Should you put your phone in rice? Only if you want to buy a new phone

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iPad Rehab Microsoldering & Data Recovery

8 жыл бұрын

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@kriswingert1662 5 жыл бұрын

Jess, after being in the electronics repair industry for over 25 years, it is nice to see you practice and also pass on common sense to the masses in regards to proper repair. Thanks for being part of our community!

@propanemusic 3 ай бұрын

how is this common sense? If you know it because you are a trained professional, how are lay people supposed to know? Thats not "common sense"

@o0fernand0 8 жыл бұрын

Dear Jessa, I came to the comments section only to express my admiration to you. Your explanations are so clear, you're incredibly charmful, completely skillful, and I just love how didáctic and calm you are. Zero arrogance, very mature and an absolutely lovely personality. I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but at least this video of yours contributes against a true sad era of impersonalization through brief and reductionist tutorials about almost anything in KZfaq. I mean, the extension of your videos, your naturalness and your charm gives a very pleasant, human vibe. I felt like it was a personal advice tutorial video, not just a generic, synthetized, step-by-step, impersonalized video. Your style of teaching is unique, or at least, extremely uncommon in KZfaq. My best regards.

@JessaJones 8 жыл бұрын

Comments like this mean a lot to content creators---thanks for taking the time to write :)

@RealButcher 5 жыл бұрын

Spot on!!!!

@Alacritous 5 жыл бұрын

She's still not going to sleep with you.

@Drew791 7 жыл бұрын

I absolutely adore you and your videos for being simple and straight forward. Love that you give real answers for moisture problems and steering people away from the "rice myth". Thank you so much for opening up your shop and techniques for all of us electronics DIYers :)

@jeffflowers5489 7 жыл бұрын

This is one good reason to go back to removable batteries.

@NoSubsWithContent 6 жыл бұрын

Definitely

@nichderjeniche 5 жыл бұрын

or a button in a small hole on the backside to disconnect the battery from the board, like some samsung windows tablets

@Darthy0 5 жыл бұрын

Removable batteries would mean less profit for companies. If you cant buy new battery or you cant pull it out when its water damaged...you have to buy new device = money for company.

@Baron9969 5 жыл бұрын

YES!!!!!!!!! :D@@Darthy0

@steveretiredandcranky 5 жыл бұрын

Sing it brother!

@joshmodeernaplesfl557 5 жыл бұрын

Love your tutorial. Struggling with a 7 issue currently "water". You are very good at explaining what happens inside these crazy phones. Thank you very much!

@dfortaeGameReviews 8 жыл бұрын

Just found your channel. Very informative video! Thank you for sharing your knowledge!

@jay7264 8 жыл бұрын

Love watching you and Luis. You guys make great repairs your such an expert in micro electronics so is luis

@esadmuric7839 8 жыл бұрын

Jessa another great video. I love how you mention all the details and all steps. I really do have much respect to you. Only thing what I do different is that I also desolder shield from flex cable on lcd and clean components underneath. Sometimes that can save you LCD. A lot of time lcd needs backlight change which is not hard to change. Good work.

@ShR33k 6 жыл бұрын

This is an awesome video. I have a water damaged iPhone to fix for a friend. You've given me lots to look for once I get it. Thank you!

@IamDerick 8 жыл бұрын

I have been a Electronics Tech for 38 years and I am still amazed at the work you and Louis Rossman do. Thanks for putting this out! BTW you are in my old stomping grounds. (grew up near Caledonia) Cheers!

@JessaJones 8 жыл бұрын

+Iam D Thank you!

@GadgetUK164 8 жыл бұрын

Subbed =D Found your channel through Louis.

@user-gr5do8nk7e 8 жыл бұрын

me too!

@davidschwartz5127 7 жыл бұрын

me three

@Dwarf19864 7 жыл бұрын

May The Schwartz Be With You... sorry, i couldn't resist :)

@makinjica 7 жыл бұрын

me 2 :)

@CharlieTechie 6 жыл бұрын

Loved the "Grandma fixes an iPhone" on Louis' channel, now a subscriber to your channel as well. Cracked up over the sheep on your head while you worked. Both of you rock.

@mr02gixxer1000 7 жыл бұрын

thats pretty cool to have a wife who can do these kind of repair lucky guy.

@uploadJ 4 жыл бұрын

Plus, PhD in .. microbiology?

@mdamaged 4 жыл бұрын

Would be better to have a wife that wouldn't let a loved one even USE an Apple product to begin with.

@carstuff4u942 3 жыл бұрын

Well it is a 6s plus. Those are 50.00 now. Lol2

@juergenwothke6534 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot for the well founded insights! Good job!

@Alex-zb9zs 6 жыл бұрын

You are so skilled, thank you for all the tips and for making these videos! Really interesting!

@royalrod_ 7 жыл бұрын

The rice helped my phone.. It got water damage and affected my volume.. It was stuck on headphone mode. I put it in some rice for a few hours and walah!! It worked

@kuhrd 7 жыл бұрын

Speaking from electronics experience, if you measure across a capacitor for continuity or resistance you may get a reading or a short beep depending on how large the capacity of the capacitor is. Your meter is putting out a small voltage DC to the circuit you are measuring and so any capacitors in the device will take a short time to charge up. Most meters will register a continuity beep up to 30-40 ohms so that cap charging up is going to look like a short for enough time in most cases that the meter will see it as a momentary short. One other thing to add to this is many of the more expensive meters use a latching circuit on the continuity tester for the length of one beep so even if your meter only reads under the 30-40 ohms for a micro-second it will audible as a full beep.

@anarkan191 8 жыл бұрын

Dear Jessa, many thanks for yet another informative video, I have learned a lot by just watching your videos and have since subscribed, your great work and efforts are very much appreciated.

@UBrickIFix 5 жыл бұрын

I just found you and this is crazy You teach me iPhone I fix it, maybe Cheesy, yes. You? No. Thanks for this awesome channel. Hope to take your class in the coming future!

@mr02gixxer1000 7 жыл бұрын

you are a good teacher very informative thank you.

@thisisaname4661 8 жыл бұрын

Her husband falls through the ice. She rushes to help... "Forget me! Grab my phone!" I can just picture that.

@JessaJones 8 жыл бұрын

+Jessica Postopoly sometimes I think about how that night would have went had I only went for the phone

@lanecoffin1429 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this video. This has opened my eyes so much and I have so much more knowledge about this problem. Thank you!! #subscribed

@migueltechhelp 8 жыл бұрын

Thank for the videos. Is helping a lot of people

@bigvideoenergy 7 жыл бұрын

used rice and silica on my gopro 3 black edition after it went for a swim without the case. got rid of the battery straight away. compressed air the holes in gopro. stuck it in rice for 3 weeks. 3 years later its still working.

@Luzt. 7 жыл бұрын

Superb. Thank you for your time and effort.

@N3ON23 6 жыл бұрын

Breath of fresh air finding someone who actually knows what they're talking about. Some of these other videos are just completely counterproductive. Keep up the good work!

@richiezombie531 8 жыл бұрын

I would have never known! thanks for sharing!!!

@Knowbody42 5 жыл бұрын

1. Disconnect the battery ASAP 2. Disassemble the phone 3. Put the board into distilled water to dissolve any minerals 4. Put the board into methylated spirits to blow away the water 5. Let the methylated spirits evaporate (it evaporates quickly), and reassemble

@brucewayne-px4lv 8 жыл бұрын

i like this channel. thank you for the time you take to upload this videos. Highly informative and useful.

@TheDarkKnightRider 6 жыл бұрын

Ma'am Thank You For Your Tutorial's I Gained So Much Knowledge From You .

@generalyasukethe2nd564 5 жыл бұрын

I just watch these videos for fun, even though I don't know how to fix iPhones

@x.y.8581 7 жыл бұрын

Excellent professional information.

@tu_munich 8 жыл бұрын

Did you just crack the screen open with bare hands?! remarkable! I failed to open the screen with tools..

@tonyweavers4292 5 жыл бұрын

Great video, thanks. You have spent some serious money on tooling and supplies. My eyesight is poor and I am too ham fisted to attempt intricate repairs myself. Keep up the good work and videos!

@BarryS-fh2rg 5 жыл бұрын

I too am an admirer of your skills, candor, and effort for this free info. I'm not an electronics expert. How do we know if it's safe to just remove a capacitor and not replace it? I think that's what you did for this repair or maybe you replaced them and I couldn't see. Thanks for all of this. I just ordered my microscope -- not as fancy as yours. I went to S.U. so I might want to visit again and take your course.

@nickivygoal 5 жыл бұрын

Rice worked for me. My iPhone was soaked in water for about 2-5 minutes in sink. It was iPhone plus with a plastic cover. The phone was dead. I was planning to buy a new one at the moment, but my mother immediately put the phone in rice and told me that she rekindled 3 phones before. Honestly, I did not believe her. Guess what, it took less than 10 minutes before my phone went back on itself. There were some problems: the hole for the ear piece was plugged by rice, the speaker phone did not work, the Bluetooth did not awake. But the WiFi and other functions worked. About 2 hours later in rice, speaker phone worked. Next day morning, the Bluetooth came back. Rice works.

@tomstrb 7 жыл бұрын

Wow your smart!! I wish I had your soldering iron .... de soldering the caps was easy with that iron... Very smart!!!

@larryarbour1560 5 жыл бұрын

What about submerging it in isopropanol to displace the water. Disconnect the battery first? Also I do have an ultrasonic cleaner. What type of solution do you use, how long and what temperature?

@TR5T 5 жыл бұрын

WOW just WOW. a lot of knowledge going on here!!

@martinnash007 8 жыл бұрын

Hi. Thanks for another great informative video. You mentioned that one of the shields was harder to remove, due to a higher melting point solder and I was wondering if it would be any easier if you were to use a board heater on the underside, like you get on BGA repair stations that pre-heat to about 150 Deg C?

@chookey999 8 жыл бұрын

Thoroughly enjoyable and informative video. Well done

@pierreuntel1970 7 жыл бұрын

never have a water damaged phone before.. but does caps actually get shorted because of water? it make no sense to me since those ceramic cap are not affected by water, I think the corrosion is what actually doing the short and when you remove the cap then it get removed together

@L477 7 жыл бұрын

Love your videos! I watch them all day while doing my IT work. Recently I ended up hooked on this Apple repair shop guys show and was suprised when I found you co staring as the grandma. Now off to a practical thought. Most people do not have Isopropanol or Isopropyl alcohol at home on the shelf. So here is the question. What do you think of using concentrated windshield wiper fluid as a substitute? As far as I know the only issue might be the coloring agent used in it which does leave a bit of a residue. Personally I use it as a screen cleaner and general cleaning agent around apparatuses.

@JessaJones 7 жыл бұрын

look under your medicine cabinet---rubbing alcohol. it's next to the peroxide. That's isopropanol

@fckingserious 8 жыл бұрын

i think apple can cover the board with slim silicon layer for water damage

@mckinzi1 5 жыл бұрын

instant rice I say and feed a supply voltage double the actual required voltage ...surely it will provide a smoky trail to one or more defective components which should cook the insant rice

@notarookee778 8 жыл бұрын

OK thanks I appreciate your expert feedback

@Roan_RoRepair 7 жыл бұрын

Is it necessary to also replace the components that you took off? Or will only taking them off solve the shortage problem?

@nebulonv6015 8 жыл бұрын

Holy CRAP!! what kind of thermal tweezers are those?? I need!! :D

@neilaldenarmstrong9806 3 жыл бұрын

What do you think of soaking a wet phone in something like isopropyl alcohol (99%, not "rubbing alcohol") to absorb the water and leave clean, easily evaporated alcohol behind which would dry cleanly?

@danielfuchsberger8977 6 жыл бұрын

Idk when my iPhone 6S got wet, but it shows all the symptoms of water damage like a gyroskope that doesn‘t always work properly as well as some bright spots on the screen and my SIM card slot looked kinda burnt when I opened it up, it also gets really hot sometimes...but it works fine for almost a year since these symptoms first showed up.

@godisgreat6623 5 жыл бұрын

What can you do if you drop it in a puddle and its still on but the ear piece doesn't work?

@thiruganesandhanendraraj1413 8 жыл бұрын

great tutorials, and you have the heart to teach, god bless you. please let us know about the tools you use. like Louis rossman, thanks in advance

@billburkart9087 6 жыл бұрын

I live in Virginia an enjoy your channel. How do i find someone that does what you do?

@flyerh 4 жыл бұрын

Would it be worth using water protective resin on all the boards and components at this stage to protect from future water ingress? My local electrical boffin did this to my water damaged Volvo car computer.

@Matlockization 8 жыл бұрын

Is it possible to increase a phones battery capacity even though the original battery is soldered on ? What do you think about brushing on mineral oil on the mobo to reduce future corrosion and act as way to water proofing your phone ?

@irishguy200007 6 жыл бұрын

Was the screem cracked in falling through ice or was it originally cracked.

@antonyquigley5219 7 жыл бұрын

people just don't realize that it's the shit thats in the water after it drys that wrecks phones, not the water itself.

@reggiemyboy 5 жыл бұрын

omni directional has no fixed direction can be fixed in any position through 360 degrees

@XS1979 8 жыл бұрын

Hi Jes. Thanks for the time you put into your videos. One quick question (not questioning your knowledge) - when you say if there is a short to ground and you get continuity on both ends of the components that means the phone won't turn on? I've done two water damaged iPhone 6's in the last two weeks both with this short to ground fault and both phones turn on and work perfectly fine?

@bastian433 6 жыл бұрын

I have this with laptops and phones at my work. they turn it on while there is still water in it to see if it still works for some reason, and then bring it to me long after it has no use anymore to fix it(laptop) or let someone fix it(phones)

@exiledvoid2429 8 жыл бұрын

hmmm that give a idea why not put the full pcb of any phone into epoxy and only exposing the anttena and cpu for cooling

@MonkeyJedi99 5 жыл бұрын

Number one, cost. A distant number two may be heat distribution. Conformal coating tech introduces a lot of extra testing and cooling requirements.

@Unsensitive 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this. Just fixed my fiances iPhone X. She dropped in a gutter and it was boot looping. Turned it off. Shook as much water out as I could out the sim card slot. Was going to drop it in a container with dessicant, but saw this. Next morning I picked up a kit from iFixit and opened it up with a hair dryer. Was a bit nervous I'd break something, but everything looked good cept a few potential mineral deposits on MB. Pulled it and soaked in 99.9% alcohol, let it dry.. and like it never happened... Wishing I didn't have to reopen it to replace the seal in 2 days once it comes in the mail, but I think I'll be fine.

@Yas-zq4rk 8 жыл бұрын

damn you're actually really right about this! my mom used rice on her phone and it doesn't work properly anymore.

@luigiprovencher8888 7 жыл бұрын

What's a porta pal? Can you add the link to it in the description? Have you ever worked on a raspberry pi?

@gillenzfluff8380 6 жыл бұрын

When I had electronics get wet I took the battery out take the case apart and use a hair dryer or put it in the boiler room it always worked!

@GlycerinZ 5 жыл бұрын

"The microscope doesn't lie" Very true, but Apple does!

@Simon66noob911 8 жыл бұрын

Hi, why not use low melting solder to remove the "hard to remove shield"? Low melting solder is amazing!

@ibjessa 8 жыл бұрын

Because the difficult part isn't the sides, it is the center. Low melt doesn't help

@SajidHussain-lz9pb 8 жыл бұрын

You are awesome!! I need your help to fix my 5s error 9 issue. I saw your vid about it. How do I contact you.

@cooper9658 7 жыл бұрын

Yeah my phone was in a broken lifeproof case underwater for approximately 10 minutes. First thing I did was hit the home button. Phone heated up, probably short circuiting. Dried it when I got home and put it in a container full of silica gel. Set up an appointment at the Apple Store for Sunday. I guess I'll see if it turns on tomorrow or if I'm going to have to get it repaired. Funny thing is that the exact same thing happened to me 2 years ago. Had to buy the early upgrade last time. This time though, I want to get the phone before I go on vacation and am willing to buy a replacement if necessary.

@mystica-subs 7 жыл бұрын

What the actual ?! is that Knight Rider style light on your ceiling in the background on the left?

@paulskelton5601 5 жыл бұрын

What is the liquid you put on the cap before you removed it ?

@michaelparadigm7836 7 жыл бұрын

I like how there is an ad with lipstick in your Video. I would have expected something like "buy brown rice here' but nooo :D great content. And even better info.

@chevy57pkup39 8 жыл бұрын

Do you have any thoughts about the use of a vacuum chamber to get water out of a phone?

@JessaJones 8 жыл бұрын

Useless

@jeffflowers5489 7 жыл бұрын

One thing I learned in college was when you use a meter to test a component while it's still in circuit you're testing all components around it in the schematic. You could have a resistor and a capacitor parallel in a circuit. If you test the capacitor it's going to show resistance.

@JessaJones 7 жыл бұрын

+Jeff Flowers well we do professionally fix iPhone motherboard problems all day every day for phones sent in from all over the world. If you have a short to ground on a line, the multimeter will show low/no resistance to ground on that line as measured at any cap in the circuit.

@jze31 7 жыл бұрын

do you think its worth it to buy a cheap jewelry cleaner or stick to scrubbing? also, how did you determine that the larger cap was blown? it looked fine to me at first glance.

@JessaJones 7 жыл бұрын

Jewelry cleaners do nothing.

@scose 6 жыл бұрын

why not replace the caps? I thought decoupling caps were really important for digital ICs

@johnwelin3894 5 жыл бұрын

Just saw on one of your videos you mentioned how you had a lot of iPhone Xs to repair I’m thinking of buying or rather upgrading to the iPhone XS max do you have a lot of repairs of iPhone XS Max’s? what phone do you use? what Apple phone doesn’t have a lot of problems?

@tanwir0ansari 3 жыл бұрын

Still waiting for error 14 fix " update phone without deleting data. Any news on this ?

@ultimafrequencia 7 жыл бұрын

where I buy those type soldering iron scissors, you have to have two welding nozzles you draw capacitor iPhone

@mattlord2906 5 жыл бұрын

my note 3 hit the water for a second with an otter box cover. took it apart, could not see any water but washed the mother board with alcohol . it works then the screen freezes goes black. dried it with hair dryer after the alcohol. now I think the screen is OK cuz it works then it doesn't. i think the screen or the part that make the screen work is probably bad. not sure what to do. I hate to buy another this one has worked great. any Ideas? Thank You, Matt

@hedonisticzen 4 жыл бұрын

My oil light came on but my car runs fine I'll get to it next week! The equivalent thinking of the phone dry out.

@CGoody564 7 жыл бұрын

I know it's dumb, but I always do that if there is water visible under the glass of the screen/when it won't accept touch input. hasn't failed me quite yet luckily. It will though

@gregorbasse 7 жыл бұрын

You can also wave your hands around it and wisper some magic spell words, it won't fail either. The point is rise treatment is equal to no treatment.

@protectaa 6 жыл бұрын

yea problem is opening it up means voiding warranty.. id rather put it in rice and dont turn it on until ive let it with rice for the weekend.. it can prevent water that would eventually damage the board

@JessaJones 6 жыл бұрын

Opening your phone does not void the warranty, however water damage does void the warranty. If you immediately open a wet phone and disconnect the battery, and dry the phone you can save more phones than if you do nothing (by putting it in rice or anything else). Doing nothing can work sometimes if you're lucky, but often it just allows water droplets to roll across waterproofed surfaces inside the phone and drop down on the logic board causing a short circuit and kills what would have been a repairable phone. It also allows the full battery voltage to expend into logic boards that instantly got a short circuit when water hit the board---essentially electroplating the entire main power line. The takes what was fixable focal damage and turns it into widespread unfixable damage. Rice is ALWAYS a bad idea.

@protectaa 6 жыл бұрын

iPad Rehab well I can't get the battery out, it's attached and there is a sticker that makes opening it void in warranty!

@gonzalobravo9 5 жыл бұрын

if you open it up does the guarantee get void?

@maximilianobarac8066 7 жыл бұрын

woman you are a genius repair professional , i'd love to know all you know some day , i found your videos searching for some solution , i've got an iphone 6s for rapair , not turning on at all , changed the charging port & same situation , then i realised the battery was 0V , bought a new one , placed it & the phone turned on just fine but it doesn't charge , i'm using a brand new geniune apple lighting cable and wall charger (they both work perfectly in my brtoher's working iphone 6s ) and the phone doesn't charge , and when i connect it to the laptop , the laptop doesn't recognize anything , any ideas please ? thank you so much your channel is absolutely awesome

@JessaJones 7 жыл бұрын

change tristar chip

@MrStevetmq 8 жыл бұрын

Yes I agree with you for things like iPhones. The rice thing comes from a time when phones were bigger and they had more space for the water to evaporate before corrosion can happen and in that case rice(dry un-cocked LOL) would help.

@RuneVenes 8 жыл бұрын

So if we can disconnect the battery, send it in, in a bag of alcohol.

@sOmebOdyrand0m 5 жыл бұрын

What sorts of skills do i need to do this work? Is it a service repair technician cert? I want to do this

@ByGraceIGo 5 жыл бұрын

Some of us don't have enough money to let a professional. :-( Instant rice does dry things out. And my phone is a non removable cover, so what do you suggest about that???

@rafalszymecki813 8 жыл бұрын

Hey I have 2 iphones that have no display and when plugged to charger I keep getting the connect disconnect sound. Im able to restore it without errors. Would that be u2 or pmic ?

@holybatwingsbatman 7 жыл бұрын

Incredible video Jessa. I've worked at Fluke for years and have worked as a technician so I really respect what you are doing here. Honestly a lot of companies got out of board test because of the extreme miniaturization you're dealing with. We had digital testers that probed legs along the IC, we had probes that even probed those original Motorola and Intel CPUs. I'm just fascinated by your videos......being that I'm coming from the test world where we basically threw in the towel on trying to fix devices like you're fixing! By the way, I'll say it again thank you for standing up to Apple. It really infuriates me they ban you from their forums for trying to help their customers. What ever happened to common decency? Ooooooh, it boils the blood.

@robertgallant6422 6 жыл бұрын

Finally the Real and Correct way to recover a water damaged phone. Thanks, great video!!!

@jonathanbravo7108 7 жыл бұрын

Hello, in the case of the heavily corroded phone, can the photos still be recovered?

@JessaJones 7 жыл бұрын

You never know. We have recovered phones that spent 4 months at the bottom of the ocean, and also failed to recover board that spent a few minutes in light rain. It all depends.

@rossmanngroup 8 жыл бұрын

Doesn't he know you don't fix water damage for the sake of the phone?

@ibjessa 8 жыл бұрын

Guess not.

@juanbo1982 3 жыл бұрын

A trick : you can watch series on InstaFlixxer. I've been using it for watching a lot of movies during the lockdown.

@gaelcullen668 3 жыл бұрын

@Juan Bo Yup, been using InstaFlixxer for years myself :)

@frosty1433 7 жыл бұрын

Why not immediately rinse in alcohol, once you have the phone apart?

@frosty1433 7 жыл бұрын

Okay never mind, I understand now that it's electricity causing the corrosion, and residue left by water will be cleaned off later.

@sjankarcher 7 жыл бұрын

I remember leaving my Game Boy on the swing and the rain came... I dried it on the heater. Game boy works to this day after that but I know it's probably due to bigger components(corrosion has to be much bigger to make critical damage). I will take it apart and see if I can find any marks of water damage. Just for fun.

@danh2204 3 жыл бұрын

How do you explain alot of people saying the rice method works? Did the phone's just dry out naturally?

@ainzooalgown7589 8 жыл бұрын

is ti okay to let it sit in 100% alcohol after dropping it in water then dissemble or send it to repair shop while sitting in alcohol. What kind of soldering iron is that at 29:30

@asicdathens 5 жыл бұрын

That's why I have a S7 edge. If you take a small swim of the phone gets wet you just wipe the water from it. I am afraid what will happen when I have to replace the battery when the phone will no longer be properly sealed from water ingress.

@snakeisekans 7 жыл бұрын

I dropped my htc m7 in the toilet (clean ofc) and left it on a towel for 1 hr, it works?

@MrGhostrider135 8 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure if this question has a very easy answer, but i'm asking anyway: Is there a reason why alle the components aren't completly covered in underfill other than apple being apple and wanting you to buy a new phone from time to time? I guess it could create heat related problems? Maybe it would make water unrelated repair nearly impossible?

@JessaJones 8 жыл бұрын

underfill has its own biology. it isn't something that you can just dump on a phone---thermal expansion in relationship to the solder ball thermal expansion, heat dissipation for example.