Don't Believe the Lie: Why "Practice Makes Perfect" is NOT Always True!

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Жыл бұрын

Technique is important. Technique is important. Technique is important.
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@danieldayton3064
@danieldayton3064 Жыл бұрын
Cal Ripken used to say, "Practice doesn't make perfect; perfect practice makes perfect."
@conard5381
@conard5381 Жыл бұрын
Wasn’t he a ball player of some sort. Lol 😅
@fdub301
@fdub301 Жыл бұрын
The only way to get to perfect practice is thru imperfect & sometimes downright poor practice
@jerrylong381
@jerrylong381 Жыл бұрын
Hi Kevin, I am 61 and have been riding off and on since I was 18. Back then I never heard the term "counter steer". The people I rode with just said things like "you have to lean into the corner" and, :never use your front brake". When I did learn the concept of counter steering, I was told that if I wanted to go left, I needed to turn right and then let the bike follow the line unless correction was needed. This gave me a much greater since of control. But I had trouble passing it on to some other riders. I have never had a rider safety course, but just bought a Heritage Softail that is the heaviest bike I have owned. So I will be taking a course and doing parking lot practice. I am passing my Sportster to my son and we will be practicing and riding together. He has only ridden a couple of times so I want him to learn the proper techniques to keep him as safe as possible. I have turned him on to your channel and have been discussing the principles you put forth while we get the bikes in good mechanical order. Thanks for all you do.
@noidreculse8906
@noidreculse8906 Жыл бұрын
I reviewed the MSF training course just a couple years ago. I am 71, and have been riding since a teen. I never heard of counter steering either. The class review helped me with slow speed maneuvering, like around gas pumps. I had a Street Glide and tipped it over a few times. The concept of feathering the clutch was new to me too. I learned a wet clutch can slip and not harm it. The concept of holding the throttle at 1500 rpms and just slipping the clutch, while you drag the rear brake. Amazing what you can do, especially if you look where you are going 😂
@kurt4409
@kurt4409 Жыл бұрын
Practice makes habit. If you practice it wrong, you perform it wrong when needed.
@jamesberry276
@jamesberry276 7 ай бұрын
I'm an experienced rider with 40+ years of motorcycle riding. I've learned from these videos bigtime! You are quite the wordsmith. The way you make your points explaining things is thorough and cannot be misunderstood. Thanks for the helpful instruction!
@treefrog0826
@treefrog0826 Жыл бұрын
When you start practicing in a parking lot that’s when most will realize “Maybe” I’m not as good at this as I thought and it seems that a lot of the time it’s the riders who have years of riding on the streets but really don’t have that much skill on a motorcycle. Yes that was me but I’m better now then I was and it definitely knocked me down and brought me to reality and that’s a good thing….
@seniorrider9337
@seniorrider9337 Жыл бұрын
In complete agreement. I have always had an issue with " master my techniques and be a master of your motorcycle" type of instruction. You only "think" you are master of the bike, until you aren't, giving one an elevated sense of confidence. I still remember Officer Ballentine from the police department in the city where I was going through an MSF riders course. He said one is never a master of a machine and when you think you are, then that is when you would learn something new. Practice is important to keep one's skills current and muscle memory sharp!
@JoshuaOne_Nine
@JoshuaOne_Nine Жыл бұрын
PERFECT practice makes perfect. That was reinforced when I was studying music in college. Love these videos and every time I ride, I think of all these tips you’ve been providing.
@alexroberts590
@alexroberts590 Жыл бұрын
I do those techniques. Hard stopping and swerving. Stopping in a corner. Slow speed cone maneuvering. I stay within the perimeter of the state regulations that I learned in class. Sometimes I'll meet up with a friend and we'll help each other with simulations. (We try to throw the wrench into the machine)"hypothetically" We mix up the scenario on swerving and breaking to give the unpredictable moments. I really like to ride my motorcycle. But like ANYTHING you love to do it takes practice to be successful.
@ianboard3555
@ianboard3555 Жыл бұрын
There is a quote I like from Vince Lombardi: "practice doesn't make perfect, perfect practice makes perfect". It means when you are practicing something, do it as deliberately and carefully as you can, paying attention to details.
@elmerfudd5650
@elmerfudd5650 10 ай бұрын
Practice helps you learn from actual experiences. Learning is a continuous process.
@stevenlawrence2790
@stevenlawrence2790 Жыл бұрын
44 & Spent years on all types of 2 wheelers ..that said, even if used to big dirt bikes, Street bikes are different & leaves room for additional learning 😅
@jameyhinds
@jameyhinds Жыл бұрын
Piano teacher told me: "Practice makes permanent." I used that slogan with my baseball and softball teams.
@markadkins9290
@markadkins9290 Жыл бұрын
Like I told my Marines teaching them to shoot better, practice makes permanent!
@jeffreyporras3839
@jeffreyporras3839 Жыл бұрын
I believe practicing figure 8’s in as small a space possible helps with use of friction zone, throttle, brake, and head an eyes when doing left turns, right turns, u-turns and emergency brake and swerve turns because all require operations to perform figure 8’s when practicing in as small a space possible.
@-JohnSmith-
@-JohnSmith- Жыл бұрын
The hardest thing I've found to practice is overcoming Target fixation in a panic because it's impossible to re-create
@wallyr.7854
@wallyr.7854 Жыл бұрын
Kevin, what can I say other than WE LOVE YOU ☺️Thanks for all you do, keeping us safe and smart out there, you ROCK 👊🏻
@beepbop6697
@beepbop6697 Жыл бұрын
1:12 left foot down is a requirement for tall bikes. On one extreme of the spectrum you have the very tall (seat height) adventure bikes where you can't "flat foot" it unless you are Paul Bunyan. Then there are the bikes on the other end of the spectrum (low cruisers) that a toddler could flat foot. For me, I'm a left foot down only person. But if it is a heavy cruiser with a passenger on a windy day: then both feet will be down to ensure stability is fine -- just learn the technique so you are ready when you move up from cruisers to other style of bikes.
@judeschexnyder8008
@judeschexnyder8008 Жыл бұрын
Great advice Kevin. I enjoy taking the Total Control Intermediate Clinic every time I acquire a "new to me" motorcycle. This reinforces correct technique and helps me to feel how those techniques translate to a different machine.
@Lunatic-Fringe31
@Lunatic-Fringe31 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for continuing to share knowledge. I've only ridden for a few years, and I regularly watch channels like yours, Robert Simmons, and Motojitsu. I've learned so much and it has helped me continue to develop my riding skills. Be safe and keep the rubber side down! ✌️
@Temetnosce77
@Temetnosce77 Жыл бұрын
Perfect practice, equals perfect.
@muhumuzalucky5589
@muhumuzalucky5589 Жыл бұрын
Greetings Riders. Tuned on from Uganda😎
@DavidSmith-br4vt
@DavidSmith-br4vt Жыл бұрын
Happy Friday Kevin thank you for sharing my friend praying you and your family have a blessed weekend
@eddcurry1245
@eddcurry1245 Жыл бұрын
Another great topic, comments, and video. You are correct that practice can reinforce either good or bad habits…
@MKandKCCampbell
@MKandKCCampbell Жыл бұрын
Thanks Kevin. Your videos are extremely helpful. I appreciate all you do. Keep up the good and important work.
@jamesbird8420
@jamesbird8420 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Kevin, totally agree an expression I learned years ago practice makes improvement. I hope one day I'm able to take your training class.
@rogerkerin1622
@rogerkerin1622 Жыл бұрын
MC Rider you have given me Priceless life information and it has saved me quite a few times already thank you very much
@shepherdwarrior777
@shepherdwarrior777 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your expert advice.
@joek81981
@joek81981 Жыл бұрын
I think that member map is a great idea.
@gradbuckie
@gradbuckie Жыл бұрын
Practice makes progress.
@justanotherviewer52
@justanotherviewer52 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Kevin.
@stevenlawrence2790
@stevenlawrence2790 Жыл бұрын
Even better "practice reinforces training" 👍
@gregm9230
@gregm9230 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for that reality check, Kevin. 👍
@hangnwithdosei3266
@hangnwithdosei3266 Жыл бұрын
Practice Polishes Proficiency Redundancy Reinforces
@stevenlawrence2790
@stevenlawrence2790 Жыл бұрын
Smaller bikes, only left foot down is fine. Bigger 800/900lb bikes both feet down is better especially if there is a passenger
@thedude2601
@thedude2601 Жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear about the left foot down philosophy. One should always be in total control of the bike. Contact any insurance claims adjuster who oversees motorcycle claims and fatalities or a Paramedic that rides. Always interesting and informative, thank you.
@Dogatemyhomework927
@Dogatemyhomework927 Жыл бұрын
I put both feet down but I’m glad to practice only left foot down. It comes in handy when stopped going uphill.. unless you have hill lock!!
@thedude2601
@thedude2601 Жыл бұрын
@@Dogatemyhomework927 Yes, but having the rear wheel "locked" with the brake doesn't allow the bike to absorb much energy from the impact of the suv that just rear ended you. The front tire will skid forward much easier than the wider rear tire when hit from behind hopefully reducing the chance of neck, spine and whiplash injuries. In most cases the motorcycle only moves forward 2 to 4 feet from point of impact. Hope this helps.
@Dogatemyhomework927
@Dogatemyhomework927 Жыл бұрын
@@thedude2601 so how do you keep your bike stopped when you’re pointing uphill? All front brake? I bet you don’t live in Seattle or San Francisco
@thedude2601
@thedude2601 Жыл бұрын
@@Dogatemyhomework927 Yes, i take advantage of my hill assisted (HHC) linked brakes every chance I get. Thank you HD. Yes, the only time i ever got rear ended was by a whacked out hippy/yippy type at the bottom of Lombard street and Hyde. Had my rear pads been overheated or rear wheel locked I wouldn't be here. That's according to the SFPD mototorcycle cops, the best in the world writing the report.
@Oriole21
@Oriole21 Жыл бұрын
Perfect practice makes perfect was a saying my HS music teacher would use.
@Birdoneful
@Birdoneful Жыл бұрын
You are the best
@bissellsmith8690
@bissellsmith8690 Жыл бұрын
Good weekly input. Thanks. We both are in the same area...what course near Fort Worth do you recommend?
@robertgutheridge9672
@robertgutheridge9672 Жыл бұрын
I have no doubt I have room for improvement on my riding skills i also personally think that diversity of riding is also a way to improve skill set I ride on the street on my BMW I ride Motocross i also ride Enduro now I regularly ride one of four different bikes each bike handle slightly differently But that combination help to add to my overall riding ability Motocross and riding in the dirt Adds to controlling the bikein the sliding situations although sliding on the dirt and sliding on asphalt are very different I've spent a lot of time trying to work on my skills and I have no doubt even after riding a motorcycle for 40 years that there are places I could improve and on top of everything else wearing the proper gear. I can replace motorcycle parts human flesh grows back to a point but the older i get the slower i heal
@baronvonchickenpants6564
@baronvonchickenpants6564 Жыл бұрын
Perfect practice
@jimfarnell5813
@jimfarnell5813 Жыл бұрын
Perfect practice does make perfect… perfect practice is sourced from professional instruction under professional eyes & criticism… THEN practice till you get it right-keep practicing till you cannot get it wrong… rinse & repeat at least once per year…
@frankwalker8897
@frankwalker8897 9 ай бұрын
Hello gdm bro how's everything were great my question is it's it best to be able to see everything through both of your mirros
@threedogracing
@threedogracing Жыл бұрын
A friend once told me, practice make permanent, perfect practice makes perfect.
@ClayAddams
@ClayAddams Жыл бұрын
I have an automatic Vitacci Hornet (150cc) and I’m really needing a basics tutorial, slow speed control, keeping a steady speed and safe distances from other objects, like cars, curbs, ditches, etc. Any tips would be greatly appreciated!
@clasieclaassen5365
@clasieclaassen5365 Жыл бұрын
With the high rate of crime(violent) in South Africa I can not practice on a parking lot. Every day of the week they are filled with cars and at night it is too dangerous. Another problem is that most parking lots are either closed or even behind locked gates at night. Cars parking is nose to nose with a pavement curb in between. So I'm left with the road during daytime.
@jerrylong381
@jerrylong381 Жыл бұрын
Is there anywhere that you can get out of the city and practice on roads that have light traffic? Or maybe industrial areas that have light traffic? Ride safe friend. From Missouri, USA
@dracphelan
@dracphelan Жыл бұрын
I don't have the money to do it yearly. But, I take the basic course every 3 years. This keeps up the discount I get from my insurance company.
@MrBCRC
@MrBCRC Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that you're selling rider training and have to make a living. That's an observation and not a criticism. But a rider only needs to take a course once because everything in that course should be usable on the street (that's the value of the course) and because you will use it on the street you will maintain that skill. If someone takes a course and doesn't use those skills on the road, every day, over the ensuing years then it shouldn't be in the course... or the instructor f'd up. To actually gain value from a course, the instructor needs to find ways for riders to reinforce those skills daily, without risk, in the environment where those skills matter... and that environment isn't a carpark, it's the street. One example I would put forward is emergency break and avoid. Say you've got no other vehicles around you and you're approaching a red light. There's nothing that says you cannot approach on one side of your lane and then while breaking heavily switch to the other side of the lane. The reason you're learning that skill in a carpark is so that you have it when you're on the street. If you cannot do it on the street then the course has failed. The reason you're taking the course is so that one day when it matters you'll be able to avoid an accident. But if you've never practised outside of a carpark then you're doomed to fail on the street.
@pseudotonal
@pseudotonal 11 ай бұрын
I taught my piano students, "Perfect practice makes easy."
@markkromer1238
@markkromer1238 Жыл бұрын
I just bought my first motorcycle. It's a 1996 BMW r850r. I may not not get on the road with it anytime soon and may not even start with this bike.
@doitdamnit
@doitdamnit Жыл бұрын
Practice makes permanent!
@brianthomas6720
@brianthomas6720 Жыл бұрын
hi do you have a vido on up hill from stop im moving to condo with undergrond parking not sure about stopping 1/2 way up if need be Thanks
@MCrider
@MCrider Жыл бұрын
I don’t have the link, search KZfaq for “MCrider stop on a hill” 👍🏻
@brushbum7508
@brushbum7508 Жыл бұрын
Good Morning ! TAKE CARE..
@kannermw
@kannermw Жыл бұрын
Practice all you want but in an emergency, advanced rider aids are your best savior. Those selling skills training are fine but consider advanced 6-axis IMU (lean angle ABS and traction control will outperform any human > 99% of the time). This tech can do things no human can duplicate under the unpredictable conditions on the street that often lead up to an accident. Such tech also requires a much different approach to how a rider reacts to such interventions and how to leverage the technology to its fullest to reduce as much speed as quickly as possible in shortest distance all the while maintaining full control. The sad part is the truth about this new tech reality which is surprisingly now very affordable is lost in the lore of the past (falsely debated) and the insane idea that one's mystically honed skill sets will completely set them apart from human failings in a panic situation. From my perspective high situational awareness, anticipating potential risks, and mitigating them are far greater traits that increases your reaction time and likelihood of avoiding any potential accident. As people age skills such as visual acuity, reaction times, mental focus, can degrade slowly. This then becomes the unfortunate precursor to a bad ending regardless of years riding or skills acquired.
@OnenThomas-cw7py
@OnenThomas-cw7py 2 ай бұрын
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@kodiak536kodiak536
@kodiak536kodiak536 Жыл бұрын
Your assumptions of training is only done in a parking lot bothers me. Your assumptions of rider forgetting what they learned in a year is also bothering me. Your assumptions of riders, new or experienced CAN'T retain what they learned from basic course is bothersome to me and frankly an insult. I DON'T need to "practice" in an open parking lot to be "proficient" in riding my Goldwing. EVERY DAY I RIDE, I'm "practicing" my skills I learned in the basic course back in 1978. Do I remember every single technique from then, HECK NO! I'm 64 this year, can't remember what I ate for breakfast yesterday😁🤫 That being said, what I learned in 1978, which I try to practice out on the road every day I ride, keeps me safer than any "average Joe" who never do. Riding motorcycle to me is not only about enjoyment/thrills. It's also a lesson skills development in what I do and WHY I ride. I do see your point but, I also disagree with needing "practice" in an open parking lot to orepare for some moron surprising you on the road, which no practice can prepare you for. Expect the unexpected is what kept me riding this long without getting killed. The 2 times we got rear ended on our bike, we could NEVER practice in ANY location at any time. Numerous times cagers surprised me, I was able to avoid a mishap due to my "skills" I honed on the road every day I ride...expecting the unexpected.
@brianbowling7025
@brianbowling7025 Жыл бұрын
You're only practicing the skills that you're actively practicing when you're riding. If you're riding a lot of curves then you're practicing cornering. If you're hitting a bunch of yellow lights and actually stopping then you're practicing emergency stops. I can't imagine that Kevin would tell you that you can't practice basic road strategy in a low traffic neighborhood or a cul-de-sac. What Kevin and folks like Motojitsu and Jerry Palladino and Robert Simmons advocate is to practice your skills at reacting to those unexpected scenarios you mention, in the safest environment available to you. I find that if I spend 5-10 minutes at the beginning of each ride practicing mild quick stops and weaves that I not only warm the bike up, but I put myself into the right frame of mind.
@seniorrider9337
@seniorrider9337 Жыл бұрын
The two times you were rear ended means you never practiced watching your mirrors to keep yourself aware of others around you.
@LTVoyager
@LTVoyager Жыл бұрын
I am similar age (63) and ride a similar bike (K1200LT) and also was a Total Control BRC instructor. I think you are reading things into the video that he didn’t say or imply. I saw no assumption that all practice has to take place in a parking lot. However, parking lots are a safe place to practice slow speed maneuvers. Practicing u-turns on a busy highway isn’t all that smart, particularly if you misjudge and drop the bike in the face of oncoming traffic. Much better to practice such maneuvers in a place without traffic. And high speed practice is best done on a race course. I certainly practice often on the street. I practice maintaining balance at stop lights by trying to do a “slow race” the last 50’ or so and try to avoid stopping before the light turns green. If I am on a road with little traffic (easy to do in rural PA), I will pretend that tar snakes or similar things on the road are obstacles and make a swerve to avoid them. Practice can happen almost anywhere, but many things are best practiced in a parking lot or on a track. I think the idea of forgetting basic stuff was somewhat exaggerated. I have no problem remembering the basics and even the advanced stuff. Then again, I read a lot and am a retired engineer and understand motorcycle dynamics pretty well so things like counter-steering are second nature to me. I am amazed at how many people don’t have any understanding at all of this aspect of two-wheel vehicles, and I am even more amazed that, last I checked anyway, both MSF and Total Control don’t even teach counter-steering correctly and well know instructors like Motorman don’t fully understand the dynamics either. The way you tell if someone really understands the physics is whether they teach that there is a “magic speed” below which counter-steering ceases to work and you have to switch to “direct” steering. That is pure myth and is the dead giveaway of someone who doesn’t really understand counter-steering.
@kodiak536kodiak536
@kodiak536kodiak536 Жыл бұрын
@senior rider NO, 2 times We got rear ended, they hit us at a stop light, whee I watch traffic. I CAN'T look every direction at once and I'm 100% positive YOU can't either.
@kodiak536kodiak536
@kodiak536kodiak536 Жыл бұрын
@LTVoyager jmJust to clarify. I DON'T PRACTICE on the road. U-turns, emergency stops etc, etc. That's completely stupid and irresponsible. I actively "practice" maneuvers without impeding traffic on open road. NO, I don't practice actively or otherwise doing U-turns in the middle of busy roads as you imply. That too is stupid. I might be older but no senile. I watch Kevin's video for input and content. See if there's anything I might refresh myself that I might have forgotten since my basic course 45 years ago.
That corner was going so smoothly until… Why riders crash in corners.
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