Alitalia flight AZA1752 from Rome Fiumicino to Hong Kong Kai Tak landing at runway 31.
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@thesundaydriver783 жыл бұрын
I know the captain really well as I did, almost 20 years ago, my instrument training and commercial flight training with him. He was TRE and TRI in Alitalia on MD11 and B747. He has been one of the youngest pilot upgraded to captain till that time among the company. I still have really good memories of that part of my life as a pilot and, if today I am flying as a captain on a liner, I have to be grateful to this man. In these days in aviation you will struggle to find a captain giving the chance to first officer to land on a such challenging airport!
@ChevyNova19833 жыл бұрын
in your opinion, when one of the pilots said " where he is going ? " what did he refer to ?
@gabrieleambrosini58222 жыл бұрын
Una volta in pensione è stato il mio istruttore nel conseguimento del PPL... Mi ha insegnato un infinità di cose.. Ma soprattutto il rispetto per il volo, della macchina ed i propri limiti, severo ma giusto.. Immancabile il suo sigaro. 25 anni fa allaeroclub mi faceva fare il W&B sul PA28!! Ed ho detto tutto!!
@thesundaydriver782 жыл бұрын
@@gabrieleambrosini5822 un professionista vero! Un manico come se ne incontrano pochi. Un onore essere stato suo allievo.
@thesundaydriver782 жыл бұрын
@@ChevyNova1983 it can be everything. But probably they are just commenting reactions of the aircraft on turbulence or wind.
@giordanociogli7449 Жыл бұрын
Ciao Tommaso ho letto il tuo commento da poco. Il comandante, Nicola marchetti, è mio nonno. Ti ringraziamo molto per il tuo messaggio. Mio nonno è molto felice di sapere che sei diventato comandante.
@FLT1112 жыл бұрын
The MD-11 must've been even tricker than other commercial aircraft to land at Kai Tak!
@6lemans10Ай бұрын
MD-11s require up to 30 knots above average landing speed for a safe touchdown.
@giovanninoto80283 жыл бұрын
Uno dei video più belli!
@replay22it15 жыл бұрын
Video fantastico, complimenti al pilota. I piloti alitalia sono, a mio avviso, i migliori del mondo
@tchirnin11 жыл бұрын
He said " piano ,pianoooo" which is Italian for slow or easy not "ya, ya" which is Spanish and not Italian. We speak Italian in Italy not Spanish.
@MedicalAviator15 жыл бұрын
5 stars, Excellent video!
@NSVadgamasuthar13 жыл бұрын
I AM SURPRISED THAT YOU UPLOADED THIS ONE.
@nitrox41633 жыл бұрын
One of the best videos of youtube
@Abibamed14 жыл бұрын
Che bello il suono dei motori invertiti! E che meraviglia di aereo!!
@lastorianostra81737 жыл бұрын
PIA', PIA', PIAAAANOOOOO!!! FERMO!!!! Cpt, the Boss!
@TheLeonardoRF7 жыл бұрын
Lastoria Nostra What does it mean?
@lastorianostra81737 жыл бұрын
it means somehing like: "Hol... hol... hold iiiiiiiittttttt! Stop"!!!
@lastorianostra81737 жыл бұрын
it means somehing like: "Hol... hol... hold iiiiiitttttt, stop"!!!!
@jeanorwin14 жыл бұрын
I'm not a pilot, but in FSX; when the GPWS counts faster than 1,5 "Altimeter" callouts per second, FS Passenger X most likely brings me a broken tire :D
@CorporateJetpilot13 жыл бұрын
Not easy at all. Was a captain at Delta Airlines Flying the L-1011 Here. It was not fu. Nerve Breaking. But the L-1011 Stayed strong. Good job to all Captains making these landings. Captain in this video at the end looked like he did not like that landing. Have no clue how many times i lost it in the cockpit when i was doing these approaches back in the day. Good Job
@danieleantonelli6997 жыл бұрын
bank angle in atterraggio!!! vorrei vedere l'ala accarezzare l'asfalto;)
@jeremyesque12 жыл бұрын
AMAZING !
@aviador00710 жыл бұрын
PIANO PIANO PIANO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lol, poor first officer.............
@pana7119711 жыл бұрын
bellissimo aereo... ormai uscito di flotta :( .... e bellissimo aeroporto... ormai chiuso da tempo..... p.s. mi pare che i due non andassero molto d'accordo..... non hanno toni cordiali... e l'atterraggio sembra bello tosto...
@BernhardRottweiler14 жыл бұрын
Before you judge the pilots you have to know that the MD-11 is a bit difficult to land. There's a thin line between a good landing and a hard landing...
@justadroid11 жыл бұрын
I noticed that too! Love the PMDG MD-11 also! I'd like to know the details of this one, but it seems to me that the crew were falling behind the aircraft...joining the IGS at 4500' but only completing the pre landing checklist just before 500' seems to me to be cutting it fine, lastly ,disconnecting the Autopilot at 300' and trying to hand fly the last 30 seconds also seems a little rushed...i would have thought you would d/c the AP earlier whilst established and trimmed on the IGS.
@Rickdeckard7887212 жыл бұрын
Secondo me di base non ci doveva essere un granchè di "feeling" tra il coopilota e il comandante e si nota quando quest'ultimo rimprovera il primo ufficiale per non aver risposto correttamente alla chiamata del carrello durante la checklist per il finale facendo anche il "ditino" con la mano. Dopo di che si nota lo scazzo totale del coopilota nel rispondere alle successive chiamate del comandante, credo che una parte della "colpa" sia dovuta anche a ciò.
@OscarDelta7812 жыл бұрын
@pokematt99 As stated already many times, Chek Lap Kok took over the ICAO airfield identification (VHHH) from Kai Tak during the switchover. However due to some technical difficulties they decided to reopen Kai Tak just to handle Cargo flights till things were sorted out. During this short period in order to provide an provisional ident, VHHX was used.
@pepper66910 жыл бұрын
And I thought he was saying "we are about to drop like a piano". lol
@Banom7a2 жыл бұрын
piano came from italian meaning slow
@markcpt.b74875 жыл бұрын
Grande comandante. Bravo. Comandanti Alitalia veramente in gamba.
@kimyongunpyongyang44772 жыл бұрын
Lo stesso atterraggio è stato ripreso in un video , le immagini riprendono l'md11 alitalia che atterra chiaramente in maniera dura toccando pista prima con il carrello di sinistra provocando un forte attrito con le ruote
@SOBEROUS14 жыл бұрын
this was an airport for skilled pilots nice video
@arixtos12 жыл бұрын
@CaptenSmoochie Hello,the captain was pointing his right hand to the right during the landing checklist not to initiate the right turn,he just wanted the first officer to answer to the checklist item"Landing gear",as both(PF and PM)were supposed to call:DOWN FOUR GREEN.(for vital items like the gear, both pilots have to confirm the status)The captain says it in Italian. The first officer missed the response to the checklist probably because he was highly concentrated on the difficult approach.
@davepic14 жыл бұрын
@tolga1977 the are landing from the sea, the controller clears them for ils runway 31. the approach over the buildings " The checkerboard approach " was IGS 13.
@davepic14 жыл бұрын
@dhakaboy1 you're right the checkerboard approach is not easy, but this is a ILS 31 approach from over the bay. winds are 320 at 8 knots so not even much of a cross wind.
@zzddytt14 жыл бұрын
@TheStereoman2 the system did not call "maintain angle". what happened was, the sink rate was a little too high, causing the MD11 to bounce on landing, and during the bounce, the pilot used ailerons to correct, causing the warning "bank angle"
@ImmortalSynn12 жыл бұрын
Pay attention, the video very clearly states that this is a Rwy31 approach. Straight in. 13 had the bank, not 31.
@EternityOpens77613 жыл бұрын
@TheIcecooldk No, Kai Tak used to be VHHH as well, sometimes you find it as VHHX in flight simulation, because VHHH is now used for the new airport.
@themomentchannel3498 Жыл бұрын
the very fast countdown from 50 and the bank angle warning at the end makes ryan air pilots jealous
@thefsxflyer14 жыл бұрын
@Quarker99 Yes, it is now know as VHHX but back in the day when it was in exsistance it was VHHH but the new airport took over that code and it was changed to VHHX
@OscarDelta7815 жыл бұрын
As explained in my previous post, the VHHX code doesn't exist in real life and is mostly used by simmers. The 6th of July 1998, Kai Tak was closed and the ICAO (VHHH) and IATA (HKG) airport codes were transferred to the replacement airport (Chek Lap Kok).
@Frabusne9 жыл бұрын
un classico, come il Re Leone
@OscarDelta7815 жыл бұрын
L'avvicinamento rwy31 avveniva all'interno di un "canale" circondato da ostacoli: colline/montagne/grattacieli. Il vento impattando contro di essi generava moti turbolenti (turbolenza meccanica) che rendevano difficoltoso l'avvicinamento. L'avviso Bank Angle (Mode6 dell'EGPWS) interviene quando viene superato un angolo di bank di 6° a 0ft RA con variazione lineare fino 40° a 150ft RA. Il sistema è sensibile al roll rate e aggiunge 1.5° di bank per ogni °/s (max correzione 6°).
@louisekaille14 жыл бұрын
@Quarker99 Before being closed, Kai Tak Airport's code was VHHH
@Pinkplane5 ай бұрын
Wow that looks hard! May I feature this landing an upcoming video? I'll be sure to provide a link for viewers to return to your video. Cheers!
@ZsuzsannaFriedrich2 ай бұрын
❤U love Hong kong
@billo8214 жыл бұрын
@JMsoo Esatto! per atterrare ad HKG si doveva fare una virata in manuale di 47 gradi verso destra ad un'altezza di circa 200 metri da un qurtiere ad alta densità abitativa. Come riferimeto i piloti avevano il checkboard, un pannello grandissimo a scacchi rossi/bianchi, posto di fronte al corridoio di atterraggio e che dava il via alla virata.
@OscarDelta7815 жыл бұрын
All the Location Indicators available for Hong Kong, as per ICAO's Doc7910, are: VHHH = Hong Kong Intl, VHHK = Hong Kong FIR, VHSK = Sek Kong, VHST = Shun Tak Heliport.
@747forever14 жыл бұрын
i bet this is the hard alitalia landing from cockpit view :D
@LaDeaAfrodite10 жыл бұрын
mmhhh.. incoraggiante... piano ahoooooooooo !!!
@OscarDelta7812 жыл бұрын
@TakumiFujiwara80 This video has been taken during an ILS for rwy31. The one you are pointing out is an IGS13.
@dubravko2314 жыл бұрын
Captain is saying something like "easy easy" (ital. "piano piano") at the touch down. The landing was done by First Officer (copilot) and was a hard landing. Most likely they had some shear wind seconds before touchdown.
@Bond-fx7si3 жыл бұрын
Coming into RWY31, looked like they had some gusts on short final followed by bounce landing. Nice video
@ebtourbillon2 жыл бұрын
rwy13
@Bond-fx7si2 жыл бұрын
@@ebtourbillon negative, it’s RWY31 they’re coming into. You can tell they’re doing a straight in approach using ILS and disconnect Auto pilot at 300ft. Rwy13 is IGS with auto pilot disconnect much earlier.
@Banom7a Жыл бұрын
@@Bond-fx7si also you can see the mountain when they land, if its 13 you only see the sea
@mirceaneacsu200414 жыл бұрын
Another explanation is that the airplane was making a crosswind landing and when about 20 ft of the rwy he stepped on the rudder pedals to align the airplane with the rwy but he obviously didnt make opposite eleron movement and the airplane banked too much.
@Videospotter13 жыл бұрын
WOW, that was a hard aproach
@sobelou11 жыл бұрын
How many hours do you have as a pilot on Douglas trijets?
@MrMalibumirage11 жыл бұрын
immagino ahah, cose dell'altro mondo ! :-))
@parapunziperopero14 жыл бұрын
Brava. Ottimo approccio alla tua fobia. ;-)
@TheLeonardoRF8 жыл бұрын
bank angle :O on a landing
@intertwinedswastikainmatin65486 жыл бұрын
Why exactly did the capt yell towards the end....?
@GigiPastore6 жыл бұрын
He yells "Slowly!! Slowly!!"
@hotelhotel11114 жыл бұрын
at 3.44 Captain is shouting SLOW SLOW (piano piano) For me this was a rather hard landing!
@stevekach13 жыл бұрын
sounds to me that they had some downdraft that pushed the plane down just before landing and that caused the landing to be hard, bouncing the plane back into the air and correcting this caused the wings to tilt one way causing the bank angel alarm. Those planes bounce on hard landing all the time. You can see this by looking at other MD11 landings on KZfaq.
@dkt3wings14 жыл бұрын
I wonder if this video in the cockpit is the same plane that landed, in airbus94's video because he touched down pretty hard and seemed like they were in a violent crosswind.
@pacman59912 жыл бұрын
Was this a crosswind landing or why did the computer indicate bank angle? And this was also an ILS approach right?
@jack93squaglia4c14 жыл бұрын
@Giovani22 anche a me ti devo dire..cmq è un casino questo avvicinamento.. il PF era il copilota?
@mikly48414 жыл бұрын
Grande comandante...pianooo :D
@ImmortalSynn12 жыл бұрын
It's an SAR (Special Administrative Region) of Greater China. The "China" that most people reflexively refer to is the PRC (People's Republic of China). Then there's the ROC (Republic of China) which is usually referred to as "Taiwan" in the West, and "Chinese Taipei" in international collaborations. And lastly, there's Hong Kong, and Macau, both are SARs. All four combined (PRC + ROC + HK SAR + Macau SAR) = "Greater China"
@miquelbayo459610 жыл бұрын
pianissssimo, that's about flying!
@9ACHLA14 жыл бұрын
ke figata troppo bello questo video, soprattutto quando il capitano dice piano, si stava per incazzare xd
@curtiiis8012 жыл бұрын
I think it was simply a faulty warning. The second touch down is the nose gear.
@zaphr8913 жыл бұрын
@thefsxflyer No, you said: "Yes, it is now know as VHHX but back in the day when it was in exsistance it was VHHH..."
@jonathanaus201013 жыл бұрын
this is runway 31 so its the other end of the runway not the one that all the videos have
@b747power15 жыл бұрын
KAI TAK- the most dangerous airport. very dangerous landing !
@MrKissu214 жыл бұрын
wow so cooooool
@shinkreytpuylap Жыл бұрын
that must have been quite a bounce considering they didnt hit the wing during the bank angle alert
@yongsoo2713 жыл бұрын
They're turning Kai Tak into a shopping Mall.
@VendettaSaintPeters13 жыл бұрын
What is the captain says at the end? the alarm says something too..
@mrbgoofball1014 жыл бұрын
it was saying bank angle because it was on the ground and had a slight bank
@parapunziperopero14 жыл бұрын
Ohibo'!!! Due festival metal in Germania nello stesso mese? E dove lo fanno il Summer Breeze?
@bradtaylor3215 жыл бұрын
Whew...that bird was coming down quick
@johnnycyyu14 жыл бұрын
@Quarker99 Kai Tak is now not used anymore. So in real life it has no code. It is now a construction site. "VHHX" only exists in MSFS and x-plane etc..
@bonnyshillingford12 жыл бұрын
wow.......that was close....bank angle on touch down
@Triple777ER13 жыл бұрын
I'm the best armchair aviation expert on youtube and I can conclude due to my detail investigation that this airplane is an MD-11.
@TRPGpilot4 жыл бұрын
D'accord
@CaptenSmoochie12 жыл бұрын
Thank you for clarifying my good man.It is easy to misinterpret as it was in vody language(one finger of raise could be interpreted as an insult in another culture) hence the unequivoval importance to be vocal and precise in cockpit intercommunication.There are many Captains who like to constantly prompt to feel in charge even though the FO is doing a reasonable job.This I though t was one such instance and old school Captains(as the one that features here) are usually susceptible to that.Thanx
@MrMalibumirage11 жыл бұрын
no,le sue iniziali sono G.L.F. all'epoca (1992/93) volavo all'aeroclub a l'Aquila e lui aveva circa 55 anni, aveva volato sui DC 10 fino alla metà degli anni 80. era uno degli istruttori nell'aeroclub
@musico8198614 жыл бұрын
True! WTF?! Did they get a sudden gush of crosswinds?
@caonoak14 жыл бұрын
what does he mean by the bank angel? was it the plane saying that or computers in it?
@Danthepilotman1912 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see what that looked like from outside
@IGMD802 жыл бұрын
sort of kzfaq.info/get/bejne/odmhdZV-1bfZaaM.html
@tchirn11 жыл бұрын
He said piano (pee ah noh), which in Italian means easy or slow.
@McDonnellDouglas11Ай бұрын
So that's the autopilot disconnect sound great sound and a gpws callout
@christianfabris49443 жыл бұрын
Che legnata hanno tirato in atterraggio? 50-40-30-20 in 2 secondi
@A319CROATIA14 жыл бұрын
with more than 15 degree of flaps it's limited to 15-18 degrees of angle in MD11.
@nersyr7915 жыл бұрын
Ciao, mi chiedevo come mai è stato gridato quel "PIANO!!!"? Per via di una discesa troppo rapida o per un eccessivo movimento beccheggio?? Bel video, complimenti!!!
@ryanair73740014 жыл бұрын
@chamilitary999 no no you got it totaly worng VHHX closed in 1998 and then VHHH was opened VHHH has 2 runways with 4 CATIII approaches. VHHX had 1 runway with 2 CATIII approaches. But on runway 13 on final the autopilot had to be disengaged and manually touched down.
@DoctorDARKSIDE11 жыл бұрын
Yeap, it's the same plane landing just from a different camera! Pretty scary!
@bobgraton45613 жыл бұрын
@Ahuntsicspotter They were in the time of old Kai Tak airport back un the 90's when this video was taken!
@davidzill14 жыл бұрын
It is much easier to set up for a crosswind on 31, and the approach is much less dangerous for the aircraft and people on the ground.
@yuujiizumo14 жыл бұрын
@Quarker99 Should be VHHH at that time. And this ICAO code was transferred to the new airport we are using now in Chap Lap Kok after 1998/JUL/06
@larrybueno13 жыл бұрын
@gaspeli YEAHH INCREDIBLE,IT WAS A VERY HARD LANDING
@yogaeka945810 жыл бұрын
very rare video btw
@germano77rm14 жыл бұрын
Che spettacolo
@flyaviation14 жыл бұрын
when was only KAI TAK, it was VHHH, when chek lap kok was inaugurated, then kai tak become VHHX ;)
@powersurge00112 жыл бұрын
@keffoo321 he was almost on the ground when that warning went off, must of been so close to a wing strike
@cookiemonster68613 жыл бұрын
They're turning Kai Tak into a Ferry Terminal
@capacityplus13 жыл бұрын
It might have been wind sheer or a sudden drop in wind speed near the ground. it certainly looked bumpy enough, though I am not qualified to judge.
@OscarDelta7812 жыл бұрын
@CaptenSmoochie Ok, but the approach has been performed on rwy31 and NOT on the IGS rwy13. It would be interesting if someone could catch all the clues that identify the approach as an ILS rwy31. There are plenty.....
@cjracer100014 жыл бұрын
@Quarker99 You see, that's trying to use stuff that you learned in flight simulator in the real world. It was VHHH until it closed. Flight sim now calls it VHHX because it's closed. VHHH is now designated to Chek Lap Kok.
@OscarDelta7815 жыл бұрын
Per via dell'angolo di bank infatti si sente anche il messaggio BANK ANGLE. Questo perchè come puoi notare l'aeromobile tocca prima con il carrello principale di sinistra (3:45) e poi quello di destra (3:47) per via del vento.
@GautierBeats12 жыл бұрын
LOL the pilot at touchdown yelled: "piano, PIANOOOOOOO" which means "SLOWLY, SLOWLYYYY"