Bridgette Whitehead duh, Flemith is captain janeway

Captain Janeway could make the Borg flinch and Q piss himself, she is The Russian Mama in Oitnb.... And her voice speaks with an edge honed like a mama bears claws but tender as a mother's love raspy with wisdom etc etc

So many comments about Kate Mulgrew, but not a peep about Claudia Black. :c

@@MBOmnis Right?! Claudia Black has such a sexy mysterious voice. The moment I met Morrigan in DA1 I was like "oh OK here is my waifu" she's got to be the most interesting character here in this game with that voice. Also the guy who played Zaeed Massani as well as the quartermaster I think in DA:Awakening. He has a really badass voice, you hear him from the first time and you know this guy is a badass.

@@albertoj.mollinedo4116 Yeah, Zaeed's voice actor was also great. Too bad he passed away :/

or how many saves he has ....

@@notoriousbig3k "or at least the ungodly amount of saves this person must have"

Mods

Save editors but still

there should be option for quisi to romance her =)

My warden would have teased her with it for sure. Although he would probably be excited with her. It's very cute how excited Morrigan gets about that book XD

I've played this game for hundreds of hours and don't remember the book scene?

@@JD-Media This scene only happens, if Kieran was never born. That means that both the dark ritual wasnt made and you didnt romance Morrigan.

Chasind yeah but if you’re on Xbox one and really don’t wanna go and buy dragon age origin to get the dark ritual or have the feralden champion who is Lilliana’s bf 😂 makes sense finally on why I don’t get it but it should be a god damn dlc for it if you don’t have the other two games to completely complete the actually actions take place in every single actual game through

And with Mythal threatening their son, I'd say this is one fight I want to stay WELL away from when the HoF returns to the known parts of Thedas.

I think it's simpler than that, Flemeth is just a tragic figure. Because she carries the soul of a "god", she's basically more of a long-term/big picture thinker (it doesn't help that the god who's decided to take up residence is a god of justice). But this doesn't mean that she doesn't experience life just as any other mortal does - and the pain you see when Morrigan offers herself to her (as if Flemeth were a genuinely evil person) seems exactly like the pain a mother would feel whenever their son/daughter accused them of being "evil" when in fact they are only trying to look out for them the best way they knew how. Flemeth obviously cares about Morrigan and even Kieran, considering the many options she had for dealing with them - she always used the least confrontational/placating approach each time. This would then explain her parting words - these are the words of hurt parent, not a regretful one. Hurt that Morrigan would think her such a terrible mother despite the fact that Flemeth seems to have actively tried to avoid crossing paths with her. Hurt that (if she mentions these words in the well) Morrigan still thinks ill of her, despite her own flippant reaction to Morrigan's attempt at matricide. Hurt that (if Morrigan drinks from the well) Morrigan chose a path that led her straight back to Flemeth, and now Flemeth has to use Morrigan whether she wanted to or not. Hurt that for all their time together Morrigan still doesn't seem to understand that she does care - her words basically amount to "if you didn't want to do it, then you didn't have to... that's always how it's been". And she probably hates herself for being that way, because although Flemeth and Mythal share similar long-term goals they obviously have very different ideas about short-term concerns. Although she admits that they are now just one being, Flemeth's manner implies that she still sees her and Mythal as distinct somehow (like the situation with DA:O's Wynne and her own spirit). A regretful parent would simply be apologizing or offering excuses.

@@whokilledmydoggie That's deep bruh

I also noticed she felt bad when the elven inquistor asked why she didnt show when they kept praying to her

flemeth was also abusive. she thought she was making morrigan stronger, teaching her to beleive love was a weakness, and such. I'm glad she's regretful. Flemeth probably always loved Morrigan, but that doesn't mean she was a good mom. good on Morrigan for confronting her and generally being a better mother. also thought it was a test to pick at Morrigan's character. does she still hold power above everything? or does she care for her child? it's a way to tell where her loyalties lie--it tells Flemeth where to strike if she needs. it gives her an advantage.

Generational trauma in a nutshell

In Origins, Morrigan tells the Warden that Flemeth taught her harsh lessons but they were necessary for survival and that she was better for it. But out from under her mother's thumb, she realizes this isn't the case. That's why she'll never be the mother to Kieran than Flemeth was to her.

She did even say at the Temple that they might have been just very powerful mages. That was actually right on point but didn't know it yet.

@@stomponshao Even better if Solas comes along, he gets to see someone accidentally put everything together in front of him

Historically, Solas always said the Evanuris are nothing more than a glorified crew. 20 ages in the fade, not a peep.

@@DJinKERRY831 the dread wolf, whatever happened there.....

​@@HeavyRockin1 Whatever happend there? WHATEVER HAPPENED THERE?! I'll tell you what fаскin happend. This piece of 💩 god put 6 arrows in Mythal, without any provocation whatsoever!

Lelouchxzero1 only to be betrayed by the people they helped (if romanced Iron Bull betrays you; even their loved ones) including Fen’Harrel himself and the power that was bestowed upon him.

Iron Bull only betrays you if you choose to sacrifice the Chargers. Doesn't matter if you romance him or not, result remains the same if you sacrifice them. That's why I always choose to save them :P

Damn yall work at Bioware?

Oh don't forget starting a war dealing with espionage from the quanari and the world vs elf demigod solas too. Well the fun never stops.

@@bradykinder1060 or if you dont do his personal quests.

Right? Physically winced at that line; it's a really good one but Damn

+Sambal91 Reminds me of the spirit of justice from Awakening and Da2.

After Tresspasser, there seems to be an old ongoing war between the old gods and the (supposedly) elven gods. One scene in the DLC reminds me a bit of the Protheans in Mass effect, trying to preserve themselves for the new age. They were all in some kind of lyrium coffin.

Well, yes and no. The original Flemeth is long gone. For her to keep going by that name implies that the personality of Flemeth has long since merged with Mythal's. Which raises the question - has it also merged with the many daughters over the years? That would explain the "other names" mentioned, no?

Ember Leo Ember Leo A nice theory... It fits; and makes Morrigan's relations with Flemeth simply that much more tragic.

I wonder if Flemeth took the old god soul so when Solas comes for her, he will take the wrong soul giving her and Mythal the chance to live longer

True :D

I also adore her character Design. She has very noble features with piercing green eyes perfectly fitting a witch. Young Flemeth would be one of the hottest Females of Dragon Age imo.

What about when Morrigan set her boyfriend on Flemeth in the first game, I wanna hear her bring that up lol

@@JD-Media she already did 22:25

@@tommyvercetti3263 Oh wow, thanks that's a letdown.

@@JD-Media yeah...no mention of the warden...shame hope he will be mentioned a lot more in DA4 or even make a cameo but i doubt it...

@@tommyvercetti3263 in DA4 Bioware hinted that The Warden is coming (why keep calling him ferelden hero his the Warden General now ... )

To be fair, that dog is smarter than several of the group members, not just Alistair.

Alistair was jelous and was way younger back then and naive and still believed in the chantry BS now he believes in his sword

Who's to say it's gone?

Yup

@@briarrosegael2015 sadly, almost all team is gone that was working on DAI

@@MrZiva82 DA4 will be made by another team and continues from DAI

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Excuse me DA4 isn’t out yet I’m positive we havnt seen the last of Flemeth her character is to beloved.

CaptainRed1000 play trespasser alot will be revealed

Already have, mate. That has nothing to do with what I said.

why Morrigan cares about preserving history, I doubt the Dalish would beleive the word of a Shem. they're stubborn and prideful. can you imagine if they discovdred what the valasline is? they probably wouldn't beleive it.

Elian Rodriguez dang your right kinda creepy she looked straight at me

@@AG95247 yes she breaks the 4th wall in all 3 games she breaks the 4th wall not always talking to warden hawk or inquisitor

Flemeth's acknowledgement and breaking of the 4th wall makes me question if the player represents something beyond just the character we play.

i think by "the world" she means the veil. it's pretty obvious she supports Solas' plan to take the veil down. hence, the world will pay.

Woahh this is goood

Okay, cool, people keeps liking my comment, but, it doesn't answer the question, i'm actually asking.

My Kieran was special, so more than likely seeing as that is how Flemeth is confronted. She has no reason to go near the veil if she's not taking the soul from the looks of it.

It is an abandoned koncept of Bioware

Why wouldn't she be hurt? As she said herself, Morrigan (and even Kieran) were never in danger in the firstplace, yet Morrigan happily told us since game 1 that poor old swampy Flemmeth was eating children to stay young - the very same Flemmeth who has no problem cutting a deal with the hero of Fereldan to save everyone the trouble of fighting over a mere book that Morrigan wants for power because, if you haven't noticed, that's Morrigans top priority (until she actually had a child, at least). TLDR neither are innocent or victims. There's a lot of sad layers underneath it all that are easy to miss. As much as I like Morrigan as a character, I never liked how Flemmeth was essentially a backstory cameo across three games - and now she's gone for good. They really should have used her more and played on their 'conflict that actually isn't really a conflict' vibe, just ancient secrecy.

RopeDrink u do realize flemeth put a piece of her soul in the mirror when solas kills her. (maybe he even took the old gods soul and nothing more) flemeth is really clever u know that right.

That doesn't mean she'll return - and even if she does, it doesn't mean she'll return in this form. Until/unless she comes back we can only assume she's gone.

RopeDrink jeah but u said she's gone for good. u don't know that. she could come back next game.

Nathalie Magnus she must drink from the well

You can also get that scene if Kieran is a normal human, not a God-Soul human

@Tig Bitties Oof that comment was long time ago, but I believe that kneeling option did actually look different for elves, aka she would not in kneel like humans do etc.

Oh I hope so

+ItoFumika I don't know either, could you explain pls?

+Kreuzkruger89 So in the first Dragon Age game, you can make a series of choices which lead to this beautiful family unit. This is about to get a bit complicated, so bear with me here lol. Loghain is the father of Anora, current queen of Ferelden. you can convince Alistair to marry Anora, thus making him king and Loghain his father-in-law. Later on, you can force Loghain to join the Wardens and convince him to have sex with Morrigan (for actually important reasons, I swear lol). Morrigan, who is the daughter of Flemeth, becomes pregnant and their child is Kieran. Kieran would thus be a half-brother to Anora and a brother-in-law to Alistair. It's probably also important to mention that Alistair hates Loghain and has a serious distrust of Morrigan. Loghain moreover also hates Morrigan as well as Flemeth, and is not aware of the fact that Flemeth and Morrigan are actually related.

Gives her power to Solas at the end

@@alnotbiggaytho7124 not entirly, she stores something in the eluvian before he comes

I had the opposite. Not sure what triggers it.

Having a romance with the warden, maybe? I don't know, it's the only thing that comes to my mind.

Isn't it great to wait 3 years and still not get an answer? 😂

@Tig Bitties Ikr lmao

Well I always assumed that Flemeth pass on Morrigan her love for old magics and powers like she said. And then, probably taught her some dark secret rituals like the one for a baby old god. So, she knew when the Blight will come that Morrigan would'nt resist to try that ritual or even push her to go with the warden (I don't remembe exactly, it's been a long time for me since my last DAO) Then the hero lived despite killing the ArchDemon... not so hard to put 1+1 for Flemeh I guess

I am pretty sure this was the sole purpose of sending Morrigan with the Warden. I thought Morrigan admitted as much in DAO, but can't remember for sure now.

@@polymorphesquirrel Yeah, Morrigan tells the Warden that the Ritual was why Flemeth sent her with them. She is also the one who told Morrigan about the Ritual.

+Thomas Brennan If I had to guess, one is for a Morrigan who was with the Warden and the other covers a Morrigan who is no longer romantically involved or never was in the first place.

probably the difference between "normal" human kieran (morrigan in romance with the warden but no dark ritual used) and old god kieran (dark ritual used).

My memory is kinda fuzzy, but wasn't that ring something Flemeth made to track Morrigan and Morrigan was able to manipulate it for her own use? She may only have one and she have it to the Warden.

​@@juanlaise1059bingo.

Kieran must have an Old God Soul.

Guess you have the book and the temple scenes if there is no Kieran. As well as you have the temple if Kieran is human, and the fade if Kieran is an old god.

I think the inquisitor has to drink from the well

Ioi Leilani its a mod for the skyhold outfit.

Minadori123 geh! pc T_T oh well lol

XD sorry ^^