You know Chris, the first time I saw the SnS and he did the steak with the spin on the grate and the "cold" grate system and said it was the "best" way to make a steak I thought it was as you stated, "a gimmic". Because if it was true why weren't the best steakhouse houses in the country using it, like Peter Lugar's in New York? I mean if you're going to pay $100 dollars or more for a steak you want it cooked the best way possible. And they do there, but they don't spin it around on a grate. No offense to anybody and I'm not trying to make anybody mad here. But I'm not going to buy a piece of equipment that cost almost as much as the grill does if it doesn't make the steak taste any better. And thanks to people like you who have gone out of their way to do comparisons like these. You've proven to the people that you don't have to spend a ton of money to get the same results that the Slow and Sear does. People like you approval and you can spend less money on equipment in more money on Quality Meat and enjoying the results with your family and friends. So Thank you Chris for all the great videos that help show us how we can save money on equipment. I for one appreciate it.

That was a fabulous video. The Weber Kettle has been around for a while and people have cooked great Q on it, but now we need to make improvements. You are showing how those improvements don't have to be all that expensive.

Thank you for this. I know it takes a lot of time to do these test, not counting your editing, plus you have wardrobe and maybe beard grooming to look your best.

Nice to see that manual fire management kept right up and x4 cheaper. There's many times I almost bought a guru device but figured if I went that route then I might as well save up for a set it an forget it cooker and that's prob not going to happen. Awesome video and Thanks for sharing.

Great comparison. Yep I think I am more of a shoe string budget guy. I mean for a quarter of the price you end up with basically the same results. Thanks for sharing this.

I bought the SNS kettle grill a few months ago. Even though I purchased a temperature regulator about 5 years ago, I haven't used it on the SNS. I'll just dial it in, and if I missed the mark, make whatever adjustments are needed. For the most part, it holds very steady for hours without me having to do anything. I didn't even know the TTT existed until a couple of weeks ago. Very interesting and helpful product. Looks like a really good budget alternative that should give really comparable results. Thanks for the video!

Tks for making this one Meat. My Webber kettle is my latest BBQ got it for 30$ it's got a dent but the seal is good . I was wanting to figure out a set up for the long cooks and the ttt.With the stone is perfect . This vid was made for me man right on a perfect smoker grill for under 100$ total .your a Guru way to share your skills bro

Akorn user here, and I got to put a TTT to the test for an 8hr brisket cook over the weekend. I watched your video with a slew of others before making my purchase, and I have to say, my grill held temp like a pellet smoker pretty much the whole cook. I made 2 adjustments. One at the start when dialing it in, and once toward the end when I wanted to bring my temp up a bit. Other than that, it was rock solid at 270. TTT is hands down the best 30 some bucks you can spend for your grill. Good videos man, I know I use a kamado, but my dad has a Kettle and I like to learn what I can for these grills to make the best food possible. Thanks

Interesting stuff as always. Your channel definitely helps me decide where I'm going with my grilling hardware.

Once again 👍🏻👍🏻 I love these kind of videos. Honest down to earth common sense test with none of the marketing self interest nonsense. Once again you have proven you don’t need to spend a ton of your hard earned cash to make great BBQ. Thanks Bro, have you ever thought about comparing the BBQ Dragon grill stone to the Aura Outdoor Products Kettle Zone Cooking System? Interested in your thoughts on the two.

Watched a couple of your vids bro; I like the way you operate. By the I’m a new sub.

What a great comparison idea, I can't wait to see the results!

• Watching had to pause at 2:10 mark! Man that is great news to hear that the Real Joey B will start to create videos! Awesome news! Now back to the regularly scheduled program.

So with the TTT, when you were fully rolling, you had the bottom vents completely closed? I have a grill stone and TTT. My big issues with the SnS (besides the price) is the fact that you lose half of your grate space with it, so you become limited with size. I need to get my stone and TTT set up.

Awesome comparison! The Tip Top Temp is under rated, I thinks it’s because people don’t understand how effective and efficient it is without plugging it in or without any computer program. Lol, chilly in Florida!

Hey Meat! Appreciate all your work with this comparison. I guess both set ups will get the job done. It's up to the user. What I'de like to see is the Tip Top vs. a stoker using the grill stone and same amount of briquettes on both. Is it intake or exhaust.....that's the question? 👍

Great video man. Happy Thanksgiving

Both ways seemed to get the job done for the most part. I'd go with the cheaper option given the results! I've seen you use that TipTopTemp before. It's simple, effective and comes at a good price. Sounds like a good combo to me!

Anyone know how to attach a tiptoptemp to a char griller grand champ with a 5 inch exhaust stack?

What do you thin n of using a komado joe big joe pizza stone with bit cut off Vs your stone there:)

Do you think it will work on a WSM

Great video. TipTopTemp for me.

I like your test. I purchased tip top from watching your videos. I had one distintive observation when using mine. I w used fire ring, naked basked from woodshed bbq,and aura outdoor kettle syatem. It is similar to kamato joe system 2 ceramic halves with grate system. I did minion method lighting coals in center of ring. Using tip top the coals burned from lit coals to tip top. It was just like you cut pizza in half. From center to tip top other half not touched. This was observation After about 4 hr cook. So my suggestion is to light coals farthest from tip top. Im still experimenting with and without tip too, I feel like kettle is fairly simple for heat control , it seems like the amount of coals you seed you coals with big help. You test are great. I am curios what is life of tip top If you take care of it Im suprised spring doesnt rust up.

Chris would the tip top temp and the grill stone work on my expert superior 22" kettle

Now I know what to ask for Christmas this year. Tip Top Temp

Will the tip top temp work on the exhaust of an offset smoker?? Maybe u could try that out

I really wanted to get on of these ever since I seen you first try one some time back, I have the 26 inch Weber kettle. Will this fit on top, thanks for all your videos and time I really enjoy them.

Great comparison brother! I’m sure that took some work and time!

Great comparison Chris. I have one huge criticism though. Did u use the words “ chilly “ and 63 degrees in reference to each other? If so - 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 come visit me in minny in January🥶

Love the video. Keep up the good work. One question. How do you like the ink bird and their app? Do you find the temperature readings accurate? I’m thinking of upgrading to one and I see you using it a lot. Would love to know what you think. Thank you.

One of the things I really like about the slow n sear with the stainless drip pan is that the pan catches all the grease which keeps the grill mess to a minimum. Also, I noticed on Black Friday that SNS now has the original version of the slow n sear for $69 or so. So, that, along with a stainless drip pan is not that expensive. I find that I can keep my temps pretty stable without using a controller. I'm not sure I'd want to deal with the mess that a couple of shoulder roasts would make on the stone and the bowl of the grill. I've heard some say that the grease sizzling on the stone makes an unwanted flavor, but that could just be opinion. Would like to see your test also with the tiptoptemp and slow n sear used together. I may just order a TTT. Thanks for a fun and informative video!

The basic premise of these tests always seem to be that if you can get the same results with less money that the expensive product is a rip off. The truth is that if you are a good enough operator of your grill and willing to manage it closely, you can achieve similar results with the bare bones kettle and no extra equipment at all. The gadgets buy you convenience, consistency, and peace of mind that you can walk away from the fire for extended periods of time and the controller will make the adjustments for you. How much those things are worth in dollars and cents is a choice for every individual. There was a time in my life where sitting next to a cheap offset stick burner and fiddling with the fire for a 17 hour brisket cook was great fun. Time and circumstances have changed my outlook these days and being able to start a cook, monitor it from anywhere and make almost no manual intervention is well worth a few hundred dollars.

What about the snake method without a tip top temp and grill stone? Should also last a decent enough amount of time I reckon

Doesn’t the grill stone help hold temperature? I would think the thermo mass of it is helping you keep temp.

This was interesting new friend Ruthie here

Is there something like the tip toptemp for okj bronco?

Great videos, keep up the good work. Not gonna lie, I kind of want the SnS but can’t justify the price. I’d like to say this, you keep saying we can use a whole bag with the grill stone. I’d love to see you use a whole bag with the grill stone and cook some good food just for the hell of it!

Next test: swap the controllers? The bulk of the price was in the flame boss.

Use the ambient probe to monitor the other grill. Both graph lines on one screen makes comparing easier and it also eliminates any discrepancies in the two apps readings. Just fyi. Great job though.

I like that tip top temp. the way i see it is the slow n sear is the ultimate charcoal basket its probably going to out last you it has integrated water catcher it can really be used on any grill/ smoker is it worth the price that's up to you to decide.

I bought an 18 inch WSM few weeks ago for $90. Now you have me wondering if I should have spent that cash on a grill stone and Tip Top Temp.

Tip top ten

I have a TTT it is incredible.

help me brother got a grill stone like it noy using it to day trying to use tip top temp outside temp 70 humed as hel burning kingsford in 1 webber basket as full as i could get it started up fine took grill up 20 200 at cooking level put tip temp on at 4 setting closed bottom vents white i think i got it its commin up to 225slow ttp set at 5 lets see what happens fill you in later just incase some one has proplem like this your the best at passing on TRUE info thanks

You can pretty much use a slow n sear or grill stone by itself and get similar results. Adding the extra controllers is only a deflection.

Sorry to be so late on this comment/question... I wonder what the best way is to install this on a Master-Touch 22". Does the little handle get in the way? Should I leave it, cut it off, or bend it back? Love your vids... Liked and subscribed!!

Always enjoy these comparison videos, I know you put a lot of work into them. Personally, I'd hand the win to the SNS because it clearly held temp for much longer with no tinkering required. However, both setups are legit and reliable. Can you do a cook with the SNS and Tip Top together on one grill?? 😁

Hey man want to know how the flameboss is holding up? Thinking of getting it for my 26er

I put my charcoal on one side of my PK 360 grill...put a weber cube on one end of the charcoal....3 minutes later lower the lid open the vent under charcoal 3/4 and the vent above the food 3/4 to full open.....temp settles in to 250 for 5 hours while my ribs smoke.....I feel really bad I don't have the need to $upport the bbq toy market.

Great video!!! To bad bbq dragon doesn't have grill stone for the 26 kettle.

I'm definitely on a shoe string budget!!!

So this is a non electrical version of bbq guru? since our temp at the moment is around 1°c then two hours later 15° would this be able to adjust on its own

I think I’ve mentioned it to you before, but I’m pretty sure by taking a pizza stone and cutting it with a tile saw you can make a good alternative to the grill stone from bbq dragon

Congratulations on 1 YEAR!

Is there a big difference with blocking edge of stone vs not?

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Even cheaper is a 20” pizza pan and some 3.5” by half inch bolts up through the charcoal grate along with the tip top temp. Your not gonna drop a lightweight aluminum pizza pan, and break it, if you wanted to pull it out to sear.

What thermometer system are you using?

Dollar for dollar, I’d sat Tip Top Temp for the win.

Ok, new idea I’d love to see...vortex flipped upside down under the grill stone and regulated by the TTT. I figured the vortex upside down would’ve solved your coal temp issue ( on the start) and make a great cook since when the TTT gets the heat from the greater amount of coals it should respond better sooner. Just a thought and if you don’t give it a go I may, however it’s cold here in Ohio so it will have to wait.

Just going to throw this out there. The BBQ Dragon pizza stone is $39 on Amazon for Black Friday.

Meatcranium do you have a way to message me or contact me I wanted to ask you a couple of questions

Lose all of the gadgets and run a test. None of them are needed. A 2x2x1 snake works just fine in cooler weather. TTT is a gimmick just like the SNS. You of all people know that.

The sns is a rip off.