Can you please make a video about Mary's hagiographies in Ethiopic texts and the Orthodox tradition?

Taiwan is still legally chinese territory, they just don't recognise Beijing as the government. we really need to stop spreading this lie that Taiwan is independent. it will be independent when they actually declare independent. until then, no major country, including EU and US recognise Taiwan. we can't recognise what doesn't 'yet' exist. don't just repeat what some politician say for their own benefit, they are not being honest. Taiwanese are oppose to de-chinese policy because it is stupid, Matsu is a chinese religion, Min and Hakka are Chinese dialect, to whitewash history because it does not support their political agenda is really disgusting. you can't just delete culture. could you imagine if the american founding father say christianity is a threat because the british are christian and they can use christianity to control how american think? do you really understand what these "taiwanification" politician are real saying?

Sounds like he already gained his personal

Almost every regent from ancient history:

It's like Augustus claiming to be the son of a god.

Sounds awful familiar 😅

​@@ryshow9118 A tale as old as time.

😂😂😂

More like a saint

The last time a Chinese person claimed to be son of God started a civil war that killed 20 million people.

He could also be a virgin 😂

Sounds like jesus lying all.over again

In Taiwan, for many people, Mazu, the Virgin Mary, and Guanyin are more or less three faces of a similar entity too.

I am really interested in the religious practices that you sited,might please provide more details on them?

I went to La Union, Philippines and visited Ma-Cho Temple. They have pamphlets and a website explaining the syncretism of Mazu and the Virgin Mary. The temple was soooo serene and the temple was overlooking the sea.

​@tc2334 Mother Marry is not considered a deity. She is thought of as the "mother of God". And in islam she is considered the mother of a mighty prophet.

@@Lion_Hamza Yeah. I know. I didn’t say she was a deity though.

Thanks for your insight, more stuff to learn!

The two are displayed in 10:35 for example

​@@d512634thank you for the timepoint!

that's true for mainland China also

This kind of merging or syncretism is pretty common. I don't know what it's like in the PRC because everything about China is heavily politicized and with certain subjects propaganda interferes with real academic fact, but in Japan for example there is a term Shinbutsu for the syncretism of Buddhism and Shinto which is effectively what has become of Shinto, the national religion, as a whole. Buddhism itself seems to lend to syncretism more than most if not all other mainstream religious beliefs- It's just highly compatible with other ways of thought and other belief systems, and as a consequence of being changed in different ways by the systems with which it has merged, there are now also wildly different forms of Buddhism that increase its overall compatibility even more. Christianity does not seem to be as intercompatible with other (non-Buddhist) belief systems, but just from its sheer spread and popularity it has also been syncretised endlessly with other religions. Even the most popular form of Christianity, Catholicism, is actually a syncretic merge of early Christianity and a late Greco-Roman religion called Orphism.

Here in general santos their a church here dedicated to Our Lady of Peace & Good Voyage! Sailors & fishermen here ask for her protection, maybe its all connected to this Taiwanese goddess for seafarers, as their are chinese Catholics here too

Interesting way of Chinese religion blending with Christianity

did she grant u anything?

@@fannyalbi9040usually only Western religion folks want something in return from divine beings. Eastern folks want to understand more about the religions to improve on personal level. Just like how we perceive love as unconditional in the east, take the vows seriously. hence, much lower divorce rates.

did she grant you any wish?

@@fannyalbi9040i never prayed to her before. maybe i should try

Thank you for sharing

The ancestral spirits protect the home

Yeah the East Asian religious milieu in general is alien to most Westerners, even Islam is more familiar than the mix of Buddhism, Confucianism, and folk religion of the region

Family spirit guards the house. Your in the house so you should pay respects to it

Thai person (and former anthro student) here; yeah, it seems like Southeast Asia has a long history of venerating local spirits in addition to Buddhism. Nat worship in Myanmar is a good example, as is that of Nang Nak, who is a legendary “ghost” of a woman who died when her husband was at war and waits for him to return. Thai “Spirit houses”, or tiny shrines dedicated to local spirits are found in a large percentage of homes as well.

Some Catholic countries also have those huge processions, where they carry the statue in a big parade.

Abrahamic cults are all evil.

Idolatry

That is wrong brother the sacrements of churches from katholikos - catholic and orthodox and every old churches of the east dont worship saints and marry. In churchs tradition and biblical account the person faithful in life and until matyred is a saint for they have follow christ through suffering christ also make them children of god and they are leavin so you pray to the saints and marry to pray for you and understand they are a good example. Ask marry and saints to pray for you as it is you as a fsmily member to pray with you so it not worship it veneration

​@@thisnthat7760jesus is idolatry

@@thisnthat7760then stop worshipping Apollo and Jupiter and calling them Jesus and God

Yeah, though thats primarily from a religious dependency, such as how Christians called the pope "Father" This guy literally said he is Mazu's God-son directly

Tian Hou Gong, which is a temple for Mazu, has been the oldest Chinese temple since 1800s…

Yes! I got to visit her temple when I went to Macau. It was so beautiful.

Well, they all derived from the same, right? 媽祖 -> using "a" (阿) as a simplifying term like 阿伯　-> 阿媽

yes, mazu gave macau it's Portuguese and English name, macau came from 妈港，ma(zu) port

you mean theisms

And not even the cool kind of Christianity

@@Texasmade74 he could mean deism; worship of a different supreme deity than that of the Abrahamic religions

​@@4rtieThat's not what deism means though

@@4rtie Deism doesn't mean religions in general

but it is very divided, it is not having clear hierarchy like in Vedas or other writting recirds is

@@equilibrum999 they do have a clear hierarchy in Daoism. The rest is just folk Daoism.

@@conho4898 then who is the highest god here, is it 三清, 上帝 or 玉帝？

@@equilibrum999 well according to Daoism, 三清 are the highest, with 玉帝 right below, and 上帝 is just another manifestation of 玉帝.

Mazu is very tal!

In fact, they also used the iconography of Guan Yin bodhisattva to represent the virgin Mary.

She is maybe also the grandmother of the Vikinggod Odin!

有趣。請問下一次慶典是什麼時候呢？

hah, i'll take it. That "z" phoneme was driving me crazy.

@@ReligionForBreakfastThe ping-yin system could be confusing, but it is actually just “ts” sound with minimal air coming out of your lips. (Hang a tissue paper infront of your mouth while trying to pronounce the “ts” sound, if the tissue paper doesn’t move, then you are doing it right!) The same goes with b,d,g. B is just un-exhaled p; d is just un-exhaled t; g is just un-exhaled k.

@@ReligionForBreakfastThe older generations of ethnic Chinese in Malaysia (60+ now) and those receiving pure Chinese education usually cannot pronounce ‘z’ the western way. For example, my mother (77y) will use the Mazu style of ‘z’ to pronounce the word zoo, and it would sound like ‘joo’, zip would sound like ‘jip’.

Interesting.

Huh interesting.

Really which video

@miguelatkinson h is series debunking Noah's flood in particular the video that talks about mythology debunking Noah's flood.

@@grapeshot O yeah I think watched that video before

@@grapeshot aron ra is cringey

@@Texasmade74 he is the one that brought me into atheism I'll always be grateful to him for that

Sangam texts also mention Kadalon as the god of the sea, now identified with Varuna.

Sea deities are very useful and easy to conceptualize naturally, because the sea is always uncertain, dangerous, and its storms and waves seemingly have infinite power, it is a force to either be feared, drawn on through worship, or to be tamed by supernatural forces, sailors especially would find spiritual comfort in being able to somehow communicate with powers governing the uncertain ocean

How long have you worshipped Mazu for?

@@Texasmade74 before my birth when I was in my mother’s womb, Mazu knew me already. As my birth is blessed by her when my mom pray in her temple to wish me a good life to come.

​@@Joxinus how's your life now? Did Masuk grant your mother wish already?

@@TakaTinHey I would say yes, I am satisfied with my peaceful and blessed life. However, faith isn't all about wishes coming true, it's more about the relationship built in between. The relationship deepens and strengthens through every pilgrimage I participated in in the last decade. I also brought others with me on the pilgrimage and found them feeling saved and became devoted afterward.

@@Joxinus I hope I have faith like you. The problem with this is that the deity claimed as it can grant wishes. Like that's the reason people go to worship in the first place.

syncretism is religious and most scholars of religion would say the same thing

Mazu and her worship go back over 1000 years though

​@@Texasmade74Yes, and Mazu worship seems to influence Japan after WWII.

@kimandre336 Asian deities, especially from places like China,Korea,and Japan, don't stay in just one place for long

Interesting.

I mean understandable, definitely what pantheon gods and goddesses are.

Chinese folk religion not mythology

Do you worship her or any other deities?

U mean an immigrant in taiwan?

Must be like Japanese festivals

are there a lot of hoklos in vancouver? (why do you expect to see mazu)

Mostly Cantonese people, and Andrew did note that Mazu is popular in Guangdong. Also there is a fair amount of Taiwanese people.

Usually, Buddhists will pray to Guanyin, while Taoists will pray to Mazu.

@@peterkhew7414 People i know don't draw a clear line between taoism and buddhism, it's all melted together

even tho large portions of Chinese Canadians would be from cultural subgroups of costal southern China that worships Mazu, my guess would be that Guanyin is just a lot more generally popular among all of the the Chinese community, Guanyin also covers more general prayer demands while Mazu is more specialized for life around the sea

She's Taiwan's patron goddess.

You could easily google Daoist gods and there many accurate sources for Chinese folk religion online

Daoism has hundreds of gods, so yes it's very much polytheistic.

@conho4898 some people in the west tend to only look at Daoism from the philosophy angle which is dishonest and overlook or ignore the fact that Daoism has blended with Chinese folk religions over the course of Daoism' existence

Dude are you kidding…..heard of Toa Pek Kong? Guan yu?

A significant portion of Chinese people may casually engage in worship or superstitious activities without subscribing to any specific sect or become a member organized religion, even those who participate occasional worship often do not identify as being religious. I am an atheist but I see religious practices as a part of my family's cultural life, the actual beliefs play no role in how I really engage with the world, this is a common way of seeing religion in China, whether identifying as atheists or somewhat religious. I think one could make some interesting comparisons to Japanese religiosity. Note what I just said mainly applies to the majority ethnic group the Han (90% of the population), Minority groups that traditionally have significant religious populations also exist, like Tibetans who are often Tibetan Buddhists or Bon (the indigenous Tibetan Shamanist religion), Hui are traditionally Han who converted to Islam + additional populations of Muslims, Uyghur are often Muslims too, plus many members of groups who choose not to be religious etc... Lastly the government is officially atheistic (and all public officials must be atheists), and policy wise maintains secularism in the public sphere, however it administrates and supports legal religious organizations, sometimes prescribing changes to religious practices, and invite religious figures (the 11th Panchen Lama is a good example) to participate in the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conferences for policy discussions. Another interesting thing is that many historical religious temples might become administered as secular public museums who no longer serve as places of worship, or the opposite, where the state supporting construction of new religious facilities.

@@My-nl6sg in other words, they attempted to uproot religions but fail, so they created a way around it by somehow controlling religions a bit.

@@andromedamessier3176 Chinese governments had been using/controlling religion for centuries back in the imperial days that isn't much news. The serious attempt to abolish religion was only a thing in the 70s, and policy before and after had basically been what I described.

@@andromedamessier3176 typical Westerner. Someone’s gives a nuanced answer and you pick and choose what you want and dumb it down to give yourself a pat on the back 😂