Merino Wool is Overrated!

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A detailed comparison between merino wool and synthetic base layers for outdoor hiking and hunting clothing.

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@WomenHitTheWall
@WomenHitTheWall 9 ай бұрын
Merino Wool is not Overrated; it is CORRECTLY RATED. Since I bought my first Merino Wool Sweater in 2017, I have replaced all my wardrobe with Merino Wool (T-shirts, Sweaters, Socks, Shirts, Beanies, Gloves, Pants, and Jackets). Merino is expensive, but I spend money for Longevity to save thousands of dollars on clothes and washing. Since all of my wardrobe are of wool, I wash my clothes once every 3 weeks. People say they have had holes in their Merino for 2-3 weeks. That was so wrong. All of my clothes I used for daily activities (working, camping, hiking, and traveling); I only experience 1-2 holes in my T-shirts from hiking due to scratches from trees and bushes. The clothing's durability depends on the owners. If you buy a Toyota Pick-up Truck and never maintain or take care of it, it will break overtime.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 9 ай бұрын
It's so overrated! Expensive, heavy, takes forever to dry, and it's not durable at all. I've got $20 fleece shirts from 1995 that are in better shape than 3 year old ice breaker merino shirts.
@brianbassett4379
@brianbassett4379 8 ай бұрын
You learned about the advantages through experience... the kid doesn't have any yet.
@solb101
@solb101 8 ай бұрын
Wool is renewable, temperature regulating, warm when wet, hardwearing, soft, quiet, fireproof and lightweight unless your a weakling or like plastic that stinks, makes you sweat, burns, pills and tears, and pollutes the ocean. There are many types of wool which are easy to repair and not so expensive and they’re all wonderful.
@123ChrisG
@123ChrisG 7 ай бұрын
@@solb101 that’s a misconception, fleece is actually warmer than wool when wet. And it dries in a tenth of the time which means the duration of cold exposure will far less. It’s a no brainier synthetic wins in any wet and cold type scenario.
@solb101
@solb101 7 ай бұрын
@@123ChrisG fleece will never keep you warm like wool when it’s wet and you’ll sweat and stink in that plastic anyway. Sailors, soldiers and fishermen wore wool for centuries. I wear wool in wet winter and don’t get soaked or weighed down. I’ve even worn cotton over wool and kept dry. I do sometimes wear a synthetic waterproof with pit vents but still overheat and sweat unless it’s very cold and then I keep wool underneath. Synthetics can fail in relentless downpours but they’re cheap to produce that’s all.
@WillWilliam-ys1rn
@WillWilliam-ys1rn 8 ай бұрын
Marino all the way for me. I've tried them all in my 49 years of cycling, hiking, running, mountain climbing. Had some good synthetics but nothing ever comes close to Marino for me.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 8 ай бұрын
Can't stand it myself
@mj-cd9lk
@mj-cd9lk 8 ай бұрын
@@shuswapoutdoors my only criticism with it is that’s is so expensive. I’m glad you’ve found something that works for you buddy 😊
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 8 ай бұрын
Expensive and not durable.
@colton5bucks
@colton5bucks 5 ай бұрын
No one asked​@@shuswapoutdoors
@grayssoncarl5020
@grayssoncarl5020 5 ай бұрын
@@shuswapoutdoors Some of them are quite durable like the Varusteleka L1 baselayer. I prefer a 80/20 blend because you still get the same advantages as full merino but a lot more durability.
@andersjankov7178
@andersjankov7178 2 ай бұрын
In the Norwegian Army there is a saying that goes something like «flis er for kalde amerikanere» basically “synthetics are for cold Americans” in Norway we use wool(not just merino) and mesh. We’ve been dealing with the cold for hundreds of years before the us was discovered. Synthetics are great, until you fall in a river or get hit with some ice rain. After that you will be begging for some wool. When US marines come to Norway to learn winter survival they usually borrow Norwegian gear after the under ice portion of training.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 2 ай бұрын
And who has the superior army? Lol 😆
@andersjankov7178
@andersjankov7178 2 ай бұрын
@@shuswapoutdoors well id say there is a reason the Americans send their soldiers to Norway once a year to learn from us. Very few nations beat Norway, Sweden and Finland in winter combat. Definitely not the Americans.
@jonvanwyk2026
@jonvanwyk2026 Ай бұрын
US Marine here. I'm from the northern Midwest. Your winters are not any colder than ours (-40C). While your winters are longer, I learned my cold weather survival by virtue of living it. That said.... The youtuber that made this video is out of his mind. Merino Wool FTW!!!
@andersjankov7178
@andersjankov7178 Ай бұрын
@@jonvanwyk2026 i know you have some winter. Ive lived in the US, your winter some how feel warmer. I meant no disrespect to the marines tho, always fun to have you guys in town. I remember when I was a child and the marines would come to my small town in the north every year. Find memories.
@JimLBon
@JimLBon Ай бұрын
@@shuswapoutdoors what a lame response. Grow up. Further more, go pick a random Army base to visit. Go look at our infantry units. Fat. Sick. These are not fit men ready to make war. Physical standards lowered to accommodate ‘inclusivity.’ Bet if you go to a Norwegian base you’ll see fit men who look like they are ready to make war, who have a sense of national pride and take their role seriously. I’m not happy about it, but superior? The only thing worse than being a smart aleck for the sake of being a smart aleck is being delusional and a smart aleck. Now let’s everyone pull out our dicks and wave them around for comparison’s sake like a bunch of sophisticated Starbucks clientele.
@Mike-vd2qt
@Mike-vd2qt Жыл бұрын
At 70 and longtime outdoorsman, I feel both fabrics have a niche where they work best. Cold temps from 10 deg to -10 deg without a lot of physical work then wool is your friend as they say here in Colorado. And if your trip, hunt, adventure is shorter term wool has many benefits. In warmer temps ranging to cool and wet, then polyester shines. I've been in a steady rain all day at 45 deg, sopping wet, pulled my poly off, wrung it out, then kept moving to avoid danger. At 95 deg I've cycled across the American west with thin long sleeve 100% poly shirts and stayed cool, they dry in minutes. Sopping wet, 100% poly will dry on your body, you can wash it out at the end of a hose then hang it in a tree. I've even showered with polyester clothes on then dried out in the sun. Make sure your polyester clothes do not have any Spandex, Elastane, or Lycra because these fibers at 8-10% or more of the total will make the poly clothing hot and sticky, plus they dry slower. Nike and UnderArmor clothes often use Spandex, or Lycra for stretch. That is one reason why Patagonia wear is more expensive for their polyester clothing because they don't use stretch additives, they get the stretch from the weaving process. Another positive for wool, however, is the wider temp range that you feel comfortable. You can leave it on longer without peeling a layer, and push it colder without adding a layer. With polyester that wet/hot thing happens faster, and maybe it is a little more fuss with poly to keep your temp dialed. Absolutely agree with you on once wool is sopping wet, you might as well call it quits and head indoors if you can. Nice video, good stuff, happy trails!
@setshootstrike6147
@setshootstrike6147 11 ай бұрын
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@setshootstrike6147 11 ай бұрын
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@wherezthebeef
@wherezthebeef 7 ай бұрын
Excellent points, could not have said it better. His point in the video are 100% valid and having said that I completely disagree with the title of his video.. for me my Merino 'investments' fit me perfectly, but there as so many variables and also personalities, likes, dislikes, preferences.. priorities... that's why both syntetics, blends, Merino sales are booming. Something for everyone, Vive le difference, that's why there's chocolate and vanilla 🙂
@TYMGhosT
@TYMGhosT 5 ай бұрын
@@wherezthebeefonly one side is upset and it’s the merino wool fan club. Investment? You must be very new to the material. Expect to invest much more and very soon if you wear it regularly. It’s the most niche material I can think of and outside of that own thing it excels at its snake oil. That’s just factual when you put loyalty and feelings aside.
@drewmcginn3422
@drewmcginn3422 Жыл бұрын
Great video thanks for your input. Seems to be a common thing for backpackers to like the synthetics more. I’m new to hunting so I’ll be experimenting with both. So far my merino socks I tried today were amazing.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Thanks Drew. Darn tough Merino socks are the best!
@LesParker-qx9xs
@LesParker-qx9xs 6 ай бұрын
I've never had any problems with Icebreaker merino wool,the only con is the durability, but all the pros negate that ,the only thing I don't like is Icebreaker seems to be getting away from the mostly merino content ,putting too much organic cotton or tencil in there product
@rohitiyer230
@rohitiyer230 8 ай бұрын
I noticed my Merino Tech shirt has a hole after just one wear. What synthetic brands do you recommend for base and mid layer for extreme cold?
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 8 ай бұрын
I always wear a thin shirt next to my skin. Something that will wick the moisture away from my skin fast. Then I like to go with thicker fleece Overtop. I have a few different options depending on how cold it is. I like helly hansen, and Stanfields.
@Tip_Of_The_Rod_Productions
@Tip_Of_The_Rod_Productions Жыл бұрын
My merino wool long underwear definitely has a hole or two in em. However I can't handle the sweating with synthetic, at least for right on my skin - so sweaty. Socks are probably the most noticeable. Costco had an 80% merino wool base layer long sleeve shirt last year I picked up a few for 25$. I also like the synthetic sweater they get in the fall. It's 20-25$ and crazy warm - does the same thing as a Patagonia fleece which is almost 200$.
@TealJosh
@TealJosh Жыл бұрын
My recommendation is to shelve the old ones, buy new ones and then later use the old ones to patch holes in the new ones.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Lol...
@Tip_Of_The_Rod_Productions
@Tip_Of_The_Rod_Productions Жыл бұрын
@@TealJosh They're still wearable condition but yes I should probably pick up a new pair. I'll be sticking with wool myself.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors Жыл бұрын
It can be a it of a comfort issue next to skin, but something I'd rather deal with over the negatives of merino
@ryaniam22
@ryaniam22 Жыл бұрын
I think unfortunately the lightweight merino is super fragile. I only buy 300 gram per meter merino anymore because anything less just doesn't last.
@rayperkperk
@rayperkperk 3 ай бұрын
I just got a Merino long sleeve shirt and an Alpaca Sun Hoodie. The hoodie seems to retain a wet dog smell even when dry. Although its pretty stout smell when wet. Have you had any issues with your wool gear smelling like wet dog when you get it wet or sweat?
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 3 ай бұрын
Nope, I haven't had an issue like that. Have you washed it?
@rayperkperk
@rayperkperk 3 ай бұрын
@@shuswapoutdoorsI did yeah. After wearing it for a while the smell faded. It’s still kinda there but hopefully after time it will be gone for good:)
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 3 ай бұрын
That sucks. Never seen that before
@RomyArms
@RomyArms 3 ай бұрын
It's wool. It came off an animal, it will smell a little when wet. Even when the wool is treated it will smell
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 3 ай бұрын
I've never experienced that before
@Sibhusky
@Sibhusky 9 ай бұрын
I've found I need to store my wool in plastic or a bag if I'm not actively wearing it due to closet moths. They just love it! Since I started doing that, the little pin holes have stopped appearing.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 9 ай бұрын
Great tip!
@bdmenne
@bdmenne 7 ай бұрын
They make mesh bags for them to store and keep fresh. Hard no air leads to other problems
@gingebrien2408
@gingebrien2408 5 ай бұрын
You’re smarter than the average bear. But I guess they don’t tell you young folk things anymore. Any old timer knows you got to put your wool in sealed bags for storage.
@mortentoftdal4117
@mortentoftdal4117 9 ай бұрын
If you layer your merino properly and wear some of the high quality brands dry time is superior to synthetics. Also i have never had any problems with durability not even the ones i have been using in the military for years. Would never go to wearing 100 percent synthetics as a baselayer.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 9 ай бұрын
It's impossible for merino to dry faster than synthetics. You loose all credibility when you say silly things....
@mortentoftdal4117
@mortentoftdal4117 8 ай бұрын
@@shuswapoutdoors not at all also synthetics have a hard time absorbing moisture in the vapor state wool can. Have you ever tried doing a wet hang dry test with wool and synthetic ?
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 8 ай бұрын
I use real world tests. Synthetics will dry out 10x faster than wool from body heat alone as Synthetic fibers don't absorb water and wool does.
@mortentoftdal4117
@mortentoftdal4117 8 ай бұрын
@@shuswapoutdoors must be some really shitty synthetic baselayers i have then 😂
@solb101
@solb101 8 ай бұрын
@@shuswapoutdoorsif synthetics don’t absorb water then they wouldn’t get wet at all and they wouldn’t need drying at all. If its warm enough you will dry out whatever clothes you are wearing once the sun comes out. But you’ll freeze to death if you fall in a cold river before you have chance to dry out in synthetics.
@davidbrouwers7309
@davidbrouwers7309 8 ай бұрын
The reason synthetic can feel like "wearing a plastic bag" is because it is plastic. Look up what polyester actually is and how it's made. I do get you on the pros and cons, merino is expensive, low on durability and takes long to dry. It's also not as odor resistant as some claim. I need to was a shirt every other day or so, both my 100% and 70% shirts. Merino is more environmental friendly compared to synthetic, has better body heat control and for me feels better on the skin than synthetic. My 70% merino shirts from Decathlon dry quick and feel comfortable. I'm gonna do a bit of a stress test on them to see how long I can wear them without stinking. Hand wash drying is within a day so seems like it's the best of both worlds. I guess we all have to make our decisions weighing our own pros and cons in the matter.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info
@wherezthebeef
@wherezthebeef 7 ай бұрын
Interesting and valid point from your perspective and experiences. I've used both extensively and and hugely into Merino wool , mostly blends, it just works better for me. I think it's an individual preference and what works best after a fair test of both. I have friends who do much better with their synthetics, more comfortable for them and they have faith in their choice. Same for me and a few friends in the Merino camp. No. one benefit for me is temperature regulation and better when wet, for Merino.. as well as odor. That's huge for me but might not be as important for some. Tks. for the video, your points are valid. I'll stick with my Merino, I save my $$ and know total cost of ownership is more, worth it to me.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 7 ай бұрын
Great points! Thanks for sharing!
@drewmcginn3422
@drewmcginn3422 Жыл бұрын
Do these socks hold up? You’d think so
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors Жыл бұрын
They are the best socks out there, and they will replace them with no hassle. I've done it multiple times and they have always sent me a new pair
@f.goossens8118
@f.goossens8118 7 ай бұрын
I love merino wool, and have most of my base layers in a merino/silk mix. However, I've found I have to wear synthetics most often (we're in northern Sweden. Temps here last week got to minus thirty celsius, so we need to be warm) simply because the wool itches. I don't care how much the marketing claims it's itch free...for those of us with skin that wool seemingly hates, it isn't. Which is a shame as tbh, I don't like using synthetics. But I caved and use them with wool over the top as a mid or outer layer, rather than spend my days scratching like a flea bitten hound. :/
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 7 ай бұрын
Lol, for sure! I wanted to love wool, but there are too many downsides for my liking. I've never had wool that makes me itch!
@solb101
@solb101 6 ай бұрын
Wear cotton underwear
@ArimaSenne1
@ArimaSenne1 3 ай бұрын
In norway don't they have Mesh? it's better than synthetic or wool
@jonwenner5675
@jonwenner5675 5 ай бұрын
What are your thoughts on an alpaca base layer for posting up in a treestand for whitetail in November?
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 5 ай бұрын
If your stand hunting, wool/natural materials are fine
@investmentgammler4550
@investmentgammler4550 Ай бұрын
What about cotton and hemp?
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors Ай бұрын
Also garbage in the mountains ⛰️
@ryanhell8389
@ryanhell8389 4 ай бұрын
You guys with holes are you using wool safe detergents, and the prescribed amount? Excessive detergent literally eats fabrics within months of weekly washes. I also think there’s a lot to be said regarding the type of garments we are comparing. Thin under clothes vs light sweater. The famous timeless classic fisherman sweater is what I am head over heals for. I have a few and accumulate more as quality ones surface. Synthetic base layer undershirts and pants, with merino wool sweater and pants. You won’t ever need anything else outdoors. .
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 4 ай бұрын
Another BS statement. Detergent eats away wool? Lol.
@hobbybaschtler7896
@hobbybaschtler7896 4 ай бұрын
You have to check the enzymes in your detergent. Modern detergents have them, because you actually want to wash away/eat away the organic dirt. If the shirt is organic too, it can be slowly "eaten" by the enzymes.
@shanebrowning8862
@shanebrowning8862 3 ай бұрын
I don’t use detergent to wash my laundry. Prob solved.
@hobbybaschtler7896
@hobbybaschtler7896 2 ай бұрын
@@shanebrowning8862 Water doesn't dissolve oils, fats and the odours that go with them. But you do you, in many cases I agree that we use too much soap/detergents for washing and "hygiene".
@danakolpin1289
@danakolpin1289 Жыл бұрын
Unbound Merino Wool is the best. I inves5ed in the Unbound Merino Wool Women's Capsule Wardrobe and I have invested in different pieces from Unbound Merino Wool. They carry alof of Men's clothes.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Never heard of it
@disneytoysr4fun975
@disneytoysr4fun975 11 ай бұрын
My shirt from them had tons of holes in it
@KingdomFTX
@KingdomFTX Ай бұрын
@@disneytoysr4fun975Did it really? What did you do about that?
@d.Cog420
@d.Cog420 2 ай бұрын
I think it is a bit overrated but it's still better, particularly for comfort and lack of smell. Just being able to wear the same clothes for days without reeking makes it worthwhile. Not sure what the hardcore mountaineer uses but for the casual hiker and motorbike tourer it's easily merino. Just watch out for moths in your closet.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 2 ай бұрын
I guess for casuals it's OK. But if I'm on a 10 day backpack trip, I could really care less what I smell like. Usually campfire smoke
@enki354
@enki354 6 ай бұрын
Could it be you have holes in the wool because of moths? Maybe you should try using mothballs.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 6 ай бұрын
Nope, wear holes from use.
@enki354
@enki354 6 ай бұрын
Ok just wanted to know. I hope I don't get holes.@@shuswapoutdoors
@d.Cog420
@d.Cog420 2 ай бұрын
Mine from moths, the little bastards. Took out an expensive merino t-shirt :(
@brianbassett4379
@brianbassett4379 9 ай бұрын
It's great when the kids start voicing their _uninformed_ opinions. *"In wool garments, keratin acts as insulation for your body. Wool also continues to keep you warm even if it gets wet. Wool can soak up to 30% of its weight in moisture without feeling damp. This means that wool can keep you warm even in the harshest climates."* Many synthetics retain some loft when wet but not as well as wool. Synthetics also allow bacteria to grow, so sweat and body oils, which build up inside synthetic fabrics will cause a literal stink. Now... go outside and play, kid.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 9 ай бұрын
I base my opinion on real-life experiences. You keyboard warriors need to step outside once in a while, and you might learn something. But thanks for watching!
@brianbassett4379
@brianbassett4379 9 ай бұрын
@@shuswapoutdoors Son... I have wool sweaters older than you are that have seen use on 5 continents, and probably a wider variety of synthetic wicking garments also. And, I'm positive that I've been outside more than you have for the last 10 years... but you keep talking, you seem to love the sound of your own voice. Oh, and BTW I didn't watch the video, it's not necessary when the entire premise of the low-grade infomercial is wrong. Let me use the words of "real experts". *_Merino wool offers numerous advantages: It provides good insulation, transports moisture, and has anti-static properties; it doesn't itch, smell, or crease much; it is lightweight and keeps its shape. And it does all this in a completely natural and sustainable way._* Maybe it's just that you can't afford to use it?
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 9 ай бұрын
Not sure if riding bikes on paved roads counts....
@brianbassett4379
@brianbassett4379 9 ай бұрын
@@shuswapoutdoors Of course you're not, Pumpkin, but 48K miles and multiple thousands of hours over the last 8 years speak for themselves. It's *a* bike, kid, not multiple. You give it time, you'll grow up someday and have *well-informed* opinions... maybe you'll even get some Dyneema too.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 9 ай бұрын
LoL
@bdmenne
@bdmenne 7 ай бұрын
Synthetic is pretty awesome in the heat, keeping cool, wicking water away. I do hate how it amplifies B.O., but washes and dries FAST. Biggest fear is being caught in a house fire and now I have plastic melted into my flesh. Thanks for that synthetic recommendation that decreases odor.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 7 ай бұрын
You'll have bigger things to worry about if your shirt is melted to your flesh.....
@wherezthebeef
@wherezthebeef 7 ай бұрын
@@shuswapoutdoors LOL I had exactly that thought but got a chuckle out his 'biggest fear', LOL
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 7 ай бұрын
I'm a career fire fighter, so I've heard this and seen this before, even with the clothing we wear under our gear, but once again, you're going to have way bigger problems than melted synthetics
@overindulgent
@overindulgent 6 ай бұрын
I find synthetic layers best for when I'm carrying a pack and actually hiking. Take them off when camp is setup so they can dry and put on my merino layers for camp wear.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 6 ай бұрын
Good idea, but I never pack spare clothing
@overindulgent
@overindulgent 6 ай бұрын
@@shuswapoutdoors understood. I'm finalizing gear for a March start AT thru hike. I want to make sure I have something warm and dry to put on at camp each night.
@dano1234v
@dano1234v 6 ай бұрын
I like that people like polyester it’s supports the oil patch, made with petroleum
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 6 ай бұрын
Lol!
@johngagliardi8753
@johngagliardi8753 7 ай бұрын
Synthetic and wool same difference. I like the wool because it doesn’t stink as much. I use a synthetic next to my skin and a mid weight wool base layer on top, sometimes the other way around. I rather be wet with synthetics in the short term because wool takes forever to dry. Key is the wicking action of whatever material is closest to your skin as well as allowing that water vapor to escape . Wool is good for long static operations, synthetic for intense activity, knowing you’ll change them out at the end of the day.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 7 ай бұрын
Some great points John
@feeseize9569
@feeseize9569 6 ай бұрын
Try linen on your skin. Wicks like NOTHING else and wool on top will pull the water out. Linen dries far quicker than anything else I’ve tried against the skin. Wool on top of linen has made me a believer.
@feeseize9569
@feeseize9569 6 ай бұрын
Before you think I’m into that “holy garments” and “frequency of fabrics” nuttiness, I’m not at all, just something I came across by accident doing medieval reenactment.
@johngagliardi8753
@johngagliardi8753 6 ай бұрын
Interesting. I’ll try that.
@tommysoderholm8305
@tommysoderholm8305 2 ай бұрын
I like how it doesnt smell and is a bit fire retardant. Polyester just melts. Wools only downfall is it being a bit fragile and maybe the weight. As a base layer its a must for me. Socks, long johns, longsleeve, liner gloves, buff and watch cap are all wool in my lineup.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 2 ай бұрын
Socks and nothing else
@pedroclaro7822
@pedroclaro7822 7 ай бұрын
150 for a shirt? Gotta go decathlon or something else brother. I bought a Chinese base layer for 30. Pretty darn good. But skill/knowledge trumps materials. I learned with someone to use one shirt under a windbreaker while sweating, and swap it out when I get to camp. One dry one sweaty shirt. Windbreaker/raincoat dries really quick. I think I learned this from Justin Outdoors? Changed my outdoors experience though. No puffy while exercising. Gotta be cold at first and exercise warms us up. Otherwise we sweat a lot, then remove a layer and we’re the sweat over-cools us, so we put it back on. Exhausting. Temps here don’t go bellow -5C, but I have gotten away with that technique so far.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 7 ай бұрын
Great info, and thanks for watching
@1aliveandwell
@1aliveandwell 5 ай бұрын
Merino or wool (for outer shirts and pants, jackets... are awesome. Some holes can be caused by cloth moth larvae or carpet beetle larvae. I forgot to wash and put in a drawer and found multiple holes next season !!(ugh).. Synthetic feels icky to me and can smell me 10' away.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 5 ай бұрын
Not for me
@baatyr9430
@baatyr9430 5 ай бұрын
Just simply hand-wash
@drewmcginn3422
@drewmcginn3422 Жыл бұрын
How did you know lol that’s the brand I bought.
@huntarama9375
@huntarama9375 Ай бұрын
I wore a merino top for the whole of the coved lockdown and I have 20 year old merino tops still as good as new so its clear all merino is not equal. The cheapest stuff Ive bought is still going strong after 20 years
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching
@KingdomFTX
@KingdomFTX Ай бұрын
What brand do you use that lasts that long?
@calholli
@calholli 5 ай бұрын
I worked outside all my life and I never understood everyone's infatuation with wicking sweat. If you're sweating, you're doing it wrong. I always wore coveralls where I can open the side legs and let the air come in.. and I can even take off my coat and let my top breathe that way. Set a pace to what matches your clothing- and change your layers to match your pace. It's not difficult. You might feel like you're taking things off and on a lot-- but it works much better than being overdressed and sweating and then hoping that your space age clothing is going to fix your mistake and wick it away. It's just a strange concept to me... Another thing that really helps with regulating temperature and sweating, etc.. is a Neck Warmer.. basically just an open top beanie cap that you can slip down over your neck; as you get too hot, you can slip it up onto your head just like a normal beanie covering your ears, etc. and as that gets too hot, you can slip it back down to the neck: letting your head air out so that it doesn't sweat. Just learning to adjust your clothing along the way is the key; and because of that, I can make just about any material work as long as it doesn't feel like a trash bag and not breathing. So because of that, I tend to avoid polyester completely if I can; I'd rather have cotton and just make sure I watch my pace and never sweat-- and strip down as I said, when needed. I have some heavy sheepskin coats and also some old gortex coat that seems to do well........... but if you MUST go with all this fancy stuff-- get it on sale or from t3mu or aIixbpr3zz and you can get this stuff for nearly nothing.. I grabbed several 85% merino wool socks for under three dollars per pair... You dont' have to spend twenty five per pair and eighty dollar shirts to get good stuff.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 5 ай бұрын
Great info
@moradelbusefi1690
@moradelbusefi1690 9 ай бұрын
Synthetics win every time if your goal is not to avoid aerosal and transdermal toxins and carcinogens
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 9 ай бұрын
Just like the chemicals they use to soften ad dye merino wool
@moradelbusefi1690
@moradelbusefi1690 8 ай бұрын
@@shuswapoutdoors 1- the wool fiber itself isn't a concoction of petroleum byproducts, so you are not inhaling plastic dust all day. 2- check out ARMADILLO MERINO USA 3- If the benefits are worth the effort, find any of the countless small mom-and-pop operations who care about sourcing their raw materials.
@par3caddy
@par3caddy 2 ай бұрын
Thank you.very thorough. If I have to wear synthetic, i wear merino underneath or especially Silk!![ Think Hawaiian shirts], just because it feels SO good, better on the skin! I can still thrift brand new wool and even cashmere on the cheap, becuz NoOne Knows!!!! Moreover, I'm just now learning that wool/ poly blends are the ticket!! By the click bait I thought this would be merino hate.😂 My raincoat is synthetic
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 2 ай бұрын
Good insight! Thanks for watching
@MiguelMartinez-hm9wk
@MiguelMartinez-hm9wk Ай бұрын
I like this video. I don't agree with the conclusion but the points are fair and you bring up great points that I didn't consider. Excellent work!!
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors Ай бұрын
Cheers 🍻, and thanks for watching
@standingbear998
@standingbear998 6 ай бұрын
the key isn't the word merino but how much wool is in it. I prefer wool.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 6 ай бұрын
Merino is so overrated
@GruntProof
@GruntProof 5 ай бұрын
Outstanding
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 5 ай бұрын
Cheers
@honkymonkey9568
@honkymonkey9568 6 ай бұрын
All I care about is what will keep me the warmest. I don't sweat much but I'm very cold-natured. Haven't been able to find the answer to this question yet.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 6 ай бұрын
Down....
@Learningthetruth7
@Learningthetruth7 7 ай бұрын
Synthetic holds body odor.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 7 ай бұрын
The one small downside
@Rastegarmma
@Rastegarmma 4 ай бұрын
@@shuswapoutdoorsmassive downside good sir
@Brunzy1970
@Brunzy1970 8 ай бұрын
Every synthetic i own/owned has burn holes and it wasnt from a big cherry or something. They just melted away into a huge hole. The smell is a bigger issue than you touched on, they flat out stink after just one outing!
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 8 ай бұрын
First off, stop sitting so close to the fire. Secondly, who cares if you stink? You're in nature, I don't think the animals' minds. And by all the burn holes you have, you probably smell like smoke anyway! 😃
@Punisher9419
@Punisher9419 6 ай бұрын
I like normal wool more then merino but for a base layer merino is better just because it's softer on the skin. Synthetics are good but they stink if you need to wear them long term without washing and they melt and burn easily when near fires.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 6 ай бұрын
I'm not worried about a little bit of stink from synthetics. Helps keep the bugs away....
@jjualvare
@jjualvare 3 ай бұрын
I listen to people on the internet about how great merino wool is, so I bought two merino wool t-shirts from different companies. Felt good and comfortable and it was expensive. After a year my $160 dollar t-shirts self destructed with holes and the shirts were then of no use. Looking for something new in the way of low maintenance shirts for my trips.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 3 ай бұрын
I had the same experience. Feels great, but the durability isn't there, especially for the price
@dano1234v
@dano1234v 6 ай бұрын
Merino socks are the only kind I wear now, if you have sweaty feet try them
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 6 ай бұрын
Darn tough merino socks are fantastic
@danboyd6180
@danboyd6180 8 ай бұрын
You got me with drum vs sheep 🐑 intro
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 8 ай бұрын
Thanks
@majesticbob884
@majesticbob884 4 ай бұрын
For me personally I love to use alpaca wool. But I use the wool as a base layer or a mid layer. But I never order 100 percent wool, I like the combination of 80/20 tencel 20% and wool 80% or nylon 40% and wool 60%. Companies I recommend is Paka and Appalachian Gear company.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info
@TYMGhosT
@TYMGhosT 5 ай бұрын
Not only is it over rated. It actually sucks. The price to performance isn’t there. The material itself is the soy boy of clothing material. I had a base layer tear a hole after 3 wears and all I do is tuck it in. Stop over paying for something that is obsolete and also well known for having bad practices when it comes to the animals themselves. Glad someone finally said it. Merino sucks!!!! Was starting to think every KZfaqr was being paid to glow about it.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 5 ай бұрын
For sure, I wanted to like merino, but I just couldn't!
@RobCardIV
@RobCardIV 4 ай бұрын
if those old wool shirts are just going to rott in your closer, im not ashamed to make my main goto clothes old used stretched out old clothes. send em my way, and ill give them another 4-5 years of use.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 4 ай бұрын
They are trash, but maybe between 4 of them, you could make yourself a full 👕. Thanks for watching
@ThatBugBehindYou
@ThatBugBehindYou 5 ай бұрын
Merino wool saves my butt on longer trips, synthetic materials make my arm hairs itch and my face itch catching on the stubble, also actually gets smell free when I wash it. If synthetic works for you great but I simply can't do it. No reason for anyone to ever limit themselves to "the best material" use what suits yourself.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 5 ай бұрын
Wool is junk
@differentangle2499
@differentangle2499 6 ай бұрын
In the cold trekking, arctic condition synthetic and cotton is useless. Only wool.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 6 ай бұрын
Lol, go onto everest, all you'll find is synthetic base layers
@MrFreeGman
@MrFreeGman 6 ай бұрын
All valid points. I still prefer merino though. I'm someone who has trouble with body temperature regulation, and merino definitely helps with that. Synthetics can make me overheat really easily. You also missed one important downside of synthetic underwear, which is that they can make you infertile. Something about the static electricity they generate zapping your swimmers. I know that sounds made up but it's real. There have been multiple studies on it. And another downside to synthetics is the fact that you're wearing a petroleum product/plastic, which to me just feels wrong. I think there's something to be said for how a piece of clothing affects you psychologically - how it makes you feel about yourself and your impact on the world.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 6 ай бұрын
Infertility because of synthetic underwear... next you're going to tell me that the earth is flat! Lol! Just joking with you. I guarantee that wearing petroleum based clothing isn't good for you, but at this stage, it's pretty hard to avoid plastics in every way. Thanks for watching!
@tpc1416
@tpc1416 5 ай бұрын
Moths or poor washing habits caused the holes, not the fabric. I used one pair of 100% merino wool boxers almost every day for an entire year and washed them every 2-3 days (I use a bidet), trained in them, hiked in them, played sports in them and there wasn't a single tear in them. Don't have any reference as to how synthetics perform, but the 95% cotton ones that I used to wear before all got the hole down the middle after a year and that's maybe after 25 wears.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 5 ай бұрын
Please tell me how I washed holes into wool clothing?
@tpc1416
@tpc1416 5 ай бұрын
@@shuswapoutdoors washing machine (even on wool settings the centrifugation isn’t good). Not drying it properly.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 5 ай бұрын
Please explain? How would it get hokes?
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 5 ай бұрын
Any how would air drying cause holes?
@Weatherby406
@Weatherby406 5 ай бұрын
It is absolutely not overrated.. best hunting stuff Iv ever used by a mile.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 5 ай бұрын
Absolute garbage for backpack hunting
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 5 ай бұрын
I can't wait to see your rebuttal video....
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 5 ай бұрын
Crickets....
@gingebrien2408
@gingebrien2408 5 ай бұрын
Beyond the expense , merino wool is worth every penny. Weather Wool, Duckworth to name a few have quality products that will never let you down. Weather Wools Anorak is the holy grail. Rain, sleet or snow and it will keep you comfy. Even in you fall into a lake. The Merino wool keeps me warm and doesn’t let me over heat. I do not find synthetics as versatile. So to each his own. But Merino wool is worth every penny.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tips!
@feeseize9569
@feeseize9569 6 ай бұрын
Linen on your skin, wool on top of that. You can thank me later. 😉
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 6 ай бұрын
Not a chance! Complete garbage! Lol
@coziii.1829
@coziii.1829 7 ай бұрын
Marino wool is the best Dress shirts Underwear Pants Dress socks T shirts Spring , summer, fall , winter. All year around I guess you don’t use it as a dress up items My wardrobe cost about 7,000 for my out fits not counting my suits
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 7 ай бұрын
I'm talking about outdoor clothing. Chasing animals around the mountains, fishing crisp gin clear streams, and bagging peaks. Stuff real men do. 😃
@WelderVp
@WelderVp 7 ай бұрын
Rambouillet wool, on a jacquard loom, is top dog, start with that fabric and go from there.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 7 ай бұрын
I'll pass thanks
@WelderVp
@WelderVp 7 ай бұрын
@@shuswapoutdoors yw, have a good weekend.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 7 ай бұрын
You too!
@marcz9482
@marcz9482 5 ай бұрын
The stuff you have was made in a different time, the 90's are the best times. Companies made stuff to last.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 5 ай бұрын
Lol, first time I've heard of that. The 90s is the start of the disposable Era.
@shanebrowning8862
@shanebrowning8862 3 ай бұрын
Synthetic is just gummy as a base layer. And it is stanky. And I’m not a smelly feller.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 3 ай бұрын
I could care less if I stink if I'm camping....
@shanebrowning8862
@shanebrowning8862 3 ай бұрын
@@shuswapoutdoorscould or couldn’t. If you could, why’s stop there. Shoot for the stars. Care even less. Don’t be mediocre in not caring. Do it w gusto. Get yourself to the point where you could not care less. Don’t do it half heartedly.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 3 ай бұрын
What?
@dsblackfly21
@dsblackfly21 13 сағат бұрын
Couldn't disagree more. Pushed hard with many different tops over a lot of years and merino is my pick everytime.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 13 сағат бұрын
For extended stays in wet areas, it's complete garbage
@Dmbyers2002
@Dmbyers2002 6 ай бұрын
Some good points, 100% agree on durability/cost of merino when it comes to base layer bottoms. My tops last forever though. I buy new long Johns basically every year. Just bought 2 new pairs from MEC on sale 55% off. I personally don’t care about the weight thing, but to each their own. I prefer wool, and I think you missed a huge benefit of wool being how wide a temp range it seems to be comfortable in. A wool sweater doesn’t cook you out inside sitting by the fire or leave you cold when outside in the cold, synthetics don’t regulate your temp anywhere near as good.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 6 ай бұрын
I don't find that wool is better than synthetics for comfort over a wider range of Temps...
@kyori7k
@kyori7k 6 ай бұрын
YALL DUMB... ITS ALL ABOUT ALPACA YOU NPCS
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 6 ай бұрын
Lol
@666Necropsy
@666Necropsy 5 ай бұрын
i rather wear cotton than plastic. i hate the feeling of poly. you feel warm yet cold, its the most unnatural feeling ever.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 5 ай бұрын
That seems silly. But what's your goto cotton?
@666Necropsy
@666Necropsy 5 ай бұрын
@@shuswapoutdoors brushed feels nice
@mudmasterrc3678
@mudmasterrc3678 3 ай бұрын
Did you know that Marino Wool 🦙 absorbs More than 30% of his own Weight on moisture 💦 Dit you know that Merino wool is the most absorbing 🧽 fabric of all the fabrics ? Fact. And last but not least did you know that when Marino wool, of any other Wool, when it's wet 💦. Regulating his moisture outside, even then you Still have it warm. Synthetic it's not breathable, it's sticky, it's sweaty, extremely flammable, en Totally Not taking moisture ,💦on. I would say,Stay warm and Cool use Marino Wool😊
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 3 ай бұрын
And that's why merino wool takes 3 days to dry out. Complete garbage
@mudmasterrc3678
@mudmasterrc3678 3 ай бұрын
@@shuswapoutdoors When you're taking a shower with your Marino wool shirt on. Exactly otherwise not..
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 3 ай бұрын
Rain, snow, sweat. Merino wool takes forever to dry
@ovetown3184
@ovetown3184 Ай бұрын
After seeing that title i kenw bro was gonna cook up the absolutel lowest IQ take ever.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors Ай бұрын
😄 🤣
@ovetown3184
@ovetown3184 Ай бұрын
@@shuswapoutdoors but hey I'd like to see you compare merino to other fabrics like alpaca or possum and other things that aren't talked much about
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors Ай бұрын
I'd never waste my m9ney on those. I wish natural fibers preformed as well as synthetics, but unfortunately they don't, especially on long backpack trips
@fatherdamo2
@fatherdamo2 4 ай бұрын
If you want to Stink on the trail then go Synthetic...simples
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 4 ай бұрын
Wrong
@finnberglander7816
@finnberglander7816 4 ай бұрын
For where I live, wool is king.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 4 ай бұрын
Where may this be?
@finnberglander7816
@finnberglander7816 4 ай бұрын
Montana. I’ve found it to be more comfortable over a wider range of temperatures than anything else I have tried. The lack of odor and not needing to be washed frequently is a big plus as well.
@ryanhell8389
@ryanhell8389 4 ай бұрын
You’re out of your MIND! Sorry but man; I have used it all. I have arctryx and north face goretex thinsulant all of it. All types of clothing. I found some almost new Nordstrom quarter zips made of 100% wool. Let me tell you. Been thru a number of cold weather storms in Seattle working in landscaping and a large concrete and landscape gig I did alone in freezing rain. I was soaked but the wool dried faster than ANYTHING. Hands down. It never got heavy and saggy when soaked. And it never needed washed after a sweaty week in heavy rain. Buy it lightly used. Synthetics are CRAP. and if you are environmentally conscious you’d never buy synthetic crap.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 4 ай бұрын
Wool dried faster than synthetics? With BS statements like that, you lose all credibility. A synthetic fabric will always dry faster than a natural as the synthetic fibers don't absorb water.
@thomasreese5000
@thomasreese5000 6 ай бұрын
Theres a bear behind you, look out!
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 6 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@thomasreese5000
@thomasreese5000 6 ай бұрын
It was a good video in all seriousness 🙂@@shuswapoutdoors
@slickwillie3376
@slickwillie3376 7 ай бұрын
That's good to hear. I'll buy synthetics, except for socks. Thanks.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!!
@Threat_LvL
@Threat_LvL 26 күн бұрын
Conclustion: not worth it. Downvote and get a merino shirt. They are awesome
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 25 күн бұрын
Lol
@byteblock1667
@byteblock1667 5 ай бұрын
Well yeah merino won't be as durable as polyester or nylon. I think thats obvious but i don't like the idea of wearing plastic clothing. I'm a shit hits the fan preparation kind of guy so that's where my mind is usually at. I very much consider being inside a burning vehicle or burning building as the shit hitting the fan. Synthetics will melt onto your skin. That makes for some nasty wound care.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 5 ай бұрын
If your plastic shirt is melting to your skin, you've got way bigger problems than that.. ..
@byteblock1667
@byteblock1667 5 ай бұрын
@@shuswapoutdoors that's why I wear only wool in the winter and cotton in the summer. They don't melt so it's not an issue.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 5 ай бұрын
What's your favorite brands?
@byteblock1667
@byteblock1667 5 ай бұрын
@shuswapoutdoors pants? I like the Big Bill stuff. C&C Sutlery make great wool pants also. They specialize in civil war reenactment clothing but they also do regular modern Wool clothing as well. For Underwear I like the minus33 stuff. Minus33 also makes nice all wool beanies that are not bulky so they fit good undera hard hat or combat kevkar helmet. For Tshirt long and short sleeve I like Woolly brand. For long sleeve button up shirts I like Pendleton or Wyoming Traders or Woolrich. For socks I like Darn tuff or SAMSOX or Hollow alpaca. So many choices on socks. Too many to list. All wool jackets I have are woolrich, LL BEAN and 2 other brands I can't remember. The department of defense do not allow soldiers to wear synthetic like under armor or Adidas climalite or North face etc because that shit melts.
@byteblock1667
@byteblock1667 5 ай бұрын
@shuswapoutdoors I don't blame soldiers for wanting to wear under armor underwear in the 110° Iraq desert. That stuff is great for sweat mitigation but it makes for terrible wound care if your humvee gets blown up.
@no.9516
@no.9516 4 ай бұрын
Your thumbnail, title, and content send 3 different messages. You youtubers cant resist the clickbait
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 4 ай бұрын
Perfect! It worked! It's hard to stick out and get views....
@no.9516
@no.9516 4 ай бұрын
@@shuswapoutdoors Low bar
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 4 ай бұрын
Gotta play the game
@no.9516
@no.9516 4 ай бұрын
@@shuswapoutdoors if being manipulative and thirsty is the name of the game
@sylvainbernaers
@sylvainbernaers 7 ай бұрын
merino takes days to dry. if wet it can be lethal in remote wet places
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 7 ай бұрын
That's how I feel too! It's a nice soft, breathable fabric, but the durability and dry times kill it for me.
@solb101
@solb101 6 ай бұрын
Have you been wet in wool in any remote places?
@Raven1816
@Raven1816 Ай бұрын
Synthetics makes people stink....
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors Ай бұрын
Big deal
@hjewell3920
@hjewell3920 6 ай бұрын
So wrong about Merino Wool. Very misleading to your audience.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 6 ай бұрын
How so? I can't wait to watch your rebuttal video
@SamSam-jf1nj
@SamSam-jf1nj 6 ай бұрын
Merino wool or Alpaca wool is the way to go. It is expensive and sometimes it’s easy to get a hole in it however I would much rather wear something natural then synthetic. Let’s call it what it really is “Plastic”. Thin strands of plastic sewn together. Just wear a trash bag.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 6 ай бұрын
Lol, but that trash bag is superior in almost every way!
@MsMarcelinjo
@MsMarcelinjo Ай бұрын
Get a mic man
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors Ай бұрын
Lol, one day when I make money off these videos
@colton5bucks
@colton5bucks 5 ай бұрын
This guy is a clown 🤡
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 5 ай бұрын
3 subscribers... lol 😆
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 5 ай бұрын
Crickets
@John-of3ur
@John-of3ur 8 ай бұрын
Synthetics lower your testosterone. Explains a lot.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 8 ай бұрын
Lol, I'm not eating my shirts!
@John-of3ur
@John-of3ur 8 ай бұрын
@@shuswapoutdoors Google is your friend. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8279095/
@israv7993
@israv7993 2 ай бұрын
Morino is very nice but too expensive and do t last for more than 1 or 2 yrs In hot humid weather than can get windy like the gulf coast, synthetic are better, they dry and breath well, last for yrs and make you look very good if you are in shape like me.
@shuswapoutdoors
@shuswapoutdoors 2 ай бұрын
I'm with you! Thanks for watching and commenting
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