162
@michaelmorris162 2 жыл бұрын
Put a header on it 2.5 mandrel bent exhaust no cat all the way out the back no ac completely remove it it's belt and everything to do with it trash the entire intake tubing setup get a cold air and a 3inch k&n airfilter and get it to land where the fog light hole is and remove the fog light but before putting it in pull the intake manifold and very thoroughly clean it out with 2+2 carb cleaner very very good then brake them little flaps off that metal bar in each intake runner hole pull the throttle body and clean that bad boy till it looks like new on both sides bolt it back on the intake and the intake back on the car hook everything back up with the cold air intake new coilpacks and e3 sparkplug an the final touch mod the crank sensor it is adjustable adjust till you hear a small increase in idle if you hear a ticking slide it back some the opposite direction till it goes away it gives it a small kick to it all and it's pretty quick 3rd 4th gear are pretty wicked 1st is a tire burner and that an auto it holds together for about a yr and a half but the trans don't like that kinda power so much and the tqconverter bolts will back off randomly nomatter what you use on them... it will snap axles motor mounts I recommend aftermarket I could only find for the pass side though that's the motor side I couldn't find the other side wich is the transmission upper mount thats what holds all the weight of the motor and trans them 2 specific mounts a 3rd is in the rear of the trans i have used stock I'm on my 2nd 1 in 4 yrs but I run it from time to time she's kinda fast especially once you start taking seats out and lower it and all that wich I did
@joshuatorres9151
@joshuatorres9151 2 жыл бұрын
Do you know if it's possible to swap a regular 2.0 to a 2.5?
@Rickkari7
@Rickkari7 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. The 2.5 can go in a 2.0 or 2.3 Mazda 3.
@marklewallen9129
@marklewallen9129 Жыл бұрын
Just another question, I pulled a 2.3 out of an '07 Mazda 6 replaced it with a 2011 Ford fusion 2.5. I paid close attention to the details I ordered. That adapter plate. Only thing I have a question about is I could not change out the VVT cam solenoid because it was completely different as far as heights related and everything else. And I didn't want to fool with rednecking that gasket that was a different size. That being said, I did reuse the 2.5 valve cover. There is a extra sensor of some sort dead center in the middle of this head that the 2.3 did not have. Will this run without it or will this cause an issue?
@Rickkari7
@Rickkari7 Жыл бұрын
That's the cylinder head temp sensor that Ford uses. You can just remove it.
@marklewallen9129
@marklewallen9129 Жыл бұрын
@@Rickkari7 greatly appreciate your time and feedback
@mainboss2253
@mainboss2253 Жыл бұрын
How’s it running ? I might have to do a engine swap soon so im curious on how it’s running
@marklewallen9129
@marklewallen9129 6 ай бұрын
​@@mainboss2253 personally I think it runs great and there's definitely a power increase notice.
@mainboss2253
@mainboss2253 Жыл бұрын
I’m doing a swap on my mazda 6 06 but I’m doing a Mzr 2.5 swap instead of a ford one. Will the swap be a direct swap since it’s the Mzr ? Or what will I need to change?
@Rickkari7
@Rickkari7 Жыл бұрын
Don’t know. Just compare them on a stand and swap what needs to be swapped. Guessing a lot of the things in these videos will apply, especially the intake difference. The long block is the same whether Mzr or Ford.
@jasonapex2865
@jasonapex2865 4 жыл бұрын
So I have a 2006 Mazda 5 (almost identical to a 3) that has a 2.3 and manual trans. I’m going to 2.5 swap it, is there a preferred year fusion to get the 2.5 from?
@Rickkari7
@Rickkari7 4 жыл бұрын
The lower the miles the better regardless of year. You do not have to mess with the intake cam because yours is 2006. Your swap will be the same as these videos. Check the videos as I can't recall now, but older Fusion 2.5's allow for straight valve cover swap because of the same size VVT solenoid. The newer Fusion engines require that the seal be swapped like I did in one of the videos. Everything else requires the same part swaps no matter what.
@jasonapex2865
@jasonapex2865 4 жыл бұрын
Rickkari7 thanks! As far as I know I will be the only one with a 2.5 swapped Mazda 5, should be a fun little mini van
@marklewallen9129
@marklewallen9129 Жыл бұрын
Ok so I'm mid way through this and I don't have that intake adapter plate so I thought I'd just join the form page and see your modified 2.5 intake. My factory 2.3 has butterflies in the ports, as well as the throttle body bolt patter is way different. How do I fix this ? Mazda is 2007 mazda 6 (2.3 ) Motor is a 2011 Ford fusion.
@Rickkari7
@Rickkari7 Жыл бұрын
You can get a adapter plate on Ebay for $56.19. This is the route I would go. Then you just use all of the original stuff and, in my opinion, it runs better than using the Ford intake. www.ebay.com/itm/184223114460?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=ZekylVX8Sh-&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=4q3SzkzKQF2&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
@marklewallen9129
@marklewallen9129 Жыл бұрын
@@Rickkari7 awesome thanks.
@cshute2130
@cshute2130 Жыл бұрын
Would the bellhousing line up for a 5spd mt to a 2006-2012 fusion? Was going to use a 14 fusion 2.5 but was informed the bellhousing bolts wouldnt line up, and i was suspicious because i hadnt seen this problem for anyone on the forums, wondering if the 14 changed.
@cshute2130
@cshute2130 Жыл бұрын
5sp mt from a 2007 mazda6 2.3 na
@Rickkari7
@Rickkari7 Жыл бұрын
Should line up on any 2.5. I did a personal swap on my mt 2004 mazda 3 with a 2015 fusion automatic engine with no issues. Don't know where that info came from. Got to make sure you install a new pilot bearing into crankshaft of new 2.5 auto engine you use.
@cshute2130
@cshute2130 Жыл бұрын
@@Rickkari7thank you sir
@josephwatts157
@josephwatts157 13 күн бұрын
Is this possible with a gen2 Skyactiv an what transmission is best to use ??
@Rickkari7
@Rickkari7 13 күн бұрын
Transmission choice is up to what you prefer. Skyactiv are direct injection so the head is different. Not sure about the short block, but believe they have different compression ratio. Basically this works for the regular port fuel injected 2.0 and 2.3 cars to use a 2.5 port injected engine in it's place. I would check out Mazda 3 forum and other internet sources to get a definitive on where the skyactiv would fit in all of this. As far as swapping a later skyactiv drivetrain into a older Mazda 3, that would be a upgrade. I'm sure someone has done it which would involve computer and harness swap too as well as other mods or parts from the donor car.
@mainboss2253
@mainboss2253 Жыл бұрын
How has that adapter plate been holding up? I need to get one also but was just wondering if it’s been working good
@Rickkari7
@Rickkari7 Жыл бұрын
As far as I know. I haven’t seen that car in a couple of years. I work at a new shop. There is no reason it shouldn’t hold up. The one I installed was metal. I would go that route again if I was doing this swap for sure. Worked great and ran great.
@mainboss2253
@mainboss2253 Жыл бұрын
@@Rickkari7someone said that it limits the engines power slightly. Is that true ?
@Rickkari7
@Rickkari7 Жыл бұрын
@@mainboss2253 not my experience. I’ve done the 2.5 fusion intake and the 2.3 OEM intake with the adapter plate. The latter actually seemed to run with a little more power than the other.
@Hao-vg9ue
@Hao-vg9ue 3 жыл бұрын
Hi mate, I have a manual 01/2007 bk SP23, which year of sp25 engine i need to get to do the fusion swap? thanks
@Rickkari7
@Rickkari7 3 жыл бұрын
Any year will work. I did a 2.5 swap in a 2004 Mazda 3 with a manual the first time I did it. I used a engine out of a 2015 Fusion with a automatic.
@addisonmatheny4962
@addisonmatheny4962 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rickkari7 exactly the reply i was looking for, got a 14 ordered for my 08 5 spd, 2.3, super excited gonna build it out for e85 hopefully. You are a saint for these videos my friend, you may see me again but i hope not, Godspeed. on a side note, ever hear of an impala v8 fwd getting swapped in?
@Rickkari7
@Rickkari7 2 жыл бұрын
@@addisonmatheny4962 never heard of that one. Would be a lot of work to get it done, but would be powerful to say the least.
@jvg278
@jvg278 3 ай бұрын
Hi, are you still using the 2.3 ecu on this swap?
@Rickkari7
@Rickkari7 3 ай бұрын
used original 2.3 ecu in the '04 mazda 3 manual trans swap and the 2007 mazda 6 auto trans swap. no issues in either car
@faithmariehall4455
@faithmariehall4455 2 жыл бұрын
hey ik this is like 2 yrs late but my mazda 3 is at 186k hoping it will make it to 190k before i replace the motor but would this be more expensive in terms of labor? how long did it take? and how long would it take to replace it with a mazda motor? thanks sm!
@Rickkari7
@Rickkari7 2 жыл бұрын
Not much more labor intensive than a Mazda motor. The Ford 2.5's are substantially cheaper and can be found with low miles over Mazda engines. If you have all the needed stuff and equipment, it could probably be done over a weekend or so. This Mazda 6 swap took a few days at work, but I also worked on other things while I did this.
@n0x3n
@n0x3n Жыл бұрын
I'm 4 days into the swap on a 2006 and already have the 2.5 in just gotta finish connecting the wiring harness. Doing all the work myself so no it's not terrible. Hardest part so far was the harmonic balancer but that's because I had a lot of trouble finding info on the timing
@addisonmatheny4962
@addisonmatheny4962 2 жыл бұрын
ok so i just discovered that they made a manual transmission for the 2014 mazda 3, is their any crossover support to a 5 spd 08 3 hatch
@addisonmatheny4962
@addisonmatheny4962 2 жыл бұрын
i already plan to drop a 14 fusion 2.5 and have most of what i need to make a proper healthy build and was interested to know if if thats a worthy swap or future upgrade
@Rickkari7
@Rickkari7 2 жыл бұрын
@@addisonmatheny4962 Not sure.
@addisonmatheny4962
@addisonmatheny4962 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rickkari7 ok also do you think the swap without having to swap camshafts could be a start to finish one day project?
@Rickkari7
@Rickkari7 2 жыл бұрын
@@addisonmatheny4962 could be if you start early and work late and have steps planned out perfectly and it goes smoothly. Biggest thing is removing parts from old engine and swapping them, especially the ones that have rtv sealant. Make sure them and the block are completely clean and dry and free from grease and oil. You don't want to have to reseal them later in the car.
@amonisuluka1451
@amonisuluka1451 4 жыл бұрын
hi mate i have 2005 mazda6 2.3L i swap it with a 2012 ford fusion 2.5L after i install its crank but no spark and fuel,but the fuel pump is working!see if you can help me!
@Rickkari7
@Rickkari7 4 жыл бұрын
Did you swap the intake cam or just the timing cog from one intake cam to the other?
@amonisuluka1451
@amonisuluka1451 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rickkari7 hey i seen your video and i know i never change my timeing cover on fusion to mazda.so i did swap the cover and pulley and now my car is working good and being run almost a year now.thank bro for the video keep it up the good work💯💯💯
@akidim13
@akidim13 Жыл бұрын
Are you located in Southern California or do you know anyone that can do this swap for me down here ? My money is good , thanks again !! Second 2.3 blew
@Rickkari7
@Rickkari7 Жыл бұрын
No. I'm in the state of Tennessee, where liberty and freedom live and so do many California transplants:)
@akidim13
@akidim13 Жыл бұрын
@@Rickkari7 I hear you , might be heading to Montana after this enlistment
@davidgonzalez-wz5sl
@davidgonzalez-wz5sl 3 жыл бұрын
Can I swap a Mazda speed 3 2008 2.3 turbo to a 2.5 ?
@Rickkari7
@Rickkari7 3 жыл бұрын
Guys that own speed 3 Mazdas have swapped the 2.5 short block into these and retained everything else on the 2.3 to make it work. There is a 2.5 swap group on Facebook as well as a turbo Mazda 3 group and they have members that have done it and can give the specifics.
@Devo1987
@Devo1987 2 жыл бұрын
will the intake manifold from the ford 2.5L work in a 2006 Mazda 3s 2.3L ?
@Rickkari7
@Rickkari7 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, but you will have to do modifications to hook things up and some things to keep check engine light off. Running an adapter plate and old intake works great though. See other videos of series. See my posts on Mazda3 forum that I have linked in video description. Mine was a 2004 Mazda so it might be a little different on a 2006.
@marcinka5865
@marcinka5865 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rickkari7 The old intake from 2.3 can't be used on The 2.5?
@Rickkari7
@Rickkari7 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcinka5865 yes. I did this in the video on the Mazda 6. Look through. I used an adapter plate I bought on EBay. Some guys use it straight and put a lot of RTV to seal it. You risk sucking it into the engine. See the videos and go to the links in description for Mazda3 forum threads. You find out all you need to run either manifold. I personally think the 2.3 intake setup ran better than the 2.5 intake setup.
@marcinka5865
@marcinka5865 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rickkari7 thank you. I will read about it. Not sure this plate can be bought here, in Poland. I know these swaps are very common in mx5 community - putting 2.5 into mx5 NC. Thank you for guidance. May I come back to you should I have other question?
@Rickkari7
@Rickkari7 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcinka5865 sure
@bryantmatthews93
@bryantmatthews93 3 жыл бұрын
I had a mazda 3 2.3 this fusion 2.5 us better on ⛽
@kirkyyz438
@kirkyyz438 Жыл бұрын
What state are you located
@Rickkari7
@Rickkari7 Жыл бұрын
TN
@jaybones614
@jaybones614 Жыл бұрын
An engine lasting more than 190k isn't junk
@Rickkari7
@Rickkari7 Жыл бұрын
I hear you. Very true. I should have said that the engines have a flawed design that doesn't allow for good lubrication resulting in premature catastrophic failure. The 2.5 has an improved design. Some go a lot longer, but the fact that there are a ton of videos and forum post about the weakness of the 2.3 prove the design is "junk". My own experience with these vehicles leaves the "junk" comment in my brain. 190K. Very fortunate for sure. Always a diamond in the rough.
@EvlEgle
@EvlEgle 3 жыл бұрын
If you know anything about mazda 2.3s there pretty much junk. The ford version is much better. My mazda only made 194k miles being driven a teenager hurdurrrr
@n0x3n
@n0x3n Жыл бұрын
196 for mine. I've only had it like a month and could hear the engine failing from week two (not even being rough on it so I think the seller knew it was on its way out)
@EvlEgle
@EvlEgle Жыл бұрын
@@n0x3n Eh engine failure is unfortunately very common in mazdaspeeds. And fairly expensive. To many failure points that are usually never address as they should be because most owners CBA,
@n0x3n
@n0x3n Жыл бұрын
I'm four days into a fusion swap and tbh it's probably the easiest engine swap to exist in automotive industry
@EvlEgle
@EvlEgle Жыл бұрын
@@n0x3n Yeah, its basically just swapping inside the same engine family. I've done 2 speeds now. And 1 2.3 mazda 3. Speeds take a lot more work with opening the engine, swapping over all the speed parts, gapping the rings, and then getting a re-map done.
@davehoffman515
@davehoffman515 Жыл бұрын
The best part is they are both Mazda designed engines
@monicocarrera4434
@monicocarrera4434 4 жыл бұрын
May be a dumb question but have you ever or do you know , if it's possible to put a 2.5 into a 2.3 fusion 5 speed?
@taylorwhiting5732
@taylorwhiting5732 4 жыл бұрын
should be a direct swap
@monicocarrera4434
@monicocarrera4434 4 жыл бұрын
@@taylorwhiting5732 thank you , I overfilled my motor with oil during a drunk night out lol
@monicocarrera4434
@monicocarrera4434 4 жыл бұрын
May be a dumb question but have you ever or do you know , if it's possible to put a 2.5 into a 2.3 fusion 5 speed?
@Rickkari7
@Rickkari7 4 жыл бұрын
Yes you can.
@monicocarrera4434
@monicocarrera4434 4 жыл бұрын
@@Rickkari7 thank you sir will be looking in to this , still love the duratec23 so will be finding use for that engine as well , maybe a go kart of sorts haha
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