My sleep has been agonising for a year, I honestly thought that was it for me at 46yrs old. Day two on oestrogel (x2 pumps in the morning) and utrogestan (x1 tablet at night) and last night I slept 7 hours straight through! I am gobsmacked this morning, but so relieved I could cry, I already feel like a different woman and am looking forward to my day. Unbelievable! Xxx

Started taking body identical HRT one month ago , 11 years post menopausal @ 62 . My sleep improved immediately, after around 7 years of being sleep deprived. Thank you so much for all the advice & info Liz , which has undoubtedly improved all areas of my well-being 🙏🏻🌼

I am 65 years young and have not slept properly for around 10years. I thought I must be through the menopause as I don’t have hot flushes but this is making me rethink this and I will now research this as I am desperate for sleep as it affects my mood, skin, hair etc. Thank you for this x

You make so much sense regarding the HRT since I have started the patches it has made such a difference to my skin - low mood - sleep deprivation- weight - I have a lot more energy and motivation XX 😘

Haven’t slept through the night for years

Thank you so much for this. I am almost 50 and have terrible sleep, night after night. Watching your podcast I have finally approached the Dr and I’ve now been prescribed estragel. Thank you. I’m really hoping it will make a difference.

Thank you Liz, I have finally plucked cup the courage to go speak to someone at Dr Newton’s clinic, I am on the waiting list, it’s because of watching you for along time talking about menopause. Thank you for all you do to help women ❤️

I had no chance as i flushed day and night every 20 mins. 9 yrs! Went on this. First night I slept. It has really helped me. Thank you for the info on oestrogel and the dodgy estrodose!

I could not believe it when I picked up my prescription today and they gave me the one you talk about. Thanks to your talk I was armed and ready. I very politely insisted on the original one, not the new version. Which by the way was in different packaging. The pharmacist said it was from Europe and was the same, but I explained that it was not. Thank you for all the advise, my worry is I only got one month supply so maybe the one I want will go out of stock !

WOW!! I've just found you, and I've learned so much. I started with the change 14 years ago, and the first thing that went was my sound sleep, which I'd never had any issues with. Then came the fatigue and massive weight gain. I never had hot flashes, though. My sleep is still fragmented and this is killing me. I've taken a variety of types of HRT over the years, all with varying degrees of success, and even now, I don't feel my dosages are optimized. I currently take Utrogestan 200 mgs, topical testosterone (I think 4mg), and Oestrogel (1 pump). After watching this video, I am definitely going to up it to see if it helps.

I'm so grateful for your channel. I've been diagnosed with POI. Everything has been a mess & my sleep has been non existent. My endocrinologist has prescribed me both Prometrium & Estrogel. My testosterone levels were also significantly low. Many thanks for all your content 🙂

Thank you for this! I just started HRT a month ago and so far my sleep is slowly improving. I've had pretty much every perimeno symptom in the book at various times over the last 4 years but like you, sleep was what convinced me to give HRT another look and I found out the information we were given for so many years was flawed. I hadn't realized that taking it at night could help with sleeping; I thought only the progesterone was for that but I've been taking both at night because its easiest for me to use the gel at that time - but I'm so glad to know I've been doing the right thing without knowing it! I didn't get much info from my doctor about how and when to take it, just the dose pretty much. So once again thanks for this info! I'm so so sick of women's medicine being so unimportant to the medical and scientific community and completely shocked that the label switching you mentioned is even allowed! I'm in Canada and the bottle I have has a clear label. Once again, thanks for the tips and sorry for the novel lol Update: The sleep improvement slowly declined over 3 months until HRT was totally useless for that. I wanted to increase my dose from 2 pumps but my doctor wouldn't allow it because he is clueless about HRT. So back to the gyno I went. A different gyno this time. She didn't believe that I was menopausal at 46 so she made me quit HRT altogether to see what would happen (either that or have a cervical biopsy) and then have blood tests. A month later, after having constant hot flashes all day and all night, my tests confirmed I was telling the truth (imagine that!?). Now she has me on the lowest dose patch which is also basically useless for my sleep and I'm still having hot flashes with it albeit not as many. She wants me to have an ultrasound to confirm my uterine lining is actually thinning (it doesn't take a rocket scientist!!!!) before we look at increasing my dosage. That is still a month away. Meanwhile I average 5 hours of sleep a night and I can barely function at work or at home. I feel unsafe driving and I'm in a terrible mood every day as well. Nothing could have prepared me for the level of disruption and literal suffering peri-menopause has caused me. I'm not even 'officially' menopausal yet but it's been six months and counting since my last period so methinks this is it.

Wow, I have just come across this video which explains so much! I’ve been given Oestrogel by my GP - I’ve been sleeping appallingly for a while, after my sleep had started to improve, and it turns out that the current batch I’ve got are Oestrodose!! And this is two years after Liz’s video - what’s going on?!! Thank you, Liz, for all you do. SO helpful and informative. I’ve been following you an Instagram for a while - so glad I found this.

On my husband’s KZfaq account here. Amazingly helpful information - I’ve been using patches and just switching to gel as my sleep is still terrible, even on 175mcg patches. The information on using the gel before bed, rather than in the morning, is very useful - I’ll be following that advice, thank you for sharing!

Thank you for your assistance, you have so helped me, can’t thank you enough Liz xxxx

I must be one of the unusual ones as this keeps me up all night with anxiety! I switch on rather than off. It confuses me that it can help sleep when the progesterone is identified as the calming one and this one as energy etc. Anyhow, delighted it does seem to help sleep for many of you as it’s so important!

Having sweet..sweet sleep back was just such an amazing surprise when my brilliant GP suggested HRT for my cognitive issues. It worked straight way !

I have just found your channel. I had a hysterectomy due to adenomysis 11 years ago and a bilateral salpingo oophorectomy 3 years ago due to benign cystic tumours. I was prescribed tibilone which has never helped and was reaching the end of my rope with my symptoms. Fast forward to this week my gp couldnt understand why i was on tibilone as its very old fashioned and has put me on utrostan and oestrogel. To say i am excited to finally maybe just have a life again is an understatement. My doctors visit was the result of not having slept in 48 hours! Alot of gps just dont do the research and ignore patients needs and its incredibally sad to see and hear how many woman are suffering as a result. Thank you for your channel

I started yesterday and yes i slept prety good for long time, very fast action! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

Hi Liz just to let u no I have now been Prescribed HRT patches just been on them for 5 days now ... I will let you no how I get on with them . Thank you very much for all your information has been really helpful ...🥵🥵😴😴😴❤️🥰❤️xx

Thank you Liz! Your programs have helped so much!!! Invaluable!!! x

I'm three days in ...the gel and a progesterone pill . I've been a endometriosis sufferer so I'm a little nervous . Fingers crossed as I've been really struggling with horrendous menopausal symptoms. Thank you for your posting ...really supportive and helpful 🙂🙂

I’ve slept like a baby since Xmas due to my HRT. Thanks Liz and Dr Louise 💕💕💕👋👋👋

I didn’t know about the false labelling issue. Thank you.

Very informative Liz...👍 thank you

Thank you, recently my GP changed my tablet HRT to gel and after listening to your cast may try mornings & evenings and see if it also helps my sleep pattern.

How bizzare - I’ve waited 5 months to see a specialist endocrinologist in Hobart Tasmania where I live and finally got estrogel. I’ve rubbed my two pumps in and I feel trepidation about what’s going to happen to me 🙈🙈 your video is a great comfort. Thank you 🙏🏻 let’s see how I go xxx

Hi Liz, can't thank you enough for all the information and podcasts about hrt and also introducing me to Dr Louis Newson. Was on hrt tablet kliovance for 22 years and had to urge my doctor to look at alternatives. Took 2 different doctors before being prescribed what I asked for which is oestrogel and the utagestran tablet. Using 3 pumps but sleep still not great so may vary this but thanks again for everything xx Mary

Thank you for sharing your own experience with us x

I'm gutted - 3 months in using oestrogel and utrogestan and not only has there been no improvement but my sleep is worse than ever- on average 3 hours per night. I'm on 4 pumps of gel and I believe this is the max dose licensed by NHS 😢. Tried combined patches before the gel but they also didn't work- kept falling off. I am losing hope that I will ever feel better

Thank you so much for all the information you are giving in this video. I am starting estradiol tonight. Hopefully all good!

Thanks Liz for sharing your tip of applying on outer thighs and hips. I've started taking testosterone and been flummoxed as to where to rub so as not to clash with gel! Many thanks Lynn

This is incredible 👏 Yestarday for the first time I apply the patch estradot 50 micrograms. And the results was immediate I could sleep all night straight. I was a waking 3,4 times a night before. Hot flashes was horrible, pain joints, very strong headaches.last night I slept all night. I am very happy 😊

I have just got my gel today! Thank for the video as I just did not know what to do . So thank you . I feel like I’m going on unknown journey .

This is so helpful Liz.

That's really helpful 😊 thank you for the great advice! X

thank you so much xx I am going to start taking it at night.

Great advice about label x

I was with problems with my period. Totally irregular last year abd this year. Terrible mood. Angry, crying, nervous like TPM but everyday. Yesterday I put my 1 pump of this. And in the night I got my period! Incredibile

I find it gives me energy so I apply daytime. I have been sleeping so much better. My breasts became very painful on day 2, I had no pain whilst on the patches. One week into the gel and my breasts were agonising so I started applying to my thighs instead and the pain is easing. The shoulder is way too near the breasts and it was a little concerning.

I was so scared to take HRT because of the increased risk of breast and ovarian cancer and was determined to get through menopause without synthetic hormones. Now into my 2nd year of averaging 5-6 hot flushes a night which wake me from my sleep in a sweat, I've decided the lack of sleep is probably far more dangerous than the HRT side effects and went and saw my GP. I have been prescribed 1 pump of estrogel per day along with 1 progesterone pill. I've been on them for 3 weeks now and still getting 4-5 hot flushes a night. I'm hoping it kicks in soon!

I would like to share this with you, I started to take omega 3, 6, 7 and 9, and 1 tablespoon of flaxseed oil every night. It changed my life, now I sleep the hole night, after years of insomnia 💖

This video is so so helpful as im on the same hrt thank you so much 🌻 x

Thanks to your videos I have been prescribed this gel this week after a year of symptoms I'm keeping everything crossed xx

Brilliant info. Thank you. X

So very helpful, thank you

Thank you so much gosh I’ve been on elleste solo for years 1mg and only just got given the gel when I went in for a discussion can’t wait to experience the difference. Thinking of taking red clover with it

Wonderful Liz, thank you. I shall pass this on to my friend who has sleep deprivation. She was told by GP that it's down to her lymphedema but may need to consider this

Been using one pump a day of this gel and after 3 days of using it my sleep has been so much better, no more lying awake for hours and no more waking up early hours ( only for a wee ) xx

Thank you so much fabulous video , I am on the same 3 days and sleeping amazing but getting up at 4am for loo, but will try your recommendation to apply evenings because it’s only sleep issues I suffer ❤️

Like you Liz, my main symptom is lack of sleep, since starting HRT last June my sleep has much improved, I use 3 pumps of gel spread throughout the day.... maybe I should use all 3 together at night, xx

Here I go just got my prescription for oestrogel pump and utrogestan capsules, after a few trials with different hrt keeping everything crossed this works 🤞🤞🤞🤞

V interesting thank you

Thank you!!

I use that gel and I sleep much better. It’s a life saver.

I have that same gel (but more than one pumps-worth gives me heartburn) but I find it is the additional Utrogestan capsule (progesterone) that makes me immediately sleepy and gives me good night sleep

Thank you 🙏🏼

Thank you for advice on Estrodose and gel difference,and also more pumps of 4 can be rubbed into hips an thighs,it was hard to distribute it on the inner thighs!

Liz Earle...you look just so healthy and beautiful

I find I can nap standing up after work but once I’m in bed I’ll go all night without sleep. I also have Ulcerative Colitis which causes chronic fatigue. Chronic fatigue has been an ongoing problem ever since I was diagnosed seventeen years ago. Sometimes I just grab a day time nap as I know night sleep is a challenge. Otherwise I can’t cope.

I wish I could try this sounds great but I have a lot of cancers, including breast in my family so I believe I shouldn’t use it.

I was prescribed it and Utrogestan for migraines and after only 5 days I had a monster period like never before. Total flooding so bad I changed 8 night time pads and had to use a bath towel in the end. Still flooding as I type and unable to leave the house .

Hi very interesting that you use the estrogen at night. I have been using it in the morning, and utrogestan at night. I still get up around 3am or 4am for a wee, and can't get back to sleep afterwards,, previous to hrt I was up 3 or 4 times a night! I will try using the sandrena gel at night to see if it will help break the 3 or 4am waking. Thank you

I was prescribed this a year ago and have seen two doctors and no one mentioned how many pumps to do so I assumed it was one! No wonder I still get hot sometimes and sleep like crap 😡

I have suffered bad with hot flushes they get that bad that I'm drenched in sweat 😓 this has been happening for the past 4 years . My doctor has finally given me the gel and a capsule to take at night iv started the gel and capsules today so I really hope I'll finally get some relief and start feeling more better and not so they constantly

Absolutely so incredibly timely your videos for me, as am 51 years old and in the thick of it. I just have a question would you take Utrogestan and the Oestrogel? Or would it be one or the other? Much love from Spain 🤗 And again thank you so much for your videos, there isn't one that isn't great.

Gosh I didn't think of taking it at night time 🤦‍♀️ I've been on Estrogel for 3yrs now, however my sleep is still not the best, I also take testosterone for mood and energy so I could apply that in the morning and gel in the evening....thankyou so much Liz, I've just started following you and I'm loving your lives 🙂 x

Can’t find the podcast you mention here where you discuss when to use the hormones (with dr Lewis and dr Newson ) - can anyone tell me the date?

I’ve heard some ladies saying they do their estrogen in the morning because it’s energizing. They say it’s the progesterone they take that helps you sleep. Confusing 😂

I use that but in the morning maybe i should use it a night as im not good sleeper

Thankyou for this - just wondering which episode is the discussion with Dr Newson about when to take the oestrogel that you mention in this episode ?

Thank you Liz, helpful as ever. I literally walked to the chemist only yesterday to swap oestrodose for oestrogel because I read on Dr Newson’s website that the former is not always manufactured under the strict control of Besin & that other suppliers also distribute this gel to chemists. You mentioned you use several pumps a day, can I ask how many micrograms does your gel contain? X

Started taking oestrogel 2 months with 2 pumps. I've had a couple of nights of unbroken sleep. This has not happened for years!

It's funny if I use the gel late it keeps me awake so I have to put it on early morning...we are all so different x

Hi Liz, just to say thankyou again (will always be thanking you forever!) I'm on the oestrogel too and use 2pumps, so interesting you can change to nights! I do get slightly tender breasts so a bit dubious about increasing....like you I got immediate good results but beginning to wake early some mornings, started on the magnesium you recommend which is great so will have a 'play' and see how i get on. Lots of love, Christina xxx

Actually, Sleep is essential for peace of mind and health or body. We need eight hours to sleep.

Thank you Liz, can you talk about the ustrogestan you take, I take it too but it makes me very sleepy and groggy the next day, love to know your thoughts and what time you take it.

Is there any over the counter product that works? Even slightly? Dr's in the US (at least mine) still think hrt causes breast cancer and won't order it. I had a TAH & O. And was just told to stop taking at 61 because it will cause breast ca. I'm shriveling up here. Hot flashes. Anxiety. Sleepless. Sad and depressed.

Also I had one oestrodose bottle covered with oestrogel label however chemist said that was all they could get hold of- its awful though how they try to deceive the patient by covering with a different label if it was the same product why would they try to hide it 🤔

I have been on utrogestan 100 and estrogel pump for 3 and a half months now,,started off with 2 pumps then 2 weeks ago was told by HRT nurse to go to 3 pumps has kept seeing the 3 to 30 am every night 🥲 I go 4 hours sleep then wake up so still not going full night,,just seeing how it goes a couple more weeks,then might have to go up to 4 pumps,,thanks LIz video was so interesting xx

I have not slept well in at least 5 months now :( I am seeing the doc tomorrow. I am curious, your doctor did not also prescribe progesterone to balance the estrogen?

Hi , thanks this has been very informative, i was prescribed oestrogel but pharmacy like you said have stuck sticker over the oestrodose label !!! how do i go about getting this rectified??

Thank you Liz for this info!🙏I am a bit confused, I have been given Estrolgel and Utrogestan (yet to start taking them 🙈) as I am not sure what day in my cycle I should start taking and stopping the Utrogestan softgels as the info out there is so so differing? Also, I thought Utrogestan helps with sleep as it has a mild sedative effect, so could the Estrogel be applied in the AM and the Utrogestan taken in the PM? Sorry, hope this makes sense! Thank you

can anyone send me the link to watch the video to balance mood swings taking estrogel also in the morning she speaks about? information is power thanks LIZ so much , wish you the best in life, blessings

You can't take oestrogel on its own indefinitely you have to replace the progesterone aswell. I'm surprised that wasn't mentioned

Have literally just applied my first dollop of sandrena gel and taken my progesterone tablet 🤞 let’s see what happens x

Hi I’m so happy for all information is about HRT I had three courses of antibiotics and I was fighting candida probably for a long time I will be scared to get again but I’m in age when I will benefit from HRT but I hear can contribute to candida fungus please can you make a video about this topic to HRT can cause candida how to protect ourselves if we are on HRT and one more thing anything about fungal infections 🙏🙏🙏♥️😘

Can I ask if a change in HRT form (tabs to gel), can be why I now have really bad joint pains?

Thankyou for this I’ve just been told to use 6pumps of the gel too and to take 2 utrogestan tablets without a break if you don’t mind me asking but do you take the tablets aswell? Thanks.

I cant get in the bed to sleep. I will stand doing something and pass out in the middle of it. Last night with drink bottle , it assed out before drinking , woke up in wet bed. I get mad at myself coz it’s 5am when this cursed feeling stops and lets me get into bed with no hang ups . I’m also not very conscious when this is all happening. As a result, my legs are swelling with water fluid hormones all over the place and I’ve got no idea how to get it all better. I know that the sleep would cure so much of my health issues and yet it’s one of the issues is to let go and hop in my bed and be allowed. Does anyone else have this problem?

thank you for talking about this. I am so so confused with my hormones.... even though i am followed by 2 doctors. I thought progesterone was the one to do at night to sleep well and that estrogen was more for energy ?? Do you take also progesterone as you are using Estrogel ? My doc told me and many many docs i have watched say it is essential to protect the uterus.

Great channel Liz. What if endometriosis is activated by oestrogel. Any advice for a sleep focused solution?

Do we need to have extra progesterone too? or just oestrogen??

Started this gel 10 days age. Bottle has a paper label. As this is a year after this video how can I tell if real?

So you can't buy this from the pharmacy? you have to get it from your Dr on prescription?

Omg this is the same for me I’m just not sleeping at all and my doctors just won’t help me 😢

Hi. I'd like to know how long it takes for eostrogel to work. I was evoral conti patches which started to reduce my hot flashes after 2 weeks and stopped them after about 4 weeks. Then after nearly 3 months the flashes returned worse than ever before. I changed to eostrogel ( 2 pumps) and a progesterone pill 2 weeks ago but this has made no difference so far. I had anxiety and insomnia before any of the hrt but with the overheating and sweats coming every hour from evening til morning any bit of sleep I get, I'm woken out of. Haven't had more than an hour of sleep at a time for so long and usually 3 hours in total is the maximum I get in 24 hours. When I wake I get extreme anxiety and it takes such a long time to get back. I'm in constant torment with the anxiety, depression and lack of sleep. Antidepressants and antipsychotics have not helped, they only made me feel much worse. I'm at my wits end. I attempted to end it all twice this year. I feel like I can't go on like this much longer. I've been in torment for over 8 months

Hi Liz - great topic. Where can we find the podcasts with Dr Lewis and Dr Newson on when best to use the gel please? x

thank you do much , but 1 question: do you rub in or only glide on the skin ? How did you use it ? Please and thank you for an answer 😊❤🤗

I have been suffering from sleep issue, no other symptoms. Just wondering please do you take estrogel combined with progesterone? Thanks