Don’t treat that man how culture tells you he is, but treat him how God says he is👏🏾🗣️ A WORD! This was sooo good!

This is what my husband said: "I don't think it's as possible for a lot of male preachers to speak to the problems of men, because most male preacher's aren't conditioned to speak to their own problems. So I suspect it's easier for them to cater their messages to women." WORD.

“Men that have been broken want to deal with the type of broken women that don’t challenge their own brokenness but rather caters to their brokenness in a way that makes them feel superior or allows them to avoid or escape what they need to do to step up as a leader.” I’ve encountered this So Much!! That Really spoke to me!!! Thank u for this! So many gems!

I don’t know who my husband is, but please LORD, allow him to have friends like this because he reflects this as well 🙌🏾🥰 Thank you for preparing me in advance in JESUS MIGHTY NAME, Amen

Yall just saved my marriage.. Thank you 3 for giving my husband and I vocabulary and dialogue for our issues with intimacy 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙌🏽

Even when Jackie is breezing past a subject she be walking HEAVY! 😂 I love that.

I am a single woman that felt trapped by genders wars and negative stereotypes to the point I felt like the dating pool was a waste land and there was no point trying. Then I quit social media 😂

"Men need to be both lion and lamb" that was amazing.

As a senior 70+, it's encouraging to see young people like these using their knowledge of the culture to uplift others. A wonderful gift from the Father ~~

Seriously, this is the most healthiest conversation on sex I’ve heard in my entire life.

Y’all just saved my singleness by actually helping me prepare for marriage..❤

"Make enough money to hire a maid, but marry your friend" Preston Perry 🙏🏽🙏🏽

Jackie threw the Bible then sat back like “look at my man” 😂😂

Preston : “RIP” Jackie: “peace is debatable “ Right out the gate y’all starting 😂😂😂 I love it!

This conversation is looooong overdue and did NOT disappoint! While I deeply desire marriage, I am so grateful that I’m single at the moment and trusting God for a man who is healthy, healing, whole, and who has a healthy and godly perspective on men, women, sex, marriage, and relationships. There’s so much brokenness and division in the world, the culture, and the church because of the enemy, and I’m so glad we are trying to be part of the solution and not add to the problem!

21:13 whew you said that! When we joined the church, our Pastor recruited my husband to be on the media team and he’s been consistently going to church for 3 years never missing a Sunday unless we were on vacation or had family in town. He goes more than I do 😂he’ll be on 4 hours of sleep on two wheels at church on time ❤ we’re blessed to have a church where the men have a heavy presence in the church and our very involved. Their men’s ministry is 🔥

Pride is the issue. The women are prideful, the men are prideful and all down to the pastors are prideful. It is rare to see someone who wants to learn, who wants discipleship.

Men are complex, but simple. Beautifully created by God. Ive been guilty of putting men in a box because they're so strong and often times silent in their actions. Whew. Love this podcast.

I watched this video with my sister bc we were both cleaning around the house and realized we were watching the same video in our head phones. We watched the video together on the tv, talked for hours… and got very little done b4 our mom came home. 😅 Such a NEED conversation, so much to take away from it, even for woman.

Divorce is never the way out, My wife and I have been having issues before I sort out help from a spiritual adviser,i wasnt going to let my marriage of 18years crash

I didn't want this convo to end!

This may be unpopular but I’ll share it anyways. The Bible says that whoever wants to be the greatest among us must be a servant. He also says that lording it over people (usually what a lot of men seem to mean when they talk about leadership) is not what is expected from His followers. In my observation, the reason a lot of men aren’t in the church is that men have only been taught one-way submission, both in the culture and in the church. They think “leadership” is connected to “lordship” and have absolutely no context whatsoever about how they also need to submit as men, so when they find themselves in situations that do require their voluntary submission (ex. to the pastor), they don’t have the framework to handle it. It’s the same reason that underlies why women tend to have an easier time with church structure. This is not about how we’re wired, this is pure social conditioning.

I love everything about this. 10/10. I even find joy and watching Jackie adore her husband walking out his gift to a level of excellence

I’m only 21 so I’m glad to be getting this wisdom this young. Almost fell into the KS trap, but this podcast convicted me heavily. People like y’all and Tony Gaskins are extremely anointed in what y’all teach and preach. Thank y’all so much and God bless!

I don’t think y’all know how much I needed this. I’m 18, just started my first relationship, and I’m so lost, because my parents are the prime example of a broken man who married a maid. I have these intimate questions with no example in my life of a Godly relationship and what it entails. Yes it’s important to remain celibacy, everyone knows that, but like you said, the potential of a relationship isn’t just physical or if you find them attractive and look at that, they’re Christian. What does a Godly relationship look like emotionally? In practice? It’s not just praying together, though important. Would you be FRIENDS with this person. So thank you, from the bottom of my heart.

Preston is lowkey becoming a role model for me. Young man to young man, inner city kid to inner city kid. Thank god for you all…but I gotta give my man his flowers…Ezekiel love man! Jackie of course we love you too lol! Can’t wait for the tour.

The Lord led me to this video and I don't even have a man rn but the wisdom yall are imparting is major for men AND women who are preparing for their husband's arrival!!!! Thank you Jesus for these great teachers

I grew up with my father and he was a pastor but he didn’t know how to relate with his kids. He didn’t know his father and he didn’t have a man figure. So in turn I became a man but I didn’t know how to be one. I walked by myself. When I became a father I freaked out and almost ran because I was always told I couldn’t do anything right. But GOD!!!!! I talk to few young men about keeping themselves away from sin and immorality. It is hard to walk alone and be in solitude. We need to help each other.

What a powerful conversation! MARRY YOUR FRIEND IS KEYYYYYY, being with my husband has taught me men are simple, Society has made them appear complex. Ready to feed each other not feast each other---EZEKIEL!!!!!

I really hope many people can listen to this and be renewed because we are all hurting and we need this. This is indeed timely.

Many don't have fathers or father figures and coming into a church do not want to "submit" to another man because that is not something they had to do that at home.

Is it just me, or do y’all love the Perry’s?!!!! This podcast gave me soo much excitement but also insight as a young woman and what we can do and NEED to do. It’s not just serving, it’s the HOW that’ll shake the earth and build the body of Christ❤

The friendship part...MY GOOD GOD!!! SOOOO GOOD!!! This is such a good pod! WOW Thank you all so much for this one!!!🔥🔥🔥

Jackie you hit this on the head. Some men enjoy men more than women. So true

I'M so happy I made productive decisions about my finances that changed my life forever, hoping to retire next year... Investment should always be on any creative man's heart for success in life.

Man, I was watching this episode, and right at the end, about healing the boy in men… I just broke down and cried. Spoken right to me. Wow!

WOOO! Preston was PREACHIN' preachin' today! I reacted like his proud wife, Jackie, the whole episode. LOL! I can tell God has given Preston much wisdom on male-female relationships because he spoke with such clarity, conciseness and quick wit. I'm excited to see what God is going to do through Preston and Ezekiel. Jackie, thanks as usual for asking much-needed questions and offering your insights. SPLENDIFEROUS EPISODE! I've learned how to relate better with men, including my dad, brothers and male co-workers. 49:00 Also, when Ezekiel hit us with the story of Jesus washing the disciples' feet, I had to run to the Ephesians 5:25 when Paul writes, "Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word,..." I never connected that with Jesus literally washing feet with water, but it makes so much sense. Jesus was modeling servant-leadership to husbands. Wow! And Peter initially rejected Jesus' offer, but he learned to receive. That mirrors what some women might do-not respond to leadership, as Jackie pointed out. WOW! This episode really blessed me! Thank you, God!

Deep episode. You guys are often warning/teaching how to find the right spouse (which is awesome) but if you get a chance, please speak to those who may not have married wisely but have no intention of breaking up their family unit. I know a few Christian, suffering marriages where there is no foundational friendship or respect. I know you guys aren’t in that position but I’m sure you have some wisdom for it. Thankyou for your content! Ya’ll get me through alotta dishes!

I literally can’t get over how GOOOODDD this episode is and I’m not even finished yet 😭😭😭

The part about lust really struck me. This conversation was powerful, we need more male leaders in the church! ❤

I wish I was on this couch ! As a woman who's been married for 10 years to a man who idolized Kevin Samuels and men like him, THIS CONVERSATION IS NEEDED! I needed this, so I know men need this. Thank you!😊

The men misunderstanding leadership and headship, while the women misunderstand submission.

this conversation is everythiiiiiing👏🏿🔥 honestly softened my heart towards men and convicted me to move differently in my future dealings with my brothers in Christ🙌🏿

"God wants men (and women) to depend on Him, more than on strategy". NOW THAT! 🎯 Thankyu 3 for this phenomenal convo. This is truly the sum of it all 🙌🏾 And when Preston said "bathe with unscented soap" 🤣🤣 I died!

The problem is that Western churches operate like lecture classes instead of workshops. When you take a workshop, EVERYBODY has to participate. You can't "attend" a writing workshop without bringing in your work. You critique others and you get critiqued. The ONLY ministry I ever participated in where there was gender balance (or too many men on some occasions!) was a ministry based on training people up to go out to evangelize, heal the sick, and cast out demons. Like if you got saved last week, you fittna be sharing your testimony and praying for people this week! And there was no just "getting saved." You getting baptized ASAP and we pulling on the Holy Spirit to cast these demons out and get you filled with Holy Spirit on Day One. There was NEVER a shortage of men. That's what a "workshop" looks like in a church setting. Faith is built as we do the work. Courage is built as we see God show up. We're able to serve the Lord fully once we get free from demonic oppression. "The kingdom of God is not a matter of talk but of power." (1 Corinthians 4:20) The Christian church needs to talk less and DO more, period.

Regarding the church catering to women, I definitely agree. There are many women's conferences, many female Christian speakers and preachers. But I don't think that the church purposefully caters to women over men because they see us as better consumers, I simply think this is because women are more active within the church. More women attend church, more women are willing to participate and contribute to ministry. For example, my church has a men's ministry that is led by one of the pastor's, but they are barely active (although I have attended churches where the men, although still fewer in number, are quite active). Meanwhile, the women's ministry is a lot more active and social. I don't believe the church is catering to women, I think more women are showing up and reaping the greatest benefit that church provides, which is community. But that sense of community lacks equilibrium if men do not also receive it.

This is toooooo good!! I always ENJOY conversations where these trio feature. This is a gift. Thank you 💗.

I can't stop watching this episode, it's that good! Can't wait to meet you guys in November in London. God bless you all for addressing these issues

A good conversation indeed. Showing men how much they're needed in every community is so important.

This is by far one the best episodes I have watched. Thank you for this. These things need to be discussed more.

This is a much needed truthful conversation. Thank you for having it unapologetically

On the men at church-- I’m a woman lol but from watching over 15 yrs at my church and seeing what my Pastors (husband&wife team example as Pastors)offer the men together and most importantly my Pastor Joe as a man of God himself individually provides as an example for men I believe I can accurately say thru observation that--… my church is rare because men join, serve and are faithful. No one is forcing them to come. No pressure. I believe men need a place to be vulnerable, where it’s safe to share, where there’s consistency, support, be recognized, allowed to grow from where they are, see a strong example of a man of God that works and know that they are loved and are important. I see this actively done at my church. We have mens gathering called Brave every month-150 plus men come out on a Sat morn to get encouragement from our Pastor and fellowship with each other. It’s a beautiful thing🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾💙🙏🏾 I pray this miracle for all ministries .

The switch to Nigerian accent got me hollering 😂😂. Could literally picture the woman saying all that. Thank you Sirs and ma'am!! 🙌🙌🤗

Heard it before in spotify, it was gold, came back to see Jackie's faces and reactions 😂👌

Yoooooo... THIS IS SOOO GOOD!!!! On SO MANY LEVELS!! It's taken a few times to get all the way through and each time I pick back up I'm wowed all over again! SO GOOD YALL!! 💪🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 Keep it up.

I stumbled on this podcast because the previous video ended and praise God for that. Keep keeping it 100% . Not to many dudes and women keeping it absolutely truthful.

As a leader in the local church and identifying the same issues discussed, I appreciate this insight. It helps to hear biblical doctrine and solutions about these problems. It helps even more to be able to immediately implement the solutions within the church culture and systems. Keep teaching. Y’all are helping. Big love to y’all.

Of course another beautiful podcast! Where is the petition to just make this 60 Minutes With The Perry’s. Can’t wait for the tour!

This was very well needed for people to hear! Thank God discipleship is heavy in my church 🙌🏽🙏🏽

My slam poetry coach introduced me to "Almost Saved" just before my senior year of high school. That's when I realized I could do this thing that I thought was so cool for Jesus. My sister bought me the tour DVD a few years later.

“peace is debatable” 😭😭😭😭

Thank you Jackie and Preston as well as Ezekiel for always pouring in to us❤

Talk about PHENOMENAL TALK So touched in the best way by this. Thank you friends, I met y’all every since y’all came to Jacksonville, FL At Murray Hill Theatre, and most all years that followed❤️. Have a few pics and tears I’ve shared and I’m so grateful to have come along this journey and GOD bless you all & your families tremendously 🙌🏾

Thought-provoking, conversation-worthy, and marriage-changing! Thank you for having and sharing this conversation. Powerful stuff!

Poets in Autumn is where I first came across these three amazing people! Lyrically, naturally and most of all spiritually, y’all are some beasts ❤❤❤ Thank you for using your platform to restore, reintroduce, and reconnect the people with God 🎉😊😌

Loved this episode! It was such a gift. Please bring Ezkekial on again

Man I really loved that front to back. Thank you guys so much. These videos and conversations never miss!

That whole Tantrum comment was so spot on. I’ve actually spoken to the broken boy within my husband during an argument, I literally called forth the grown man to the conversation. I waited right there in that moment for my husband to show up as the man he’s called by God to be. Thankfully he’s in counseling to help process thru the unresolved brokenness.

Can’t wait to listen to this episode.. I missed you guys and your deep conversations. Love your Podcast!

This was such a powerful episode! It made me even understand more and better why we as men act and respond in a certain ways. Especially in preparation for marriage. Thank you Preston & Jackie!

"I love y’all but y’all don’t come before Jackie" !!!!! Yesss as it should be! Love this! Friendship is the goal!! Marry somebody you like!! 🙌🏽

You guys. Please continue making these podcasts. PLEASE. I connect with you guys so much, you speak on things that I don’t get to hear much at all in church. I need these conversations.

This was life changing guys, thanks Preston, Ezekiel and Jackie you've completely changed my views 💪🏽

Awesome talk, Thank you. I pray men can be men and their voices can be heard in their own way.

Ms Perry your questions are so on point, I appreciate yall!!

59:29 : OUCH -- big facts! this whole convo is fire. Thank you for this. The convo at the end was soooo gooood. And it's helps underscore the point at the *beginning* -- which is why mentorship and these conversations and discipleship are soooo important.

My Pastor actually just told me the answer to the question at 27:50 recently. The problem with the church, especially the black church, is that the Hebrew Israelites, Muslims and the "Red Pill Community" don't lack Accountability. The lack of accountability is what is hurting our communities the most. The problem is always someone else has a fault/problem and no one feels like they should be the one to solve any issues. The old blame the young, the young blame the old, women blame men, men blame women, ETC. We have to be accountable.

I love this topic. As a woman raised by a man I’ve been very intrigued by men’s mental health and development. Our beings differ in so many ways yet I understand them so well. This deepened my understanding and sparked up new research for me to do! I’ve shared this with a load some of in my life, I hope they are able to grasp this knowledge and let it lead them the right way

There are so many people on the internet giving bad advice, so it’s so refreshing to hear good godly advice! Thank you!!! Please Please Please bring y’all tour to Detroit MI!! This should be a podcast!

I absolutely APPRECIATE this God led conversation! Many chains were broken!

Ezkekiah's reactions to this convos are the hype side man we never knew we needed. Ya'll finna talk for hours and hours if this was not meant to be uploaded. ❤❤😂

Thank you!!!! Yall are all up in my brain. 😂 I'm about to celebrate 30 years of marriage in a few days and I'm still learning. ❤❤❤

I’m a woman and Amen to all of this!!! My church took the opportunity to celebrate all the men of our fellowship on Father’s Day.

Whew!! This was awesome. As a mother 3 adult sons under 30 years of age. That were raised with Christian doctrine. It has been very hard to find a adult Christian man to mentor them, at least one son. I shared this to all three f them.

I am glad you all spoke of the Nation’s impact. I lived right next to the Masjid in the West end, more then 60% of the old heads grew up in church and said they believed in the Bible but the Nation showed them practically and through logical thought he any questions they had but the church leaders shunned them for asking. This is a reminder to be praying for them like I use to. The way they protected our household, and they knew we were Christian’s. The Lord is moving, there is nothing too hard for Him.

Every time y’all bring 🔥!! So much wisdom!

This video is sooooo powerful. Thank you so much for this video to help us really dive in to the real issues. This helps me and others pray more for our men!!

This is such a beautiful and necessary conversation so I thank y’all so much. Every word of it is true. Men NEED to be valued and discipled.

This was so much wisdom to unpack in this episode. I think Preston bares his heart out in this. Thank you Ezekiel and Jackie the host. I will certainly listen to this more than once.

Our men need this! Lord help us build more people like you to continue his works in the church and outside the church 🙌🏾

This conversation was amazing and truly needed. Thank you father for these three and exemplifying your love.

This was so good! It also felt so short. . . God bless your ministry. Praying God raises men in my community with a heart for young men too. ❤

I didn't want it to End!!!!!! I got my ENTIRE life! This was so powerful the wisdom in this video is RICH🙌🏾🙏🏾💙🤴🏿

This was a powerful and beautiful conversation, I enjoyed this. I pray one day I am surrounded by friends who can share these deep and meaningful conversations.

INCREDIBLE! Thank you for these conversations and strengthening the Body!

You guys are so freaking awesome! Jackies words Grips my soul in a way that makes you want to be better! I love her genuine fierce Drivefor Jesus! ❤

Wherever my kingdom man is, I pray he has access to edifying words like this. This is lovely. I pray he has a community of men who understands Jesus and mirror him, I pray ha has a covering. IJN.

I have followed all of them since p4Cm poetry and I love the growth I have seen over the years especially with the Perry's. I love it and in a dying culture they bring so much life.

Wheeeeewwww this was so good. I’m so glad you guys are having these conversations!

This was a great discussion. We need a part two on this topic. Fellas all the best with the tour.