this special episode is so interesting especially because it’s partially written by hunter schafer herself and her trans experience

Not only was Jules admitted against her will but she was admitted to a psychiatric hospital for boys. As a trans girl, that messed with her a lot too I’d think

Jules was admitted as a child (it's mentioned and shown in another episode though I can't remember which one). She was admitted against her will and not knowing that is what was happening until she was there.

The ocean is really peaceful to me. Of course I know there’s so many animals in there & that all it takes is one bad current and something peaceful can turn violent but it’s so beautiful. The power it holds , the sounds of the waves, the way it looks at sunset. It’s easy to stare at the waves and not think of a single thing and just be present and enjoy the sounds & views

the fourth episode shows her time in the hospital and it really shows how she came to be the way she is

9:15 The ocean makes me feel small, in a good way. No matter how big I perceive a mistake to be in the context of the ocean it's like a rain drop

@13:12 - Your friend Jonathan at Cinema Therapy did a really brilliant job talking about anger by explaining it as: When you're angry, it's not really anger. It's something else. It comes out as anger because anger feels powerful at times when we feel vulnerable. (I'm paraphrasing, and probably not very well.)

13:12 Thanks for talking about this. One of the most powerful things I've ever heard is "Anger is pain's bodyguard". It stuck in my head well enough that whenever I've been angry, later (a lot of times much later, lol) I'll look at what I was guarding, what I was defending. It helps, to understand what's going on beneath the surface...especially when you have bipolar, lol. Sometimes you gotta sort out what's defense of self and what's exaggerated anger because your meds are off. 😅

12:14 yeah, in episode 4 of the first season, we see some of the jules childhood and it was her mom that wanted to put her into a psychiatric hospital. (I assume, she thought that there's something wrong with jules)

The Ocean makes me think of being able to exist without thinking about or sensing my body too much. Makes me think of freedom, of being nothing but a small dot in a seemingly endless space.

TW: ED, suicide That episode brought up a lot for me and I loved how it was handled. I also was in therapy as a teenager when I was 15-16, and very necessarily so: I was severely anorexic, depressed, self-harming, and had attempted suicide. My psychiatrist wasn't bad, but I could never bring myself to open up in therapy. We would spend each 50min practically in silence. I wasn't ready, and unfortunately I wouldn't be ready until years later. I think this happens with a lot of teenagers who are made to go to therapy, for me it seemed so counterintuitive to tell this person all the things I had been actively trying to hide from everyone I cared about it my life. I appreciate being able to see positive representations of therapy with young people, I think it could help young people see therapy as a positive thing as opposed to some torture your parents make you do because you "fucked up".

9:15 The ocean for me is some type of freedom, feeling of bliss and contentment. Assuming I'm the only one sitting near the seashore (oceanshore?), I feel as though the sounds of the ocean are there for moral support. It is refreshing and feels new everytime.

I have a lot of trans friends and the anguish of de-transitioners is often weaponized against them. Thank you for mentioning it.

Metaphorically, the ocean has always represented (to me) overwhelming power, a loss of control. In a good and bad ways

The ocean thing is really interesting because everyone DOES interpret it differently, you said going with the flow but my brain said taking risks, like when we swim in the ocean we stop at a certain point because it gets too scary and vast but up until that stop we are essentially risking our lives to the will of nature. But then again i have death and related things as the primary trigger for my OCD so my brain goes OCEAN = BIG = DEEP = BODIES = DEATH = ABSOLUTELY NOT

I think there’s a lot of mental health stigma around therapy. I had therapy a few years ago and I put it off for so long before that because I felt like I would be judged and people would think there was something wrong with me. It’s also not exactly accessible in the U.K. either. I’m so glad I did it though, it’s worth it.

I hope this isn’t odd, but I look up to you a lot. Basically one of my heroes. I’m a biopsych student and studying ptsd and the illnesses that are caused in consequence. I just love your intelligence, empathy and art of analyzing. I hope to be close to as good as you one day.

Oooh the ocean. Whenever I get near the sea it represents freedom. The distant horizon draws my thoughts forward with hope. Also, I use the sea as a descriptor for a medical condition I live with. I have relapse remit MS. The tide comes in (having a flare) ... the tide goes out (no new symptoms and I am stable)

the ocean makes me think of childhood. of freedom at the beach, laughing and jumping in the waves, swimming out as far as I could go before my dad would join me and come back to shore with me. it makes me think of happier times, before the dysphoria made it harder to swim comfortably, before I realised that there was a reason I only saw my dad on the weekends. the ocean makes me feel warm and sad at the same time.

The ocean makes me think of consistency, dependency. I’ve lived near the beach my hole life, and no matter what’s happening in life, which beach I go to, and even which time of day, I know I’m going to hear the same waves flowing over and over. It’s comforting in bad times and it’s peaceful. It’s also a risk and reward relationship. The risk being wading through the first few seconds where it’s freezing and pushing against you, you keep moving forward until you’ve adjusted and gotten far enough to warm up and float on the surface, and finally feel peace.

The ocean is simultaneously fun beach vibes and even deeper the fear of the unknown. It feels scary after a certain point of depth and to conquer that and swim out far would be a fulfilling experience to me I think.

to me, the ocean is like, this thing that can’t be controlled. it can be your best friend or your worst enemy, you can be carressed by the gentle lapping of waves or dragged under by a fierce riptide. it’s raw, powerful, untamable, and yet it can be gentle and it is beautiful.

When i think of praying to the ocean i think of how much of our body is composed of water. Then I think of the ocean's relationship to the moon and It inspires a sort of subconscious connectedness

This was favorite episode from that season, it was interesting to see how Jules' coping mindset with so many things going in her life

9:15 The ocean makes me think of potential, vast opportunities. Once you’re deep enough in where you can’t see the shore. It’s just you. Being under the water is quiet, and you feel weightless. It’s just existing without thinking or being pressured by anyone or anything else. I like that.

Doing a whole episode in the format of a therapy session and including flashbacks and stuff is such a creative and clever way to do an episode I think. Also seeing a therapist react to that is also really interesting, like analysing the therapist really.

The ocean is the one place I have always been at home...at peace. Everywhere else has given me a sense of turbulence. I plan on moving back to the Pacific west in five years.

I looooved these specials, some thought they were boring bc it was all talking both episodes, but jfc it was the one way they could give us content during lockdown AND it gave us A LOT of insight into the two characters - especially Jules who has been weirdly anonymous in a way? Like we see day to day, but very little her internal struggles with words, and her past. Love Hunter so much, she is such an incredible actress. And Rue's special was also so important for touching on being young and supposed to be recovering severe drug misuse... as someone who has struggled with my mental health since a young teen, probably earlier, it is so amazing to see and hear someone reflect on a lot of my own emotions? I love seeing it in such a perspective as it really helps me reflect over my own ways and shit. Idk I love this show, tho a lot of unsolicited d*cks in s2 lmao.

The ocean covers most of the earth and still we know so little about it. It reminds me that the world is full of wonder yet to be discovered. There is just this sense of magic, that makes life feel a bit more hopeful. And yes, my favorite movie as a child was in fact 'The Little Mermaid'.

I think connecting with the ocean can represent a feeling of comfortable directionless, You can be so much and have no guiding for to go or do anything your just there.

When I feel overwhelmed thinking about the ocean and waves and all that help me calm down and it is happening since I was a child. It's kind of a nice, calm and conforting place to escape things that makes me suffer or makes me anxious. Btw thank you for your videos, I'm really interested in psychiatry and I'm learning a lot here, it's soooo nice, greetings from France ! (sorry for the mistakes in english I'm still learning lol)

I appreciate this video and how you approach everything with both an empathetic view as well as the professional breakdown of processes. As someone who has never been to therapy but is seeking it soon, it helps to know a bit of what goes on on the other side of things... although I've gotta say, I desperately hope I don't end up with a "silent start" therapist! That would make me want to never come back LOL.

The ocean makes me feel of fear but in a fun way. When you’re out in the ocean it’s hard and it hurts and it’s a little dangerous but it also makes me feel alive.

There's something very primal and yet soothing about the ocean. To me it represents this ancient maternal-like presence.

I always thought of the waves of the ocean as anxiety. if you fight against the wave, it just gets bigger until it's too big and too overwhelming. But if you just lie back and let the wave take you where it takes you, then you feel better

Hum, the ocean to me feel like major peace. I feel it is feminine too and it makes me think of wisdom and calmes of the mind. It can also be agresive and scary but to me in a inherently natural form that it's how things are. I love the ocean.

Thats so interesting to see. I am a psychology student from Austria and we are learning a lot about Psychoanalysis. I am watching your videos and it is super interesting how you are reacting to different videos. I would love to know more about your work in GB (how the system may be different to systems in Germany or Austria)

when i connect with the ocean i think of a majesty and something that is truly larger than myself. something that i can choose to fear, conquer, challenge, or accept as this wonderfully monstrous that could simply consume if i gave it the chance.

This episode is amazing and you commented on it so well! Makes me so happy to see accurate therapy portrayed in media as I'm going to become one myself someday :)

Absolutely love the way you present all of the information in your KZfaq videos. You’re one of my favorite people to watch and as a nurse I feel like I do learn things! I’ve always found psych fascinating.

I just found your channel and I must say I’m loving it. I’ve been through a lot in my life and always told myself I was okay. It wasn’t until my wife was diagnosed with bpd plus co-morbidities and she had a complete breakdown which shattered our life that I couldn’t tell myself I was okay anymore. I was losing myself and having panic attacks and got myself into therapy within two weeks. I was so lucky to have connected with one that I have been able to be completely vulnerable with over the course of 9 months. She listens so well it blows my mind. Barely ever looks away from me to write notes. She remembers everything I’ve brought to her and has empowered me, educated me, validated me, given me clarity. When I thank her for these things and express my gratitude she reminds me that I’ve done all of those things on my own. She’s just been the person I’ve bounced everything off of. She really cares and I was so scared of being able to bring all of my problems to a stranger. I was that person that called after my first session to apologize for completely unloading everything on her and she reassured me that it was perfectly okay and that that’s what she is there for. Therapy has been one of the best things to have ever happened in my life and I’m so excited to see where my journey takes me now. (Ps, my wife and I are doing fantastic yay!) I loved watching euphoria with this new perspective on life that I’ve gained through this journey, and to see you break it down like this is wonderful. I definitely want to talk to my therapist about it in my next session.

The ocean makes me feel of freedom, fluidity. It can be whatever it wants fill any space, it’s powerful and has the potential to be destructive but also the potential to be beautiful and help create life

Finally 💙💙💙 Love It so much! Jules is a wonderful character and I just love her so much. Can you react to episode 4 from 1st Season? Its Jules childhood story. You 're awesome 💙💙

I definitely have a habit of pushing people when they try to talk about things, so these are some good questions to ask even when I'm trying to figure things out with friends. Eventhough I'm not a therapist, as a friend you can easily end up tying things to what you already know about your friends.

Beautiful reaction video! I know im asking a lot (whole season 2) but could you do a reaction about cassie? I think there is a lot of things showing in her thoughts and behaviour this season that could be interesting to crack on

I find the ocean overwhelming, no boundaries. I like to feel in control while being in the ocean I find it hard to be.

So funny when he actually loves a TV therapist 😂

I feel scared and overwhelmed of the ocean, it's so strong and relentless that you could get lost fairly quickly.

I've binged your entire channel over two days! Want more!;) why not do an episode of sopranos? You know 'what happened to the strong silent type'

The ocean connects with me in the sense of my emptiness, my vastness, and the cycle of repetition.

The ocean... the first thing that comes to my mind is how cold and deep it is. The feeling of having water put pressure on every millimeter of one's body from every possible direction and the inability to escape it, or to breathe. My first thought was the fear of losing control, the absurd amount of energy put into gaining some of the control back, but losing anyway

this is a really interesting episode. i can relate to a lot of the genereal session aspects (I'm having these since many years....). And I feel the hardness that comes with it. About the ocean, I have recurring dreams where I can somehow magically use it as a portal to new places. my dream-I would go swim, dive deep into it, and emerge anywhere else. Could be a whole new world or just a bathtub... any water really. I find it interesting, but can't really explain where it comes from. Also almost never swim on the surface,it is always diving in the water masses. And they can be soothing, beautiful, fascinating or scary. (Also, I absolved a diving license in the very only holiday I ever had and LOVED diving, but had these portal-like dreams even before in my childhood) And I really stopped to write this before listening to your associations with the ocean. Interesting.

The ocean makes me think of the power of nature. Just the unknown vastness of it makes you feel like such a small organism in comparison, but not in a scary way but a grounding way. It’s so easy to relax in the ocean and just feel one with the Earth at that moment, even if it sounds corny.

Love your input on this show. Please react to euphoria’s season 2 episode 5 please. I’d love to see your thoughts on Rue’s escalation

The ocean reminds me of freedom. The natural order of just the world feeling like one w it. Whenever I’m in water it feels like i can fully breathe

The ocean , I am so so so scared of the ocean, but I f**king love it at the same time. it’s so peaceful and beautiful and undefeatable, it makes me anxious but so calm at the same time, ahhh it’s so beautiful too, but sometimes it’s so scary,it’s just unpredictable and feminine. that’s how I perceive it

Connecting with the ocean makes me think of quiet and calm and being alone (in a good way)

Paused at the ocean bit and wanted to comment on how that makes me feel: I think here ocean is a metaphor for unconditional acceptance. You are always just you, no matter how far you go, what other ppl think or talk about you, you are just you when you swim in the ocean. It's like the kind of feeling from mom Jules was talking about, you are loved for just existing, and you can decide how to design your body image, regardless of social categories. I think gender fluid people can resonate with this a bit more as ocean can also be a metaphor for "fluid"

Ocean makes me think of the womb. Weightlessness, carelessness.

I love the ocean it reminds me of my dad and visits to the sea. I have always liked swimming and it reminds me of family holidays.

*BTW ..JULES' ACTOR...THE REAL PERSON, HUNTER SHAFFER WAS ASKED BY THE DIRECTOR TO HELP WRITE THIS EPISODE....SO SHES BEING EXTREMELY REAL HERE AND IS THE BEST REPRESENTATION FROM AN ACTUAL TRANS PERSON...NOT JUST SOME STRAIGHT WRITERS. :)*

Could you do something on arcane, league of legends (maybe something about attachment) or Azula at the end of avatar season 3. Also I would love to see something about social anxiety disorder.

Im terrified of the ocean. It is a big death scape full of monsters.

I find the ocean overwhelmingly peaceful. It's a force greater than any mere human; but we are still a small part of that system at work. It's the sort of peace that comes with believing in something bigger than yourself that I never seemed to find in organized religion or prayer (but what I imagine others felt).

The ocean to me signifies this unknowable vastness and how I’m just a small part of this world.

The ocean is horrifying to me. It's so vast, and my brain has always been severely afraid of anything huge - anything that I can't see the end of. For me, everything has to have a semi definitive end, and I've taken comfort in that since I can remember (it's one of the only memories/fears I still have from early childhood). However, I live right by a lake. And I love it. I love to sit by it, especially during the sunrise. I can see the end, I know what's on the other side, and I feel at peace with that. In writing this comment, I completely see that this is how I feel about being alive, so thank you for the prompt.

The ocean for me is this openness to this giant body around you, and it's a vulnerability that gives some catharsis. Relatable to this video a bit. I love Jules's character, and it is so meaningful to me as a queer person seeing this. I hope I get myself to finally watch the full show soon.

This reminds me I need to go back to therapy

I wouldn’t really enjoy the ocean, my thought Is that I can’t be taken along by the currents. It’s horrifying and I enjoy pools- a contained space of short lived freedom. Maybe I took it too literally.

In my therapy, I am drawn to the image of a lake. I feel the water is embracing.

I personally describe my feelings (inspired by something I've read) as feeling pinned to the bottom a SMALL pool and water starts pooling in, overwhelming and I become very very expressive about it. The sea is peaceful but its big and powerful, yet people still love it so so so much, i want to lay in it and just want to float and flow calmly over big waves, I want control over my feelings, they will still be big of course but I would be able to relax and maybe grow and learn from it.

Elliott, I don't know if you're up for it because it's such a hefty story, but it would be great to see your thoughts on Girl, Interrupted!

It would be amazing if you could do a Nate special - (maybe addressing ASPD tendencies &/or excessive dominance)

Ocean makes me think of death, fear, the unknown, darkness

In the worst of my anxiety, I had dreams of floating in water (not drowning or reaching for the surface) just stillness, I think it was calming / self-soothing. like a metal weighted blanket; a place devoid of stimuli, just distance, safety and suspension

The ocean gives me places and it allows me to be free

For me the ocean is totally spiritual and I’ve soul tied to it in a way lol, it’s home and it’s where we were born from so I visit it often and I know it will be my final resting place when I die

Question - do psychiatrists in the UK have something that in Poland we calls 'superwizja' ( supervision? - nothing to do with your eyes). Its like mandatory therapy for therapist

when I think spiritually about the ocean I think of it's immense size in both space and time. Floating on the skin of an eternal expanse the stretches to every horizon and down to black depths never glimpsed by anyone. I also think of how when life began on Earth, Earth was just ocean, there was no land, and from the ocean all life sprang. both a literal physical cradle of life and a spiritual symbolic womb. The ocean is the beginning and the end, it is mystery and transcendence.

I feel very connected to water and swimming, it makes me feel so free, almost like flying, like you're levitating and you don't feel anything but the cold water on your skin, you don't feel the ground, you don't feel your own weight. Maybe because I'm fat lol it makes me feel so light and also it's the only type of sport that doesn't make me lose my breath and doesn't make my knees, joints and my back tired cause I don't have to swim fast, I can swim slowly but for hours, I can always lay on my back and rest and again laying on my back in the water is one of the best feelings in the world. There is so many things you can do, you can lay in the shallow water and let the waves wash you, you can lay on the water and let it take you wherever it wants or you can put your hands on your knees and slowly sink to the bottom and feel like you don't even exist. Oh I sound like a weirdo. I feel like it's really good for my mental health, I have social anxiety, depression and I'm an ACOA and I feel like it just lets me feel free for a moment and forget about everything and be just with myself and I always feel lighter when I come out of water. So Yeah, I definitely could understand what Jules was saying about the ocean

Well you see im a H P Lovecraft fan so when i think of the ocean i think of how peaceful it is and how massive and foreboding it is, like the size of the ocean is incomprehensible and "praying to the ocean" to me personally that makes me think of cosmic horror and existentialism but less crisis and more acceptance of how the universe works and how meaningless my life will be in the grand scheme of things and how there is a lot that is out of my control but in a positive context. acceptance and peace. and when you are in the water there is a certain comfort to being completely enveloped by the water and feeling the pressure all around your body like a water hug, i can see that being a comfort.

The ocean is freedom to me it's a place where I can be myself regardless of my body and always has been

The ocean to me is a combination of opposites. It is a boundary, yet also "a gentleman's highway", yet also famous for pirates... A beauty and a terror, too bright to look at at day and full of stars at night. I often think that the ocean creatures are the last of the dinosaurs, the ancient creatures who were before modern man and who will likely outlast him. Yet there are also seabirds, like the albatross whose heart beats more slowly while it's flying than when it's resting. When I take a walk on the beach it isn't for the serenity, it's because only the ocean has a greater restlessness than mine. It is swayed by the cold untouchability of the moon but also by the unbearably hot grasp of the sun. So too am I attracted by opposite things. I suspect everyone has a unique view of the ocean. This was a bit of mine.

Ive never really thought about it but I see the ocean as tranquil. Peaceful, kind of, but in the way like soft rain is. I don’t know why but i feel like if the ocean and sleeping were things you could feel, they’d feel the same way. Like I don’t see anything hostile about the ocean. Like even drowning, after the initial shock, I think drowning would be a pretty peaceful way to die. Letting it just consume you, like sleep. Now that I think about it, I’d love to just go all the way down to the bottom of the ocean just to think. Sure there are things that are dangerous about it but even then I feel like it always has a peaceful end. Like eventually those big waves will dispel into sea foam and it’ll collect again all together. The ocean feels just unchanging and like a place you can escape to to put your life on pause, just like sleeping. Idk, i just equate the two.

Interesting thoughts about the ocean - for me, the ocean is more powerful and violent. Whereas a lake is the calm and peaceful place and a large river is the thing that you just float along and go where it takes you.

For me ocean means freedom. No boundaries, no walls, no rules and nothing that restricts you.

I'm glad my therapist doesn't do that silent start thing bc honestly I would probably sit there for an hour and be too anxious to say anything. I can barely even start conversations normally bc I talk myself out of everything before I say it.

Recommendation: Griff the Invisible (2011) Would love to hear your thoughts on the two main characters, enabling delusions, and ?possible autism spectrum?

A river might mean go with the flow. But swimming in an ocean to me always means a desire for death.

When I see the ocean I think of exploring just like my Viking ancestors did and calmness. To be honest being in any body of water helps me which to me is kind of ironic because when my sister was a drug addict and the years went by I wanted to die so I tried to drown myself in the tub by breathing in as much water as I could but I stopped because I got too scared of dying. I'm grateful that I didn't go along with my suicide attempt.

9:25 Being free and not having to make decision for yourself, you don't have to go the way you're supposed to just go with the flow and not having responsibility of where you're going

i want to see you react to cassie in season 2 so bad

I feel like I connect with the woods

Ocean to me is a lot of things. I describe it as incomprehensibly powerful and vast. I love being in ocean, both swimming in it and and in a boat. I would be seafarer if my health allowed it. But ocean also has another side for me. It's the thing that I use to describe my depression. If I'm feeling a bit down, I'm sailing on shallow waters, near the shore. It's safe, I could swim the distance if I needed to. If I'm completely depressed I'm sailing on the deep seas, deep blue seas. The longer I stay there, the less supplies I have. If I'm lost at sea it can feel hopeless. And sometimes, during worst times, I fall into the water and am in danger of sinking. Clinging into a piece of wreckage, hanging on for my life. So far I have been rescued or I have beached into an island every time. Not once have the rescuers known how bad it was, since I "imagined" it. They always find me safe and sound on a boat. It's dream logic.

The ocean to me is VERY much nothing but power!

do you take recommendations? sorry if you don't but I was just wondering because Evangelion is also a really good show that handles mental health issues and I think it'd be interesting to watch you react to it, especially the last few episodes in the show

The ocean makes me feel suffocated and out of control. I’m borderline lol everything is dangerous or hostile

Hmm I didn't really realise the special episodes were separate from the rest of the story. That's interesting.

You should definitely react to Season 2 episode 5.

for me the ocean is a symbol of freedom because its so vast and open almost limitless also can symbolize not being alone or feeling comforted in my loneliness because you know on the other side there's millions of people I shouldn't stress about mundane things when everyone goes through them it would kind of take me out of my own mind you know?