The Maiar of Middle-earth

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The Maiar of Middle-earth were lesser beings of the Ainur, but still quite powerful in their own right. From this group, we have beings such as Sauron, Saruman, Melian, and Gandalf, as well as many others besides. In this video, we take a look at this group of characters and its members to see how they interact within Arda and Tolkien’s works as a whole. Thank you all so much for watching, let me know your thoughts about the Maiar in the comments below! As always, a great thanks to the online artists whose visual works made this video possible! If you are one of the artists, please let me know and I will post your name and a link to your work in this description!
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@thorondor1593 4 жыл бұрын

"Sauron would go to harass the free peoples" Yeah, harass is a good word for all that.

@darkestnight0014 3 жыл бұрын

Understatement of the year!😂😅

@reinhardtscheepers6317 3 жыл бұрын

@@darkestnight0014 Understatement of the Second and Third ages.

@jacksuitor1853 3 жыл бұрын

@@reinhardtscheepers6317 and to an extent the first

@susannawolf 3 жыл бұрын

he's a KAREN confirmed

@wooshmeifurgay7452 3 жыл бұрын

I don't know about you, but I sympathize with Mairon(Sauron).

@athankoh1 4 жыл бұрын

He might be known as Olorin in the Undying Lands, Mithrandir by the eleven folks, but for us, the Men of the West, he will always be Gandalf, the greatest wizard in all of literature!

@stalematesibling 3 жыл бұрын

The greatest wizard in literature is merlin.

@factanonverba7547 3 жыл бұрын

@@stalematesibling wrong again. Solomon is greatest magic user.

@ginjaninja2666 3 жыл бұрын

Pug from the magician!

@Dante-vf4sd 3 жыл бұрын

@@factanonverba7547 Harry Potter

@factanonverba7547 3 жыл бұрын

@@Dante-vf4sd harry's pooter

@juanmartin8776 4 жыл бұрын

Fun theory: Why everyone possessed by the One Ring call it "precious"? Because The Ring has a part of Sauron's essence. Sauron's true, original name? Mairon, that can also be translated as Precious.

@anemone3694 4 жыл бұрын

That's oddly wholesome

@Count.Saruman 4 жыл бұрын

'Mairon' is 'Admirable One'.

@gargoyles9999 3 жыл бұрын

Juan Martín so Sauron was a black 250lb girl?

@John-se3fm 3 жыл бұрын

@@gargoyles9999 😂😂😂

@Skelstoolbox 3 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure Mairon meant "Admirable One" to serve Aule which sums up his skills and knowledge perfectly to a T...

@nicholasarvanitis2942 4 жыл бұрын

My favourite maiar is olorin, everybody’s favourite wizard

@kreuzrittergottes9336 4 жыл бұрын

Mine is sauron

@nicholasarvanitis2942 4 жыл бұрын

Kreuzritter Gottes he’s my second 😁

@uuuueber 4 жыл бұрын

Same and my favorite Valar is Nienna

@nicholasarvanitis2942 4 жыл бұрын

uuuueber mine is melkor, if you can count him, but if not him then I would say varda

@uuuueber 4 жыл бұрын

Nicholas Arvanitis ah Melkor, what a dick

@paulwagner688 3 жыл бұрын

I've probably mentioned it before, but Arien the maiden of the Sun, was also of the same type of Maia as the Balrogs--a Spirit of Fire. Whose eyes were too bright for anyone to look into. But she remained pure and uncorrupted.

@kyleenglot9184 3 жыл бұрын

It seems like there are different kinds of fire in Tolkien's world. Fire that destroys and scorches the world, and fire that lights and instills rebirth and creation itself. Arien may have been somewhat conceived of the Secret fire itself through which only Eru Iluvatar can openly use to bring life into the Universe.

@orrointhewise3913 4 жыл бұрын

"I've been sent back, until my task is done" I always had a soft spot for the Mair, they were powerful and mighty in their own right but they still answered to a higher power, even if it was their own ambitions and desires To me they're the most diverse group as they came in many forms; wizards, balrogs, concepts of water, air, sun and moon, so fascinating Shout out to my girl Melian 🤘🏻 I feel like if she took on Sauron the way Galadriel did it would have been EPIC!!!! 😁

@_semih_ 4 жыл бұрын

There was no a fight between Galadriel and Sauron in the books. Also Sauron would kick Galadriels ass she just an elf not a divine being unlike Sauron

@michelmorio8026 4 жыл бұрын

When did Galadriel took on Sauron? I hope you don‘t consider the scene from the Hobbit trilogy as canon 🤔 From what we know from the book, that was an team effort by the White Council... which is consisting of more powerful beings then the 4 shown in the movie... and additionally, they had all 3 Elven Rings with them which as I think was the largest factor in throwing out the ‚Necromancer‘

@orrointhewise3913 4 жыл бұрын

@@michelmorio8026Lol yes I was referring to the film and no it's not cannon, I firmly recognize that. But it was still a powerful scene and I just wondered how much more amazing it had been if Melian took him on since they were both of the same "race" or origins at least, or if she wielded one of the elvin rings! Just my imagination running away again ^_^

@_semih_ 4 жыл бұрын

@@orrointhewise3913 Mairon (aka Sauron) known as the strongest Maia(angelic beings) So he would probably beat Melian too. Sauron has the abilities of 4 Vala (kinda Archangels) He can control the weather, He can control dead spirits/ghosts, he can use Melkor's dark magics (melkor is the strongest Vala), and he is a great smith and cunning. Also Sauron is a Maia and a shape shifter...

@markrutledge5855 4 жыл бұрын

@@orrointhewise3913 Please don't confuse the movies with the books. It gives me heartburn.

@docjoebie 4 жыл бұрын

I feel like yoystan is a secret maia that serves tulkas

@MenoftheWest 4 жыл бұрын

Oh no... they found me out XD *grabs dumbbells and Tulkas-manufactured protein and runs off*

@tylerbrubaker6642 4 жыл бұрын

Men of the West I always knew you were a servant of muscle boi 😂

@docjoebie 4 жыл бұрын

Men of the West Lumequentale, meaning “History” is one of the 2 Maiars that serve Tulkas, the Champion of the Valar and the savior of the protein. He currently takes the form of a man named Yoystan and documents the history of Arda. The other Maia that served Tulkas is named Polda, meaning “Strong” who also takes the form of a man named Royen and helps Lumequentale document the history of Arda. They are currently the only known Maiar to be in Arda at the moment. Their intentions are unknown However Theories suggest that they maybe here to warn us of Dagor Dagorath or they are maybe here simply to inform us about the ages of the world that we have long since forgotten.

@bigshoga 4 жыл бұрын

"Many are my names in many countries. Mithrandir among the Elves, Tharkûn to the Dwarves, Olórin I was in my youth in the West that is forgotten, in the South Incánus, in the North Gandalf; to the East I go not. But on KZfaq, its yoystan😊"

@k3vinhayne 4 жыл бұрын

Amazing0range xD a wrestler? surely Lorien.

@BigBWolf90 4 жыл бұрын

"The Grey Pilgrim, that's what they used to call me. Three hundred lives of men I've walked this earth and now I have no time."

@silverdragon710 4 жыл бұрын

In most myths known to me at the time and as it is generally viewed the Sun is masculine while the Moon is feminine. In Tolkien's Silmarillion it was the first time that I ran across the oposite case, Sun as feminine and the Moon as masculine and only later did I learn that in the more ancient mythologies it is like that as well. The earliest peoples represented their Sun as a goddess and that was their central deity. The more I learn the more I'm fascinated by how much Tolkien must have known and how much he must have been learned in mythologies of the whole world. Historically, to have your Sun represented by a female deity meant that the people are more agriculturally oriented and peaceful, and very spiritual about Earth and nature, which corresponds with the views of Elves generally and as the first of the Illuvatar's beings on Arda.💚

@sophiejones3554 2 жыл бұрын

Well I think Tolkien probably did it because in German the Sun is a feminine noun (die Sonne) and the Moon (der Mond) is a masculine noun. Whereas in the Latin languages it’s the opposite: and we get many of our popular ideas about such things from the Normans. But basically to a German, there’s nothing strange about this arrangement. Tolkien was very heavily inspired by Norse and Germanic mythology. But you’re sort of correct in that that’s possibly a holdover from very ancient myths wherein the Sun was a goddess. However, at the time that Tolkien was writing much of the research into those societies had not been done yet. Also, do keep in mind that ancient peoples were not a monolith. “the earliest peoples” had no single opinion on religion: how they conceived of the Sun and Moon would have depended a lot on where they lived. Many of the archaeological finds you speak of come from Germany, Poland etc Northern countries with temperate climates where the feminine Sun and masculine Moon makes quite a bit of sense. Hence the Sun goddess and Moon god. But the idea of a masculine Sun and feminine Moon is not any newer: it merely comes from a different place, namely the Mediterranean basin. It’s pretty obvious why an Italian would think of the Sun as a guy and the Moon as a girl. One is not earlier, these two interpretations merely come from different places.

@joshcanttakeajoke2853 2 жыл бұрын

@@sophiejones3554 its fascinating how much language can influence beliefs and I find it fascinating how much beliefs can influence language. By the word of the Lord the heavens were made, their starry host by the breath of his mouth Its almost like our ancestors knew how important language was as well. Actually, how could they have denied its importance, it took them hunter gatherers to societal living. The importance of language had to have been passed down from gen to gen, religion to religion

@anduinlothar4003 Жыл бұрын

Japanese mythology sun is also female and moon is male

@donaldscholand4617 4 ай бұрын

Maybe he wanted the moon to be masculine because he wanted to include that song about the man in the moon getting drunk in a bar into the scene at the Prancing Pony in Bree when Frodo slips (while dancing on a table) and accidentally puts on the ring?

@shadowofchaos8932 4 жыл бұрын

Melian presence in Belariand leads to all the actions following the First age. Her tale is epic.

@joshhoffman5233 Жыл бұрын

Nobody is anybody unless they’re somehow descended from Melian

@trevorp8124 4 жыл бұрын

->Starts off interested in crafting ->Breaks the game mechanics and spends the rest of the time messing with people and going insane with power Sounds like your average RPG player

@dreenarmookington2240 4 жыл бұрын

I mean if you look at the crafting systems in Daggerfall/Morrowind, you're not wrong

@bobbob-yr4bh 4 жыл бұрын

You are not wrong

@MrBigCookieCrumble 4 жыл бұрын

Or your average server/forum Admin!

@erzar.1730 3 жыл бұрын

you are totally right.

@astronmr20 3 жыл бұрын

LEEEEROY JENKIIIINS

@morrigandanae 4 жыл бұрын

Yes the Maiar! My favourites are probably Sauron and Gandalf. It always seems to be the Maiar of Aule that are like: Nope. It's evil time!

@TheDeluche 3 жыл бұрын

It makes me think, “Is Aule secretly evil?” I mean he also kinda did a taboo and created the dwarves even before the awakening of Eru’s children because he was impatient.

@waynepurcell6058 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheDeluche True but it was Eru Iluvatar himself that gave the Dwarves life after he saw Aule had genuine repentance for being impatient and doing what he did. I don't think Aule is "evil", I just think he acts almost childlike and impulsive at times.

@siryoda8145 2 жыл бұрын

@@waynepurcell6058 I wouldn’t call it being impulsive- but there is something to your point, I think. In some of his incomplete works and one of his letters, Tolkien refers to this. If you think of the evil that is done across the ages, students of Aule and Melkor come to mind. With Aule, you could lump in Sauron, Saruman, Feanor, many of the Nolder, many of the dwarves . . . Even with regards to Melkor, it seems Tolkien focuses in on something to do with the . . . powers of invention and creativity driving spirts to folly . . . or worse, evil. Tolkien explicitly rejected metaphors for his work, but one cannot be ignorant of the times he lived through. Progress and change (and the agents of such) were not always “good” in the 20th century. Whereas spirits who were more or less content and at peace with themselves-think of Manwe and the Vanyar as examples-could be and were extremely powerful, but not nearly as “creative” did not fall prey to evil.

@genxdoom8437 2 жыл бұрын

Gandalf wasn’t of Aule’s Maiar, he kind of drifted from one Valar to the other, he was a free agent Maiar lol

@morrigandanae 2 жыл бұрын

@@genxdoom8437 He was one of Nienna's Maiar. But you're right, he was more of a free guy lol

@katieshupe6298 3 жыл бұрын

I love that you describe Sauron attacking and planning the downfall of the free peoples as “harassment”, it’s hilarious!

@andrewpulda7969 4 жыл бұрын

When Morgoth was captured at the end of the war of wrath "his feet we hewn from under him and he was bound in the chain Angainor". It would be Eonwe cut his feet off Tulkas subdued him and Olwe bound him. So yes I belive some of the Valar would have been directly involved but not Manwe he would have to stay "above the fray". Keep up the great work it both indicates and initiates great thought. Its what we need more of these day more thought before we act or speak.

@AlphaZaku 4 жыл бұрын

But notice the quote you provided doesnt actually state any names of who did those acts. You're presuming Tulkas did it when theres no other indication that he was present. Eönwë later keeps the Silmarils in order to return them to Aman. He also states that Maedhros and Maglor have to return to Aman to be judged by the Valar, because he cannot release the Silmarils to them without the Valar's consent. If any of the Valar were present, all of this becomes moot, because they would be able to take the Silmarils there and then, and judge Maedhros and Maglor there and then too. Or in the least have this interaction with them personally instead of Eönwë. The fighting was over. Eönwë, whose expertise was warfare, need no longer be in charge, unless hes the highest statured Aniu there, meaning no Valar.

@andrewpulda7969 4 жыл бұрын

Of coarse I'm assuming the presents of these Valar because who else would be strong/powerful enough to accomplish these feats? Fingolfin as mighty as he was could only wound Morgoth. It would take beings of great power to lop his feet off and subdue him and wield Angainor. You have to read between the lines with much of the Sillmarlion as it encompasses eons of time and exact details couldn't be fleshed out. Remember there were only 2 people who worked on this huge work. So in my mind yes at least a few of the Valar could/would have been involved Tulkas as defacto God of war and Alwe is to wield his creation Angainor.

@AlphaZaku 4 жыл бұрын

@@andrewpulda7969 You're taking Morgoth to be as powerful as he was when he fought Fingolfin. He wasn't. Morgoth drastically reduces his own personal might by dispersing his power throughout Arda. He goes from being unassailable by all the Valar combined to being lesser than Manwë at the Siege of Utumno when he's first chained. He's lesser still when Fingolfin later battles him 1 on 1 and permenantly wounds him. He continues to decline through to the end of the War of Wrath, where Tolkien describes Sauron in the SA to be greater than Morgoth at this time in the the FA. Sauron of course was slain in mortal combat by Gil-galad and Elendil. It absolutely wouldn't require the Valar to assail Morgoth and bind him.

@paulwagner688 3 жыл бұрын

By this time, Morgoth had sent so much of his power and spirit into his creatures that he was easily overcome by the Maia Eonwe and those who came with him.

@huntclanhunt9697 4 жыл бұрын

I'd like to see a video where you try and look at Sauron's point of view, and see how he may have justified his actions.

@tima5033 4 жыл бұрын

That would be a great video! To get to hear how sauron manipulated himself into his rationalizations

@Doomseer 4 жыл бұрын

I think a big part of his motivations aswell as his master's is that above all might makes right and that complete and utter dominance over all creation was the only way to achieve everlasting peace and instill obedience into the hearts of mortals. So basically the complete opposite of Iluvatar who out of everlasting love and respect for his children bestowed to them the ability of free will and the right to rule themselves.

@huntclanhunt9697 4 жыл бұрын

@@tima5033 or how Morgoth manipulated him.

@tima5033 4 жыл бұрын

@@huntclanhunt9697 oh yeah I'd like to learn more about the dynamics of that relationship.

@djentmas867 3 жыл бұрын

It was a lot like the relationship I have with my “daddy” ;D

@sid2112 4 жыл бұрын

A new Men of the West video on a Sunday with fresh sticky green after a day of making pastries? Oh hell yeah!!!

@borreliaetc 3 жыл бұрын

I have loved lotr/silmarillion/hobbit since my parents read them to me... I just came across this channel and cannot get enough!!! You've opened my eyes to new things, enriched my understanding and knowledge of Middle-earth and the Undying lands. "Thank you" doesn't seem like enough gratitude for what I'm feeling right now. Love your work! Anna from WA State, USA

@IoanCenturion 4 жыл бұрын

I really got to get more educated on many of Tolkien's more mythological characters. These vids seem a great place to start! Thanks man.

@IoanCenturion 4 жыл бұрын

@dreaming of electric sheep Yeah. Still, reading the Silmarillion for the third time isn't exactly the easiest refresher. :D

@madambutterfly1997 4 жыл бұрын

One thing I've come to learn about both The Valar and the maiar, if they say they can't do something it actually means they just choose not to.

@tonyaxis3063 4 жыл бұрын

Whatever they do, usually has great consequences.

@madambutterfly1997 4 жыл бұрын

@Melkhiordarkblade I understand that their power could sink half the continent into the ocean but not using your power at all is just as bad as going all out

@CannabisDreams 4 жыл бұрын

@@madambutterfly1997 not if you actions cause more suffering in the end than doing nothing causes in the immediate

@madambutterfly1997 4 жыл бұрын

@@CannabisDreams so they can't seem to tell the difference between divine intervention and unrestrained calamity. But then again no omelette was made without breaking some eggs

@CannabisDreams 4 жыл бұрын

@@madambutterfly1997 tell you what, you get world breaking divine power and you tell me about unavoidable consequences - especially when daddy Eru says no

@arbiterofthehornedrat1570 4 жыл бұрын

so who is rewatched the lotr (For like the 900 time😁)

@biggusdickusiv5883 4 жыл бұрын

I really like the rankin and bass hobbit movie, so i start with thatand then i watch the extended lotr movies

@loganpalpatine5189 4 жыл бұрын

👍🏻

@ClarkIsSuperman-iw9gu 4 жыл бұрын

At least once a year.

@saberhamlinconmaverickknud4821 4 жыл бұрын

Not me. Those movies are trash, but are much better than the Hobbit Films! At least lotr has much, much more practical effects, and the special effects are better. But, the story went nowhere and there was also no character development, which are both equally important. There was way too much action and plot holes. Peter Jackson and Co. and a big chunk of Hollywood are Anti-History and Ant-Religion. But, there are scenes in movies that are good, some of the casting was amazing, and all of Howard Shore's music is the best part. He should have composed more Anglo-Saxon music to Moria, Rohan and Gondor, though. If Peter Jackson and Co. allowed Tom Shippey, Christopher Lee to Direct/Write and Produce them, and have Christopher Tolkien talk with Jackson, then it would be an amazing TV show, or else, it is unfilmable. You did a really cool video though, Yoystan!

@geert574 4 жыл бұрын

If you watch the movies you are not real tolkien fan

@KS-xk2so 4 жыл бұрын

Maybe the best scene in the The Hobbit movies has a nice little nod to Olorin. Where Gandalf talks to Galadriel about how its the small things, ordinary deeds of every day folks, that keep the darkness at bay. He admits that he is afraid, and Bilbo gives him courage. Perfect display of Olorin's wisdom and lack of pride or vanity.

@thorondor1593 4 жыл бұрын

Aiwendil was a fun guy to hang around. Probably the only humanoid I've ever encountered who would not only respect carefully preened feathers but even offer to comb them himself. Radagast, however, was an entirely different beast...

@gino7lord 3 жыл бұрын

The most iconic early conception of a Maia was Tevildo Lord of cats, who would become Sauron.

@debbie4503 2 жыл бұрын

Hey, don't insult cat's like that! Everyone knows cats have no master, only servants! 😸

@danielmcdivitt1334 4 жыл бұрын

Love the late uploads makes the night shift in the uk go better 💙💙

@quinnwatson951 4 жыл бұрын

**Gandalf intensifies**

@andrewfoltz4665 4 жыл бұрын

Dang you! Love you all, and all was in good fun!

@joerod3396 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for all your wonderful content they make my days go by with a little extra joy.

@dandowns2665 3 жыл бұрын

Tolkien would be proud! I love your channel we need this in times like these to show people what is just and right and good! We are living in a time with no heroes and no morals

@mikkelhagen9177 3 жыл бұрын

Surprising end note to the video, I really appreciated that. I've been enjoying your videos for a while, I haven't gotten myself to start rereading anything, but this is a wonderful substitute. Thank you very much for dedicating so much time to making Tolkien's lore available like this. Wonderful work!

@srimadhumithra2330 4 жыл бұрын

Your videos on aspects of Ennorath and of Aman are extremely educational. The images and the background music used are truly beautiful. Keep the excellent work up! Love your videos.

@jimmcleod7286 3 жыл бұрын

The art you collected is absolutely beautiful.

@vixendoe2545 4 жыл бұрын

Loved this. It will warrant multiple views. A lot of information to absorb.

@markshaffer6447 3 жыл бұрын

I always thought that there were lower forms of Maiar that dwelt in Middle Earth, the ones that became the giants, eagles, the beornings, and great horses. I think this explains the nature of the obscure creatures corrupted by Sauron & Melkor; the watcher of the water, dragons, ungoliant, etc

@GamingTremor 4 жыл бұрын

This is one of your best videos yet. Thanks for posting this!

@renektonudyrftw5156 3 жыл бұрын

Thank u so much for wat u do my friend as u say we might not all know each other directly but we all love or care for everyone who has come to appreciate tolkiens works and i feel and overwhelming sensation of several different feelings wen i watch ur videos of tolkien and find myself being brought to tears of most of the time happy and a rekindleness off faith for mankind, bc i dnt know about yall but wen i look out into the world through the internet i most of the time left with a doom and gloom look for our future but wen i come across videos of urs and some others i see good and love that i think most of us wish to see everywhere anyway sorry carried on for so long but i felt i had to leave my first fcomment on ur channle plz continue wat u do and never let anyone make u think anything diff then ur doing amazing work ty again and everyone i hope u stay safe and healthy out ther in middle earth

@user-sd7ri9fy4i 4 ай бұрын

Nice work dude thanks for the playlists

@YourOldUncleNoongah 4 жыл бұрын

Many thanks my friend, I watch these videos and feel a great sense of wonder at the universe that man know as Tolkien created and i must say what a pleasure it is hearing your voice recount all these marvellous details on this middle earth. I extend my best wishes to you, all of your kin and everyone who reads this in these uncertain, and for many, difficult and heartbreaking times. Reality is as harsh as it can get for many of us, i myself am going thru dark times, but if i can escape this heavy weight of burden on my heart by watching this video and once again walk middle earth, it brightens my soul. Again, thank you.

@ChiaraSiasat 4 жыл бұрын

Another great video! I’m surprised that there is no Epic Character video for Tulkas yet! Olorin is definitely one of my favorite Maia’s in the legendarium. I always wandered whatever really happened to the blue wizards.

@shadowofchaos8932 4 жыл бұрын

I did too. Tolkien addressed this in a letter to a friend and left their fate untold. He said they must have gone east to aid the men and their tale is lost. Paraphrasing of course but the master left it open.

@ChiaraSiasat 4 жыл бұрын

Shadowofchaos 89 Tolkien did leave a lot of things open ended or he didn’t go much into certain character backgrounds like Legolas for example or what happened to the sons of Elrond after their father sailed did they too take up with the first born or did they follow in Arwen’s footsteps and stay behind in Middle Earth.

@zidanelionheart 4 жыл бұрын

Eonwe seems like a pretty cool guy, I'd have like to have known more of his exploits.

@thepallghost6443 4 жыл бұрын

Could you do a what if sauron went west at the end of the first age

@_semih_ 4 жыл бұрын

Good idea

@markrutledge5855 4 жыл бұрын

There would be no story!

@charmedprince 3 жыл бұрын

@@markrutledge5855 lolol

@corneliaoxienstierna1439 3 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't be shaking and crying after reading it Yo, I literally feel bad for him, the seed Melkor left in him was too strong

@warriorpoet458 4 жыл бұрын

For me this was a very timely video with your message at the end. Thank you.

@celestejohnston6613 4 жыл бұрын

Yoystan! I really enjoyed this video. There is so much information in this video I shall have watch two or three times!! And a big YES PLEASE on an Epic History of Melian!!!! Thank you so much for all you are doing!

@gobigblue6782 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, such a great video of shedding light on so many characters and their back stories. For all their power and knowledge many of them still turned to evil or fell into despair. Such a great video

@ErelasInglor 4 жыл бұрын

Fantastic spotlight on these little known beings of Eru. I want to also applaud you for your fantastic work enunciating so many of these names many do not know how to, it definitely helps the ears of those that would wish to do so. :) Quick note: Nienna is a confusing one because of some inconsistencies but general consensus would dictate that Tolkien would say it like "nee-eh-nah" or with IPA standards [ˈɲenːa] the i would be short so no i sound as in the older English word "nigh" or high. Hope that helps and thanks as always for your wonderful videos.

@beatleblev 4 жыл бұрын

I don't believe that the Valar participated directly in the War of Wrath: 1. Eonwe is in charge. It does not seem that there are any of the Valar to outrank him. 2. The War of Wrath took a long time. If even Tulkas was involved, he would have bounded across Beleriand Hulk style, tossing orcs and trolls in his wake like a NFL running back versus a defense made of Pop Warner kids. Balrogs might be an inconvenience, but their bodies have necks and backs that can break eventually. As for Morgoth, he has only grown weaker since the last time he and Tulkas tangled. Tulkas has been dancing, drinking, and doing it with Nessa, the Vala of Good Times, instead of exploring the breaking point of Eru's patience by breeding mockeries of his Children like Morgoth. The fight between Morgoth and Tulkas in the War of Wrath would be one sided, and short. On the other hand, I wonder if Tharbad or perhaps Ost-in-Edhil would have been beachfront property if the whole Valar gang teamed up against Morgoth as they had in the past. 3. No judgement occurred on Middle Earth. The mercy for the Elves was heralded by Eonwe, but that decision had been made prior to the War. Instead, the pardon that Eonwe offers the elves is on behalf of the Valar and would not pass judgement on Sauron, but instead commanded him to seek pardon at the feet of Manwe, his lord. 4. The Valar were involved indirectly. Most notably, the Great Eagles of Manwe fought with the Host against the winged fire drakes near the end of the War of Wrath. 5. Nobody (lookin' at you Maedhros and Maglor) is going to steal a Silmaril or two from the Valar. Nope.

@_semih_ 4 жыл бұрын

I think u are a little bit wrong. All of Valar were there. They caused Beleriand to sunk...remember

@beatleblev 4 жыл бұрын

@@_semih_ We are not told what cause Beleriand to sink beneath the the sea. We are only told, "For so great was the fury of those adversaries (The Host of Valinor vs. The Host of Morgoth) that the northern reaches of the western world were rent asunder, and the sea churned in through many chasms, and there was confusion and great noise; and rivers perished or found new paths, and the valleys were upheaved and the hills were trod down; and Sirion (where 40 of the 50 years of fighting was spent) was no more." (Silmarillion, p. 312) Eonwe bids Sauron, Maedhros, and Maglor to return to Valinor to face the judgement of the Valar, so it seems that they were not on hand to pronounce judgement. There were plenty of the Maiar in the Host of Valinor to do continent rending damage over 50 years of war. I think there were earlier versions where Tulkas was involved and led the Sons of the Valar, who later became the Maiar. By the end of the First Age, Morgoth had expended so much of himself in the Marring of Arda and in the creation of his servants that his power had eroded to the level that he could be wounded by one of the Children of Eru (Fingolfin) and those wounds could not be healed. This could never happen to Melkor before the First Age began. However, by its end, he had squandered so much of his innate power that he was defeated by the Herald of Manwe, Eonwe.

@alantaylor6691 3 жыл бұрын

@@beatleblev You are on fire. Who wins a fight out of Eonwe and Tulkas? It is said Eonwe is the most "skilled" combat artist in Arda, so does that mean he is literally the best fighter, would he beat Tulkas in a fight?

@beatleblev 3 жыл бұрын

@@alantaylor6691 I'm not sure a Maia could beat a Vala in any contest as the power levels are on different scales. But, Eonwe is one of the most powerful Maiar and Tulkas' sphere of influence on Arda is fairly narrow, being the patron of ass kicking and having good times, so maybe? For argument sake I might agree that in a contest of armed combat Eonwe would win as Tulkas fights unarmed and sees no use for weapons. That's probably because Tulkas does not need them. He IS a weapon. It is more probable that Tulkas would simply snatch Eonwe's weapon and beat him into submission. I do think that Eonwe is probably the better tactician and leader. But, to borrow from another genre, this is Marvel's Hercules vs. Captain America. Tulkas put a beatdown on Melkor and drug him bound hand and foot to judgement in Valinor by himself. Eonwe leads the Army of the Valar to do much the same thing to Morgoth at the end of the First Age. However, by the time Feanor renames Morgoth, he is much weaker than he was as Melkor. Much of his innate power has been spent infusing his Dark Spirit into the marring of Arda and twisting the Children of Eru and the beasts of Yavanna into his hideous slaves.

@TheDeluche 3 жыл бұрын

“Drinking, dancing, and doing it with Nessa, the Vala of good times” 😂 Pretty straight forward description!

@eacalvert 3 жыл бұрын

Love your vids. They're well researched and we'll presented. And you always show such kindness and grace. I see you too have been or are a servant of the Lady of Sorrow, just like Gandalf

@bradwilliams426 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for another wonderful video!

@joeschmo8755 4 жыл бұрын

Not related to the video but, I’m glad to see this channel growing. Shows there is still a lot of people interested in Tolkien. It also gives this channel a lot of exposure. This channel is amazing and it’s awesome to see it grow.

@connorross4571 4 жыл бұрын

Last time I was this early, the War of Wrath was taking place.

@christophergorrin5647 4 жыл бұрын

you rock man i e loved Tolkien since i was 12 stil u jave taught me so much.keep it up fam

@MrDuck797 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Yoystan. I love the Maiar. My favorite personally is Ëonwë

@paulmayson3129 4 жыл бұрын

Personally I prefer Fiönwë

@user-rs7xf5tm9s 3 жыл бұрын

My top is: 1- Melian 2- Olorin 3- Eonwe 4- Arien 5- Uinen

@jayb-wickorsnow5956 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks again man, these vids have enhanced my legendarium knowledge greatly!!

@julianneyvonne560 4 жыл бұрын

Oh yes ! 🔥🧙 Another awesome upload. Thank you mellon! ✨ 🖤

@palantir135 4 жыл бұрын

Maybe Tulkas took part in the fighting. I find the Balrogs fascinating. They are beautiful in their raw power but terrible. Olorin is probably the most loved Maiar because he’s the best known Maiar and of his role in the Battles against Sauron.

@shadowcloudspher5149 4 жыл бұрын

Yoystan can wait to see you in a interview with History Of Middle Earth. I love your channel and theirs. I give much support to their channel. Magnificent in depth video. 👏👏

@MiddleAgedGuy73 4 жыл бұрын

Really good video, so nice to start my day with one of your videos

@kazorbrooks3980 4 жыл бұрын

Loved the video. Your voice is perfect for this.

@nikosaivaliotis5873 4 жыл бұрын

Man, you are like a Tolkien Archive. Thank you!!

@michaelkopala3738 3 жыл бұрын

Somewhere I recall Tolkien stating that the Blue Wizards established the 'mystery religions' (Samothrace, Elysian,..etc) in the east. Wonder if Tolkien ever expanded upon that.

@penelopegreene 4 жыл бұрын

The Valar would have only joined the actual battle on an "as needed" basis. Probably their direct power was used only in tossing out Melkor/Morgoth through The Door of Night.

@shadowofchaos8932 4 жыл бұрын

As the Valar were close to elemental, I imagine the earth shakes, and winds blow effect of the Valar during battle.

@penelopegreene 4 жыл бұрын

@@shadowofchaos8932 Oh Yeah! Half the continent fell into the dang sea!!!

@shadowofchaos8932 4 жыл бұрын

The largest dragon ever being killed by the gods helped some, but yeah.

@penelopegreene 4 жыл бұрын

@@shadowofchaos8932 XD

@Dino23968 4 жыл бұрын

How do you say the “one ring to rule them all” poem in Quenya(or Sindarin)?

@Miuc969 2 жыл бұрын

thanks for the video and i really appreciate the closing statement of the video, we deffo should care more for people close to us :)

@jenniferwood144 4 жыл бұрын

Wonderful....I’m listening at 2am and love your video

@Zinistar13 4 жыл бұрын

There was Yoystan, the One, who on earth is called Story Teller.

@shadowbannedmgtowman9045 Жыл бұрын

You got wayz to go but so much content do a video at a time. I believe in you bro

@tulkis843 4 жыл бұрын

100% my favorite youtuber, thank you

@frenchsterr4708 3 жыл бұрын

Yoystan be having me watch these lore videos for hours! Lol so awesome

@joshdelacour4586 4 жыл бұрын

Monday service with Yoystan is one of the highlights of my week.

@johnjunkersfeld2964 4 жыл бұрын

You seem like a servant of Nieena. Calming voice, really passionate about Middle-Earth (except you rarely do it in song form), and just really calm in general.

@dolam 3 жыл бұрын

Great video! Thank you

@HC-gn2gb 4 жыл бұрын

Been here since 50k your videos are quick informative and are very well done👍

@MenoftheWest 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the longtime support, my friend! Cheers!

@jesuscoyt-munoz2753 4 жыл бұрын

Great video yoystan! To answer your question about the war of wrath. I think the maiar did partake in this battle and I think it would’ve been awesome if Gandalf when he was young fought along side elronds father during the battle of ancalagon with thorondor and the eagles! And I think you should make the epic character history video of luthiens mother she seems like a cool character.

@jeffreyalanday7432 2 жыл бұрын

A beautiful tale. Thank you!

@KTChamberlain 4 жыл бұрын

I've often said where the Valar are like Gold, the Maiar are like Silver.

@Dante-vf4sd 3 жыл бұрын

Eru like Diamond, elves bronze, men copper, dwarves nickle, hobbits plastic?

@davidirizarry6216 3 жыл бұрын

@@Dante-vf4sd lol..lol.

@Adargi 4 жыл бұрын

Very nice video as of always.

@kilbrenstrayer6308 4 жыл бұрын

yes!!! i couldnt wait for this one to come out!

@jorenaltura524 4 жыл бұрын

There is actually on passage in The Silmarillion that would suggest the Valar did not directly participate in the War of Wrath: “And it is said indeed that, even as the Valar made war upon Melkor for the sake of the Quendi, so now for that time they forbore for the sake of the Hildor, the Aftercomers, the younger Children of Ilúvatar. For so grievous had been the hurts of Middle-earth in the war upon Utumno that the Valar feared lest even worse should now befall; whereas the Hildor should be mortal, and weaker than the Quendi to withstand fear and tumult.” (Of the Sun and Moon and the Hiding of Valinor). Here, their reasons for not coming themselves was the result of what had happened during their first wars with Morgoth. In the prior wars, mountains were literally flattened and entire land masses were reshaped. The Valar knew that Men wouldn’t be able to withstand such battle, given they were mortal and weaker as compared to the Elves. They knew very well that further intervention would be a lot worse. Think of it as, they didn’t want Men to become collateral damage because that alone would go against the Will of Eru. Essentially, the Valar weren’t indifferent by not intervening directly during and prior to the War of Wrath. They did help, but in a way that wouldn’t destroy everything and one that gives Elves and Men the power to set their own course.

@wellis3891 4 жыл бұрын

Love me a little bit of lore

@debbiesmith3001 4 жыл бұрын

Great topic!

@jordanelza8806 8 ай бұрын

Very well done. This video was very informative. Thank you. The Maiar (like all members of the Ainur) can never truly die, as they are like a mixture of angels and gods.

@jarodspade1 4 жыл бұрын

This is Brilliant. Thanks

@rogue3500 4 жыл бұрын

Love your stories 😍

@Sporking 4 жыл бұрын

I do a Song of Ice and Fire videos and you guys truly inspire me to up my game!

@geviesanta3631 4 жыл бұрын

I've been wanting to seeing this vid for a while. Thank you for making it Yoystan, I hope you're doing alright out there.

@azipoor3468 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome and perfect video......by the way I think Tulkas needs his own epic character video(especially when he wrestled many ones like Melkor and Makar)

@maxkoprivica368 4 жыл бұрын

Yosten, do you play Dnd? You might really enjoy the LOTR 5e rules, that you can add. I recently played as a Taurtharim Warrior from South Harad (I think that is how you spell Taurthairm), and it was really fun. As always, thanks for the great vid, keeps me learning on Middle Earth, and gives me something to look forward to in these dark times.

@davidweaver6127 4 жыл бұрын

In my opinion I think the valar only participated in the war of wrath when it came to dealing with Melkor himself, much like great generals of history send their troops into battle and have a much more behind the scenes role. Also can I just say absolutely love your channel I hadn't read any of Tolkiens work in many years but coming across this has renewed a sense of wonder in me

@adarshkumar1977 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Men Of The West. I recently had discovered your youtube channel and totally become a fan of yours. I always loved tales written by Tolkien and I am really suprised that you(and also some other youtubers) have dedicated yourself in knowing these tales. I just want to say....I really love the work you are doing.❤️ Also....I really had this one question in my mind. Why didn't the Valar directly interfered with the events going on Middle-Earth? They had sent the five wizards but why not interfere directly? They are like.."Gods". And....I just don't understand. I hope you can help me with that.

@robertoleary5470 4 жыл бұрын

They did like in the first age or something but they sunk a ton of land so they decided not to do it anymore

@RuudDevil 4 жыл бұрын

Loved this video. I think Osse might be my new favourite maiar now. Also MotW have you ever heard of BFME2? :P

@ibrahimsabe991 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the great video 😊

@chris-qe4yc 4 жыл бұрын

yes a video about Maiar :) didn't know any of them beyond the wizards !

@littlepotatomaneatstomatoe7454 4 жыл бұрын

Before I watched your videos I knew little, but now I know everything, thank you

@mariojesus1618 3 жыл бұрын

Amazing storytelling and illustration..

@jadav1987 4 жыл бұрын

Another great video thanks...particularly now. Its a pleasure to have someone who is so knowledgeable and passionate about the mythology go through some of my favourite stories. In answer to your question about the Valar in the War of Wrath - I dont think they were present. In the battle of the powers they personally overthrew Melkor and this is explicit in the text. But Tolkien is very clear that he 'spent his spirit' and dispersed his power throughout the Earth as Morgoth, becoming trapped in his form and capable of sustaining injuries. He no longer had the spirit to challenge the Valar, which is why Manwe sent his herald, rather than going himself. Or that's my interpretation anyway...

@steveg0365 2 жыл бұрын

#Yoystan, I sincerely appreciate & revere the effort & knowledge that you extrude... It's absolutely fabulous! The only kaveat that I might add is that there are (simply)...so many different names...for so many of the characters, that (at times) it can make my head "spin" (albeit, is certainly not your fault... That is the way it was written)... But it can be confusing However, that being said...I really find no other problems... The information & pure thought & effort is astounding! Thank you for glimmering wonderful reminders of Tolkien into my life! Namasté my friend Always yours, Steve aka Allderonn

@lukeabbott2155 4 жыл бұрын

I would love to see your video on Melian. I have always wondered how her age and power would give her such an interesting perspective of the first age.

@segundajuganda 4 жыл бұрын

Wow the moon & sun story is trully beautiful. Didnt remember it, thanks!

@ardasfellowship27 4 жыл бұрын

I have been following this channel for a while now and it inspires me to learn more about tolkiens world every time I watch a video. So much, in fact, that i have made my own youtube channel to make videos like these where i just talk about different topics in tolkiens works. I already have my first video up: the history of the shire. thought that would be a good place to start. Thank you for inspiring me!

@AnabolicPopcorn 4 жыл бұрын

I think the Valar gave the servants a big buff that increased their attack power and critical strike damage during the war of wrath

@jetoner1 4 жыл бұрын

Very informative as I loved the Valar and Maiar, thus this was a great refresher. I enjoy the tail of Melian the most as she bore Luthien daughter of King Thingol and of course Gandalf and even more so. :)

@kennywagner4025 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks again Yoystan, always love stories of the Maiar. And I love the fact that Aragon is related to one. Plus, I never pass up any information on the trees of the Valar.