This is such a mice workaround!

Genius! More people need to know about this!

Fascinating

Wait, that’s a thing you could do? Huh..

Ooh where at? Id donate all the skin they wanted. Now to lose my weight first i guarantee I'll have loose skin after n i worry about it

Insurance is also *so dumb* bc a lifetime of antibiotic creams and maintaining infection vectors is way more expensive & risky than a single surgery.

Tbf I can understand cause then everyone would claim self harm before cosmetic surgery but if it can be proven by her dr that she had access weight was successful and had a psychological evaluation to prove that this was causing her mental and emotional issues than cover it

@@Ouchiness That's exactly why these type of procedures are typically covered in these cases. Insurance companies have a lot of formulas to calculate the long term costs of conditions. Her medical records would easily indicate that the surgery will save them money in the long run. They should have done one on a woman with debilitating back pain that needs a breast reduction. That is an absolute nightmare to get covered.

@@saje239 agree.

So many procedures are not covered because they are considered cosmetic

Same 😬 like this is my problem right now.

This guy isn’t a social worker? He’s a psychiatrist?

He’s not a social worker he is a psychiatrist …but yes when you lose a substantial amount of weight you are left with almost more problems than when you were obese…excess skin that does nothing but cause infections and make you look like crap….

Gaining it like a glutton. It’s not sad it’s pathetic.

@@b2kzangelalwayz get help

The sad problem with that is insurance fraud, a serious felony in which they could lose their job and license and face fines or jail time. Overall a lose lose situation, our healthcare system is extremely broken

@@brandonmcglocklin9040 It is not insurance fraud, it is gaming the system. A sad state of affair in the medical field in the USA that is reined over by the insurance companies.

@@Gib01 it can be insurance fraud if you directly change something in order for insurance to cover it. Works the same as Medicare fraud and such. I could be wrong tho I'm not a lawyer, I just work in heathcare

That is why we have the NHS. She would have had her surgery. The American 'Healthcare'(?) system is appaling Paying a fortune to be told that your life is not worth saving while AHI makes a fortune.

Yeah. I have a NG tube. I’m begging to get it changed to a G tubes I miss my face. I wanna be able to do skincare and makeup and not have to worry

It's very much dependent on the particular insurance. Some of them won't cover basically anything that falls under the umbrella of plastic surgery. Some will, but you have to wade through their moat, wrestling alligators, and then have a wizard's duel with numerous adjustors. I was fortunate that my breast reduction was covered - I only needed to pay my remaining deductible - but there are plenty of women who can't get it done because of their insurance's rules.

@@katherineheasley6196there are also studies that suggest insurance companies are biased against Black, Indigenous, and People of Color, especially women.

@@1bendykat because of course they are. There's no corporation so evil that they can't add a little dollop of bigotry and make themselves even worse.

Absolutely. I had the gastric sleeve. However, my surgical team gave me so much information about the excessive skin and how they would work extremely hard to manipulate my insurance company to pay for the excessive skin surgery. But the insurance company sucks because they deem the surgery as cosmetic. I've already opened a savings account and have been saving for quite sometime.

Cancer is covered by insurance

No. Medical professionals do not have a duty to lie and manipulate anything. They have a duty to patient care. THE MEDICAL & LEGAL SYSTEMS have a duty to create safe environments to practice. This is going above and beyond. Not expected.

@@Ouchiness So you're telling me that they don't have duty to make sure that their patients are treated, got it.

@@ameliasellers6396 they have a duty to make sure patients are treated but if that treatment is outside their legal scope of practice or hospital policy, it’s not their duty to dupe or fix the system. That is a hospital administrator’s duty.

@@ameliasellers6396 your question is nuanced and the ultimate duty is to do no harm, not to provide treatment. Anything beyond that, any positive outcome, any net gain, is excellent. And the hoped and expected for outcome. But not *duty*.

It doesn't matter this is TV not reality. In Reality the insurance still wouldn't approved of skin removal claim. Insurance has lots of "doctors" that basically force you to go step by step from least to most expensive treatment.

Wow, I’m happy that you were able to accept this, goodluck to anything else you may encounter

Awesome job you did great. I was 242 one town now I’m 185

It’s true. I have a disability-if I don’t check the right things off I can’t get my wheelchair

@@cauzie8281 yup I had a breathing medication, an inhaler that if not written a certain way for the insurance company could cost me $400 for a single 2 week period and after ending up in the hospital as there is nothing comparable to this medication aka nothing does the same thing. I was literally suffocating. The insurance agreed to cut a deal. I guess it was cheaper for them to pay for the med in the long run than to pay for possible repeated hospital stays OR they had a heart and knew I was suffering without my meds- I literally remember suffocating no air in or out, trying to gasp and panicking and the nurses and my mom looking at me with confusion not knowing what was wrong. Terrifying and angering as I thought it was fairly obvious idk. 🤷🏻‍♀️( doubt it was out of concern though, insurance is always out for the bottom line, but idk I could be wrong, some people actually care- my mom had a chance at a high paying job but it was basically a job giving bad news to people, I forget whether it was to fire people or to reject services but she refused, she couldn’t do it, so I KNOW there are people in even the most cutthroat parts of the medical Industry who truly care) When I got home from that hospital stay I changed my trach turns out I had a huge plug blocking my airway. I can’t tell you how scary it is to suffocate and be fully conscious of what’s happening. That’s why I tell my mom who is my direct power of attorney, I want to be out of it when the time comes( unfortunately anyone with a chronic illness has to think long term on occasion- you have to review what you want to happen in case of the inevitable and decide if what you have written is still what you want. First time I was asked was pretty much as soon as I turned 18, iyiyi. Everyone should do this though while they are still able to make the decision themselves, everyone. Okay rant over, sorry.

@@cauzie8281 not even just check the right things but it has to fancily worded. So it’s not exactly lying it’s just finessing the truth. I use a wheelchair for long distance but in my state where I am now it’s not covered by insurance so I have to buy it outright, the only way it’s covered is if you need it 24/7 I believe and have like no ability to be mobile at all not even in home. Which stinks as those things are EXPENSIVE.

I’m so sorry to hear about your concerns. The truth is that my mother was in a very similar situation a few years ago - she was always heavy-set growing up despite having the same diet and habits as her extended family who did not have weight problems. Then a few years ago she developed a necrosis in her intestines and had to have surgery - but after the necrotic tissue was removed and she adapted to her new dietary requirements, she lost weight very quickly, and had a lot of issues with loose skin. She was able to get the removal surgery, but even then it was a difficult few weeks, what with the pain and the regular drainage… but she was much happier when it was all said and done. I hope that if you do end up getting the treatment for your condition and lose the weight that your insurance doesn’t abandon you halfway.

Amanda, yours is a valid concern. In my later 30s, I lost 100 lbs - on my own, no surgery - and I was hoping that I wouldn't wind up with much loose skin since I didn't rush it and went at the rate of 1-1.5 lbs/week. Unfortunately, it didn't work as well as I'd hoped; I still wound up with some loose skin on my upper arms, stomach, and thighs. It was a bigger deal to me than to anyone else, but body dysmorphia is an awful funhouse mirror; I loved how I looked fully dressed, but would never wear shorts or even a one-piece swimsuit. Skin elasticity depends on a number of factors which include age, your skin condition, and your own genetic makeup, but it's impossible to predict how much or little extra skin you could be left with. I hope you don't let that stop you, though; ultimately, being at a healthier body weight is important for your overall health. I hope there is a way to have extra skin taken care of if you need it. (You really might not need it, you know; you are very young, and the odds of your skin tightening up on its own are pretty good.) Good luck! ❤

@@marinam.2293 That's great congratulations! What worked for you?

@@sweetdkinkycurls Thank you! Mine is an interesting story (even if only to me, lol): I had a heart attack at the age of 37. I was indeed overweight, but never smoked or drank, and had absolutely no weight related health concerns. (Low blood pressure and normal cholesterol) My doctor, hospital cardiologist, and several specialists I'd been sent to see after were completely stumped. There was no follow-up treatment, and the only suggestion I'd heard was, "Well, continue to take care of yourself". (Very helpful, isn't it?) Nevertheless, since no one could definitively tell me that my weight didn't cause the heart attack, I came home from the hospital afraid to eat. I'd drink a glass of water and wonder if that was the end. As a single mother of three, two of them still at home, I REALLY wanted to make sure I was going to be there for them! Anyway... before I even realized it, I was 15 lbs down. And then another 10. By the time I "graduated" to salads, it felt like an indulgence! After that, I learned about portion control, as well as the little tricks like using small plates, and the weight just kept coming off. It finally came to 135 lbs, my normal and comfortable weight, and leveled off. I had no trouble maintaining it until peri-menopause, but then I lost it again after. That's about it. Oh, and six months after I had the heart attack, class action lawsuits started appearing en masse against the manufacturer of my previous birth control pill, Yasmin. Apparently, they were aware that it could cause heart attacks in young, non-smoking women - but chose to keep the information to themselves. Profits were more important to them.

So you'd rather be unhealthy? Got it

Bullcrap. It's not the fault of the health and economic system. If anything, it's the fault of the insurance system, which is NOT the health system. Health care and health insurance are two completely different things!!! And capitalism also has nothing to do with this.

@@crucisnh idk if you know this but the reason health insurance is so bad is because the minumum is really low, that is a part of the health and actually the insurance part is part of the economic system sooooo (and btw i did not even say capitalism blind molerat)

@@crucisnh Healthcare and Health insurance are the same thing at this point. Health workers spend 30% of their time with paper work for insurance companies. Also yes this the Healthcare system in the US is just as bad as the insurance companies. Every state was forced to passed laws on how many patients a nurse can watch at a time. This is cause hospital were trying to have 1 nurse watch 20 patients.

The American health system would work fine if insurance companies were non existant tbh cause then competition would drive health costs down and quality up. Just look at the history of eye surgery to improve vision.

Some cosmetic surgeries are necessary. Cosmetic refers to anything visually reconstructive.

Do you think circumcision is cosmetic

MRKA!

Im not saying this to be mean or anything, just had an idea in my head: is there a way that someone like you or me (lost 100 too) can go to europe or another country that can do the surgery? I've heard of people doing this and tbh I'm desperate. Insurance doesnt cover me either.

@@sierralovat5498 you could but you’d better know what you are doing. Surgeries in other countries can be extremely dangerous. Many people have died or been paralyzed etc. from botched surgeries. The health laws are so different over seas. I would want a reputable doctor here recommended someone first.

((HUGS))

Depression makes you think these things constantly, and sometimes it's so loud it's all you can think about. When my Depression was at it's worst I had to wait around in parking lots for hours sometimes because the thought to drive into oncoming traffic was so loud I was afraid I would actually follow through and do it. Intrusive thoughts every once and a while is normal, but having them all the time isn't. Thinking about suicide with no intention to follow through at least a few times in your life is normal, thinking about suicide and genuinely considering doing it is not normal and you should seek help and support. The mindset that "everyone goes through these things" is extremely damaging, I was a victim of that mindset for many years. (I do not reccomend attempting to rawdog life with no professional support if you are struggling the way that I was)

@@procrastinatorproductions3378 you expressed exactly what I was trying to. Everyone has intrusive thoughts but the ongoing depression that paralyzes and interrupts your life is different. Where you can’t get those suicidal thoughts to go away, definitely seek help. I just meant that everyone has intrusive thoughts.

Just want to give you Huggies I'm sorry

Why didn't you go out for a walk?

@@boundedscythe7726 when c19 first hit the UK I had a 1 year old. The lock down in the UK we was longer allowed to go out for 1 hour a day in that time I had to get food for us, and I was scared of getting IT I am the only parent so what was going to happen to my baby

How big you are can effect quality of life. Lots of health issues can occur with obesity, both mental and physical. You may be fine but many others aren't.

That is indeed Dr. Jones, yes.

no one should be positive about hitting 300 pounds being so obese when they lose the weight they have a mountain of extra skin.

i dont think you understand what body positivity means@@benjaminkell3726

It depends really. Skin elasticity changes as you age, so an adult could lose 100lbs and have loose skin everywhere, while a teenager could do the same and be unscathed. Other things matter too, like how much you lost vs how much you weigh, (going from 400 to 300 is very different than going from 200 to 100), and how fast you lose it. So in general, the less you weigh, the younger you are, the less you lose and how slowly you lose it, means less loose skin. If you are older, weight more, lose more and a lot faster, you would have more loose skin. But of course all of this is general, a lot of reactions are based in genetics and medications and specifics.

Wtf ?????