That's the conclusion I've reached as well. It's a very unique company in this regard. Very few if any other have principles and passion that they adhere before profits. I really appreciate Mazda for what it is. Unfortunately, their current sales aren't great and I wish more people will buy them because this wonderful company might not survive long despite making some of the best driver's cars on the market.

What about Lamborghini? You don't like the new Lamborghini crossover?

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And Dodge

@@Josh-cw8by So true. Sadly i'm not able to drive an MX-5 RF (need more than 2 seats and can't afford a pet car, and germany is rainy) . Last time i was in the market there was still the old model Mazda 3. My personal problems with the Mazda volume models are that the 3 just hasn't enough Ooomph for "traffic light tactical manoeuvres" (much needed here) and the 6 is too heavy and big for me. CX's are out of question, i have no rivers or mountain passes to cross on my way to the office ;-). My dream would be a stylish 2 door/4-seat coupé with the 2.5L engine and the general lines of the RF. But nobody else wants that anymore in the age of SUV hysteria...

I actually think you passed up one of the more impressive points. In the age of cars getting bigger and bigger and heavier with a myriad of required safety features, I actually think it's size and weight are the most impressive features. The BRZ considered a lightweight sports car at 2800 pounds, but this still manages to beat it by almost 500 pounds! It's near the weight of a car that came out in the 80s! That's the most impressive to me.

Soilent that’s impressive as well, and I mention these points in my own writing as well. But seeing Coleman speak about the active toe etc. made me realise only now how much tweaking has gone in every little detail.

@sasquatch then you might be watching the wrong video my friend lol.

Lol no mentions of Bob Hall? Who is father of Miata.

Francis Gomes who tf is bob

@kudos 0000 S2000, GM Solstice, FIAT 124, Miata always the answer.

@kudos 0000 if you're basing driving experience solely off straight line speed, you're lookin at the wrong style of car buddy lol

@kudos 0000 MX 5 Envy alert

Auto or manual

GuitarGuy Manual

Is your car tracked or otherwise in competition? I have a '16 ND bought in October of '15, it has 53K miles, no transmission issues but it isn't in any way a competition car. Good to know that Mazda stood behind your car!

I autocross occasionally and they know about it. They have installed some of the mods for me for autox

@@robertlaw2304 do you have it tuned?

I've heard the next gen, the NE will be 48V mild hybrid.

@@dingmingzou9866 oh god, please no

@@dingmingzou9866 Also, its a cute little SUV.

@@dingmingzou9866 If thats true, it's no real Miata lmao. An atrocity if that comes true.

@@nomadben actully is not so bad 48v mild hybrid would be just like how the latest bmw like 330i behave you wont even notice the mild hybird working it would only kind of work at super low speed give a little bit boast to get it pass emmision as long as they dont go turbo and retain that high reving naturally aspirated engine we dont need more low end toruq monster there already plenty in the market.

Not one of the best, simply THE best period.

Awesome series! I loved mazda, but not the mx-5, now I am in love with this car, and looking forward to buy one! Simply awesome car explanation! Thank you!!

Incredible video, really.

I always say Joe knows best and tst are the only American car youtubers I watch but idk I always forget about savage. Definitely the only three I can watch but I think that's because of my age lol.

1st week of March 2017 it was after watching of all things the KZfaq video review of a 2017 Fiat 124 Spyder Abarth that got me interested in a roadster. After the test drive in traffic it was a Bad driving experience. Did not like its heavy clutch / the turbo lag / tight shift pattern. Next day went to the local Mazda dealer had exactly the same White exterior with Black ground effect trim / Red Brembo brakes / Black BBS wheels. Reminded me of the new Jaguar roadster especially from the rear. Driving ? Absolutely awesome car to drive / light clutch / precise shift pattern / super light feeling Vs the 2017 Spyder Abarth. Driving matters to me ! I could not stop driving this 2016 MX-5 soft top Club ! Convinced the sales Manager to extend my test drive thru the weekend & come back after work Monday. After putting 240 miles on it in a day & 1/2 ... Monday I showed up with my checkbook & my trade in ! Almost 5 years & its not a toy / not a garage queen. Its my daily driven car in 4 season Northern Illinois. Best car I've owned ! All weather conditions the car is a blast to drive !

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I have an NA which I've owned for the past 30+ years and I love it, I've never driven the ND but the word on the street is that this is the ultimate Miata.

@@OZBIE Yeah, and also the ND1 and the ND2 compliment each other right now based on what you want in terms of modifications in your car. The ND1 is cracked open in terms of modifications available while for the ND2 is just basic stuff like exhaust, intake, suspensions and such things.

sasquatch howwww? Cars have literally became bigger and bigger

@@PaxMu not as much gain as forced induction kits, but makes it rev even higher, and gives more torque, making it pretty much perfect: bbrgti.com/products/bbr-mx-5-nd-super-220-2019-on-184-ps

The Lotus Elise is only simplistic cars ever made

I need my screen for google maps tho

Making these videos and piecing them together, reflecting back... I would never do it again. It got made at the right time in the right head space. I am very happy the videos came out well and will be around for a long time.

Dont. The current model has improvements.

GuitarGuy If money was no object I would. 2017’s are in the low $20k’s right now

@@samdaniels1234 either way you can't really go wrong with a miata. Just make sure you get a standard one.

Potentially a very exciting weekend. Good luck!

Same! 'm also picking up an '18 Club white with red cloth top next week! The '19 is nice if you wanna wined the pizz out of her, but $10k off MSRP is a good chunk of change, plus red top all day over brown top. I'm not sure I understand why Mazda changed the cloth top to brown this year. If it remained red I might have gotten a new '19

love it. this one is quickly becoming my next car as well

Me too! I bought mine about 2 weeks Ago

Bought ND2 as well.

How much did you pay?

Wolves Bane95 sport nav plus. 1.5. Machine grey metallic.

Agreed

I disliked due to the miata having California plates. Lol

BRZ owners

@@OrimarDez I didn't know the video was about plates, ha. I thought it was about Miatas.

Your going to love it!!!

Be careful, you'll always find a reason to drive

Go with the manual and feel the car and motor interacting with the road.

I just ordered mine 😝

@@stevelim5274 that's awesome dude. enjoy and drive safe.

Yeah, I love the suspension nerdery that Mr. Saward walked us through. I'd love to see more of that.

Indeed!

Volvo trucks here in UK. and EU, don't have an overdrive gear ratio, top is 1:1. That company well understands powertrain efficiency.

Agreed sir! I can attest to that statement.

You have to know how to sell them tho. Fiat didn't and the 124 was a failure, but it's a great car too. I know, it's an ND with body kit and engine swap, but still.

This video is worth thousands to Mazda....it’s completely spot on.

Agreed!

Nice combination. If the final drive was even a little higher numerically, say 3.5 or so, the car could be a couple of tenths faster, but the gas mileage would suffer since it would be reving higher at the same speed.

They're good, but so many people overrated them

In fairness I work for Honda, and the first time I drove a 10th gen Civic SI, to see if I would prefer it over my Fiesta ST, I was shocked at how dead and numb it felt compared to mine. Everything about that car was better except for the driver experience.

@@deejayimm interesting.. I have an 8th gen. It’s a great engine but the chassis can’t compare to a true rwd sports car. I’ve since acquired an S2000 :)

@@fhowland I'm so torn right now between a Veloster n, and a gr86 premium. I like the new gr Corolla but that thing's going to be marked up to the Moon, especially the circuit edition which is what everyone wants. I know the Veloster is faster than the 86 in a straight line and on a track by a significant margin, but that new gr86 is sexy... I don't really want another car payment but I also feel like I need to buy something because electrification is close.

​@@fhowlandBecause a hot hatch is a compromise in its purest form. I daily a focus st And my sunny day car is a bmw z3 After I get out of driving that for a few days and go back. I have to remind myself. Yes, the driving is nowhere near as good as that roadster, but, I have this car because it is a daily driver that is more interesting than a Corolla. Which is what I need most of the time.

Mazda is no doubt my second favorite mainstream brand only behind Honda

@sasquatch I'd take less weight and less hp all day. It's such a beautiful thing.

I also traded a Subaru STI for an ND2 and it’s more enjoyable to drive it.

Will Kelley you shouldn’t :) You don’t know their story, if they have an injury/disabled where they can’t drive a manual, or forbidden by their wife to not get a manual so that she can drive it too because she refuses to learn manual (like my wife). Also I’m all for people buy automatic no matter the sports car, the more people buy cars like the Miata, the more they will continue making them in the future.

Yah but nah

Like Mushroomancer my wife didnt´t like to learn manual (one of the few women in germany born in the 70s and learned on automatic and drive only automatic) & we only have 1 car. A good compromise for us; way better than the toyota hybrid before and the BMW before that ;-) And, in "sport mode" in a convoy of MX 5s we take much more over as the manual drivers ;-), although the technical data for the automatic is poor. I think, that´s because in daily life you don`t always have the adrenaline (at least the germans ,-) to gear down at 4500 rpm as savagegeese would might say to "drive the piss out of that thing". The automatic in sport mode helps here....:-)

@@rainernoack8402 my wife is from Belgium. She loves automatic here in America.

You shouldn't. I've driven auto NDs and they're great. I still drive a manual though... 😉

It sure is ;)

I had a 15 GTI before and changed to a ND RF. I was worried about space too, but I thought, "hey, I still need to rent a Uhaul when I move, so why not?"

Time for Toyota and Subaru to really get serious and put more effort into the 86/BRZ. I really like the ND2 and really appreciate the effort and money Mazda put into that car but I've always preferred coupes over convertibles, since Mazda doesn't seem to have the intention to make a coupe version of MX-5 I'll still pick the twins.

@@aaronbryan5095 Toyota and Subaru are already underway with development on a second generation. Probably slated for a 2022 model year. Based on how the first gen has been revised over the years; looking at a second gen car updating the engine is Likley where the money is going. Probably nothing huge, maybe 20-30hp bump. Keeping the price down will be the challenge. If they don't change much other than the engine and keep power reasonable they can probably do it. The 280hp everybody wants will require new suspension and bembos as standard. 35-40k car which I doubt would sell as well.

@@MyGoToUserName I'm really eager to see how the second gen 86 will turn out to be, needing to sort out people's biggest complain about the current generation, improving the car as a whole while keeping it affordable.

@@aaronbryan5095 The RF is basically a coupe with the added ability to go top down if you want.

I used to own a NC and learned a ton I ignored about it, makes me miss it even more!

harrismi7 do it bro, YOLO, cheers

Life's to short,go right ahead and check it out.I have an 18 and with a tune,so my revs are at 74000 rpm.The good thing is that the price is so good but once you get to the 30th anniversary the price jumps significantly.Good luck and enjoy the ride.

@@michaelfont7239 74,000 RPM, wow! That must be the extreme sport package with the turbine engine. 😁

Having bought an ND2 2.0 sport four months ago…I tell you you’re damn right you need one. :-). It is amazing how compelling and coherent the whole car is…besides the sheer speed and linear feedback within all its interactions with the driver…

What strikes me is the total lack of rust protection. As an owner of classic cars, it sends shivers down my spine.

You’re not alone my friend 👍🏾👍🏾

I hope so,this car is a gem.