How many illiterate, superficial and not deeply thinking people are in the West, it amazes me. Do you believe your media, there is only one lie around. There could only be two versions with Camilla: 1. A laboratory error is accidental or special in order to extend sanctions against the Russian national team at the next Olympics. Sanctions against the Russian national team ended at this Olympics. I inform you that all the samples of Camilla over the past 2 years were all negative, except for the allegedly detected microdose for 1.5 months taken at the Russian Championship. Then there was the European Championship 0.5 months before the Olympics, where she brilliantly won and also with a negative breakdown. I also inform you that the sample for 0.5 months from the European Championship was presented earlier than for the sample made for 1.5 months and was presented right after the performance in team competitions, does it seem suspicious to you. 2. A microdose about alleged doping could accidentally get into Camilla's body, her grandfather uses such a drug for the heart and he lives with her in the same house. And also someone could have spied on food or drinks among the entourage of coaches, functionaries, other figure skaters, etc. After all, this drug, according to some scientists, cannot improve sports performance. All Russian athletes, coaches and functionaries around sports know perfectly well that Russia is under sanctions and their athletes are checked twice as much and more thoroughly than athletes from other countries. No normal and adequate athlete, coach or doctor of the Russian national team will not use doping under the fear that the Russian national team will be punished with sanctions for several more Olympics in the future. Personally, I am more inclined that this is a US special operation to discredit Russia. They forced the Swedish laboratory to give false test results for Camilla.

@@Socrushitel1960 этим тупым сложно что-то объяснить, теперь они льют лицемерные крокодиловы слёзы, как же "жестоко" поступила Этери по отношению к Камилле. Тут еще один фактор, кроме вышеназванных тобой. Сейчас пойдет с их стороны сильный накат на Этери, потому что в женском катании они ничего не могут противопоставить её тренерской деятельности и её подопечным. Кстати они поздно предоставили данные по пробе ещё и по той причине, что если бы они это озвучили даже за 1 час до начала Олимпиады, то мы заменили бы Камилу, даже той же Елизаветой Тухтамышевой, или Майей да вообще там многие могли бы побороться за 2-3 место. Но все призовые места у россиянок-это ножом по яйцам МОКу и пендосам

@@user-jd8ky3qb1y на Этери уже идет накат по полной программе. Зная их я не удивлюсь, если они сейчас сочинят какие-нибудь персональные санкции и перестанут её пускать на соревнования за границей. Конечно это будет удар по её ученицам. Но по-другому эти твари заграничные точно не выиграют, могут попробовать эту подлость. Им же никакие доказательства не нужны, когда дело касается России. На любую гадость готовы.

Read up on the coach.

And the gold medalist felt empty. What a shitshow. Olympics flower ceremony is supposed to be joyous and not funeral-like. The only one who looks geniunely happy is Kaori and I am absolutely happy for her.

They shouldnt have let Kamila skate. It did more harm to her smh

Yes it seems like some toxic behaviour at that skating school and the coaches

Seems the "irreparable harm" was greater by letting her compete. The irony.

Shame USA amd IOC!!! 🐀🐀

The fault does not lie with the USA or the IOC. It lies with the people who are charged with her well being. She should not have been allowed to skate. She had a positive test. It does not matter if she knew she had these drugs in her system or not. She still had an unfair advantage. Shame on her coaches, trainers, and the ROC. They did not care about her. They only cared about the medals.

@@rhondaallen6589 Her coach should probably be banned. The IOC could do something, but they haven't.

The only way that's goin g to happen is if she leaves Eteri Tutberize.

@@Ktenten479 IOC covered up the dopping test in favor of Russia,, Russia are cheater and the proof is thier name ROC instead of Russia,,, Russia should be banned in Olympic because of massive taking illegal substance to thier athletes with the consent of thier coaches and officials, putin is psychopat

You know I don’t easily buy hohoo stuff about the unconscious because I’m a pretty rational person and a neuropsychiatrist, but I do think this is a possibility. There’s a point in the kiss and cry after the scores are announced and she’s been crying that she’s seem to be smiling and laughing and she says “at least now they can have a medal ceremony” (because there wouldn’t be one if she had ended up in the top three). Her coach immediately continue scolding her that that is not the right attitude for an athlete and to be a fighter type of thing. It just was a revealing moment and broke my heart that the girl was trying to find a moment of relief and find some sort of silver lining to the situation and have consideration for the other skaters even for a moment and as she was sad, but that wasn’t allowed. I do feel like it’s a possibility that unconsciously she withdrew herself. Reminded me a bit of Tonya Harding at her Olympics but even more so.

I don't hate her I blame her team they don't care about her but she should not have been able to compete

AGREE!!!! They wold have torn her to SHREDS.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the coach told her that losing would be the better option.

@@TarotPolitics Nope. Absolutely no. Etery said her the opposite.

She didn’t do anything. Her failed test was before Christmas. Literally everyone knew. She’s the best skater in the world and western media bullied a 15 year old girl out of the podium

@@NNHgohabsgo stop with this. Banned substances are banned at *any* point. In or out of the competition. Everybody knows this in sport, but rabid online commenters. It doesn’t matter whether she’s the best skater or the worst skater. Somebody who has been doped is the issue. She’s not even denying that. Plus, what are you complaining about? They wanted her to skate despite the positive result, which for anybody else would’ve let them to be disqualified, she skated, and she lost. Now apparently it’s western media’s fault. Why didn’t they not dope her in the first place? Who the hell is Western media anyway? It’s not like there’s some sort of consensus. Somebody doping at the Olympics is big news everywhere. Not just in whatever you mean by Western media I guess you mean US.. some of you guys are so irrational it hurts my brain and my heart. Indeed she was one of my favorite skaters so this is very difficult to see and how awful she was treated by her coaches after her skate, awful. My heart goes out to all of those girls

@@1chienandalou you no where give her this Substanz myby in her eating or water ? Way have trusova nothing or sherbekova nothing and she is clean bevor dezember and After dezember only us team wont Disqualifikation kamila nobody else

There is politics within the Russian skating team. They clearly wanted scherbakova to win and not kamila

@@1chienandalou and it doesn’t hurt your brain that American commentators, former figure skaters Tara Lipinski and Johnny Weir, rejoiced live on Valieva’s falls during the free program and thanked God? And what then does the New York Post post a photo of the fallen Valieva and post a huge headline "GLORY TO GOD" above this photo, doesn't hurt you either? Your brain is highly selective

Are you sure, that the trainers are involved. Prove first, blame later. Now you are already poisoning the coaches. You have already joined those who persecuted Camila. Tired of your unsubstantiated "Highly likely"

This is the sole responsibility of Thomas Bach, the IOC and WADA. These Olympic officials raped a little girl. It's not her coach's fault. Sports officials of the IOC raped a little girl.

@@lidiaerikson1036 Eteri has a history of doping.

@@xalekcey raped?! you’re deranged! what an awful and disrespectful thing to say! disgusting towards both Kamila, and to survivors of rape, assault and abuse, as well as to sport, to logic and to decency. some you guys need help!

@@xalekcey not to mention you are an apologist for an abusive coach/system! who else doped her? they’re not even denying the sample is positive because it’s undeniable. are you suggesting she is responsible for this herself? of course the adults around a national and international champion and Olympic athlete need to be on top of everything that she ingests! especially any medication. they sure know how to police every bite of food and sip of water these girls take, you think they just accidentally let her take a banned substance? yeah they’re totally innocent when she turns out to be doped! 🙄 it is one thing to be in denial about what’s happened it’s another to be an apologist about abusive system/adults around a minor in this situation. shame on you!

I doubt she had a choice about continuing to compete. I feel so badly for her.

@@allieren I agree. I blame the adults who allowed this to happen and made her skate. And IOC who allowed her to skate. And of course, no 15 year old will just up and take heart medications. At that age you do what you're told. She was not protected. She was used. Not even recieved sympathy afterwards. On the world stage to boot. The look on her face showed torment. I pray for this young girl. I pray for her mental and emotional recovery.

Yeah I'm no figure skating expert, but it's pretty clear you need to be in the right frame of mind to excel on this level. You cannot be going through the motions. Or distracted. Let alone coming off the most nightmarish week of your entire life to that point.

Adam Ripon was an a** who also laid into her. What a jerk.

@@khubza8999 Exactly when was that? He defended what he saw, a skater abandoned by the very people who drugged her. A 15 year old alone, that is why he asked"Where are the adults? Are your words a reflection of homophobia on your part?

Well Rippon was the one who bashed kamila and said several times to her Cheater...cheater..cheater...what would you said to that??

Not Adam being the Spider-Man meme! But no really he and Tara spoke so harshly and publicly about Kamila when they should’ve been directing that energy towards the coaches.

Yeah☹️

So true and those of us old enough have seen it before where the crowd has booed at competitor off the ice and they pause the competition until the crowd was under control again

And Anna winning the Olympic Gold, standing on her own, alone, no one to celebrate with, no one congratulating her, her team mates breaking down, and as soon as she came off the ice, her coach asking her why she left out the quad lutz. She is only 17 years old.

@@ddjr6673 as soon as you do not get tired of lying so much? If only the diligence with which you lie could be directed to something useful. But no. Do you really like it when you stick your nose in your lies? Anna was not alone where you can be not alone. Athletes always rise to the top step of the podium personally, without a support team. Although the idea is good: Eteri should have been invited to the podium and presented with a gold medal. In addition, Anna did not have a quadruple lutz planned this time, so no one would have asked her such a question. Eteri did not meet her after the end of the program, because Kamila performed nearby, and Eteri escorted Kamila to the ice. Anna was met and congratulated by Daniil Gleikhengauz and it was clear how pleased he was with the performance. That's how it was. And everything you wrote is a lie.

@@user-go2gm3xu5t Honestly? Really? This is an interesting post? When she found out she had the Gold, she was literally *on her own*, the camera was on her... the film and pictures are there to see... the translations were there. Eteri should be invited on to the podium and given a Gold? The trainer/coach? If that is the case Tamara Moskavina should have been getting Gold medals all her life. Now there is a magnificent Russian coach. And I am one of those who believes Anna deserved her Gold. I think she was amazing. She seems a very kind, level-headed, intelligent young woman, who seems to never say a bad thing about anyone. When I saw her on her own, my heart went out to her.

@@ddjr6673 Anna found out that she had the gold when she was in the green room. There, athletes are never with the team. This stupid practice has been going on for years. I don’t know who came up with this, it seems strange to me too, but this has been done at all international competitions for 5 years, no less. The fans should have known about it, it's too obvious. And the figure skating bloggers who are now doing a black PR order against the Tutberidze coaching staff (such as Fran and Paola La) know this for sure. They know, but they pretend they don't know, and they gobble up this nonsense about Anna, abandoned by everyone, by everyone. This is not the only lie spread about Russian figure skating and Tutberidze. If she was so bad, everyone who left her would not have returned to her, and there would not have been a queue of people who wanted to learn from her. But such are the laws of black PR. If the coaches were awarded medals, I don’t remember exactly, but it seems that Tarasova would be the most titled. I've been rooting for Anna for probably 4 years now. But I think all three of our girls are fantastic and I was expecting some drama to happen at the Olympics. Well, because 3 skaters with cosmos-level levels, and there is only one gold medal. How not to be dramatic? It was inevitable. But then again, where does the coach? It so happened that there were several talents at once, what was she to do? Play in favor of someone alone? It is clear that this is not so. So, Eteri did everything right, and fate decreed as we all saw. One is happy, the other is sad. But this is a sport, it's always like that here. The main thing is that everything goes well in life.

It was criminal because she is a great talent.

@Al yes, but it’s easy to say this from a different culture looking from the outside. I’m not defending that she was allowed to skate. Just that May have been extremely difficult for someone in her situation, context, age to be able to resist in any meaningful way. In some sense perhaps unconsciously her free skate was a way of withdrawing herself. She wasn’t personally denying it, (which despite so many people trying to argue there’s enough evidence there is and they know it). I don’t think she should’ve been made to skate. She probably could’ve been amazing even without doping but at this point we’re not gonna know and my heart breaks that this young girls career is being affected with all this drama and trauma. I feel concerned about all of those girls to be honest.

I agree but she was also on drugs at the eu championship which will also create different mood swings on top of teenage hormones

@@stephanikomasara5793 на чемпионате Европы ОНА БЫЛА ЧИСТА, КАК И ЗА ВСЁ ВРЕМЯ СВОЕЙ КАРЬЕРЫ!!!

@@user-jr2wc4py9y они врут как дышат, и говорить им об этом бесполезно, у них цель - грязью полить, а не до правды добраться

The real problem is that all the skaters were drugged and the adults who gave them the drugs betrayed Kamilla. Tney abandoned her.

They let her down in the first place and also in how they reacted to the situation and in how they keep reacting to the situation. My heart goes out to Kamila (and also the other girls who are in that system)

I don’t know how anyone can make this statement with any certainty. Do you know how these drugs actually get into someone’s system? Are they pills? Powder? Shots? Inhalers? Seriously. To state she didn’t know is potentially extremely naive. Remember it was 3 heart medications for a 15 year old world class athlete. Seriously? What 15 year competing at that level has a heart condition that requires 3 different meds…that’s pretty insane. I feel badly for her. She likely has no voice at all in her training. No family to support her. But this is also what she signed up for when she agreed to make this women her trainer.

@@richardolague4502 She lives in an Authoritarian Country and a completely different culture. Get a heart and a grip

I don't remember Lipinsky and Weir doing anything but expressing sadness for a 15 year old having to deal with this. They were right, we should not have seen her skate at all.

@@patriciacasey7290 Yes. They changed their tune after the performance. If you google their first comments, you’ll see what I’m saying. Thanks

@@ccie77 Lipinski is in a rare position to comment on this since she was in the olympics at 15. At 15 she is old enough to know better, but with the environment she is in likely had no say in the matter. She tested positive for a banned substance, she should not have been allowed to compete. The amounts were not trac3 amounts either so the "drinking out of grandpa's cup" is an obviously made up story.

@@patriciacasey7290 Wow. Her testing positive herself is news to me. Thanks so much for sharing. And by “she” I’m not sure if you’re referencing Lipinski or the young Russian Olympian. Either way, I hope a lesson is learned here. Coaches need to care for their athletes.

Ask Tira Lipinsky she was just fifteen years old, but, here lies the difference, she had a strong supporting team that was looking out for her, not a bunch of narcissistic losers who only think about themselves.

I don’t think we can compare her situation to anyone. There has literally never been somebody in this situation before - being that age AND being discovered to have been doped - that’s why it’s so unusual. I very much agree this was a very rough situation for her to be in and I feel so much for her (and for the other girls too)

@@christinemeleg4535 Whatever else they are, you can't call the Tutberidze team losers.

@@kennethhawley1063 Yes, you can! Winning is meaningless when winners have to cheat…

Poor thing, right.

Since he clearly wasn’t there for her when it counted.

Are you kidding?

Is that a female host in the pink? Dang. 🤭

@Al she has been at home since February 18

Television isn't free. Hell they don't show all of the paralympics

in your incubator everyone repeats the same lies and stupidity. I'm starting to think you're write off on each other

You mentioned how Shcherbakova and Trusova look like kids and not women. They are kids, though. Shcherbakova and Trusova are 17 year olds. They're essentially high school juniors.

Yes, they are kids Nick, but this is a women’s competition! The competition has changed because the young girls can do the quads while the women have difficulty. My point was they were very young emotionally for this type of competition. They probably belong in the juniors really.

@@cquinnth I do agree - I feel like the minimum age to compete at the world level should be raised. To what age I'm not sure, but in my opinion 15 years old, as is the case of a Kamila Valieva, is too young.

you are just a zombie from a parallel reality

Wow total textbook psychological projection! 🤣😂🤣Some braindead Putinbot talks about parallel reality! 🤣🤣😂😂🤣 Ooof it’s too funny!! Not just all this happened in front of our eyes, and I watched the end three times, but also where my Russian isn’t enough, my father is Russian and I asked him and 3 other people with native tongue Russian. Your empty insults will not get replies. Thanks for the laughter tho! 😘

Don't worry. Be happy

@@1chienandalou I wonder why you are replying to my comment not via reply to me so I am not getting a notification? Are you scared? Naturally, you are afraid. After all, you cannot answer my valid objections to your baseless accusations, so you answer secretly so that I do not notice. Very revealing. But everyone already sees my counterarguments, as well as your shameful flight. Farewell, troll))

It’s heartbreaking. She was absolutely one of my favorites already at 15 years old only. I hope she has strong family and friends to support her. This should never have happened and the adults and the system around her have failed her. I wish her to be able to continue her career as long as it makes her happy of course.

In Russia, ice skaters are separated from their family at a very young age. Unfortunately, her coaches and fellow Russian skaters are her ‘family’ and she will find no comfort there.

@@janetmckenzie146 And they also say that in Russia bears walk drunk on the streets and even with balalaika ...) Don 't write nonsense . We have more freedom than in the rest of the world . No one separates anyone , everyone lives in families .

She's probably the support for her family, another pressure!!! That coaching staff needs consequences!!! They just left their gold medal winner sitting there on a couch ALONE for a long while, poor girl!!!

@@starlabaucum5658 the gold medalist was sitting in her dressing room without a coaching staff, because a few years ago one of the organizers of the figure skating championships came up with the idea that the current leaders, including the final winner, sit and watch everything that happens from the dressing room. And yes, the coaching staff is not allowed there. It's a funny idea, but it caught on, and it's been happening for a few years now. If you are actually a fan of figure skating, and did not just come to copy-paste comments, then you must know about it

i am happy to hear that you are kind to her.

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@@user-ys4jj2hq8m maybe because during her entire sports career she passed dozens of these tests and none of them showed banned substances?

@@springillusion2042 She was not caught in other competitions, but was caught in the Olympics.It's clear that she used banned drugs.

@@jeuk_25 вы не справедливы и рассуждаете очень примитивно! Будьте умнее и добрее

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it's impossible. This is not a children's matinee, but the Olympics. No professional athlete would ever do that.

@@user-go2gm3xu5tPrzecież powiedziała po zakończeniu jazdy: "Przynajmniej teraz ceremonia się odbędzie".To jest Rosjanka. Oni dla ojczyzny zrobią wszystko.

@@kasiakasia557 these words of hers are an evil irony and reproach to T. Bahu. Many of us in her place would have reacted the same way, not because we would deliberately fail our performance (which professional athletes do not), but because it is a way to tell the IOC representative what we think of him. But I can see that he couldn't understand it, because even you didn't understand

The coach should be invested, that woman doesn’t care about the child only a medal.

I think the IOC acted appropriately. They gave Kamila the opportunity to do her skates since there was not enough time to do a full investigation and make a determination. I also don't fault them for postponing the awards ceremony until after final determination has been made. It would have not been fair to the other skaters if she would have gotten a metal when there is an investigation going on. Obviously this was way too much emotional stress to go through all of this all at once and I don't blame her for not skating her best because of it, but she was given the opportunity and that's all they could do. I do wish none of this would have happened or at least if she could have had time to deal with this separately and privately. I am hoping for a good comeback story with her.

@@leslie4320 ей дали возможность CAS, а не IOC. Томас Бах уже много раз доказывает, что он вершина лицемерия

I first would blame the parents

@@Carla-pq6gu wonder what?

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Information was sent to the media by the IOC, not by the coaches. And this is a violation of the law, they did not have the right to disclose the name of a minor in connection with a doping scandal.

You're right! I am so angry and annoyed for her. Knowing Tutberidze's girls in light of history. Valieva has virtually no second chance at the Olympics. New girls aged 15 - 17 are already coming from there. Tutberidze's method is based on the fact a girl has not grown into a woman it is easier to make rotating movements with a lower body weight. Few can still do four jumps after reaching the age of majority.

Отлично, увольте тренера Нейтона Чена, он соотечественник Этери, и он долго работал в России. Вам же просто сложно признать, что русская школа фигурного катания - лучшая в мире. Или нам стоит проверить Чена на допинг? Мм Он прыгает четверные и у него русский тренер, это подозрительно.

@@user-mr8yn6oh5f Men's figure skating is different as many adult men have done quads before due to anatomy differences.

@@ericyuan9718 Понятно " это другое" как всегда. Просто, чтобы вы знали, русские - двигают фигурное катание вперёд, а вместо того, что тянутся к этому же уровню, чтобы конкурировать, западные СМИ просто сгубили лучшую фигуристку мира, только потому что она русская. В России очень жёсткая конкуренция, именно от этого такой высокий результат. Те девочки, которые не смогли пробиться в сборную России, выступали на Олимпиаде за Польшу, Беларусь, Украину, Грузию и Австрию - делайте выводы.

@@user-mr8yn6oh5f Yes, of course, the Russians are pushing figure skating forward, by getting prepubescent girls to jump quads, something Eteri cannot teach adults to do successfully. If she could teach adults to do it wouldn't you think she'd be coaching adults as well. Longevity of an athlete is very profitable for the athlete as well as the coach. But of course, she knows her training methods don't work on anyone over the age of 18 (due to putting immense pressure on the skater's spine) and so she does the next best thing - chronically cycling younger girls to replace those that have reached adulthood. Other coaches simply care more for the longevity of their skaters more than Eteri does, and that's why you don't see the women of other countries jumping a bunch of quads. So yes, you can feel proud about the fact that Russia is advancing the sport, but at an unsustainable human cost. The only beneficiary is the Russian state propaganda machine. Do you really think western media "destroyed" Valieva because she's Russian? There will be another Russian to take her place for Gold. Russia will remain a figure skating powerhouse, regardless. And in the West, we don't "hate" Russia or Russians, contrary to what your state propaganda may tell you.

It is so upsetting. All the more so because now they’ve already switched the narrative that all of these adults are innocent and it’s “Western media” Who unfairly attacked and made this lovely 15-year-old perfect skater fail. They are literally making excuses for the people who abused these children and are gonna continue believing everything is fine. My heart hurts,

@@1chienandalou I hope the IOC is already investigating how information got into the media that violated the law and Camila's right. And I hope that our officials will have the courage to start a disciplinary investigation into the rudeness and cynicism of the hypocrite T. Bach. Although this hope is illusory, rather from the realm of fantasy.

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But that is exactly what the media did, treating her like the ultimate villain the world hase ever seen.

@@vesnaklanac4437 when the expression “thrown to the wolves”… to describe what was done to her: Those “wolves” was the media…and more specifically, the two obnoxious blabber mouths opining throughout the figure skating. Such idiots!!

Lucky you must not have seen all of the comments that whitewash her coaches and the system in Russia. It’s disheartening. Apparently it is all “western media” that made all of this happen. Even has almost every single account of this that I saw pointed the finger to the adults/system around her. Apparently “everything is fine” it’s just “western media”… very disturbing. I hope that a thorough investigation happens and -Russia- ROC actually has to face some consequences…

@@1chienandalou I’ve only been mildly paying attention to the story but was glad what I heard framed the 15 year old as a victim cause she is. Sad that there is a lot of coverage trying to make the coaches look good. Also dope Un Chien Andalou profile pic.

adults not around her are to blame, but adults from WADA and IOC

I doubt it. Which is super sad. Already the narrative is that Western media caused her breakdown. Nothing is being learned from this. Poor girls… I mean plural all of them.

they seemed like they were dancing around the subject of her coaches being awful. pansies

That's what should happen but its Russia. They don't care about their athletes and who's going to tell them what to do? The IOC has no spine and neither does the skating bodies. The sport is a joke.

Doubt that. Johnny Weir said in an interview before the scandal broke that the Russians could sweep.

My thoughts are that they told her to perform as she did, or she threw it away Intentionally herself :(

I disagree. The way the coaches reacted to Valieva’s performance rules that almost immediately

She landed those jumps perfectly during the practice. I believe that she was told to perform badly and you can see it in the performance.

Eteri was well aware that she wouldn't be taking the brunt of the punishment. She and her entourage of coaching staff and doctors noticeably distanced themselves from Valieva after the scandal broke out. Reports said they weren't present when Valieva had to go through closed doors interviews with the press, and left her out to dry. Valieva was a sacrificial lamb indeed. Eteri sees her skaters as disposable, ephemeral. She wouldn't want to risk her own reputation to defend her skater. She must be held responsible if we're to see any improvement in fairness and the wellbeing of skaters.

@@ericyuan9718 There is not a word of truth in what you're saying. Eteri was present everywhere the coach was ALLOWED to be present. Kamila was alone only when she had to be. Everywhere else, either coaches or her Mom was present. Nobody distanced themselves from Kamila. She's getting a lot of help and support from everyone. Nobody is treating her like a sacrificial lamb and Eteri and her team stand by her side.

@@NVolinsky help and support? by asking kamila why she gave up after the 3A and why she didnt fight, seconds after she stepped off the ice after the most devastating and traumatic performance of her career? i cant imagine anyone in the WORLD with a heart not giving an emotionally broken fifteen year old girl a hug in that situation. and eteri stood there and scolded her. she is heartless. if they are "standing by her side" we would see kamila three, four, five years from now with a healthy, thriving career. i know that that will not happen. by the next olympics kamila will be retired with the same horrific injuries eteri has given the rest of her girls.

I also think she was the sacrificial lamb today. They used her and the other girls to protect their coaching camp. Seems Trusova thought she could just do a bunch of quads good or bad and win because of previous over scoring. Kamila needed a hug and she received negative criticism instead. Please let this young lady receive needed help and the adults around her get held accountable.

The silver medalist was complaining that her coach gave more preference to the winner Anya Sherbakova. Also Valieva has legal support and lawyers who represent her and her personal assets valued over 3 million dollars.

It is certainly a conspiracy floating around, though I think she just cracked under pressure.

@@Dcachey She fell once in the team competitions. If she was told to take the fall, it was probably not her coach that told her to because she was extra brutal to Valieva right after she got off the ice.

No one has brought this up but I think the giveaway that this did happen was Sasha's reaction over not winning gold. She seemed so sure she would win gold that she broke down when she didn't. If Kamila was expected to place gold, which everyone did, then why would Sasha be so disappointed? No doubt Kamila would score miles over her and that wouldn't be a surprise to her. I think it was decided that Kamila would throw her performance, thereby setting the stage for the other two to get gold and silver, and it seems Sasha expected to get gold over Anna.

@@jeaniebeanie6 No, Sasha thought she'd win gold because she jumped several quads unlike Anna but she forgot that technicals was only half of the grade and Anna was a far better artistic performer and was able to more than make up for her lesser technicals.

I'm not with the conspiracy theory. The girl cracked under the pressure and didn't medal. She's only 15 and not ready for the storm that was brewing around her. The other girls got caught up in their emotions for their team mate. It was all just a horrible display. The adults have some explaining to do.

No victory is worth the emotional abuse. No coach is worth to train you as a robot on ice .Kamila's feelings are the most important and she showed on ice what she felt inside .

I feel pity for you to believe like that... It's not your fault. You are also one of the victims of Russian Totalitarian education...

Nobody, not even an adult, could have skated perfectly after a week of extreme stress. This is why she shouldnt have been allowed to skate. Her mental state is in wreck.

All they would have needed to do was have her withdraw due to sickness or injury if they wanted her out. Intentionally falling makes no sense at all in this case.

I agree they should set the age limit to 18 and then this wouldn’t have been handled this way. It would have been clear to resolve if they set the age limit for the Olympics to 18 and jr Olympians would be under. Televise both but it would fix this from ever happening and being handled like it was.

I really hope she has a strong support system as she goes home right now. I mean outside of Skating because those people have let her down and how they let this happen and then how they responded to this. She’s a very valuable talent and I hope she can continue her career (as long as it makes her happy of course)

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why are you so sure that you know better what our skaters really want? To achieve such success at such a young age when you can leave the sport and go to study in your chosen direction at the same time as your school friends, and then not sacrifice your personal life and start a full-fledged family when you want, and not when your career lets go - is not such an unattractive goal that certainly none of these girls will want to. Rather, on the contrary. Don't force your desires on them. You only know better what you personally want, but what they want is known to them, but not to you.

@@user-go2gm3xu5t "To achieve such success at such a young age"... yes, but at what cost? Cardiac medications for teenagers, menopause (Lupron) injections to delay puberty/menses, subsisting on powdered nutrients, only being allowed to swish water in your mouth and then spit it out at competitions, daily weigh-ins where gaining half a pound is said to throw off jumping abilities, when it absolutely shouldn't if proper technique is taught, and then debilitating back injuries and bone fractures. Is this worth it to 'win' at such a young age? Rarely (but it does happen) there is a talent that can achieve great success at such a young age in a healthy, natural way,, but when you can turn out endless teenagers at this level and it becomes the standard, something 'wrong' is happening in the training. Peaking in your early 20s, as a healthy athlete, shouldn't throw off the rest of life's events. It opens up all the choices then - to retire and move on, or to continue skating. At least this way, the chronic, permanent back injuries don't force a decision. Now, Russian girls that wants a longer career, past the age of 18 have to defect to skate for other countries. That's a shame for Russian sports.

As for heart drugs for teenagers, wait for the court's decision, respect the presumption of innocence. This is your Western value! Lupron is not for Russia, it is for Norway. Years later, Marit Bjergen told about this in her autobiography, as well as that she was caught on this doping, but she was forgiven. Of course, she is not Russian, it was necessary to forgive. The Russians would not be forgiven. Powder nutrition and other crap is a slander spread by bloggers who carry out an order for black PR in relation to the Tutberidze coaching staff. These statements are not supported by any evidence and are a gross lie. In sports such as figure skating or gymnastics, great success is achieved at such a young age. The Russians are far from pioneers in this. But the Americans can, the Chinese can, and everyone else can, only the Russians can't. This is if you follow your rotten morality. Skaters who cannot get into the Russian national team leave for other countries because they want to compete at the European and World Championships. They can be understood, we release such girls. There is nothing unusual about this. For example, a Japanese woman competed for Russia, who in Japan did not find a pair for pair skating, but wanted to compete at the World Championships. Age has nothing to do with it.

@@user-go2gm3xu5t Everything is called 'baseless slander', even when it comes from the mouths of her own competitors. And from science (doping). I criticize any country for such practices, not just Russia. It happens elsewhere too, but not as chronically and egregiously (right now) as in this particular camp. I don't have these opinions because I am against Russia. I am genuinely concerned and sad for the girls and their health (physically and psychologically). It's unfortunate that any criticism or concerns expressed are dismissed as being 'anti-Russian' or 'westernized thinking'. I am Eastern European, myself. I have always revered Russia's talent in the arts and love the rich history and culture. Many of my favourite skaters of all time are Russian. Lots of mistakes have been made by many countries in the past (and today!), with regards to training athletes. We are always learning and evolving. Now we know better. Just like Karolyi was wrong, Eteri is wrong. I would like to see the sport and its athletes improve - that includes Russia.

@@Kristin2885 "even when it comes from the mouths of her own competitors"? Competitors? Why does this surprise you? Unscrupulous competitors are commonplace. Russia at the state level constantly faces unfair competition from the West, so it is not strange that competitors at the private level behave unfairly. "from science (doping)"? No, science has nothing to do with it. Any allegations must be proven in the manner prescribed by law, and no one should be punished without proven guilt. After all, this is what the West declares as a free value. But this free value does not apply to Russia and Russians. For the Russians, the West has another criterion - "highly-likly", and this magic formula is enough for the West to accuse Russia and the Russians of anything, strike anyone with their rights and punish anyone in any way that comes to the mind of the crazed Western officials. There is no regulation in which it would be prescribed what kind of violation (true or imaginary) which corresponds to the punishment. It all depends on the imagination of those. who arrogated to himself the right to judge and punish. Hence the deprivation of our athletes of the flag, anthem and the right to represent the country, and sometimes the right to participate in competitions, to practice their profession. Hence all the other sanctions. "chronically and egregiously (right now) as in this particular camp"? What are you talking about? About doping? Doesn’t it bother you that there is not a single proven case "in this particular camp", and the case with Camila is clearly a one-time accidental hit of a prohibited drug, or is it a laboratory error in general, given all the facts that have already been published in the CAS decision? Or do you mean something other? It's not clear from your comment. What is so terrible going on "in this particular camp"? And what evidence is there to support that this terrible thing actually happens, and is not a figment of the imagination of black PR? Any criticism is not refuted, and evidence is required for any accusations, do not substitute concepts. Why are you unhappy with this? If you were accused of something, would you not demand to provide evidence of guilt? And all this is perceived as anti-Russian actions, because unsubstantiated accusations (those same "highly-likly") are constantly pouring on our heads, and we have been fed up with all this for a long time. If you were in our place, you might have long ago grabbed a machine gun when Western "well-wishers" approached you. I have no idea what Karolyi did wrong. It's none of my business, he didn't work in my country and I don't get into it. Although I checked, and Karolyi personally does not seem to be accused of anything by law enforcement agencies. Then I don't understand what you're accusing him of. But this is a completely different topic. Your argument looks like Eteri is to blame for something, because Karolyi is to blame for something. That is, just in case, in reserve, for the future. This is some kind of absurdity, which I do not know how to discuss at all. In my mind, punishment should follow exclusively guilt proven in the manner prescribed by law, and the punishment should be such as is established by law for a specific violation. And, of course, there should be no collective responsibility "for the company". Punishment must be individual. The West used to declare such a procedure for bringing to justice, but now the West has decided to give a damn about all this if it wants to act against Russia. Naturally, this does not seem right to the Russians and we will never agree with the justice of such anti-Russian actions. Accuse - prove. And nothing else.

In fact it's not actually a myth. That's why there is no longer a Russian team at the Olympics It's ROC. Because Russia has been caught multiple times doping their athletes and they are no longer allowed to compete at the Olympics under the Russian flag. I'm sorry to say it and sometimes the truth hurts but Russia is not known to be good sportsman that play fair. Call it what you want and yes every situation is different.

As a Canadian, let me answer this, "would you call such an american or canadian coach, who brings medal after medal to country with different athlets, an abuser in USA or Canada?" If they're abusive, yes, absolutely. Someone can be a brilliant coach who trains gold-medal athletes again and again, and still be abusive. It's not an either/or proposition.

@@lyndabethcave3835 yes, you are absolutely right, it's not either/or proposition. However, correct me if I'm wrong, but it's often enough that abusive behavior become forgotten, at least for quite a while, if one shows high results. The very first example which came to my mind is Harvey Weinstein. Yes, he is punished now, but how long did it take? And I'm pretty positive we both can find much more examples, and even more we wouldn't find, because they are not publicly discovered yet, but they are exist... I'm quite confident that in Canada as well there are coaches with harsh coaching style, and although for many athlets it's unaccaptable, some are showing very good results and satisfied.🤷‍♀️

The ends justify the means is not really the argument you think it is. Not when the issue is a level playing field.

@@Dcachey Muy cierto lo que escribe.

another incubator got out and writes off the comment from the instructions. All your words about coaches are lies from beginning to end, and this is easily verified. But your goal is not to achieve the truth, but to eliminate a competitor that you will never defeat in a fair fight. That's why you throw mud at the coach. Her coach is none of your business. Mind your own problems, don't mess with her.

@@user-go2gm3xu5t Yeah we all know why Russian is only allowed to compete as Olympic committee and not their country. No place in sports for doping, especially of a 15 year old child. She deserves better than the idiot adults surrounding her.

Они бесятся , что это Наше чудо , а не их . Камилочка ещё будет первой и не раз !

они не критикуют Камилу. они говорят, как тяжело ей должно быть

They aren't criticising Kamila... They are showing empathy towards her.

@@KM-rt5jj они пытаются устранить Этери. Случись такое, для Камилы ничего хорошего не будет. Они пытаются устранить конкурента, которого никогда не смогут победить в честной борьбе.

@@user-go2gm3xu5t точно. А комментарии все, как по шаблону. Мы такие толерантные сердобольные, жалеем девочку. А вот тренер зверь. Жестокое обращение с детьми и бла бла бла. Как СМИ написали, так и повторяют, под копирку. Нет ни своего мнения, ни логики, чтоб подумать. Как попугаи

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You stole my words. And Russian propaganda might still call the West petty for denying them a podium sweep...

​@@ericyuan9718 This is a provocation by WADA and the US against Russia. The day will come when you will be taken back. Your country will burn in nuclear ash.

How many illiterate, superficial and not deeply thinking people are in the West, it amazes me. Do you believe your media, there is only one lie around. There could only be two versions with Camilla: 1. A laboratory error is accidental or special in order to extend sanctions against the Russian national team at the next Olympics. Sanctions against the Russian national team ended at this Olympics. I inform you that all the samples of Camilla over the past 2 years were all negative, except for the allegedly detected microdose for 1.5 months taken at the Russian Championship. Then there was the European Championship 0.5 months before the Olympics, where she brilliantly won and also with a negative breakdown. I also inform you that the sample for 0.5 months from the European Championship was presented earlier than for the sample made for 1.5 months and was presented right after the performance in team competitions, does it seem suspicious to you. 2. A microdose about alleged doping could accidentally get into Camilla's body, her grandfather uses such a drug for the heart and he lives with her in the same house. And also someone could have spied on food or drinks among the entourage of coaches, functionaries, other figure skaters, etc. After all, this drug, according to some scientists, cannot improve sports performance. All Russian athletes, coaches and functionaries around sports know perfectly well that Russia is under sanctions and their athletes are checked twice as much and more thoroughly than athletes from other countries. No normal and adequate athlete, coach or doctor of the Russian national team will not use doping under the fear that the Russian national team will be punished with sanctions for several more Olympics in the future. Personally, I am more inclined that this is a US special operation to discredit Russia. They forced the Swedish laboratory to give false test results for Camilla.

@@Socrushitel1960 Your dumb conspiracy theories wouldn't have anything to do with you being Russian, now would it?

@@ericyuan9718 and you don’t know that the American team demanded to give them medals, but CAS refused them?

I don’t think she was told to fail or did it on purpose. But she may have unconsciously”withdrawn” herself, which she could not dare to do explicitly, because she felt so much pressure, and possibly put guilt on herself… Heartbreaking.

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. She's going to be treating and is ALREADY being treated like a QUEEN in her country. There is a tremendous wave of love and support for Kamila. Everyone from average people to celebrities to politicians - everyone loves her. Everyone knows she's been robbed of the medal by this scandal she had nothing to do with. She's going to get a lot of help and support and it's going to be up to HER whether she wants to come back. Whatever her decision is, she's going to get a lot of help, support, money and all the perks of an actual medalist.

@@NVolinsky It's so nice to hear she has received all the supports and love she deserves!!!

They did test her, as they do every athlete when they arrived at the Beijing Olympics. Her test was negative, as they have always been with the exception of the competition in December. The other Russian ice skaters were probably being given the same medications, there was just a mistake in how far ahead of the Russian competition they stopped giving it to her.

@@janetmckenzie146 Camila, like our other figure skaters, took tests many times from August to February. They win all the time, so they are constantly tested. And all their tests are clean. The only test Camila passed among the rest contains a microscopic dose of a banned substance. Don't you think that with the systematic use of doping aimed at achieving an effect, the picture with the tests would look different? At the same time, let me remind you of the case of an American figure skater who was found to have the same substance, but she was acquitted, considering that this substance got into her body from shampoo. The shampoo is not exclusive, Camila could also use the same shampoo. Shall we punish her for it? Will we punish her coaches and parents at the same time? She is not an American figure skater, her cannot be justified. Is it ok, what do you think?

Queen of doping is more like it

@@djbadlt допинг у тебя в голове, злой тролль.

@@user-un7st7gf4j well, that’s actually true! It is considered as Doping. It is, what it is. Kamila was Caught. So sorry.

@@user-un7st7gf4j I'm sorry I don't speak commie

U do know that eteri (her coach) is pure evil right? There so many ways to give her drugs without Kamila knowing.

Cause it's Russia! Good luck telling a authoritarian regime what to do with its athletes.

Why does she need guardians with living parents? Parents are legal representatives, it is written in the Family Code

@@user-go2gm3xu5t Because a trained guardian would not only understand the business but could also be objective. History shows us that parents are often the worst representatives for their children's careers.

@@billnye4213 Good point. Totally different culture. Is Russia the only entity that makes decisions concerning its Olympic athletes? There is no oversight? I don't know how the Olympic system works.

@@tellthetruthna8523 do you mean agent? In our team competitions, athletes have agents, but I don’t know about individual events. Most likely there are those who have advertising contracts. But the agent will not go against the will of the parents and the athlete herself. And it is right. His job is to advise, not to decide. In general, a strange mixture - both in business to advise something, and to control relationships with a trainer? Maybe even in your personal life to climb? Some kind of superhero. Such a person has too many powers, so I think that he is not needed. An ordinary agent and a commissioner for minors' rights are enough. And your distrust of your parents is discouraging. There is something wrong and evil about it.

Touche, agree, something is not right with this picture. Was she coached to muff her performance? This is so sad and the adult Russians should be held accountable, lock them up, child abuse.

@@fifermcgee5971 my every gut instinct is that yes, she was 🤷‍♀️

Yeah. A part of me thinks she was just under a lot of pressure and couldn't perform. At the same time, I suspect that she may have been told to screw up so her teammates have a chance to get a medal ceremony. Or possible even to shift scruitiny away from whats happening at sambo 70 or Russia's systematic doping. Hard to say so we'll never know.

@@Mica_T бред

@@Mica_T I genuinely believe she did fail on purpose. No one has brought this up but I think the giveaway that this did happen was Sasha's reaction over not winning gold. She seemed so sure she would win gold that she broke down when she didn't. If Kamila was expected to place gold, which everyone did, then why would Sasha be so disappointed? No doubt Kamila would score miles over her and that wouldn't be a surprise to her. I think it was decided that Kamila would throw her performance, thereby setting the stage for the other two to get gold and silver, and it seems Sasha expected to get gold over Anna but it didn't happen and she was livid.