Mercedes DELETED their Sidepods?

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2 жыл бұрын

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So Mercedes rocked up to Bahrain testing and seem to have left half of their car behind - they have completely redesigned the rear end of their car to remove the sidepods altogether.
Well, almost. They have slimmed the side of their car down so far, that there is barely a sidepod there. Only really enough to satisfy the regulations.
So what are they doing? And how on earth are they getting enough cooling to that engine?
Let’s go.
So the Mercedes already had a very slim rear-end, with pretty small sidepods that narrowed very tightly over the engine and gearbox at the rear of the car. And this was thought to be so that there is maximum surface area for airflow over the floor.
And lots of teams have been doing this in different ways. Undercuts, holes in the sidepods, narrowing the entire rear of the car - and I’m sure we’re going to see more ideas throughout the season.
And there is good reason for these efforts - the floor works by creating low pressure underneath the car - and the larger the pressure difference the more downforce.
So focusing on generating really clean flow over the top of the floor makes sense, generating more downforce as well as keeping the diffuser working at it’s best.
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@0megalul309
@0megalul309 2 жыл бұрын
Bono my sidepods are gone...
@man_named_AGGiE
@man_named_AGGiE 2 жыл бұрын
They are underneath
@RomanBellicTaxi
@RomanBellicTaxi 2 жыл бұрын
* proceeds to score another fastest lap *
@danielkoskiluoto4499
@danielkoskiluoto4499 2 жыл бұрын
@@RomanBellicTaxi damn you beat me to it!
@zayrzr1977
@zayrzr1977 2 жыл бұрын
Valtteri, its James
@MsPredator009
@MsPredator009 2 жыл бұрын
Duvajte ga i Hamiltonu i celom timu Mercedes AMG
@Heathen.Deity.
@Heathen.Deity. 2 жыл бұрын
Loads of teams: “look at our ingenious new side pods!!!!!” Mercedes: “You’re still using side pods? 🤷🏻‍♂️”
@Nave6W
@Nave6W 2 жыл бұрын
Be they’re slow
@lukasralys6096
@lukasralys6096 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nave6W :D
@vedantharwani9278
@vedantharwani9278 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nave6W the Sand bagging got to you
@nffcmagnus1122
@nffcmagnus1122 2 жыл бұрын
@@vedantharwani9278 doesn't look like sandbagging. The car looks pretty unsettled
@Costa173
@Costa173 2 жыл бұрын
@@nffcmagnus1122 looking is one thing, the blistering simulation times being talked about after this change is quite another.. we shall see.
@MrMattie725
@MrMattie725 2 жыл бұрын
Mercedes with the classic Mercedes plan: be so far ahead of everybody that cooling is not a problem. But as Bottas showed us multiple times: get penalty => traffic => suboptimal cooling => Mercedes goes nowhere.
@idontexist1681
@idontexist1681 2 жыл бұрын
Or it's just that merc gives bottas shittier parts
@ImK4Os
@ImK4Os 2 жыл бұрын
@@idontexist1681 they didn't. Bottas was just worse. It's nonsense that bottas was kneecapped at merc, why TF would they want to be slower just for the sake of making lewis happy
@Dyils
@Dyils 2 жыл бұрын
That wasn't a Mercedes problem, that was a Bottas problem. Lewis had no issue being behind traffic and still overtook everybody. His teammate was just shit. This won't be the case with George
@pranavps851
@pranavps851 2 жыл бұрын
@@idontexist1681 Bottas couldn't overtake if his life depended on it.
@GloomGaiGar
@GloomGaiGar 2 жыл бұрын
Brazil 2021.
@Djarra
@Djarra 2 жыл бұрын
The last time a team did this, with very different regulations, was Jordan in the mid 90s. They had a couple of cars where the sidepod was basically as small as the crash structure would allow.
@davidca96
@davidca96 2 жыл бұрын
The Jordan 191 is one of the most beautiful F1 cars ever made in my opinion.
@Ivovify
@Ivovify 2 жыл бұрын
How did it work out for them, did they manage to get/keep competitive?
@PapaMori
@PapaMori 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ivovify depends what you call competitive imo but i suggest watching the 90s F1 decade. It was an amazing watch for me personally
@nehylen5738
@nehylen5738 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ivovify The slimest-looking Jordan cars in my memory are the 95 & 96 ones. Pretty good Peugeot engine, and fared well. It was around where Alpha Gasly/Alpine were in 2021. Much better cars than the ones from the 3 previous seasons with the underpowered Hart/Judd engine.
@thesnackbandit
@thesnackbandit 2 жыл бұрын
@@PapaMori How do I do that? Is there a place where I can watch old race highlights?
@Daz555Daz
@Daz555Daz 2 жыл бұрын
Looking at some testing footage it seems like their porpoising problem is still horrendous.
@tyler_bt3326
@tyler_bt3326 2 жыл бұрын
Actually seems worse than in Barcelona now
@mred5625
@mred5625 2 жыл бұрын
They're just playing with the ride height, look at some of the earliest runs Lewis did today, there wasn't any bouncing, then there was. They're just looking at what the minimum height is they can get away with to prevent porpoising whilst retaining a good seal.
@reinzdonayre8721
@reinzdonayre8721 2 жыл бұрын
That's why it's called "Testing"
@Heathen.Deity.
@Heathen.Deity. 2 жыл бұрын
Yes and no. They’re just trying to find that sweet spot in terms of rife height.
@mred5625
@mred5625 2 жыл бұрын
I realise in my first reply I've mentioned two aquatic animals haha
@xeroxasaurus9883
@xeroxasaurus9883 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if Mercedes built a car with all their best aspects, like these side pods or the adjustable steering wheel.
@Brooks__EU
@Brooks__EU 2 жыл бұрын
Add the F-Duct from the mclaren days :D
@Bandikoot-br2xg
@Bandikoot-br2xg 2 жыл бұрын
Or the double drs
@KitKitChanIsaac
@KitKitChanIsaac 2 жыл бұрын
The D A S and also,the illegal engine from Brazil
@theraomaN
@theraomaN 2 жыл бұрын
@@KitKitChanIsaac wasn't illegal, just overclocking it
@xm258
@xm258 2 жыл бұрын
@@theraomaN Fresh to
@GrayCatbird1
@GrayCatbird1 2 жыл бұрын
From a purely aesthetics point of view, I hope their design isn’t made illegal but I also hope a little that it doesn’t become the norm. But then again, as much as sidepods have been a staple of F1 cars for decades now, it’s always time to make a dramatic change.
@casesully50
@casesully50 2 жыл бұрын
Ross brawn said it's legal
@effingandjeffing8270
@effingandjeffing8270 2 жыл бұрын
@@casesully50 that's true but they can adjust the rules if the design is moving away from what was intended in the new regs. If there are unforseen wakes or problems behind the car from this aero package the FIA may change some rules to pull them back in line again. Same with any of the other cars not just Merc.
@lukebennett.
@lukebennett. 2 жыл бұрын
@@effingandjeffing8270 they said this season they won't ban any inovations said Ross brawn
@casesully50
@casesully50 2 жыл бұрын
@@effingandjeffing8270 yeah but I don't think they would do that until next year's regs. Just like what they did with DAS. It was technically "legal" but the FIA was like, alright you got away with it, but you can't use it next year
@cambyses1529
@cambyses1529 2 жыл бұрын
@@casesully50 yeah, the questions seem to be about the wing mirrors.
@DawidSikora
@DawidSikora 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine next week quali Mercedes 2 sec faster than anyone else and we got another 4 years of their domination
@sausageroll2695
@sausageroll2695 2 жыл бұрын
Boring af
@FaceFish9
@FaceFish9 2 жыл бұрын
the i'll be real sad for buying a full year of F1TV...
@josephnus
@josephnus 2 жыл бұрын
No God Please No.. NOO.. NOOOOO
@Illum_
@Illum_ 2 жыл бұрын
id be amazed tbh if that happens for longer
@OttoHahnn
@OttoHahnn 2 жыл бұрын
this would kill the sport for good.
@tombryant8471
@tombryant8471 2 жыл бұрын
Depends on if they can keep the center of weight low enough, but the reduction in drag may well be worth it.
@MarkosDesya
@MarkosDesya 2 жыл бұрын
Was just thinking: I can't wait until Driver61 does a video on the W13 sidepods!
@stefanoe.m.1540
@stefanoe.m.1540 2 жыл бұрын
Binotto and Horner too
@randomdude8877
@randomdude8877 2 жыл бұрын
Im so happy about the fact that every team on the grid has a super distinct look to it. Without livery i could tell you exactly which car im looking at. Super cool to be honest.
@RockSolitude
@RockSolitude 2 жыл бұрын
Pity that from the side they all look exactly the same without the livery. It's only some angles where you can see the curves in the body in clear daylight that it looks different.
@randomdude8877
@randomdude8877 2 жыл бұрын
@@RockSolitude Not my problem if they do look the same to your eyes.
@braml7237
@braml7237 2 жыл бұрын
@@randomdude8877 What kind of response is that.
@mrdude9671
@mrdude9671 2 жыл бұрын
@@RockSolitude you could literally differentiate all the cars from the shape of their side pods or rear wings only . U don’t even need to look at the whole car . The only car I won’t be able to distinguish would be the HAAS , ALFA ROMEO , they are pretty generic and I have not been able to find any distinguishable factor in them .
@user-ww9pd2rz4e
@user-ww9pd2rz4e 2 жыл бұрын
@@braml7237 seems like a savage one
@ciemny_awootism
@ciemny_awootism 2 жыл бұрын
Man, we gone from first v6 hybrid having almost same horsepower as veyron, to having litterally 'no' sidepods and really thin body shape and cutouts on engine cover
@RockSolitude
@RockSolitude 2 жыл бұрын
That's a complete non-sequitur
@RENO_K
@RENO_K 2 жыл бұрын
1.6 liter V6 turbo hybrid Makes 1000hp+ If that's not the definition of insane, I don't know what is
@diegoamarilla7843
@diegoamarilla7843 2 жыл бұрын
@@RockSolitude totally😂
@pgmallon
@pgmallon 2 жыл бұрын
@@RENO_K The fact BMW made approximately 1400HP from a 1.5L turbo 4 nearly 30 years ago. Imagine where they would be if they stuck to developing the best race cars they could instead of the most efficient hybrids that they happen to race.
@spammables4528
@spammables4528 2 жыл бұрын
@@pgmallon made 1400hp for all of about 1 lap before turning into the worlds fastest frag grenade
@ragerancher
@ragerancher 2 жыл бұрын
"Uh boss, I accidently deleted the side pod models we had..." "Don't worry, we'll work around it."
@devanman7920
@devanman7920 2 жыл бұрын
Do I wanna see Mercedes dominate again? No of course not....do I think this should be allowed and Mercedes should be commended for being the smartest people there...of course I do.
@nik7bkh965
@nik7bkh965 2 жыл бұрын
No it shouldn't be allowed. We want close racing and not smart people with the most R&D money to destroy a sport. A championship should never be decided before the first race even started.
@johnbenoy7532
@johnbenoy7532 2 жыл бұрын
@@nik7bkh965 u are wanting to watch f1 for exciting racing that is artificially created. What stopped ferrari from doing the same thing? They just didn't think of it. Can't blame a team for doing a smart move while everyone was too afraid to try it out. It is not like the fia banned other teams from doing what merc is doing now. If u want absolute and total equality, fo watch a spec series not f1
@martinoberngruber1893
@martinoberngruber1893 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnbenoy7532 well that is a feature which is included in prototype racing. Prototype. Not standard type racing. Prototype is not only a contest of drivers, but also a contest of engineers.
@kaspervanderhorst8681
@kaspervanderhorst8681 2 жыл бұрын
Man were not even sure if the idea is good or not
@davidpearson4858
@davidpearson4858 2 жыл бұрын
@@nik7bkh965 I think you are mistaken about what f1 is..... maybe try f2
@zippo5294
@zippo5294 2 жыл бұрын
Like I said previously, love the dramatic look of the car! Props to the engineers!
@postRMO
@postRMO 2 жыл бұрын
Mate the speed and quality of your videos is absolutely exceptional. Ive watched you grow and I always look forward to it. Bravo and please keep it coming!
@gdogg3710
@gdogg3710 2 жыл бұрын
“Look at those sidepods!!! They look just like last year’s…that’s a bit underwhelming’, said everyone after the shakedown test. We know why now…
@gdogg3710
@gdogg3710 2 жыл бұрын
Also looks a bit Lyfe and/or Modena/Lambo as well with the minimal sidepods…
@SIRTACONATOR007
@SIRTACONATOR007 2 жыл бұрын
i knew it!
@chicobicalho5621
@chicobicalho5621 2 жыл бұрын
I just hope they aren't banned, for seeing teams push concepts this season has been quite amazing, and M-B came up with this really surprising design, which, is within regulations as far as Ross Brawn has implied.
@markm0000
@markm0000 2 жыл бұрын
I hope they are banned because Mercedes has been on top for way too long and it’s killing the enthusiasm for the sport.
@pectenmaximus231
@pectenmaximus231 2 жыл бұрын
@@markm0000 noooo top flight innovation should not be cancelled!! F1 is not about mediocrity
@sosman747
@sosman747 2 жыл бұрын
@@markm0000 that’s a bi*ch way to force fairness, F1 should never punish creativity
@MP422ownz
@MP422ownz 2 жыл бұрын
@@markm0000 Mercedes is awesome i hope they win again this year. You complaining because the best team keeps winning isn't very sporting......
@micahkiyimba8641
@micahkiyimba8641 2 жыл бұрын
If the design is too good, it will be banned..like the double diffuser was
@Markusgebvor
@Markusgebvor 2 жыл бұрын
I love the pre-season so far. This update is unexpected but from an engineering-point nice to see.
@Yurkevich22
@Yurkevich22 2 жыл бұрын
It's exciting to see teams experimenting so much!
@adityab7318
@adityab7318 2 жыл бұрын
This guy is a legend, just after the track session we get a video!
@nu3566
@nu3566 2 жыл бұрын
regular car ppl: muffler delete merc: sidepod delete
@axel0w
@axel0w 2 жыл бұрын
also merc : Q2 delete
@adamplace1414
@adamplace1414 2 жыл бұрын
As soon as I tuned into testing this morning (at 2am on a sketchy website because ESPN isn't covering it here..) I KNEW there would be a Driver 61 video about this, I just didn't realize it would be BEFORE THE END OF THE DAY'S TESTING! Incredible, well done.
@southernpride494
@southernpride494 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn't impressed with Merc today, George was having alot of trouble in the slower corners. Could be sand bagging at its finest, but ferrari was looking super clean
@nguyenquocduy4729
@nguyenquocduy4729 2 жыл бұрын
George has learned the way of the Mercedes sandbags I see.
@hansdahlberg9969
@hansdahlberg9969 2 жыл бұрын
They driving around with the handbrake on😉
@mrdude9671
@mrdude9671 2 жыл бұрын
🐪💼
@Daniboi971
@Daniboi971 2 жыл бұрын
100% sand
@chrishaswell4405
@chrishaswell4405 2 жыл бұрын
The way it bumps even in straight line looked like a concern
@joetheftman9619
@joetheftman9619 2 жыл бұрын
The Merc looked very twitchy in testing today. It looked like it was doing a quali lap, only 6 seconds slower.
@Law0fRevenge
@Law0fRevenge 2 жыл бұрын
They are also getting cooling from an intake in the floor, which is also something Scarbs had suggested. There is a picture of a Mercedes mechanic holding a blower on the floor's leading edge
@TomMurto
@TomMurto 2 жыл бұрын
afaik holes in the floor aren't allowed?
@fidjdbdjficbfk7944
@fidjdbdjficbfk7944 2 жыл бұрын
@@TomMurto Their car already has a go from the FIA, so apprently, it is allowed
@timonxDlol
@timonxDlol 2 жыл бұрын
@@TomMurto it´s a mix. Floor holes are not allowed for engine cooling. But these cooling intakes are for electronics only.
@scotthiland5521
@scotthiland5521 2 жыл бұрын
drivers best stay out of the kitty litter if that's the case.
@LJMLJM740
@LJMLJM740 2 жыл бұрын
@@scotthiland5521 they'll probably have some meshing to prevent the kitty litter actually going in to engine/electric cooling area.
@leninmercedes6567
@leninmercedes6567 2 жыл бұрын
Another informative video. Thank you
@gordonwallin2368
@gordonwallin2368 2 жыл бұрын
Good work. Cheers from the Pacific West Coast of Canada.
@temujinbonnick3796
@temujinbonnick3796 2 жыл бұрын
I have to admit, those sidepods are definelty the best looking ive ever seen
@BioFake1
@BioFake1 2 жыл бұрын
There is a microphone saturation !! :-/
@tiagogobbi3610
@tiagogobbi3610 2 жыл бұрын
Craig nailed again!! I just not understand how they will cool the engine, it seams they will use nitrogen or take some air from the botton huh? But taking air from the botton will less the pressure of Venturi effect so, it's very strange!! I don't see vertical and slim intakes since Ferrari from 80's and some cars like Williams I think?! One F1 that Barrichello drive in early 90's!! Great video as always, thanks and see you next! :))
@Matty.Hill_87
@Matty.Hill_87 2 жыл бұрын
I'm loving all this in depth analysis of what's going on
@Driver61
@Driver61 2 жыл бұрын
So do you think these sidepods will work? Will Red Bull have to copy them?
@Jonathan-mj1oe
@Jonathan-mj1oe 2 жыл бұрын
All designs are so different but i bet we will see the cars very close together anyways cause their philosophys will all result in getting the max out of the car. One way or another. I hope im wrong and we see some differences and that there will be much copying later the season tho!
@drnerd
@drnerd 2 жыл бұрын
Can callum explain why the popoising can't just be fixed by using hard bump stops to prevent the car lowering to the point of a floor stall?
@Daniboi971
@Daniboi971 2 жыл бұрын
The leak last night claimed this change gave them an extra second in the simulator. If that comes to be, it's season over. Merc are the ones to have found the 'silver bullet'. Who'd have thought....
@LeeMooEez
@LeeMooEez 2 жыл бұрын
I think it was red bull and william that gave them that inspiration 😂 Everyone thought redbull is the best at keeping their radical design a secret till the end but merc literally “let me introduce myself” 😌
@malter87
@malter87 2 жыл бұрын
rather mercedes will copy what red bull did after the first race, lmao
@bigrob966
@bigrob966 2 жыл бұрын
I don't see this working at the higher temperature tracks. There's just no way the other teams are leaving that much volume on the table.
@matthewvanrensburg3824
@matthewvanrensburg3824 2 жыл бұрын
Convenient to be testing at one of the hotter locations isnt it....
@joseluislopes3956
@joseluislopes3956 2 жыл бұрын
I mean... They are testing in Bahrain, if it isn't cool enough, they will find out. And the other teams can't just make a new car internal layout from scratch, and new parts, with a budget limit without risking the entire year
@robbienl8176
@robbienl8176 2 жыл бұрын
They have sidepods and They got 2 different cars.
@Fetaldareaper1414
@Fetaldareaper1414 2 жыл бұрын
@@joseluislopes3956 You people are forgetting that Bahrain is a desert and it gets really cold in winter, I'm sure its much cooler there now than it will be at the hotter tracks.
@kityhawk2000
@kityhawk2000 2 жыл бұрын
I assume if they thought it was such a major issue they wouldn't have manufactured this. If the last 8 years have showed anything it's that Mercedes are not a team of fools
@MichaelRBlair
@MichaelRBlair 2 жыл бұрын
Man I am just ready for some races. Can't wait!
@drnerd
@drnerd 2 жыл бұрын
Ahh, much nicer audio this time! 👍👍👍
@josephnus
@josephnus 2 жыл бұрын
Red Bull: we have made our sidepods as compact as possible Mercedes: Hold my Weißbier P.S. I thought that my phone speaker is broken while watching this video, but it's the sound of this video that's a bit crackling.
@runlarryrun77
@runlarryrun77 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that, I thought my speakers were fried or something!
@zammy7155
@zammy7155 2 жыл бұрын
They are now the perfect size for holding it
@thes7754
@thes7754 2 жыл бұрын
@@runlarryrun77 same lol
@robbienl8176
@robbienl8176 2 жыл бұрын
The Mercedes sidepods are the same in size but vertical on the body
@Bryan-fh1or
@Bryan-fh1or 2 жыл бұрын
It doesnt mean its faster
@freakgib
@freakgib 2 жыл бұрын
maybe next week when the real race starts they have bigger sidepods again it is possible? They are just testing things, maybe they test to see if this is still enough cooling.
@blusox78
@blusox78 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if it has been mentioned, but several times during todays test when the car was in the garage the mechanics plug a duct and blower into a vent underneath the car right below where the driver sits. I expect this is a cooling dust just for the battery, but I've not seen it on other cars
@rafo6303
@rafo6303 2 жыл бұрын
they been looking fine through test with cooling
@Ballacha
@Ballacha 2 жыл бұрын
i dont think they have "completely redesigned" anything. they 100% have multiple different fully fletched designs ready to be implemented with the snap of a finger.
@daveawits1
@daveawits1 2 жыл бұрын
in two minds about saying this cause I don't want to be a prick but also would appreciate being told if this was me, but I'm relatively sure you meant to say fleshed rather than fletched? derives from the buildup of the base 'skeleton' of a plan into a 'fully fleshed' (complete) system. apologies if its unwanted advice, lmk if it is and I'll remove the comment.
@beast667
@beast667 2 жыл бұрын
That seems very expensive in a time of budget caps
@Ballacha
@Ballacha 2 жыл бұрын
@@daveawits1 fledged*
@Ballacha
@Ballacha 2 жыл бұрын
@@beast667 i would say redesigning sidepods and surrounding structure in CAD making them ready to manufacture isn't that costly. the team probably have desided it's a lot cheaper amd a lot less risky than putting all your resources on one single design and praying it works.
@daveawits1
@daveawits1 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ballacha paint me dumb, you're right. can't believe I've been working on that principle most of my life and then been thoroughly hoist by my own petard. thanks for the correction though, noted and appreciated.
@bynahelemaal
@bynahelemaal 2 жыл бұрын
I love how newey is still hailed as the aero wizard, yet he hasn’t really created an aerodynamically superior car in years (in the hybrid era)! Only in 2017 was the red bull design magic, but they were plagued by Renault pu issues! Merc has consistently been creating, designing and thinking of unique and game-changing ideas, since 2014
@PbPomper
@PbPomper 2 жыл бұрын
It's mainly because they were years ahead with their power unit ever since the hybrid era. Basically all their resources could go to other areas like aero.
@dAt3q
@dAt3q 2 жыл бұрын
In 2017 RB was the 3rd best car and the aero was ruined by windtunnel issues, they were nowhere in Monaco. But yes you are right, Mercedes is the best with their cars.
@sirius9108
@sirius9108 2 жыл бұрын
Redbull said they will bring their upgrades tomorrow so we shall see what Newey's true plan is
@swiftfx6928
@swiftfx6928 2 жыл бұрын
@@dAt3q ..? They were on the podium in Monaco and qualified 4th and 5th. 3 tenths off isn't being nowhere. Red Bull have had a fantastic chassis pretty much every year in the hybrid era, but Mercedes' PU was just insane, especially 2014/15/16. Newey had some great ideas and designs, and I don't understand why everyone is so amazed by this new Mercedes. Anyone remember Jordan in the 90's? It's not like their super slim cars were front runners, so what's the hype? Did we watch the same testing? Because I saw a heavily porpoising, unstable as hell in slow corners Mercedes today, that Russel had a tough time keeping control of. Not to mention that Red Bull hasn't installed all their upgrades yet, so why are we judging so quickly? New =/ better, it's just different. Mercedes are being hyped for absolutely no reason at the moment.
@bynahelemaal
@bynahelemaal 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikko3 ferrari just as fast with porpoising, imagine if they get rid of any porpoising at all! and when the merc gets a hold of its porpoising… they’ll probably be as quick as red bull! Up until this weekend, the car was still having trouble with under and oversteer popping up at random, as well as tires graining faster than ferrari! Updates and weather conditions, might’ve helped them this weekend, but in the previous races, ferrari was better in areas where red bull has always been better at in previous years… which says a lot!
@fabinho69fs
@fabinho69fs 2 жыл бұрын
I am so hipped for what's to come now before the first race and throughout the season :)
@anupjsebastian
@anupjsebastian 2 жыл бұрын
I think they are banking on the fact that the smaller side pods will give them less drag so a slight speed increase, and so air flows through the pods at a slightly higher velocity which will move more heat away from engine. The faster velocity of air compensates for the reduced surface area. It’s a balancing game.
@CG-rb4xo
@CG-rb4xo 2 жыл бұрын
Also, fuel economy. They can run less fuel if they are using less thanks to aerodynamics. Less fuel = less weight. Less weight equals better everything.
@AageV
@AageV 2 жыл бұрын
But i've seen a video where it seems the porpoising has evolved into kangaroooing. That thing bounces.
@pali1H
@pali1H 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder of they will be allowed turning the side crash structure into a winglet.
@552MB
@552MB 2 жыл бұрын
The regulations say that the SIS can't be exposed to the airflow... but is it still the SIS if it has been enclosed by this bodywork... this, for me, is where there has to be some interpretation.
@machina_spirit
@machina_spirit 2 жыл бұрын
This is actually pretty cool, how they came to the next test with a drastically different design. Im hoping we keep seeing some drastic changes to the other teams cars through the season
@marcopicado1135
@marcopicado1135 2 жыл бұрын
Scott and what aabout the lateral wings and mirrors little difiusers......and some other winglets on the sides.......there's vosrtex issues arround?
@Sandzsteedt
@Sandzsteedt 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone rocks up with fancy schmancy wide floors that are going to get deleted in the first corners with side by side racing and wheels touching the floor edges. I reckon we are going to see loads of management races where drivers try to salvage a race with damaged floor and messed up aero.
@alastor1052
@alastor1052 2 жыл бұрын
The thing is that if you have a bite taken out of the floor on the side, that sucks, sure. However, most of your downforce is still generated through the Venturi tunnels underneath. Compared to last year where you practically say goodbye if you miss a chunk of bargeboard, these cars are much sturdier
@ndyebonkomo6603
@ndyebonkomo6603 2 жыл бұрын
Cant wait to actually see the f1 new season first race
@gabormiklay9209
@gabormiklay9209 2 жыл бұрын
In Austria (high altitude, thinner air) they had problems with cooling (2017?, 2018?), once both of their car was retired from the race, which is unusual from them.
@arposkraft3616
@arposkraft3616 2 жыл бұрын
@2:00 no i am not thinking that at all.... I would venture a guess that Mercedes has staff to check that sort of thing so who am i to then go ... ohnoes cant be done
@scotthiland5521
@scotthiland5521 2 жыл бұрын
Lets see if this concept actually works. Even though the side pods are smaller, it does look as if the engine cover has gotten bigger. Possibly a higher center of gravity if they are packing things up higher? Looking at the car's handling in todays test looks like a very antsy car and really looked like it was struggling more than most at low speed corners.
@mohammeded-dahbi7603
@mohammeded-dahbi7603 2 жыл бұрын
Well they're trying different settings, that's probably why
@Jonathan-mj1oe
@Jonathan-mj1oe 2 жыл бұрын
Are the pics at 1:55 swapped? I swear the bottom one looks to be having more floor space
@Brooks__EU
@Brooks__EU 2 жыл бұрын
Nope that is right. New Floor only has this one hoop from what I saw at testing live today. so the above picture is the W13b
@Jonathan-mj1oe
@Jonathan-mj1oe 2 жыл бұрын
@@Brooks__EU Thanks!
@GitsAsh
@GitsAsh 2 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or is there an audio issue? Great vid as always btw
@WTH1812
@WTH1812 2 жыл бұрын
How does this affect the outflow of air to the side of the car? Does it create turbulence that would make it harder to pass?
@rolandmdill
@rolandmdill 2 жыл бұрын
I love the inventiveness of the Mercedes F1 team
@rowen42069
@rowen42069 2 жыл бұрын
Wait a minute, I've seen this before
@zippo5294
@zippo5294 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a glitch in the matrice
@darmah1959
@darmah1959 2 жыл бұрын
Do the regs require water based coolant? Is there a potential to run the overall system much hotter and therefore reduce the need for overall cooling?
@jonnydavies4176
@jonnydavies4176 2 жыл бұрын
they said it was always like this in barcelona too but the pods we saw a few weeks ago were just there to cover the design undernethe
@mikegibson4900
@mikegibson4900 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the informative video. I hate to complain, but in the future, would you please show the cars for more than a couple of seconds at a time before cutting back to Scott? His commentary is very helpful, but it would be even more helpful if we could actually study the bits Scott is describing while he's talking about them. Thanks again.
@amf7650
@amf7650 2 жыл бұрын
just go back and pause?
@somat111
@somat111 2 жыл бұрын
@@amf7650 but that requires effort on the users part.... can't have that now on a free video that you can even watch in slow motion!
@garyrowe58
@garyrowe58 2 жыл бұрын
@@amf7650 Tedious. Pain in the arse.
@warrakrys
@warrakrys 2 жыл бұрын
Redbull: Less than size zero engine Mercedes: Less than size zero sidepods
@nichole4684
@nichole4684 2 жыл бұрын
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@6msrct
@6msrct 2 жыл бұрын
Thinking if they are behind a car will it cause them to overheat a little because of airflow being reduce or at a track with a lot of turns on a hot day might keep the hot air trap inside the body of the car.
@3LionsCoaching
@3LionsCoaching 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a likelihood of overheating during longer pit stops or during a long grid set up before the race?
@montyboon4127
@montyboon4127 2 жыл бұрын
If this remains part of the ruleset for the coming years, we could be looking at an evolution of the cars as we know them, if this proves successfull or dominant
@chrisbrinkley4688
@chrisbrinkley4688 2 жыл бұрын
Horner is going to be caring about fairness again
@hg60justice
@hg60justice 2 жыл бұрын
opening up the sides stops air from stalling heading out a small rear exit. you won't need such a large ram air effect to move it. the louvers on the body will draw the air through. or at least as i look at it would be my understanding of it. suck instead of blow.😁
@CuriousJet
@CuriousJet 2 жыл бұрын
Good to have Scott back
@nikhileshv
@nikhileshv 2 жыл бұрын
This looks like a WW2 fighter aircraft from the front. Maybe the other teams missed something, maybe Merc got it wrong. Let's hope for a great season ahead! :D
@PathosIFR
@PathosIFR 2 жыл бұрын
Even though I am not a merc fanboy I think it is near impossible for this to be wrong since removing drag is huge
@humanbeing_sf90
@humanbeing_sf90 Жыл бұрын
@@PathosIFR 😎
@Good_Horsey
@Good_Horsey 2 жыл бұрын
So long as no one T-bones that new Merc and goes ramping up over it. I'm really torn on this one because I love rule interpretations that carve a sizeable chunk of speed for the car, which this looks like it could... but man does it look ugly.
@theutgardianchannel1952
@theutgardianchannel1952 2 жыл бұрын
remember hubert...
@Chatta-Ortega
@Chatta-Ortega 2 жыл бұрын
My first thought was it looks fast. My second was how this new design impacts driver safety on side impacts.
@jbsavoye9360
@jbsavoye9360 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video as always. However, it is unfortunate that the pictures are not shown longer than a eye blink...
@b0om2k
@b0om2k 2 жыл бұрын
Something this design makes me wonder about is reliability. Like by having to package so many components so tightly together in a high vibration and heat environment, this could mean that the car ends up being noticeably less reliable this year than in years past.
@TheEmolano
@TheEmolano 2 жыл бұрын
It looks like they transfered some people from the road car division lol
@LongTimeAgoNL
@LongTimeAgoNL 2 жыл бұрын
Mercedes already had major heating issues each year in Austria. Looks like this is just going to add up to that, unless they figured out a way to cool more efficiently.
@PbPomper
@PbPomper 2 жыл бұрын
I'm disappointed that the FIA didn't change the stupid rule where you only get a 5 place grid penalty if you change x number of engines. It should be the other way around. A 5 place grid penalty is a yoke.
@timonxDlol
@timonxDlol 2 жыл бұрын
@@LongTimeAgoNL they have a cooling intake on the floor of the car. this is usually illegal, but only for engine cooling. they use that for electronic cooling so it´s legal. this leads to the upper intakes only needing to cool the engine itself. Other teams use the intakes to cool engine and electronics. Mercedes outsourced that electronics cooling to the ground.
@adrianhunte6014
@adrianhunte6014 2 жыл бұрын
Having to follow behind another car could be an issue for the cooling. But only time will tell.
@theboxingicons8429
@theboxingicons8429 2 жыл бұрын
maybe they dont plan on being behind another car lol can see it being like 2014 etc where they blew the rest of the field away, but i know what your saying
@CristanioPeweyyy
@CristanioPeweyyy 2 жыл бұрын
They know what they are doing.
@KCM25NJL
@KCM25NJL 2 жыл бұрын
Unlikely, as the air flow should be largely undisturbed..... or at least less dirty. That said if all goes well with the design, they might not be following for long
@chicobicalho5621
@chicobicalho5621 2 жыл бұрын
Funny to see Ross Brawn tiptoeing around this prickly issue, for when he had the chance to stretch and worp the rules in 2009, there was no hesitation on the BGP 001 double diffuser. Since I only know the basics about these new regulations, it will be interesting to see how it unfolds. But if Charles Cooper and Colin Chapman had been forbidden from introducing new ideas, F1 would have been slow to change. I hope these Mercedes sidepods are allowed.
@eucri
@eucri 2 жыл бұрын
The engineers at Mercedes are something else!
@Daniboi971
@Daniboi971 2 жыл бұрын
If that has actually given them a whole second, as the leaks say (from the sim), it's season over already. They've done it again
@nismo3871
@nismo3871 2 жыл бұрын
Oh dear
@10acious32
@10acious32 2 жыл бұрын
It sucks that they legit have the smartest people in the industry on their payroll. But I can't complain too much since it's the porpoise of the spot.
@jamtalawah2231
@jamtalawah2231 2 жыл бұрын
@@10acious32 You forget that some of Mercedes people moved to Red Bull last season. I am curious to know where they ended up.
@nik7bkh965
@nik7bkh965 2 жыл бұрын
@@10acious32 dont forget that they also have the best sims, best technology, newest facilities etc etc.
@10acious32
@10acious32 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamtalawah2231honestly, if they really wanted them, they'd still have them.
@arnenap4028
@arnenap4028 2 жыл бұрын
Lets hope if it overpowered they have a lot times overheated engines so there will not that much dominance
@Zion7z
@Zion7z 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video …
@hectortoledo6595
@hectortoledo6595 2 жыл бұрын
They are crazy man!
@marionette5968
@marionette5968 2 жыл бұрын
Your audio is way over-modulated in this video. I think you missed a normalization setting.
@freakysquirrel7218
@freakysquirrel7218 2 жыл бұрын
Even if they can cool the engine well, Mexico will be a challenge considering the altitude
@MouseNightshirt
@MouseNightshirt 2 жыл бұрын
There appear to some shots of the car having air scoops in the floor - are Merc sacrificing air under the car to cool their package?
@ChrisBLong
@ChrisBLong 2 жыл бұрын
Could they be using the low pressure zone under the car to suck more air through the side pods? Is the floor allowed to have holes in it? I guess that would weaken the downforce, but the benefits might outweight the costs...
@biggabenne
@biggabenne 2 жыл бұрын
I am curious how much engine heat is reduced simply from less load due to improved aerodynamics. If significant, this could be the reason Mercedes can scale down their cooling system.
@CG-rb4xo
@CG-rb4xo 2 жыл бұрын
Also, smaller inlets mean faster flowing air. It might not matter
@johnsim3722
@johnsim3722 2 жыл бұрын
Also very wise to move more critical systems in-board away from being damaged when Max Verstappen rams the car.
@drxpsaucx4157
@drxpsaucx4157 2 жыл бұрын
Looks gnarly
@peterruiz6117
@peterruiz6117 2 жыл бұрын
Great rundown, as usual....But, the car looks like it has been rolled, after hitting a wall. I understand the money aspect,in an allout sport...But I am not thrilled on how F1 cars look. I love the older days, though I would not wish the dangers on any driver. I just wonder if better looks and performance (down force) could not coincide....Aircraft can look very beautiful....
@mrn8032
@mrn8032 2 жыл бұрын
Cant wait for 10 more years of domination..
@nunosilva716
@nunosilva716 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how long will it take for RB to complain.
@leebutler9470
@leebutler9470 2 жыл бұрын
They did immediately. Or at least horner did
@kevin-lb9in
@kevin-lb9in 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikko3 they did, karen bursted out tears immediately getting his weener all soft because he know masi cant make them champion again
@justinharrison9521
@justinharrison9521 2 жыл бұрын
Would that minimal ramped sidepod mean there’s an increased likelihood of a car riding up if there’s contact from a front or rear wheel? The wheels are taller now so the sidepod would need to be higher for the wheel contact to bounce off.
@beamoth
@beamoth 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a regulation on the type of fluid used to cool an engine ?
@m4rt1n66
@m4rt1n66 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like its gonna be another boring era with mercedes being 1sec faster than everyone
@Duuk_the_Dog
@Duuk_the_Dog 2 жыл бұрын
car doesn't seem to handle very well compared to others
@prakharjain21
@prakharjain21 2 жыл бұрын
I think you're in the past at the start of the hybrid era XD
@HuskyKyurem
@HuskyKyurem 2 жыл бұрын
So basically, Mercedes is just the iPhone of the F1 World. Every other team will either follow or drop
@golfpro5502
@golfpro5502 2 жыл бұрын
It looks like what side pods they have(merc) will shred others teams tires if they get close?
@chrisgilleard
@chrisgilleard 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds much better!
@MetalHeadReacts
@MetalHeadReacts 2 жыл бұрын
That thing is hideous... Here's hoping it totally messes up their cooling and we see them fall to the back of the midfield this year.
@honey_badger2931
@honey_badger2931 2 жыл бұрын
And i hope your Ferrari goes back to be a back marker just like in 2020.
@MetalHeadReacts
@MetalHeadReacts 2 жыл бұрын
@@honey_badger2931 My Ferrari? I don't like Ferrari either. I'm a McLaren man, always have been. I just want to see Mercedes get their ego taken down a notch, they are the most entitled team on the grid and it's about time they got put in their place.
@honey_badger2931
@honey_badger2931 2 жыл бұрын
@@MetalHeadReacts if you're taking about ego that's Ferrari's other name they think they are god of f1. On the other hand merc is the most sporting team on the grid. And yeah i love McLaren since the McLaren merc days
@dormantat
@dormantat 2 жыл бұрын
What is the metal trellis you see in some photos? Looks like the Mercedes’ got stuck in a fence and they had to cut it out.
@oes2546
@oes2546 9 ай бұрын
I really wish these had worked at a very similar level of performance to RBs concept. We would have had 2 exiting seasons, with two completely different designs competing as well. I do wonder if Merc could have made it work with an unlimited budget again, or more aero testing and simulation. Because it was a better design in theory, that just wouldn't work properly in practice. And it still remains an open quesiton if it could have been possible to make it work. Although, all we got to know in the end was that it seemingly wasn't, and it's gone. It was interesting to for once again have a truly unique-looking car on the grid for a while. Shame they couldn't get it to work IMO.
@anonymoususer1824
@anonymoususer1824 2 жыл бұрын
The problem is how will this perform in traffic? If they are in a train or racing behind a car is there an increase is threat of overheating? I think they brought their extreme minimal side pod design to testing but the actual design will be 15-20% larger come the first race.
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