Mazda MX-30 First Drive - Does it have a Perfectly Sized Battery? | 100% Independent, 100% Electric

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The Mazda MX30 is a practical, straightforward and impressive compact SUV with everything you would expect from a well-made car by Mazda. There is just one small question mark, and it is small, the battery. Mazda's first all-electric ground up car comes with one 35.5 kWh battery option which seems unusual for a car of this size. The smaller, lighter battery does however bring down this EV down into a lower price bracket, but also means it has a lower range. But does Mazda's reasoning about using a smaller battery to reduce overall CO2 make sense? And much more importantly, how many random sound effects can Robert make while adjusting his seat?
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Timestamps
0:00 Electric Car in the Rain
0:46 A Quick Introduction
1:53 Cabin Familiarisation
3:15 Let's Go for a Drive
5:30 Deliberately Small Battery
7:57 What's the Range?
10:55 Robert's Regen Fetish
12:30 Interior Footage & Head-Up Display
14:15 How well will this sell?
15:06 In Summary
17:13 Subscribe & Support
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@fullychargedshow
@fullychargedshow 3 жыл бұрын
LIKE if you'd like to switch to Electric & SHARE if you think cars should be sustainable. The Mazda MX30 is a practical, straightforward and impressive compact SUV with everything you would expect from a well-made car by Mazda. There is just one small question mark, and it is small, the battery. Mazda's first all-electric ground up car comes with one 35.5 kWh battery option which seems unusual for a car of this size. The smaller, lighter battery does however bring down this EV down into a lower price bracket, but also means it has a lower range. But does Mazda's reasoning about using a smaller battery to reduce overall CO2 make sense? And much more importantly, how many random sound effects can Robert make while adjusting his seat? Fully Charged is 100% independent thanks to KZfaq Memberships and Patreons. Without you this channel wouldn’t be possible! If you’d like to help support the Fully Charged channel and its mission: Become a Patreon: www.patreon.com/fullychargedshow Become a KZfaq member: use JOIN button above Subscribe to Fully Charged & the Fully Charged PLUS channels Buy the Fully Charged Guide to Electric Vehicles & Clean Energy : buff.ly/2GybGt0 Browse the Fully Charged store: shop.fullycharged.show/ Visit our LIVE exhibitions in the UK, USA & Europe: FullyCharged.Show/events Subscribe for episode alerts and the Fully Charged newsletter: fullycharged.show/zap-sign-up/ Visit: FullyCharged.Show Find us on Twitter: twitter.com/fullychargedshw Follow us on Instagram: instagram.com/fullychargedshow *Timestamps* 0:00 Electric Car in the Rain 0:46 A Quick Introduction 1:53 Cabin Familiarisation 3:15 Let's Go for a Drive 5:30 Deliberately Small Battery 7:57 What's the Range? 10:55 Robert's Regen Fetish 12:30 Interior Footage & Head-Up Display 14:15 How well will this sell? 15:06 In Summary 17:13 Subscribe & Support
@GoTellJesusSaves
@GoTellJesusSaves 3 жыл бұрын
I truly believe this was a smart move by Mazda. 1. EVERYONE must go electric quickly. 2. Batteries are limited supply (for now) - Less batteries, higher production capabilities. 3. People are realizing that 100 miles is plenty for daily driving needs. 4. The market for small distance commuter cars is high in big cities. 5. More and more electric charging stations are becoming available. 6. The cargo space in this vehicle is immense compared to other low range EVs. 7. It's economical in a time where focus on economic strong and rising rapidly. 8. Lower cost!!! Brilliant!
@chrisnorman1183
@chrisnorman1183 3 жыл бұрын
I'm in Tasmania Robert and finally services station's are installing fast charges! Won't be long now.
@dotlaj
@dotlaj 3 жыл бұрын
Why do car manufacturers not make the car we want. I live in Norway and now so many people who want to have electric cars but want a station wagon with options of four wheel drive and 500km range. This is people who have kids that need space for kid stuff and don't want to have range anxiety.
@theelectricmonk3909
@theelectricmonk3909 3 жыл бұрын
@@dotlaj Jaguar i-Pace? I accept it's not an estate car, but it's got a decent sized boot, especially with the back seats down. Range (WLTP) is damn close to 500km
@CCR-ew6ke
@CCR-ew6ke 3 жыл бұрын
It's good if you live in the city and not 15 miles out of town, but smaller batteries and low range is not for everyone. In a few years the "newer of the new" models will have twice the range it's a matter of time.
@indiebikes
@indiebikes 3 жыл бұрын
It’s seems like driving around in an EV with a 70-90kwh battery when your commute is 10-20 miles a day and you can recharge overnight is like filling your petrol car tank to the brim every night and lugging 50 litres of fuel around every day. Small capacity batteries definitely have a place for those who need less distance.
@krystiankukulski8054
@krystiankukulski8054 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@stephenspencer8224
@stephenspencer8224 11 ай бұрын
No, you aren’t lugging a tank full of liquid and there’s no weight difference between a full or discharged battery. Have a home charger you won’t even be going anywhere to fill up.
@alexandrugeorge1573
@alexandrugeorge1573 10 ай бұрын
@@stephenspencer8224You are missing the point, he said if you just commute 10-20 miles a day and you fill it up every night, you just carry the extra full everyday for nothing. And ues the battery full or not doesn’t get heaviar or easier but his point is that you have a small capacity battery, And having a 38 Kwh battery vs a 75 kwh battery , there is a large weight difference.
@stephenspencer8224
@stephenspencer8224 10 ай бұрын
Yes, I am going to be leasing one. It’s perhaps half a time tonne lighter and not anywhere near the most efficient but the comfort, drive quality and range will meet my needs. The lack of wheel spinning acceleration will better preserve my tyres too. So I don’t think I have missed anything. However how big the market is for such a product if it relies on folks with such needs as mine is a concern. I’d like to see this car succeed. Best wishes.
@luciphergaming6582
@luciphergaming6582 10 ай бұрын
I'm more worried about the winter. How much range am i losing for some heating
@VerilogTutor
@VerilogTutor 3 жыл бұрын
A long bonnet in a pure EV seems unnecessary. They could better use the space for passengers, e.g. like the VW ID.3 and ID.4.
@ZesPak
@ZesPak 3 жыл бұрын
And the Tesla Model 3, Model Y and Jaguar I Pace.
@Leopold5100
@Leopold5100 3 жыл бұрын
and hence the lack of rear seat room
@duffgaryduff
@duffgaryduff 3 жыл бұрын
Agree. piss poor I'm afraid.
@shroomyesc
@shroomyesc 3 жыл бұрын
Mazda is going to sell this in Japan with a combustion engine for some reason, I suppose that's why?
@robertkirchner7981
@robertkirchner7981 3 жыл бұрын
@@shroomyesc Also they are developing a rotary powered range extender, so they'd need space for that. Still no excuse for the back seat size though.
@batandball617
@batandball617 3 жыл бұрын
This car might have been good 10 years ago, having a battery this small in 2021 seems somewhat self limiting irrespective of how well it’s built.
@Tore_Lund
@Tore_Lund 3 жыл бұрын
IT is the other way round: Having a small battery today, should be enough as opposed to 10 years ago, where EVs were just Diesel cars with bolt on batteries. Oh wait, the Mazda is an ordinary car just with batteries thrown in!
@stefanweilhartner4415
@stefanweilhartner4415 3 жыл бұрын
this is what VW does well. they give options. they let the customer decide and learn from it.
@harrisj67
@harrisj67 3 жыл бұрын
Surely this depends on the use-case? If all this car is for is to commute a-b on your daily journey and you have a second car (average family has 1.8 in Australia/1.9 in the US - only 1.2 in UK) then this car is more than sufficient. The other car can be your weekender or interstater.
@johnjohnson3447
@johnjohnson3447 3 жыл бұрын
It’s ideal for my wife and I who have a CX-5 for trips. The MX-30 would be for in town use, requiring charging once a week in our garage. The rear door design also is ideal for our use as I am becoming disabled and appreciate easily loading a rollator in the rear seat.
@munrgra
@munrgra 3 жыл бұрын
I test drove this car and was blown away by the comfort and handling. The interior is also so comforting. I have an Audi E-Tron already but decided to order this and see how we get on. The E-tron is a bit of a bus around town and murder to park in even not so tight spaces, so I reckon I will use this more day to day.
@supernpstr
@supernpstr 3 жыл бұрын
A car with a large bonnet and back end but hardly any seat space at the back or even range - wuuut? Its a regular car converted to electric - not a ground up designed electric car.
@marc0523
@marc0523 3 жыл бұрын
It looks like a conversion, I don't see how they could do such a bad job of space management any other way.
@jeremylister89
@jeremylister89 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that is really odd.
@stuartmitchell8736
@stuartmitchell8736 3 жыл бұрын
The idea is to put people off EV’s
@theproffessional9
@theproffessional9 3 жыл бұрын
@@stuartmitchell8736 it's gonna back fire, so it'll put people off Mazda
@patreekotime4578
@patreekotime4578 3 жыл бұрын
Huge hood that you can't see to park. That whole design trend has been terrible for years no matter what the drivetrain. Like if you have to have a camera in the front just to park, theres something wrong with the design.
@Barzen873
@Barzen873 3 жыл бұрын
So its 3cm longer than a ID.3 but you can only fit children in the back. Seems like a lot of wasted space to me. They tried to hard to keep the combustion shape!
@Barzen873
@Barzen873 3 жыл бұрын
I was wrong. It's 14cm longer. MX30 4.40m ID.3 4.26m ID.4 4.58m
@Tjomsasen
@Tjomsasen 3 жыл бұрын
@@Barzen873 The main reason is because it isn't built from the ground up as an EV, and the bonnet is massive.
@Martin-se3ij
@Martin-se3ij 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tjomsasen May this be because it's front wheel drive so all the gubbins is in there? We never got a look in.
@timscott3027
@timscott3027 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more. What a heap of shit.
@Tjomsasen
@Tjomsasen 3 жыл бұрын
@@Martin-se3ij There's plenty of space under there. I believe they're planning a version with a Wankel engine. There's easily space for a custom 100 litre+ frunk under there
@ErraticPT
@ErraticPT 3 жыл бұрын
Something that large id expect more range and much less wasted space.
@Leopold5100
@Leopold5100 3 жыл бұрын
doesn't look designed from ground up as EV, wasted front bonnet area [simply adapted from ICE design], severe lack of leg room in the back and parcel shelf area (from what I could see), and that battery is just tooooooo minimal.
@bryanduncan6178
@bryanduncan6178 3 жыл бұрын
It's not large! It's 95mm bigger than a Peugeot e2008, so it's in the sub-compact SUV sector.
@patreekotime4578
@patreekotime4578 3 жыл бұрын
@@bryanduncan6178 sub-compact SUV.... What do these words even mean? Its a tall hatchback with wonky proportions.
@reenachauriya4931
@reenachauriya4931 3 жыл бұрын
@@Leopold5100 not adopted but will be getting a small engine as a petrol range extender so bonet has to be big. batteries are put in the chassis bottom like every other ev
@ds2000
@ds2000 3 жыл бұрын
I'd have this in a heartbeat but 110 miles is probably 80-90 in the cold, thats simply not enough.
@pollumG
@pollumG 3 жыл бұрын
Now the Honda E makes more sense.
@ds2000
@ds2000 3 жыл бұрын
@@pollumG The price of the Honda now probably makes less sense. It seems like the two companies have only gone at this 80%. Both are great looking cars they just fall that bit short. Hopefully in 3 years we'll get revisions and absolutely cracking cars!
@danpos1
@danpos1 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@phejom
@phejom 3 жыл бұрын
Bought an eniro 64kwh and looking at this for our next car but afraid it isn't big enough and doesn't go far enough especially with winters here being so cold. Try again mazda. Hwy the big bonnet!?!
@ds2000
@ds2000 3 жыл бұрын
@Richard Wood Yep, my commute is only 110km round trip. One freezing cold day or a motorway blockage and I'd be sh!tting myself in this car. In the Model 3, no such worries.
@Zobeid
@Zobeid 3 жыл бұрын
This piece opens with two falsehoods… » “This is built from the ground up [as an] electric car.” No, it's not. » “But it is a really interesting car.” No, it's really not. I suppose someday it may be of interest to historians, when they want to illustrate the concept of a compliance car. Skip ahead to the conclusion… » “I like it. I like everything about it. There’s nothing not to like about it.” You may be alone in that. I don’t think even Mazda like it. I watched their unveiling event online. I mean, they wouldn’t come out and say so, of course, but it was easy to tell from the morose tone of the event. It was like a funeral.
@graycrow
@graycrow 3 жыл бұрын
Zobeid Zuma, this deserves more upvotes
@chrisabbott683
@chrisabbott683 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely spot on
@grant3226
@grant3226 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly and I'd like to point out the myth that "110 miles of range on a charge... still very useful for a large majority" No. As an owner now of 2 Nissan Leafs, 100 miles range is NOT enough, arriving home after a day of driving with an empty battery is counterproductive. As Elon Musk has said "With regard to passenger vehicles, I think the new normal for range is going to be just in US EPA terms approximately 300 miles. So, I think people will really come to expect that as some number close to 300 miles as normal,"
@andys844
@andys844 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm pretty sure Mazda don't actually want to sell many of these. I tiny range and (purposefully?) unusable rear space. An e mx5 would have at least been interesting. It's obviously a load of old gumph about them wanting a lighter battery pack - they didn't have the budget or buying power for a larger pack. Having a tiny pack means it'll get cycled more with more stress in each cell and have faster wear. I have very low expectations about the r and d they've put into battery management and long term life of the pack.
@crasdan
@crasdan 3 жыл бұрын
I started to be very septics about this guy Fully charge.... many things is saying in the favour for VW Mazda Polestar etc ...
@KenBrask1
@KenBrask1 3 жыл бұрын
The MX 30 is based on the CX 30 so it is not a “ground up” EV. This also explains why Mazda could only fit a 35 kWh battery in it. The story about keeping overall CO2 emissions low is just marketing BS. Though I think it is a good looking car. Practical it is not..
@mikuelable
@mikuelable 2 жыл бұрын
As a car journalist he should know .....based on the cx30 🙄
@MrJoegotbored
@MrJoegotbored 2 жыл бұрын
Cool. Thanks for the info Ken.
@dantoes1
@dantoes1 3 жыл бұрын
Bit disappointing to have a car with 110 miles, 50KW-DC charging to cramped backseat and a big footprint on the road. Most ev's use internal space well, this car doesnt look like that. Great that this car drives well, but I have no clue why someome would buy this car over an ID3/ ID4.
@stesegreto656
@stesegreto656 3 жыл бұрын
Truly disappointing for a brad well respected like mazda
@busog97641
@busog97641 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, I only wish that we here in the USA could get the ID3, oh, how I want one of those, but there are *NO* plans for a small car here... if it isn't Hummer sized, it isn't welcomed here. :'(
@Luckyjo21
@Luckyjo21 3 жыл бұрын
even a bloody basic cheap MG 5 goes 214 miles.
@Groaznic
@Groaznic 3 жыл бұрын
Even the new Zoe destroys this compliance conversion car.
@loyp4328
@loyp4328 3 жыл бұрын
People like me, who drive 70 % of the time alone and 99 % of the time with only one passenger, have access to a charging station at home and at work, and don't do more than 120 km a day will be delighted to avoid a whale like the ID3 (why all the European EVs are fugly ?). I like both outside and inside design, I trust Mazda reliability, they are fun to drive and this model cost almost half what a VW or a Peugeot would cost. This car is a proud successor to the whole MX- range. I'd like to get one as a small van for periurban deliveries.
@jonasweber9408
@jonasweber9408 3 жыл бұрын
I drove it and it was one of the smoothest and comfortable drive I have ever had. But only for the driver... my brother at the back was painfully seated... I love Mazda and I would like to love this car... buts it’s useless no place, no fast charging, the MG ZS EV is a far better proposition imo
@angela1984a
@angela1984a 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't MG owned by the Military Dictatorship that is China?
@Neilisthevideoking
@Neilisthevideoking 3 жыл бұрын
Mg is much better value. I enjoy it. Even better to support our supreme Chinese overlords.
@angela1984a
@angela1984a 3 жыл бұрын
@@Neilisthevideoking I of course disagree. Also: SUV's are wasteful and IMO just POS. I would do whatever it takes to get an ID.3 instead. No.1 Choice would of course be a Model 3 with a tow bar.
@matthewwatt2295
@matthewwatt2295 3 жыл бұрын
@Viggen It's very misleading to claim he orchestrated the coup. Yes they might have benefitted from it, but I haven't seen compelling evidence Tesla was actually involved in the process.
@angela1984a
@angela1984a 3 жыл бұрын
@Viggen 1. The US is a democracy. 2. The CEO of Tesla DID NOT fund a coup against anyone. Do you have any proof of what you claim other than a clearly IRONIC tweet?
@SaffyMirza
@SaffyMirza 3 жыл бұрын
110 miles on a full charge is the headline for me, sure its a great looking car, smooth and quiet and well built, but making an electric car today with that range is just asking for trouble. If you can buy a second hand Leaf for £7K that covers the same range, what do you think this will be worth in 3 years? Incidentally Tesla have predicted that within 3 years they will produce a 300 mile range vehicle for £25K, To conclude this would have been a great car 7 years ago!
@andymccabe6712
@andymccabe6712 3 жыл бұрын
Tesla are gonna have to start using a lot more buttons and dials to get MY interest.....!!!!
@jdavison8551
@jdavison8551 3 жыл бұрын
Or a Zoe 50 for v similar price and performance, but more interior space an twice the range!
@justjc51
@justjc51 3 жыл бұрын
A small correction on the Tesla statement. They claim they would be able to make a $25k EV, however they have not promised one, so it should be seen as the statement of 2014 of a soon to arrive $30k Tesla Model E that we are still waiting to see. Making a $25k EV requires a couple of compromises that Tesla won't make before Elon Musk leaves the company. As for the Mazda I would have wished for another 10 kWh and it would be a decent contender on the EV market for most people.
@angela1984a
@angela1984a 3 жыл бұрын
I'm allergic to anything that's SUV or Crossover. With a battery this small - WHY isn't this a 'hot hatch' instead?!?
@justaguy6216
@justaguy6216 3 жыл бұрын
Mazdaspeed 3e? Would kinda be epic.
@Mi82475
@Mi82475 3 жыл бұрын
Because people don't buy them anymore. On every car forum the enthusiast hate on the SUV but the people keep buying them! We are a small not very influent minority :(
@justaguy6216
@justaguy6216 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mi82475 But mini SUV's/crossovers aren't good at anything. They're not sporty, they don't have the best utility or people carrying capacity. If I wanted a sporty car I'd get a hot hatch, if I wanted utility I'd get a truck or a wagon (which has about the same boot space and doesn't look fugly) and if I wanted to carry people I'd get a full size 7 seater SUV or a family mini van. These kind of cars have a bootspace between a big hatch and a wagon, they carry only 5 people in most cases (this car can't even do that) and their high center of gravity plus thier weight make them seem like a lumbering log. I just see no reason why people buy it? People who buy these people haven't the slightest clue about cars, or know what they want from a car, so they end up buying something thats extremely average.
@Mi82475
@Mi82475 3 жыл бұрын
@@justaguy6216 you are completely right. But we humans are far from rational. We do unreasonable stuff, buying overpriced stuff we don't use in the most efficient way. Marketing people from the nineties to this day are so able to sell the SUV (fist BIG ones than smaller ones) that the public is even happy to pay a significant premium over the hatchback on witch it's based. So the car companies are happy cause the SUV are more profitable. 🤷‍♂️
@davidwitko9565
@davidwitko9565 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mi82475 My wife buys one simply because of 1 thing. High driving position.
@JohnGibsone
@JohnGibsone 3 жыл бұрын
I think that the long bonnet is required for the recently announced hybrid version. It turns out that it isn't a pure EV after all, and they need the space for that petrol engine.
@cannygrowabeard
@cannygrowabeard 3 жыл бұрын
I believe it has been built on a modification of Mazda’s platform used for the ICE CX-30, which puts this in the same category as the Polestar 2 and the XC-40 Pure Electric, cobbling together technologies in a one size fits all approach generally means ‘it’s going to be heavy boi’.
@bryanduncan6178
@bryanduncan6178 3 жыл бұрын
@@cannygrowabeard The car weighs only 1645kgs - the car is built from the ground up as an EV.
@bryanduncan6178
@bryanduncan6178 3 жыл бұрын
It's actually going to be a range extender using a Wankel engine....
@Psi-Storm
@Psi-Storm 3 жыл бұрын
@@bryanduncan6178 Not really, when you double the battery size to the middle version of the id3, it's 200 kg heavier. The front is probably half a meter longer too, so you lose so much passenger space.
@afterburner94
@afterburner94 3 жыл бұрын
They really think we are idiots. There's no other explanation to this farce by Mazda.
@DanRyzESPUK
@DanRyzESPUK 3 жыл бұрын
This car, with its small battery and price, comes 3 years late to the EV market.
@AM-ws1em
@AM-ws1em 3 жыл бұрын
Price? I bought it for roughly 18k GBP :) could you advise me anything else for that amount of money in the same size and build quality? :) I don't give a damn about the range, only use it locally (50-60 miles/day), for longer journeys I use the v8 :D
@DanRyzESPUK
@DanRyzESPUK 3 жыл бұрын
@@AM-ws1em for that price the e-2008 Peugeot, the Hyundai E-Kona or Kia E-Niro, have better results and more range, just to start with the small SUVs. Nissan Leaf also gives more space and with the 40 kWh you still have more range. For smaller ones either the E-Corsa and E-Peugeot have 52 kWh batteries and good space on the back (proper 4 meters length) and they're cheaper. Among utilitarians you've got the 3 twins of VW, far cheaper and more range, and spacious given the fact they're only 3.7m long. Maybe the Honda E is smaller but has more range than this.
@DanRyzESPUK
@DanRyzESPUK 3 жыл бұрын
@@AM-ws1em sorry you said only £18k? Well, maybe then because we saw it for nearly £30k before. It's the only way to sell this car.
@AM-ws1em
@AM-ws1em 3 жыл бұрын
@@DanRyzESPUK better results in what exactly? the mazda is made in japan, the quality of the interior, the options and the design are far more superior, than any of the psa or hyundai cars in the same price range. to be honest, i don’t know much about UK prices, I’m from Hungary :)
@Secretlyanothername
@Secretlyanothername 3 жыл бұрын
You're right. This would have been semi-competitive in 2016.
@df3555
@df3555 3 жыл бұрын
I love Mazda interiors/quality, engineering and driving dynamics....but this car just made a boost/justification for VW ID.3 sales.
@underamoure
@underamoure 3 жыл бұрын
No idea why Robert excuses himself for the rain "noise" i really like it. Makes the video way more british ;-)
@aritakalo8011
@aritakalo8011 3 жыл бұрын
Also it actually gives some useful information.. No need to excuse the rain noise. Just instead go "Well we got lucky with rain. Let's see how good the sound dampening is...... Well this has a sun roof, so that makes the rain noise pretty dominant. So that is a concern, if one chooses the sun roof option."
@andyking894
@andyking894 3 жыл бұрын
The rain is almost the most British thing in this video, aside from the Englishman having a whinge about it, of course.😁
@APokeInTheEye
@APokeInTheEye 3 жыл бұрын
Besides it's not like it's his fault it's raining lol xD
@my2cents395
@my2cents395 3 жыл бұрын
Less range = more charge cycles= shorter battery life.
@TriviaChallenge
@TriviaChallenge 3 жыл бұрын
Yup.
@Groaznic
@Groaznic 3 жыл бұрын
You would expect a prominent dedicated EV show like this, that has access to prototypes all across the planet, to know this basic rule.
@esm7708
@esm7708 3 жыл бұрын
That artificial noise... When you thought it couldn’t get even shitter
@busog97641
@busog97641 3 жыл бұрын
Spot-Bloody-On!!! *Complete and udder nonsense to buy an electric car and then the flipping thing to sound like a sodding ICE car when one accelerates!!! *
@Yahgiggle
@Yahgiggle 3 жыл бұрын
yeah thats how much these clowns know what the market wants, they think we want this crap, i was like cracking up and thinking i would rip that speaker out if i had one but because of the shitty small battery i would never get this car, if this is a tesla killer then tesla definity have nothing to worry about lol
@LG123ABC
@LG123ABC 3 жыл бұрын
There's got to be a wire somewhere that you can disconnect to get rid of that nonsense!
@DaxXx988
@DaxXx988 3 жыл бұрын
Every EV produces artificial noise. And they will be obliged to do so legally as well for the outside world.
@Yahgiggle
@Yahgiggle 3 жыл бұрын
@@DaxXx988 yeah some laws in some areas of the world might make you have a sound at low speeds, its not law here where i live yet so if i get any EV with this low speed sound ill be ripping it right out or hacking the software to stop it.
@calorus
@calorus 3 жыл бұрын
FC Have some brilliant presenters - but it should never be underestimated - you, Robert, are the best by far.
@Leopold5100
@Leopold5100 3 жыл бұрын
absolutely
@AsphaltAntelope
@AsphaltAntelope 3 жыл бұрын
How did they manage to make the back seats so useless for such a large sized car? What goes through the heads of people who buy cars like this? I don't get it.
@Lewis_Standing
@Lewis_Standing 3 жыл бұрын
It's styled to look like a crossover, but is it actually a super mini? I'm just comparing it against my swift, probably about the same - it's actually 80cm longer and with 100l more boot but doesn't look any bigger
@andymccabe6712
@andymccabe6712 3 жыл бұрын
Well, if you're a family of TWO(there's a lot of us out there!) then you don't CARE about the rear seats! Whereas boot space........
@loyp4328
@loyp4328 3 жыл бұрын
Apparently lot of people has big families in the comment, but surprisingly when I commute, most of the cars I see on the road with me carry only the driver, and sometimes one passenger. I'm OK with the range, since it helps having a car priced like a mid-range city car.
@talkandplay
@talkandplay 2 жыл бұрын
Designers of the MX30 should be flogged in public.Sign the petition HERE
@TheMilanMovies
@TheMilanMovies 3 жыл бұрын
When I first saw it I wasn’t that excited by it. Today I went for a test drive and I must say: I’m pretty impressed. The car looks and feels quite nice, especially the interior. It’s loaded with features and with the 4K subsidy here in the Netherlands (on new electric vehicles) it a real good deal. Sure, the MG ZS EV might be a bit cheaper with a higher range, but the build quality of these cannot be compared. MG isn’t what it was back in the day. For people that drive around 50km per day, like my dad, the range isn’t that big of a deal. He can charge the battery at work and, if necessary, at home.
@michaelrch
@michaelrch 3 жыл бұрын
If you are going to have a battery that small, then you need fast charging. Unfortunately with 50kW max charging, they have missed the mark here. I suspect only Mazda fans will seriously consider it. It's a shame that this is the best they could do on their first all electric effort. It seems like Mazda's heart really isn't in it and the the team developing the car didn't have the budget they needed.
@slash196
@slash196 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately battery size and charging speed are somewhat positively correlated. I don't think Mazda was particularly interested in making this car at all and it shows. "It was a deliberate choice to make our car less desirable to our target market" sounds like something marketing had to dream up to justify a management decision.
@cannygrowabeard
@cannygrowabeard 3 жыл бұрын
And a Rotary rEx coming in 2022, I really think they have no idea what direction they should be going in.
@antirufus
@antirufus 3 жыл бұрын
@@slash196 Gen. 1 Ioniq was 28 kWh and supported ~70 kW
@markmd9
@markmd9 3 жыл бұрын
I think they did that intentionally to make it cheaper and there is a big problem with suppliers of batteries
@fabrom4428
@fabrom4428 3 жыл бұрын
And if you're going to have a battery that small, you also need to counter it with a very high efficiency: at almost 180 Wh/km, there goes another missed mark from Mazda.
@ralmslb
@ralmslb 3 жыл бұрын
The battery being small justifications for me is a bunch of bullshit. Specially considering that this car seems to be sold at a similar price as the ID3, which is just all around a better car with a proper battery.
@salipander6570
@salipander6570 3 жыл бұрын
"A smaller battery for a lower weight". Nevertheless it is a heavy car and the battery is too small anyway. A halfhearted effort. If you want to save CO2 and you mean it: Don't build SUVs!
@some_nebula
@some_nebula 3 жыл бұрын
One hundred percent agree. Companies claim they’re making EVs to save the planet or whatever(Nissan, VW, Tesla, Hyundai, etc.), but they keep making big cars. And then they claim their Crossovers/SUVs are “fuel efficient”??? If you actually cared about fuel efficiency you wouldn’t be making crossovers. If they knew how to sell and were really determined to dominate the market, they would convince their clients SUVs are the most foolish thing ever, especially when many countries like Japan have always had small cars.
@williamarmstrong7199
@williamarmstrong7199 3 жыл бұрын
@@some_nebula Japanese people are small people! I drive a Mitsubishi PHEV as a taxi and these days I cannot tell you how many customers cannot get the seat belt on because they are so obese!
@some_nebula
@some_nebula 3 жыл бұрын
@@williamarmstrong7199 ok understandable, but that is definitely a problem. A big problem.
@paulsasso3806
@paulsasso3806 3 жыл бұрын
@@some_nebula In order to gain market share you have to meet the customers where they are. It would be nearly impossible to convince them to switch to much smaller cars. That's a gradual evolution that takes time, time we don't have. Right now just switching to EV's is critical. It would be nice if everyone got the urgency of our predicament, and were willing to make bigger changes, but we're not there yet.
@DanRyzESPUK
@DanRyzESPUK 3 жыл бұрын
@@some_nebula In a perfect world SUVs would be restricted to what they were meant to be, on the countryside, not on the cities.
@rocket3man
@rocket3man 3 жыл бұрын
Well Hyundai and Kia will not be worried by this.
@martian9999
@martian9999 3 жыл бұрын
Methinks Mazda's explanation for the smallish battery is just a rationalization. They just couldn't make it work out financially with a bigger battery. Honda has a similar problem with the e. If they seriously thought a small battery was the way to go, they should have made the rest of the car as efficient as possible, just as Hyundai does with the Ioniq. (Especially the first-gen Ioniq). A very efficient EV with a small battery means you can drive 150 miles, charge quickly, and then go on for another 150 miles. It doesn't work that way if you're starting with an unaerodynamic CUV.
@MarcoPon
@MarcoPon 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not convinced of the argument for the small battery. Seems most likely they saw both the need to enter the EV market quick, and a difficulty to obtain enough cells/battery packs, IMHO. Then they imagined a questionable scenario di justify it.
@Chrisb8s
@Chrisb8s 3 жыл бұрын
Its like saying. “Wear shorts to save on fabric “. Sorry sometimes I need long pants This car is a fail. When a new ev has less range than a leaf it is a fail
@danielstefanovic2604
@danielstefanovic2604 3 жыл бұрын
True thats why this will also come with a wankel engine as a range extender, same as i3 rex.
@kbrandt3434
@kbrandt3434 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, my first thought was about battery supply issues.
@LG123ABC
@LG123ABC 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I want at least a 500 mile range to eliminate any trace of "range anxiety" along with extremely rapid recharging on a standardized network of charging stations. That's what you really need if you want EV's to catch on with the general public -- even though EV enthusiasts try convince themselves otherwise.
@spaldi01
@spaldi01 3 жыл бұрын
I think Mazda will sell as many of these as they want to
@Zobeid
@Zobeid 3 жыл бұрын
I see what you did there.
@francesconicoletti2547
@francesconicoletti2547 3 жыл бұрын
Ok 35kwh battery pack, save the planet. Now design a car around it. Low CD. Low frontal area. Get as much range as you can out of those KWh. Don’t stick it in a car designed to fit an ICE or hybrid power train, nobody is saving the planet, there was no space for a bigger battery.
@yogajedi3337
@yogajedi3337 3 жыл бұрын
If someone wants to save the planet they better join the consuming level of the Amish people. EV-cars just is the usually green washing bs used by the salesman.
@rjung_ch
@rjung_ch 3 жыл бұрын
Robert, the rear doors are like the Mazda RX-8 had. no need to even get close to BMW on that point :-D
@k.squared
@k.squared 3 жыл бұрын
This is the kind of car a legacy automaker would make if it didn't want its own clients to buy it, imho.
@tzeimet
@tzeimet 3 жыл бұрын
Overall, this is a car you can tell was made by a company that doesn't really believe in electric cars.
@andymccabe6712
@andymccabe6712 3 жыл бұрын
Er, no you can't.......!
@DanielZajic
@DanielZajic 3 жыл бұрын
Yup. It's embarrassing. I bet they're going to be losing money on these, too. Mazda clearly doesn't care putting out something like this. Front wheel drive? 🤦‍♂️ They'll be one of the first to go under.
@tzeimet
@tzeimet 3 жыл бұрын
@@andymccabe6712 You're kidding, right? This car screams 'EU compliance car', it even makes engine noises (inside the car!). Mazda stated many times that they don't think EVs make sense (before the MX-30), that's why they are one of the few companies still trying to revolutionise the combustion engine, unfortunately their Skyactiv-X engine didn't live up to the hype and has disappeared into mediocrity.
@Nicholas.T
@Nicholas.T 3 жыл бұрын
Funny about Tom - simliar to another car company that also doesn’t believe in electric cars.....you know, BMW, the maker of the other weird and impractical EV, the i3 !!!
@tzeimet
@tzeimet 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nicholas.T The thing is, the i3 is 7 years old! When EVs were a niche product that only a few companies believed in. It's a different time now, with EVs making up 14% of the German market this year. It's not acceptable to release a brand new car like the i3 these days, especially not at that price. I also think it's pretty lazy that BMW wants to keep the i3 until 2024, also the i3 (120ah) has nearly double the realistic range than the mx-30 (even if it's a weird and impractical car).
@emilenossin5098
@emilenossin5098 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty much every EV also has regen in the braking pedal. It doesn’t mean you’re using the physical brakes
@jur4x
@jur4x 3 жыл бұрын
IN trolleybusses and trams that's industry standard. You press brake pedal to slow down, but most likely it goes into regen.
@jur4x
@jur4x 3 жыл бұрын
@cresbydotcom Never heard of this problem with Solaris trolleybusses in Riga :) There was another problem with few BKM units, that followed different design approach, and had brake and accelerator placed in such a way that you need to use different legs to press them. It used to be common approach by certain manufacturers, but Riga never used their products before. In fact, most our driver got used to old Škoda 14Tr and 15Tr (and older ones remembered 9Tr) where you had 3 pedals - electric brake, pneumatic brake and accelerator. So naturally, design difference resulted in few rear-endings :)
@stephenjkoch
@stephenjkoch 3 жыл бұрын
I cant see why used buy this over a 40kw leaf. Same price and leaf has more range and more room inside.
@murraycrichton2001
@murraycrichton2001 3 жыл бұрын
A leaf dosen't scream mid life crisis like this does..
@phlegmatic123
@phlegmatic123 3 жыл бұрын
Leaf battery is trash after 5 years
@stephenjkoch
@stephenjkoch 3 жыл бұрын
@@phlegmatic123 Leaf has an 8 year 100,000 mile warranty.
@harsimranbansal5355
@harsimranbansal5355 3 жыл бұрын
@@phlegmatic123 not 5, it can easily last 10 and I’ve seen 8 year old leafs with only 2 bars lost. This car isn’t gonna be any better, Mazda made a terrible EV
@14hialeah
@14hialeah 3 жыл бұрын
@@phlegmatic123 Rubbish my Leaf battery was still 95% OK after 40K and 6.5 years old!!!
@philspaghet
@philspaghet 3 жыл бұрын
The ONLY reason I'm excited about this is the reintroduction of the rotary engine!
@LostWaxProcess
@LostWaxProcess 3 жыл бұрын
In a game of Top Trumps, this would be the card that makes you groan.
@dauterive
@dauterive 3 жыл бұрын
This would be a great car to buy 2nd hand. The value after new will plummet with that battery and 50kwh charging.
@Neilisthevideoking
@Neilisthevideoking 3 жыл бұрын
Good call. This will look very unappealing in a second hand market.
@MrPikkoz
@MrPikkoz 3 жыл бұрын
In real life testing it doesn't even reach 50kW but has a peak of 37ish kW, it's that embarassing
@christill
@christill 3 жыл бұрын
I haven’t been watching most of the car reviews recently but I was curious about what Mazda would do with their first EV. And it’s exactly what I expected. Lower range for 2020, lower charging speed for 2020, designed like a fossil car, old school dials, no touch screen. And that fake engine sound. I would be satisfied with that range personally, especially considering how many chargers there are now compared to when I bought my Zoe in 2016. But mainstream buyers won’t bite at that range I don’t think, no matter how good the charging network is. The Honda e can get away with the range and charging because of how cool it is. This car can’t do that.
@saliman4874
@saliman4874 3 жыл бұрын
thats what they want. to make EVs look stupid. this is what you want: Award Winning Design Meets Cutting Edge SKYACTIV Technology.
@andymccabe6712
@andymccabe6712 3 жыл бұрын
Er, NOT old school dials! Actually, digital dials imitating old school dials!! So - RETRO CHIC. ie COOL.......!!!
@saliman4874
@saliman4874 3 жыл бұрын
@@andymccabe6712 Honde E is retro cool, this is just lazy
@christill
@christill 3 жыл бұрын
@@andymccabe6712 I find digital instruments imitating analogue ones to be old school. I guess Mazda buyers generally like it.
@calvinteh3297
@calvinteh3297 3 жыл бұрын
This car is the result of less than half hearted effort.
@CJ-bg9wk
@CJ-bg9wk 3 жыл бұрын
Oh oh mr boss, we need electric car. Okay lets copy that i3 and put it in any housing.
@jord9261
@jord9261 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The looks aren't very mazda either they've copied multiple other brands
@Muppetkeeper
@Muppetkeeper 3 жыл бұрын
I can't work out who it is for. A big car with no room in the back that can't really go very far.
@terryrodbourn2793
@terryrodbourn2793 3 жыл бұрын
Guan Sim Teh I still go on feeling is in Electrical Cars Range is still King!
@Martin-se3ij
@Martin-se3ij 3 жыл бұрын
@@Muppetkeeper It's for the market of people who like doing test drives at the weekend.
@roodick85
@roodick85 3 жыл бұрын
Lol I see Mazda trying to sell some RX8 doors 😂
@madm4tty
@madm4tty 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t consider anything with less than 200 miles range, 250 is the sweet spot I feel.
@Yahgiggle
@Yahgiggle 3 жыл бұрын
same here, everytime i go out i do more than 200miles as in my job i drive long distances but hell even my partner does over 100 miles a day to get to her work and back home, yeah you can use this car for that type of trip but if suddenly you need to go somewhere else after work your F^%KED
@crowaust
@crowaust 3 жыл бұрын
200km range seems awfully limited, not even enough to go camping for the weekend, you'd barely get out of the suburbs in a major city before you'd have to turn around and go back. So it's a large City-car/Suburban-car for the soccer mums? (Just for some context I live on the Western suburbs of my local city and the distance to the North Coast area is about 140 to 160km one way, and the distance to South Coast area is about 100 to 120km one way, and the nearest decent camping to the West is anywhere from about 50 to 100km one way minimum.)
@joeloss3476
@joeloss3476 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry, why would you turnaround and go back? 200km sounds perfect for you actually. You do know you can charge up from any power point at or near your destination. Or just stop for 1/2hr on the way there or back to recharge.
@crowaust
@crowaust 3 жыл бұрын
@@joeloss3476 Real camping spots don't have power outlets. (A SUV/4x4 should have enough range to go camping without filling up, like it's not like local camping is a full road trip)
@joeloss3476
@joeloss3476 3 жыл бұрын
​@@crowaust Yes but you can charge up on the way there or back.
@crowaust
@crowaust 3 жыл бұрын
@@joeloss3476 And spend more time charging than driving? I'm pretty sure that Australia doesn't have that many fast chargers, so you'd be slow charging most of the time.
@joeloss3476
@joeloss3476 3 жыл бұрын
@@crowaust I think you'd be surprised how many there are already. I guess if adding an extra break of between 10 to 80 minutes (depending on the type of charger on the way to your destination, 150 to 22kW) will ruin you weekend then fair enough, it's not enough range for you.
@Isaac-un4cn
@Isaac-un4cn 3 жыл бұрын
This car would have been a respectable entry into the EV market 4 years ago.
@MalteDegener
@MalteDegener 3 жыл бұрын
Always loved Mazda for their design choices and the lovely, balanced way any Mazda drove that I sat in so far.
@Muppetkeeper
@Muppetkeeper 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful video again, it's like being at the cinema but without people coughing.
@squalloogal
@squalloogal 3 жыл бұрын
So glad these videos aren’t getting spammed with ads like the podcast episodes. I’ve stopped watching those. 12 - 16 ads in one show is beyond the pale. Hoping my KZfaq memberships help to keep these with only 1 or 2 ads.
@CiprianOlariu
@CiprianOlariu 3 жыл бұрын
I hope they'll give up on that CO2 reason and put bigger batteries in their future models. I would really love an electric version of CX-5 (MX-5?) with a range over 400km. And Mazda, please put a proper door in the back...
@tavakolmeskini3028
@tavakolmeskini3028 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing job Mazda ... It looks absolutely gorgeous.
@bernardfender5147
@bernardfender5147 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad Bob mentioned the de-misting, it was doing my head in!
@johnmurraycompton569
@johnmurraycompton569 3 жыл бұрын
If you have never driven a Mazda, you NEED to drive one of their sports cars.
@wermagst
@wermagst 3 жыл бұрын
I loved the Miata, but the MX-30 is a steaming pile of horseshit.
@johnmurraycompton569
@johnmurraycompton569 3 жыл бұрын
@@wermagst I was spoiled from the get go. My first car was an FC rx-7
@nicdensley4104
@nicdensley4104 3 жыл бұрын
A big bonnet for an imaginary engine.
@jonasweber9408
@jonasweber9408 3 жыл бұрын
For the PHEV version...
@boxingfan2281
@boxingfan2281 3 жыл бұрын
I agree Nic. A big bonnet for a car that’s designed from the ground up for EV doesn’t make sense. The back legroom comfort is clearly a lesser requirement than being able to put a combustion engine in the front for markets that won’t move across to Ev’s in the next 10 years.
@theelectricmonk3909
@theelectricmonk3909 3 жыл бұрын
@Flex En Masse "what were they thinking" - probably that it'd look fugly with a little tiny bonnet, and no-one would buy it. I actually quite like the front end, would like to see that on a normal saloon/estate version.
@TheRealVranesh
@TheRealVranesh 3 жыл бұрын
@Flex En Masse there will be a version with an ICE in it to extend the range. Mostly for countries like the US where the distances are a lot larger compared to EU countries
@boxingfan2281
@boxingfan2281 3 жыл бұрын
@@theelectricmonk3909 my point was that to absolutely disregard the ability to carry 4 or 5 people in the car against an aesthetic perception shouldn’t be what EVs are about. Ideally for countries and populations that can afford a number of cars per household the EV reduces the need for more by being utilised better and being more efficient. This is just a rather expensive addition to what we have already and doesn’t carry half the capacity of a vehicle a lot smaller. It’s only an opinion but I think this car is a complete fail on the concept of what an EV is. By the way I do also like the look of it, but don’t see the vision.
@Cloxxki
@Cloxxki 3 жыл бұрын
On a car that's nearly 2 tons and 4 meters...what keeps designers from adding the 10-20 cm extra that make the rear seat adult friendly?
@cbromley562
@cbromley562 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, Mazda’s of ‘green-wash’ marketing, keeping the art of the ‘ground up’ compliance vehicle alive.
@paulstubbs7678
@paulstubbs7678 3 жыл бұрын
One advantage to a larger battery is that the load on individual cells is reduced, which should result in a longer battery pack life.
@spt10182
@spt10182 3 жыл бұрын
Full lifecycle emissions is absolutely the right way to go when assessing environmental impact. You cant simply ignore the fact that the upstream side of producing anything has an impact!
@welfiblablabla
@welfiblablabla 3 жыл бұрын
I test drove it. Did like the interior but don't like the outside design. Also its tech felt outdated (bouncy LKA, old infotainment, start button, ...). One also notices on a lot of the car how it is a conplianve car, not an EV from ground up. Also for my needs I'd like a bigger battery around 50-60kWh. Finally I hate the sound it makes on the inside, silence is on of the strong points of an EV and than they make that shitty sound that I couldn't find if you can disable it. I prefered ID.3 in every aspect except interior quality of materials (and that as an owner of 2 Mazdas)
@andymccabe6712
@andymccabe6712 3 жыл бұрын
Well - I've yet to progress to owning a car WITH a start button(I'd love that....) so...........!!
@welfiblablabla
@welfiblablabla 3 жыл бұрын
@@andymccabe6712 I prefer how Tesla, Polestar 2 or ID.3 handle it: Just sit in it put in D and drive. No need to "start an engine" in aN EV
@Slebonson
@Slebonson 3 жыл бұрын
Iam sure a third party company will put a 100kwh battery on it in a few years.....
@patreekotime4578
@patreekotime4578 3 жыл бұрын
@@Slebonson huh? How is a third party going to reingineer the cooling path and rewrite all of the proprietary software? Why would anyone bother to do all of that on such an ugly vehicle? They wont sell many of them and will use it as an excuse to say they cant do EVs.
@Slebonson
@Slebonson 3 жыл бұрын
@@patreekotime4578 Don't worry your pretty little head I don't plan on buying one.
@jimmygee7717
@jimmygee7717 3 жыл бұрын
Love your intros... they are legendary
@megabassX
@megabassX 3 жыл бұрын
Finalyyyy... Thank you FullyChargedShow!
@zaphodsbluecar9518
@zaphodsbluecar9518 3 жыл бұрын
Mazda had those doors on the RX-8 years before the i3 had them...
@Poxenium
@Poxenium 3 жыл бұрын
The sweet spot for EV batteries is between 50kWh and 65kWh. 36kWh is stupid, IMO, they just didn't secure the supply in time, then made up a story about why their EVs are crap... same range as Dacia Spring. 🤦‍♂️
@djprojectus
@djprojectus 3 жыл бұрын
Dacia Spring might have more range. Will see today when it is revealed.
@DanRyzESPUK
@DanRyzESPUK 3 жыл бұрын
36 kWh is fine... If it's an urban car, like the Seat Mii, Honda E, etc. For this it's absolutely outdated. Mazda is taking this EV thing as a joke. Shake because they're an amazing brand.
@AM-ws1em
@AM-ws1em 3 жыл бұрын
As I already mentioned before, you can't get a 50kWh battery in that price range. It costs around 18k gbp in hungary as I suppose you know ;) and a bunch of other countries (like germany..) and how on earth could you compare it to the spring? 3.6m vs 4.4m length, 33kW vs 105kW, made in china vs made in japan, mobile toilet materials vs premium materials and build quality, shall i continue? :) so i'm more than happy to have the chance to buy it, since i don't give a damn about range over a 100miles, since i'm not a courier nor a taxi driver, and for longer journeys i use the cayenne (i think we can agree, that every family needs a nice sounding v8 for the weekend :)) )
@AsbjrnEliassen
@AsbjrnEliassen 3 жыл бұрын
The Dacia will probably be priced more correct.
@SWTrailsAndWheels
@SWTrailsAndWheels 3 жыл бұрын
You haven’t lived until you drop the top on an MX-5 and go for a spirited drive down a twisty country lane! My lord man! Where have you been?!?
@robinforrest7680
@robinforrest7680 3 жыл бұрын
Yep and internal combustion. Love my 1995 1.8iS 👍😁
@Furyswe1
@Furyswe1 3 жыл бұрын
This red is by far the most beautiful color in the world! As a former Mazda 6 owner, I like that they finally come out with an electric car for Europe. This particular car is not for my 5 person family, but i hope they replace the 6 and the bigger SUV:s soon.
@jaker3151
@jaker3151 3 жыл бұрын
Practically unusable rear seating is a deal breaker. You know something is wrong with the design when a compact SUV has similar or less leg room then a compact city car like the e-up, mii or citigo.
@madri0929
@madri0929 3 жыл бұрын
So...a quality design and fitment, and seems to be electric as an afterthought. For a theoretical $30,000.00 at the lower end in 2021, why? Its benefits are only relevant in comparison to another car in this category. That would be the model 3, obviously, at 37,900.00, today.
@DPortain
@DPortain 3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to buy a model 3 but there are lots of unpaved roads here in Sweden, and the small Teslas have too little ground clearance. This is a disappointing release though; I'm looking forward to the Citroen e-C4 instead.
@joshuajorgensen3820
@joshuajorgensen3820 3 жыл бұрын
Hi rob. I love you and the show. Thanks you so much for doing it. Just a little tip for your editors. Im a video editor and ive noticed that most of your videos have bad sound mixing. The problem is that the music is often way too loud and the vocal is too quiet in comparrison. Please ask your editors to do a sound check before publishing the video. Sorry for the winge. Hope it helps. Love you guys.
@kasperholmj
@kasperholmj 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice video and review as always. Also a very nice car indeed, like the size, design and form - I would buy it, if they had doubled the battery size.... Now I'll just scratch it of my shortlist....!
@davidgiles9751
@davidgiles9751 3 жыл бұрын
I really don't need an artificial "engine" sound in an EV, unless it's designed to drown out an annoying sound that the EV motors might translate into the cabin. PS: I think I'd rather buy a used later variant (longer range) VW eGolf over this Mazda.
@Travlinmo
@Travlinmo 3 жыл бұрын
Agree. Anytime I hear the engine sound I just roll my eyes and think STUPID.
@skagerstrom
@skagerstrom 3 жыл бұрын
Fake engine sound can be good to know what's going on though. Mazda is keen on mechanical feedback, and without an ICE it gets kind of numb. You don't NEED it, but I think I'd like it over nothing at all.
@Dongzzzzzz
@Dongzzzzzz 3 жыл бұрын
@@skagerstrom at least give an option of turning it off.
@westermolad
@westermolad 3 жыл бұрын
Given that range anxiety is still a primary consideration when considering an EV over an ICE car, Mazda either haven't done their research properly or this a compromised EV so they can stuff a petrol engine in it and call it a hybrid. No amount of marketing BS about a small battery being better for the environment will overcome the need for a reasonable range for potential EV owners, myself included. Very disappointing 🤨
@chrisr715
@chrisr715 3 жыл бұрын
A smaller battery is better for the environment. You have to consider other emissions besides CO2 during battery production, radioactivity from cobalt mines, destroying the water supply, and the difficulty of recycling batteries that have been damaged. All easier said than done. Also, how much of the grid is on renewables? For every solar or wind farm there's 10 nat gas, oil, or coal plants burning fuel to bring your car reliable power. You can't nick a company for wanting to lessen the impact of their car on the environment by putting in a smaller battery. It's the right thing to do tbh.
@westermolad
@westermolad 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisr715 I don't dispute that manufacturing smaller batteries is better for the environment, but Mazda are being disingenuous with their reasons for using a smaller battery. Having done some more research on this car, it is in fact a hybrid model that was designed for the Japanese market, which explains the small battery size. They are now launching it in the UK without the petrol engine and because it was never designed as a pure EV they cannot easily fit a bigger battery. I would never criticise a company that was genuinely attempting to improve its impact on the environment but this is clearly 'Greenwashing' to make up for a compromised design as a result of a commercial decision that is nothing to do with the environment.
@talkandplay
@talkandplay 2 жыл бұрын
Maxda is being a bit tongue in cheek with statement about smaller battery, apparently they are not fans of EV technology..The MX30 can still work for a lot of people but it could have been so much better if they had done their own market research better.
@traceymeyer3826
@traceymeyer3826 3 жыл бұрын
I'm pleased to hear that - finally - Mazda has come up with an EV. I, and my family, had owned three mazdas, two Proteges and a B2200 pickup truck -- loved all of them especially how grounded the wide wheel base made the driving. I envy you Robert because it will probably be at least 2yrs before they come to Canada.
@cez8017
@cez8017 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Robert and the Team! Great review! You area my favourite YT channel. Mazda should also make a larger battery version like Kia/Hyundai, Tesla, VW do. I want a car that is usuable always, not most of the time. Making a car only with a small battery is almost like making a car without an airbag which most of the time is never used too. :-)
@DogsBAwesome
@DogsBAwesome 3 жыл бұрын
The Japanese carmakers really want to hamstring their EV's this is not a small car 4.4M , so another compromised EV from Japan.
@calorus
@calorus 3 жыл бұрын
Errr. That's the same length as a Ford Focus. To every fair minded person, that is a small car.
@DaraM73
@DaraM73 3 жыл бұрын
Because they’re not interested in ditching their fossil fuel divisions, especially Honda. Toyota are dragging heals on EVs, they’ve stated they’re interested in hydrogen combustion conversion.
@DogsBAwesome
@DogsBAwesome 3 жыл бұрын
@@calorus compared to the ford focus or even my corsa-e it's compromised, with such a small battery in a car designed to be an EV it's almost like it's built to be unpractical.
@sterlingarcher4989
@sterlingarcher4989 3 жыл бұрын
All these cars are built to offset carbon emissions for the entire range, not compete with any car within it. Once the ICE is banned, you’ll see some nicer looking, more practical vehicles turn up.
@DogsBAwesome
@DogsBAwesome 3 жыл бұрын
@@sterlingarcher4989 I would be surprised if they sell enough of these to make their EU targets
@frapeyou
@frapeyou 3 жыл бұрын
Robert, they cant compete with tesla 300 mile range so they found a way (story) to tell if people ask about car being less then a tesla
@adibtheman
@adibtheman 3 жыл бұрын
I thought it was bad enough that American big auto is 5+ behind Tesla, but this shows that Mazda is 10+ years behind, which would be very surprising.
@frapeyou
@frapeyou 3 жыл бұрын
@@adibtheman the only positive I will give is at least they came out with an electric vehicle, the other car companies still haven't
@TassieLorenzo
@TassieLorenzo 3 жыл бұрын
Or: American EV owners are selfish and want to have a large battery even if it's bad for the environment?
@frapeyou
@frapeyou 3 жыл бұрын
@@TassieLorenzo bad for the environment because a car company said so, K, also if the range isent 300 miles for most it wont fit daily schedule, someone that drives 80 miles to a job and then 80 back needs a minimum of 200 miles to get to work, because this vehicle is inferior is not a great excuse to say ev buyers are greedy, nobody complains when a gas car has more gas storage
@yogajedi3337
@yogajedi3337 3 жыл бұрын
@@TassieLorenzo EV owners doesn't give a shit about the environment. Especially Tesla owners who just wants to be first out from the red light.
@anonymousppl4528
@anonymousppl4528 3 жыл бұрын
Great episode !
@Hiltsuk1
@Hiltsuk1 3 жыл бұрын
Great review thank you
@retrofreak05
@retrofreak05 3 жыл бұрын
LOVE Mazdas, I've had 5, I think they're the ultimate affordable drivers car. But I think I'll be skipping this one. And honestly, unless they can produce an EV with better range and more practicality soon, I may be done with Mazdas for awhile. Or at least until I can afford/justify a 3rd car at which point I'll happily drive a Miata again.
@holmd90
@holmd90 3 жыл бұрын
"I've never driven a Mazda before" sir you have been missing out
@MrLindsaydr
@MrLindsaydr 3 жыл бұрын
Being an i3 driver, the one feature that lets this down is the back doors. Look great but really impractical in car parks
@johnjohnson3447
@johnjohnson3447 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment about the heads up display.
@BHBeckenbauer
@BHBeckenbauer 3 жыл бұрын
Honda and Mazda have taken a very strange approach to EV’s!
@aritakalo8011
@aritakalo8011 3 жыл бұрын
The Honda E i can understand. It is pure city "shopping cart" car. Made as such, sized as such and emphasizing stuff like large steering lock for small turn radius. They optimized for a specific niche. It means it won't be a general seller, but given optimizing for a target audience might see some success for it's target. Ofcourse if they want to overall stay in car business.... They better come up with more models to the EV range, but The E isn't crazy proposition for a niche car. This MX30? is not fish nor fowl. It has too small battery compared to competition to be long range commute or general use car. However it is way too big and has huge overhand in front meaning it doesn't have the maneuverability and urban usability.
@manwithcorsae7738
@manwithcorsae7738 3 жыл бұрын
@@aritakalo8011 Yeah, Honda E looks like a great intro for Honda into making EV. Start small and do the research. Pity they didn't take lessons from Tesla, Nissan and others. They'd be much further along by now.
@aadi8568
@aadi8568 3 жыл бұрын
@Harry M it still looks great.
@vitexplorator4928
@vitexplorator4928 3 жыл бұрын
True issue, not mentionned is the relatively slow power of charge; no more than 50 kWh, apparently.
@harsimranbansal5355
@harsimranbansal5355 3 жыл бұрын
Small battery, lower charging speed. Even the ID 3 with the smallest battery gets like 50kw of max charging.
@quantumeseboy
@quantumeseboy 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful design! The car looks superb.
@spike378
@spike378 2 жыл бұрын
I literally thought you were Benny Hill for a second when your playing with the seat
@Mike_Costello
@Mike_Costello 3 жыл бұрын
Mazda said they’d never make an electric car. Did they change CEOs?
@ScootLetsGo
@ScootLetsGo 3 жыл бұрын
All manufacturers have to have an electric car within their line up by 2021 I believe to offset co2 emissions. For Europe. So lots of manufacturers such as Mazda don’t put to much effort into it.
@djprojectus
@djprojectus 3 жыл бұрын
@@ScootLetsGo So...a compliance car.
@solarfunction1847
@solarfunction1847 3 жыл бұрын
It doesn't have whoopee cushion effects. it only has 2 colors, small battery life, only good for riding around in the city.
@yogajedi3337
@yogajedi3337 3 жыл бұрын
Riding around the city, that's what EV:s are useful for. Who wants to sit at hassling, dead boring, charging stations for +30-60 minutes.
@hellcat1988
@hellcat1988 3 жыл бұрын
The battery size is probably more to do with battery availability than the co2 argument. They don't want the publicity black mark of having to halt production and stop taking reservations because they're out of batteries like so many other companies have done.
@js-hl5hv
@js-hl5hv 3 жыл бұрын
There are a few of these city EVs popping up now. I think they are a great idea, and city range tends to be far more than the quoted (pick your favourite test cycle) range. Honda and MINI went the same way, and produced cracking cars. The cheaper end may well get more people into EVs which is a good thing. Not every car needs to go 5000 miles per charge at 200mph (although I would love one that did :) ) and limiting the battery to a useful level for 99%+ of trips is a clever idea. Keep up the good work!
@jackolantern7342
@jackolantern7342 3 жыл бұрын
Odd decision to have no backseat plus those suicide doors. More importantly: 110 miles in 2020? The CO2 argument from them is weaksauce.
@McPeanuts
@McPeanuts 3 жыл бұрын
Rubbish range. Unusable in cold climates.
@pioneerz450
@pioneerz450 3 жыл бұрын
Why would it be unusable in cold climates?
@McPeanuts
@McPeanuts 3 жыл бұрын
@@pioneerz450 because of the rubbish range.
@larsjrgensen9984
@larsjrgensen9984 3 жыл бұрын
@@McPeanuts Could well be true. But in the somewhat chilly climate that I live in (currently -3C), the 80 km a day are not an issue. I have to admit though, that the couple of days between buying the car and getting the charger installed, were less than fun, since I had to charge daily.
@rogerhudson9732
@rogerhudson9732 3 жыл бұрын
Mazda pioneered the 'half rear coach door' decades ago, in the car with the Wankel engine. Fit and finish looks good for the price. I like the mains power outlet on the dash, same as the new Honda.
@Jerome54DXB
@Jerome54DXB 3 жыл бұрын
Don't mind all the other comments... The best part of the video is Robert's handbrake sound impression at the end!! 🤣
@andymccabe6712
@andymccabe6712 3 жыл бұрын
Hurrah!! You're not droning on about how SIMPLY AWFUL the car is! I'm beginning to like you.........!!
@classicraceruk1337
@classicraceruk1337 3 жыл бұрын
That fake sound would drive me crazy. It’s terrible and intrusive
@Tjomsasen
@Tjomsasen 3 жыл бұрын
It's not as intrusive in real life. I hardly noticed it while testdriving the car.
@classicraceruk1337
@classicraceruk1337 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tjomsasen That’s a relieve it sounded horrible. I would expect an electric car to be nearly silent. There are also ICE cars on the market with fake engine noise it’s pretty pathetic
@Poitda31
@Poitda31 3 жыл бұрын
Some governments and mandating audible revs from electric cars for safety reasons. If people could choose from a list or create their own sounds (with limits on volume) this could be more tolerable or even enjoyable. Imagine your favourite song playing
@DavidKnowles0
@DavidKnowles0 3 жыл бұрын
@@Poitda31 Yes but you can build systems that produce that sound in ways that the user of the vehicle will never hear unless they happen to be outside of the car.
@RomainSandt
@RomainSandt 3 жыл бұрын
@@Poitda31 yes but what's stupid with this regulation, in city drive, at red lights, a Renault Zoe makes more noise outside than a Clio with a modern petrol engine. When you're in Paris, most of the sound pollution comes from diesel. When a small hatchback drives by with a Petrol engine, it makes no sound. If we add different sounds to EVs, cities are going to face a new type of sound pollution.
@andyking894
@andyking894 3 жыл бұрын
I'm happy to see Mazda making strides into electric vehicles, but this is just about the most tone-deaf offering I've ever seen.
@Lloydmax
@Lloydmax 3 жыл бұрын
Lighter and cheaper (due to size) batteries are the way forward, but we will also therefore need more fast chargers
@jaimejia86
@jaimejia86 3 жыл бұрын
my dad had a mazda for 10 years (250.000 km) he never change or repair anything besides filters, Oil and tires, now he has two Mercedes and both had to be repair at some point (minor issues). Mazda reliability is impressive.
@hahtos
@hahtos 3 жыл бұрын
Meh at best. I'm amazed how the Japanese car industry is completely unable to see that the future is EV and it's here NOW. And this is after Nissan was the leader in EVs with the Leaf which they just let fizzle into irrelevancy. And the CEOs are still talking about how hydrogen is the future....
@RobertWhittaker1
@RobertWhittaker1 3 жыл бұрын
"Seats for children" - I wouldn't put my kids in there, too dark, and nowadays, kids are either in big car seats or they are to big for that space.
@mjk8019
@mjk8019 3 жыл бұрын
Exactl! It is actually easier to put adults in small cars than kids. The seats take a lot of space, and even in my Nissan Leaf, they just barely fit.
@Tjomsasen
@Tjomsasen 3 жыл бұрын
I'm about 6', and could sit comfortably behind myself. But I agree. The car isn't practical for families, but for someone who drives short distances and wants an incredibly comfortable and exciting to drive EV with more than enough cargo space, the MX-30 is brilliant value (for an EV).
@andyking894
@andyking894 3 жыл бұрын
My thought was "seats for pets." This seems like an interior designed specifically for DINK influencers, whose dogs' Insta pages do better than their own.
@RobertWhittaker1
@RobertWhittaker1 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tjomsasen For the money (for what would be a second car for the family) , a Zoe stacks up better. I could see this as a no kids car.
@manwithcorsae7738
@manwithcorsae7738 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tjomsasen The MG, with more space, more range and many more features is the slightly less. This is a compliance car and Mazda are showing their ICE colours by producing it. Some manufacturers need to see which way the wind is blowing or they could end up being ex-manufacturers.
@trustnoone270
@trustnoone270 2 жыл бұрын
Considering that Mazda is being sincere about their reasons to have a smaller battery, they have my support. Electrification through batteries (instead of hydrogen cells) have a huge environmental impact, due to mining activities. So, having a smaller battery equals less impact. 200km is okay to most people.
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