Melodyne • Distorted vocals

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In this video Rich focuses on how to treat screaming/distorted vocals. First he points out how to identify an issue with Melodyne recognizing the notes. From there, he goes into Note Assignment Mode to discuss fixes. Rich then points out how to correct note selection. Next Rich describes how to ensure that Sibilant Handling is turned on and used correctly. Then he discusses Playback type and how it will help interpret the musical information correctly. He goes on to demonstrate how to use Robust Pitch Detection for problematic notes. Rich then illustrates how to further fine tune the note detection by using note separation when needed. From there, he corrects the notes using the pitch tool, and applies the transition tool and modulation tool to smooth out the changes. Finally, Rich uses the Harmonics control in the Sound Editor to remove low-end noise.
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@michaelkingdeseptionvocali1137 Жыл бұрын

This video is genius level stuff. Rich is an incredible instructor. Whatever he's getting paid, it isn't enough.

@TedTrembinski Жыл бұрын

Rich shows off some of the most powerful Melodyne tips I've ever seen in this video! I _finally_ made the leap from Melodyne 3 (which I had been using for 10 years!) to Melodyne 5 earlier this year and after using it for several months, I'm realizing that vocal engineering and production is more fun than ever!

@notneedingwings Жыл бұрын

This has been immensely helpful, thank you so much.

@jeremiahlyleseditor437 2 жыл бұрын

Your Melodyne tips are great. I'll have to learn this.

@defmu3825 Жыл бұрын

1:05 "ThErE iS nO sAvInG uS AAALLLL....okay..."🤣 Great Tutorial btw

@jethroburns 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot. Most interesting. The 1st box in the sound editor is always down by default in my version of Melodyne.

@StephenAndrichuk 2 жыл бұрын

What a timely video, thanks!

@martynroach182 4 ай бұрын

Great Clip, thank you

@celemony 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@Beatsbasteln 2 жыл бұрын

musically i liked the dry vocals a bit more, because they went down to G# at the end in a really smooth way and the song also progressed to that note the next bar so it made sense, but technically this tutorial was great and surely with a bit more care a melodyned metal vocal can also exceed the quality of a natural one

@carlosedubarreto 2 жыл бұрын

great tips!!!!

@philipdubnick7776 2 жыл бұрын

As impressive as a breakthrough polyphonic tuning was, I sincerely believe the next real ‘just-take-my-money’ innovation will be whichever company comes up with a far more accurate algorithm for detecting intended pitch on distorted/screams/gravel-laden vocals. Working around the inaccuracies of most tuning solutions with these types of vocals is by far the most time consuming aspect of tuning vocals.

@joelgarner667 4 ай бұрын

This is awesome but for whatever reason after changing to robust that section of vocals doesn’t play back

@celemony 4 ай бұрын

That’s not how it should be. Please feel free to contact our support team, if you need help: www.celemony.com/support

@trushreitsam5802 2 жыл бұрын

What DAW are you using? I weirdly don't recognize it. Edit: That's Pro Tools just in black isn't it?

@celemony 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. 🙂

@xaverreitsam4199 2 жыл бұрын

@@celemony Oh well, got excited for a second... But nice Video and Software (Melodyne that is)

@mindfriquemusic2105 2 жыл бұрын

Plz make any other video regarding vocal tuning. tightens tuning

@celemony 2 жыл бұрын

We have a lot of videos about vocal tuning in our channel. Check them out! 🙂

@mindfriquemusic2105 2 жыл бұрын

Yes i watched all videos

@raisingjakestudios1371 Жыл бұрын

This video is an excellent example of a problem I often have with Melodyne. The last note in the phrase still sounds flat even though it has been "pitch corrected" the same as all the other notes. Why is that? Yes, we can manually move that note up a bit but then Melodyne shows it sharp by XX cents - so something's wrong. It seems to have a lot to do with where the note separations are placed and getting them placed right on a busy, "glissy" vocal can be very frustrating. If the separations are not in exactly the right place(s) - or too many or too few - Melodyne can actually make the tuning sound WORSE, IME. Melodyne gets a lot of praise but, IME, It requires a skilled operator with an excellent ear to get a great result. It is not an easy tool to use. Like playing a trombone vs. playing a piano. BTW - why is "robust pitch detection" an option rather than the default? Is there a side effect of using it?

@celemony Жыл бұрын

Which note do you mean that sounds flat?

@raisingjakestudios1371 Жыл бұрын

@@celemony - The sequence of notes starting at 10:08 ("with Melodyne in context"). The last note in that sequence (at 10:11) still sounds flat compared to the preceding notes. You can actually see that much of its pitch curve appears to be below the pitch centerline. It is BETTER than it was originally but it's still flat. I had the opposite happen recently in a Pro Tools ARA project - to a much greater degree - where I "pitch corrected" 3 successive vocal notes to the same pitch. All 3 blobs were on the same pitch line yet the 3rd note in the sequence sounded SHARP by nearly a semitone. I had to slide it down quite a bit to make it sound the same pitch as the preceding notes - at which point Melodyne then indicated it was flat. The "pitch drift" tool seems to really have an affect on this. Flattening out the drift can push the entire blob flat. So there's something going on here that isn't quite right, IMO. I sent multiple examples of this issue to Celemony when Melodyne 5 first came out. I think the original pitch detection algorithm was better. I have tried the "robust pitch detection" option you mentioned here and, IMO, it works better than the standard mode - and not just on distorted or otherwise "pitch challenged" vocals. Is that, perhaps, the original mode?

@bitchassmoththing 2 жыл бұрын

can i do the same with screams? i.e. shaky screams

@celemony 2 жыл бұрын

Please feel free to give it a try with our trial version: www.celemony.com/en/trial

@BuffR100 2 жыл бұрын

how to deal with the artifacts that melodyne creates ?

@celemony 2 жыл бұрын

What kind of artifacts do you have in mind?

@BuffR100 2 жыл бұрын

@@celemony its hard to describe, but sometimes even when you go subtle with melodyne i can still hear the digitalish artifacts on top. i was wondering if recording on higher sample rates could help or not ?

@celemony 2 жыл бұрын

Please feel free to contact our Tech Support and send them some sound examples. They will be happy to help. See here: www.celemony.com/support

@edrambeau1534 9 ай бұрын

I'm using melody ARA and in every song there's always a mistake in the vocal. In other words, melodyne will interpret some line within the song as one note straight across even though the vocal is heard as sung. Why is this happening?

@celemony 8 ай бұрын

Please make sure you’re using a clean and dry recording of your vocals. As soon as you have any room ambience or mic bleeds from other instruments on it, it is no longer strictly monophonic, and that can confuse the detection algorithm. Also, the more percussive the vocal take is, the more it might be analyzed as percussive. Either way, if you find that Melodyne’s algorithm choice is incorrect, you can switch the algorithm to ‘Melodic’ in the corresponding menu, or even define ‘Melodic’ as your default algorithm. Hope this helps.

@edrambeau1534 8 ай бұрын

@@celemony thank you. I will give that all a shot.

@edrambeau1534 8 ай бұрын

i@@celemony oh, forgot to mention. Sometimes when it shows the melody as one single blob across the screen, it automatically fixes itself when I do my first save in logic Pro.

@celemony 8 ай бұрын

If you need assistance, please feel free to contact us here: www.celemony.com/support

@AceHermes Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@jesusislord1634 Жыл бұрын

Sounded better before it was tweaked. (If there is a better) Can't polish a Terd......Or can you?

@pakipoli4895 7 ай бұрын

Hello from Italy. could you make a presentation of how Melodyne could follow a project in Cubase (Chord Track) with a guitar or keyboard track or something else (therefore polyphonic track)? Thank you

@celemony 7 ай бұрын

Hello to Italy! 🇮🇹 🙂 Please feel free to contact our support guys, they will be happy to help. See here: www.celemony.com/support