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🎹Kawai NV5 vs Roland LX708 Hybrid Digital Piano Review & Demo - Cutting Edge Hybrid Technology🎹

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Hello, and welcome to the Merriam Pianos KZfaq channel! Today we’ve got a much-requested comparison video for you as we pit the Kawai NV 5 against the Roland LX-708.
These models are their respective manufacturer's flagship digital piano upright models, so it’s no one wonder this comparison has been so highly requested.
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Piano Overview:
Both the NV5 and LX-708 utilize the same approach to sound in the form of piano modeling technology, which has only in the last few years become a practical possibility for generating piano tone.
Price wise, they’re positioned very closely together on the market, and while the NV5 is about $2,000 or so more, once you’re already hovering around the $10,000 price point, an extra $2,000 is something many folks will entertain given that the instrument they choose will be in their home for many years.
Piano Sound:
The LX-708 PureAcoustic Engine offers two primary modeled piano tones, an American grand (presumably based on an NY Steinway) and a European grand (likely based on a C. Bechstein or Hamburg Steinway.) Playing the European grand model with the ‘My Stage’ setting set to ‘At Hall Stage’, there’s a very nice light ambience and sense of space.
The NV5 uses Kawai’s SKEX Rendering Engine (based on the Shigeru Kawai EX). Sampling the SKEX with the ‘Rich” preset, the playing experience is immediately very different from the LX-708. For one, given the differences in speaker configuration, the way the sound reaches the player's ear is quite different between both instruments. The LX-708 feels much closer, intimate yet ambient, almost like the auditory experience of a grand piano.
The intention with the NV5 on the other hand was clearly to replicate the acoustic experience of an upright piano, which it pulls off very successfully. There’s more overall immediacy and detail compared to the LX-708.
Piano Action:
The actions in these two instruments are the very best each respective manufacturer builds, but they are very different. The NV5 features a true acoustic piano action - not an approximation - but literally the same Millennium III Carbon Fiber action featured in their acoustic upright pianos, outfitted with a cutting edge optical sensor. This is of course one of the main selling features of the instrument. But be aware, if you’re playing the NV5 at less than 50% volume, the action will feel really heavy due to the touch curve, so definitely make sure you test it out at above 50% if you get a chance to try the NV5.
The LX-708 uses Roland’s new Hybrid Grand Keyboard, and interestingly has the opposite quirk - if you play the LX-708 with the volume above 70%, it will feel too light due to the touch, so keep this in mind. This action is a wood/plastic hybrid, with an extended keystick, triple sensor and escapement.
Piano Features:
Both instruments offer Bluetooth MIDI and Bluetooth Audio, but please keep in mind, no digital piano, including these two, are compatible yet with Bluetooth headphones! The Bluetooth capability is inbound only, but given the addition of Bluetooth audio, it means both instruments double as high-end Bluetooth speakers for streaming audio. Both of these instruments will sound better for listening to music than pretty much all non audiophile stereo setups out there.
Both instruments have a bunch of built in songs and lesson repertoire, as well as a lot of the same standard features, such as a metronome and the ability to layer tones. Both have high quality analogue audio output jacks (twin ¼” outs), both come with benches, and both come in a very nice polished ebony finish, though the LX-708 is also available in polished white and satin black.
Summary:
To sum up the differences, if you’re after a great upright but a digital piano makes more sense, the NV5 is the piano for you. If you’re looking for more of a grand piano musical experience, the LX-708 would be the better fit. All in all though, two fantastic instruments that attest to how far digital piano technology has come.
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@rcom9880
@rcom9880 3 жыл бұрын
Hands down the best piano review channel on the internet. Consistently detailed, exhaustive, highly informed. Look no further! Thanks for all the great videos!
@karim111
@karim111 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more! Who else enjoy, listening Stu playing ? 👌 😀
@africanhistory
@africanhistory 3 жыл бұрын
easily and consistently and I tried looking for others.
@c3piano
@c3piano 2 жыл бұрын
He is THE best, bar none.
@ulisesgonzalez8968
@ulisesgonzalez8968 2 жыл бұрын
Trill
@HKLee-dn1fh
@HKLee-dn1fh 3 жыл бұрын
I tried Yamaha, Kawai and Roland and bought Roland LX706 a month ago. The models I tried: -Yamaha Nu1x, CLP 645, 745 -Kawai CA 79, 99 -Roland HP 704, LX706, 708 ..................................................... •Best piano sound:Yamaha > Kawai > Roland •Best speakers:Roland > Yamaha > Kawai •Best key action:Roland > kawai > Yamaha •Best key response:Roland > Kawai > Yamaha •Best look:Yamaha > Roland > Kawai •Worst of all:Yamaha nu1x (not worth the $ for very poor key response and action •Best of all if you have $:Kawai CA 99, but the key response for trill was about 80% •Best digital piano on a budget: Roland in general ............................................................. I aimed to the key response as a piano learner. No problem for trills, fast play with Roland LX series and HP series
@davidbower9025
@davidbower9025 3 жыл бұрын
Another excellent comparison, thank you Stu. And what an amazing repertoire you have sir! All these videos and I don’t think I’ve heard you play same piece twice? Legend 😎
@lordh4rk0nn3n
@lordh4rk0nn3n 2 жыл бұрын
I really like that the manufactures have so different approaches and philosophies when it comes to sound, modeling, speaker projection, feel and so on. Its really awesome and not a given fact that you can get so very different experiences and therefore find what suits you best personally. This really became clear to only because of this channels amazing reviewing. His extreme knowledge and experience with music and sound is incredible. I can watch and listen to him playing these instruments forever. Its mind blowing to me how well he plays and the amount of amazing pieces and progressions he just pulls out like its nothing. Hats off!
@robynmclaughlin4047
@robynmclaughlin4047 3 жыл бұрын
Love your reviews. Thank you!
@sergeygreen
@sergeygreen 3 жыл бұрын
Always great honest reviews without BS
@samwang5831
@samwang5831 3 жыл бұрын
Stu brought up an excellent point which is often ignored by other reviewers. The Kawai has a linear volume control as in the case of most audio amplifers. At lower volumes it does not feel like an accoustic action anymore since accoustic pianos are more sensitive to light touches. Roland must have used software to mitigate this, giving the player a better representation of a gently played accoustic piano. When I play my DP, I use headphones around 50% of the time and when there is a chance to take it off I hardly ever go over 50% because of the neighbours. Kawai should really consider add a 'loudness' option in its next software update.
@christophberghorn7153
@christophberghorn7153 2 жыл бұрын
Fantasticly detailed contemplation, analyzing and describing of all the relevant aspects of the instruments. Stu Harris is a high level musician and pianist whose opinion matters more than of many other Keyboarder so who obviously only play a little bit of piano. Very instructive, thank you! 👍
@johncase2408
@johncase2408 3 жыл бұрын
Great review! Very informative 👏
@SammyP321
@SammyP321 2 жыл бұрын
I've always been one for Roland pianos but I have to say the Kawai wins hands-down on this occasion!
@Keyser-0
@Keyser-0 3 жыл бұрын
Luv to hear the pianos alternative recording - the sound captured by lavalier mic only - occasionally heard as focus switched back to talking. Brilliant, fair & engaging review as always.
@Zoco101
@Zoco101 3 жыл бұрын
So far they both sound very good, even though I'm not usually a big fan of the Shigeru samples or the highly modelled Roland piano patches. Just listening at home with some modest headphones, the Roland treble notes lack that glassiness that I look for. That corresponds to what Stu said about the treble sound being rolled off. But the bass and mid notes sound very rich with a huge dynamic range, and it's like there's a large wild animal hidden in the piano. I'm very impressed. The Kawai is sublime, and the treble notes are more satisfying. Yes, it does sound more like a good acoustic upright, than a grand piano. Very appealing though. I imagine that the soundboard will help this piano to project sound more satisfyingly than can other digital pianos which are dependent entirely on speakers. These pianos are ideal for those who want high quality now and no maintenance issues. They cost as much as some new uprights, but they might not last as long or resell as well, so value-for-money is not their best feature. But I wonder whether the buyers will be players who can exploit the quality they offer. Maybe they'll be good for upmarket restaurants and hotels, or on a yacht. It would be interesting to know whether any concert pianists buy them as second pianos. The silent practice option can be very important. An ambitious amateur pianist might be happier with a secondhand upright for the same price or a bit less, but the bottow end of the new acoustic piano market is beginning to look unsupportable. IMO, adequate amplification and speaker mounting is the biggest challenge in the digital home piano market. These two instruments have met the challenge brilliantly.
@willo7979
@willo7979 3 жыл бұрын
The best way to enjoy Stu’s Meriam series videos, is do not interrupt while watching him humbly sharing his enjoyment with the instruments.
@cesimone2009
@cesimone2009 2 жыл бұрын
What a comprehensive review! Thank you. I wished I had known about Kawai NV5 before making a purchase on Roland LX708 last year in white color.
@biblestudy8720
@biblestudy8720 3 жыл бұрын
WOW, the Roland's sound really surprised me how good the sound is! For the price this is the way to go.
@kyrvhy
@kyrvhy 3 жыл бұрын
Great review of these two top quality instruments. Your musicality brings out the best of both and in truth the best of every piano you play. By far you are best musician demonstrating instruments anywhere. Thanks Stu.
@tentrade2
@tentrade2 2 жыл бұрын
How do you make a sk ex into an upright??????🤔🤔see my review 🙏🙏
@hasl-machine
@hasl-machine Жыл бұрын
A great comparison! Thank you and greetings from Germany!!
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! We really appreciate that. :)
@holgerwinkelmann6219
@holgerwinkelmann6219 3 жыл бұрын
Finally! Thanks Stu!
@thejackdiamondart
@thejackdiamondart 3 жыл бұрын
New to piano I have purchased the RD88. I was hesitant to watch this video because I might feel disappointed in the performance of my RD 88 as compared to these high end pianos. However, I truly enjoyed this. In a way I’m more inspired to grow as a player to attain the skill level that would make moving up to this level of instrument practical. Thanks again Stu for your straight forward presentation.
@george0t
@george0t 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for these videos. It would be great to see a review of, or just hear your thoughts on, the LX706 and how it compares to its siblings.
@aharonwellts5276
@aharonwellts5276 3 жыл бұрын
The first moment I saw you touch the keys on Kawaii I thought WOW, this looks like an acoustic piano! That is, it is literally visually felt! Perhaps the Kawai sound itself gives this illusion more realism. But this is actually amazing!
@Dognacity
@Dognacity Жыл бұрын
Stu, you are the best digital piano reviewer in my opinion. You gave the right amount of technical data, good and varied playing and personal opinions and insights. Well done! I’m deciding between nv5s and nv10s.
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos Жыл бұрын
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! Thanks so much for tuning in! I will be sure to pass on your very kind compliments to Stu! The NV5S and NV10S are both amazing instruments with their unique, individual perks. Obviously, the grand piano action of the NV10S provides an amazing touch. However, the NV5S' TwinDrive Soundboard System provides a wonderful warmth and nuance to the sound. :)
@rubensilkens6201
@rubensilkens6201 3 жыл бұрын
Great job in making me understand who these instruments are intended for. It makes the choice easier. In this review and in the description you mention the NV5 having two ¼” outs. Your initial review from July and the spec sheet from Kawai itself talks about a single 1/8” stereo out. Twin ¼” would be easier for recording. Which of the two is correct?
@c3piano
@c3piano 2 жыл бұрын
Stu personally prefers the upright experience over the grand. So he's going to prefer the NV5 over the Roland. I'm having to replace my DP due to water damage and played both these pianos this week. I played the NV5 first and it's fantastic but said I'll think about it. Next I played the Roland and I said I'll take it in black. But due to the pandemic there is virtually no inventory in the country and the wait time is completely unknown. So I bought the available NV5. Bosendorfer is the sound I prefer. The Roland sounds and plays like a grand, just as Stu says. I'm not regretting my decision, but settled for my second choice. I'm only telling you all this to say you HAVE to try for yourself. Stu is THE best and most honest online reviewer, but still has preferences, and does actually say this in this video. If you can get a college-level piano teacher to audition your considerations that would be fantastic. But not realistic in the real world. If you are a fairly inexperienced player it wouldn't really matter which of these two pianos you choose. They are the top DP's worth considering. There are some much higher and possibly better DP'S, though at their price point I suggest getting a used real acoustic piano, which is even better to play. It's harder to have an acoustic in a family setting. Even Stu had to go digital at home and I think he has a Bechstein Concert-8 at home, but a new baby restricts him playing it and now he has a NV5. I like playing at night and family members to contend with, thus the need for a DP. During the day it's the grand for sure, hands down. A DP has so many other things to offer to make it even more fun.
@tentrade2
@tentrade2 2 жыл бұрын
How do you make a sk ex into an upright??????🤔🤔see my review 🙏🙏
@julianmanjarres1998
@julianmanjarres1998 3 жыл бұрын
Nv5 vs CA99 would be helpful!
@erichutchinson4831
@erichutchinson4831 3 жыл бұрын
I have noticed rolands are digital sounding compared to other brands. Typically they free up a lot of what a sampling piano has a hardtime doing by modeling. I like the sampling sound better in other pianos, which tones sound like a real piano and not as digital or artifical. However for me expressiveness is a bigger priority. There are more aspects that roland makes expressiveness easier because of freeing aspect of modeling. After all music is an art communicating what one wishes to express. So I may lose a bit of "realistic" sounding tones but I gain multiple other aspects to better achieve my goal. Its all personal preferance and each piano different. I also like steinways the best and roland uses steinways as thier template as there more default settings and the physical keyboard itself than other brands. Playing a roland to me makes it an easier transition and not as big of a leap to jumping on a high end accoustic grand in commanding it to do what I want it to do.
@bachtube11
@bachtube11 11 ай бұрын
Wow thats a really good in depth comparison.
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos 11 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! We're glad that you enjoyed it! :)
@sevrjukov
@sevrjukov Жыл бұрын
I'm trying to choose between the two, this video is extremely helpful, thanks so much!
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos Жыл бұрын
You're very welcome! We're very happy to hear that you found it helpful in your decision making process! :)
@jazzlegend
@jazzlegend 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Stu, Your reviews are pure excellence! You’re the best on the net!
@mozgurkaya
@mozgurkaya 3 жыл бұрын
agreed
@thirstyfrenchie3872
@thirstyfrenchie3872 3 жыл бұрын
I have tried both. While it's highly subjective, I prefer the Roland. What people fail to mention is that if you don't like the sound of acoustic Kawai pianos, you are not going to like the NV5. Roland has Steinway and Bosendorfer sounds and Roland as a company has a longer history of modeling, which means the responsiveness of the modeling to your touch is far superior. I didn't see the point of buying an NV5 when you could buy a Kawai upright (e.g. ST-1) for the same price with a quiet pedal for practice. Of course the LX708 action is not even worth comparing to the NV5, and I personally find it very light (Stu calls it "fluid"), but if you're bothered by the light action just get the LX705 which has the PHA-50 action and is great for finger strength. In case you were considering the NV10, I've tried that too, but it was very disappointing for the same reason as the NV5 (don't really like the Kawai sound). In summary - never blind buy! Always go to a store and try them out! Also, Stu is the best reviewer ever!
@midnight4109
@midnight4109 2 жыл бұрын
I looked at a CA99 today and don't like the sound quality as much as both the NV5 or LX708, the NV5 being quite a bit more pricey.
@ekklesiast
@ekklesiast 2 жыл бұрын
Roland doesn't sound like Steinway AT ALL
@midnight4109
@midnight4109 2 жыл бұрын
@@ekklesiast I like Roland but the Clarinovas beat all the others in terms of sound quality so I bought a CLP 785.
@ekklesiast
@ekklesiast 2 жыл бұрын
@@midnight4109 I agree. I was replying to the op saying that Roland sounds like Steinway
@mysticsailor9
@mysticsailor9 2 жыл бұрын
I will be a rarity and also say that the Roland sounded delightful.. The kawai was good, but did not give me the goosebumps that the Roland did
@clivejarvis1860
@clivejarvis1860 3 жыл бұрын
Stu is the ultimate Professional at his job , i don't bother with listening to anybody else cus they don't come close . Great reviews glad your about .
@mozgurkaya
@mozgurkaya 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Stu, first I have to say it is absolutely normal to be subjective, however you look obviously a KAWAİ guy. Even the way you look at the Roland is so different and reveals what you think about it :). But I love the way you explain the specs and it is excellent and I enjoyed it too much, thanks mate.
@SpringLovelle
@SpringLovelle 3 жыл бұрын
You did a really great job with this review. I just played the 708 today and was blown away by how much better it felt and sounded than some of the baby grands in the showroom! I wouldn’t have believed it if I had not played it myself.
@tentrade2
@tentrade2 2 жыл бұрын
How do you make a sk ex into an upright??????🤔🤔see my review 🙏🙏
@gustavogo2915
@gustavogo2915 Жыл бұрын
You must have played some cheap Chinese 🇨🇳 baby grands or you don’t know a thing about real acoustic pianos…
@jamesid2846
@jamesid2846 2 жыл бұрын
Great info! Do you have a NV5/S vs NU1X comparison video??
@royking7298
@royking7298 Жыл бұрын
I've watched this video at least 2 times. 1. I'm impressed with your videos/editing/etc... 2, I'm impressed with your knowledge of electroni Pianos. I have watched your videos on acoustic pianos as well. This video stands out as one the compares tro instrucments that I would be interested in playing at this, late, stage of my life. Thanks. You've been very helpful in my decision making process. Is there anything you would ad for someone in 2023, NS in Poerual that would be useful?
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos Жыл бұрын
Hi! Brent here! Thanks so much for tuning in! We're glad you've been enjoying our videos and finding them useful! The only thing to mention here is that the NV5 has actually been updated with the NV5S. The new update includes more adjustable parameters and an improved speaker system. :)
@aliar11
@aliar11 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Stu, you never stop amazing by how you play and with your reviews. Even though I have great respect for Roland, imho Kawai eats Roland for breakfast. However, I am still not convinced to spend this much money on a digital. In my country, you can buy Kawai K200 plus a Roland FP30 with matching cabinet for the price of a 708, which for me works as the best solution.
@Rogerwat79
@Rogerwat79 3 жыл бұрын
the problem is always the time and the space. When you play most of the time like me on headphones, you want that the time you spend playing is spent on a top quality keyboard and sound. besides, not many can have an upright piano and also a digital standing in some walls of their homes
@yukchiwu9350
@yukchiwu9350 2 жыл бұрын
The sound of Roland is so beautiful, woow......
@tyrvintersol916
@tyrvintersol916 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Stu. This review reminds me why i bought the NV5 instead of another one!
@KeepingOnTheWatch
@KeepingOnTheWatch 3 жыл бұрын
What is your opinion of your NV5? Are you a student taking piano lessons?
@Notmehimorthem
@Notmehimorthem 3 жыл бұрын
I am a big Roland fan, but it’s the Kwai for sound IMOthis time. Wow
@JoeLinux2000
@JoeLinux2000 3 жыл бұрын
I like them both. The Kawai certainly sounds very nice. I sense a very nice clarity from the instrument. If they weren't side by side, there would be no complaints about either one. But in this particularly comparision, my vote goes to the Kawai.
@tentrade2
@tentrade2 2 жыл бұрын
How do you make a sk ex into an upright??????🤔🤔see my review 🙏🙏
@JoeLinux2000
@JoeLinux2000 2 жыл бұрын
@@tentrade2 I played them both at the piano store the other day, and I much prefer the Roland by far.
@adamhenderson6943
@adamhenderson6943 3 жыл бұрын
I'll still take my Yamaha NU1X with the Bosendorfer sound. Coupled with Yamaha's sound customisation in the iOS app, it's really the only piano I need.
@jwmusic2807
@jwmusic2807 3 жыл бұрын
Love your review. Do you have any plan to review the Roland HP704?
@giovannisantos5996
@giovannisantos5996 3 жыл бұрын
I've bought the HP704 a month ago and I'm in love with it. Great action, the polished ebony is really beautiful. I connect it to my laptop as I use it with Pianoteq and it sounds great. Would definitely recommend.
@ulisesgonzalez8968
@ulisesgonzalez8968 2 жыл бұрын
I see what your saying about the musicality of the Kawai but for me the depth and smooth crisp sounds on the Roland are astounding. I think the LX708 is the one I will go with. Would like to play both for a few hours before pulling the trigger
@midnight4109
@midnight4109 2 жыл бұрын
I agree and would like to see a comparison between the Roland LX708 and Yamaha CLP785 which is the only CLP I might be interested in that is affordable.
@daniyopiano
@daniyopiano 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see the Yamaha NU1X in one of these reviews/comparisons!
@dfpolitowski2
@dfpolitowski2 Жыл бұрын
Bought the Roland last week site unseen. Got a deep discount on it for some reason so I pulled the trigger over the phone. Solid build and the tactile touch was not lacking a bit. All I need and more. Bought it primarily for playing all times of the day and night without bothering anyone. The head phones usage or low volume sound does not take away from the feel of being on a real acoustic piano. In some ways its better then the Charles Walter I got rid of.
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos Жыл бұрын
Amazing! Congratulations on scoring your LX708 at an excellent discounted price! It is a powerhouse of a piano and I know you will be beyond thrilled with what it has to offer both in terms of tone and touch. Happy playing and Happy Holidays! :)
@lexikum
@lexikum 3 жыл бұрын
19:35 - 21:00!!! Thank you!
@geraldgleeson4191
@geraldgleeson4191 3 жыл бұрын
Good review. But my understanding is that the Kawai uses modelling to enhance the sampling. It is not pure modelling as in the Roland. My preference is for the Kawai
@alexthompson6529
@alexthompson6529 3 жыл бұрын
The NV5 seems an absolute beast, it really doesn't sound digital to me whatsoever.. having an actual action in there is ridiculous. I'm looking forward to getting out there and trying one!
@tentrade2
@tentrade2 2 жыл бұрын
How do you make a sk ex into an upright??????🤔🤔see my review 🙏🙏
@cyrw
@cyrw 3 жыл бұрын
Not played the NV5 yet but as I prefer the Nu1X to the LX708 I am guessing this is no contest in terms of action -NV5 should in theory blow the doors off the Roland for my preferences.
@Calmdown1354
@Calmdown1354 3 жыл бұрын
They both sound nice, I would say the Kawai has the edge though. And their CA99 is a closer price to the Roland also.
@GiovanniBausC
@GiovanniBausC 3 жыл бұрын
When I want a very good upright piano that looks and feels as acoustic as possible but without the sensitivity for temperature and humidity changes then the NV-5 is obviously the best choice.
@sailorickm
@sailorickm 3 жыл бұрын
I'm still hoping to see a direct comparison between the Kawai Grand Feel III and the Roland Hybrid Grand actions.
@Strandbuggyschaukler
@Strandbuggyschaukler Жыл бұрын
Thx for the great reviews!! Just one question on the tactile response feature on the Roland: How does it compare to the soundboard transducers simulating the string vibrations with and w/o headphones and speakers please?
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos Жыл бұрын
Hi! Brent here! Thanks so much for tuning in and for the kind words! We appreciate it. Are you referring to the Haptic Feedback System on the LX708? Personally, I find it to be quite subtle, but it is there. It is a tiny nuance, but definitely helps push things a little closer in terms of the authenticity of the playing experience. I don't know if it is some type of psychoacoustic effect or just a personal perception thing for me, but I sense it more prominently when playing without headphones.
@tomarmstrong1281
@tomarmstrong1281 2 жыл бұрын
The comments in the action section were quite revealing. Stu explained how the geometry of a full acoustic piano action would cause an impression of a needing a heavier touch than is actually the case on a low volume setting. I have a Casio GP300 with the Bechstein keybed. I prefer to maintain a low volume. I have always considered the action as 'heavy'. Perhaps the rationale underpinning his description tells me why that is the case.
@carlwagner5610
@carlwagner5610 3 жыл бұрын
I just love the Novus5, it seems to be the king of all digitals at the moment! I would really be interested in a comparison between the NV5 and the Ca99, since they seem pretty similar, but there is such a price gap! Thanks for the reviews, keep up the good work
@tentrade2
@tentrade2 2 жыл бұрын
How do you make a sk ex into an upright??????🤔🤔🤔
@midnight4109
@midnight4109 2 жыл бұрын
The NV5 is clearly better, having tried both, in terms of the sound quality. The Yamaha CLP785 in between the two and there are big price differences between the three.
@matthewphillips5483
@matthewphillips5483 Жыл бұрын
@@midnight4109 You are on every video commenting nonsense about the CLP785. I played that thing and it was not worth the money and not in the same league as these instruments.
@midnight4109
@midnight4109 Жыл бұрын
@@matthewphillips5483 Well, CLP is much less expensive and shares underpinnings with the others. Nonsense is in the eye of the beholder.
@DEEDEEFARRELL
@DEEDEEFARRELL 3 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know, if the Kawai NV5 and the Es920 have the SAME piano voices/samples? Or have Kawai reserved their best samples for the NV5? Many thanks
@andybpoole
@andybpoole 3 жыл бұрын
Great review Stu and really made me think hard about the 'merits' of the LX708, here in the UK it is £2000 cheaper than the NV5 (£3,400 vs £5,400) so it's a massive so it's about 40% cheaper. Also adding to the issue for me is that no one in the UK has an NV5 in stock and all dealers are projecting April for availability but that has been pushed back several times since originally quoting January 11th. I even contacted Kawai main European distributor to find out if they even had a container in transit from Japan but they refused to tell me and said they only speak to Dealerships. Dealers in the UK are asking for a 10 % deposit for an Order that they cannot even say when it will arrive. Very poor service from Kawai in my view.
@alexthompson6529
@alexthompson6529 3 жыл бұрын
Ah that sucks man, shame they wouldn't even give you a clue what's going on... Pretty frustrating. I've been keeping an eye out and noticed similar to you, nobody has stock of them... I really want to try one
@andybpoole
@andybpoole 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexthompson6529 yep it's terrible service, my current thinking is to get an LX708 and save the £2000 and then use that towards a nice acoustic baby grand in a couple of years if my playing gets to a level where I deserve it :-) . At the moment I'm taken with a Feurich 179 dynamic II but thats around £12,000 so something to reward myself with in the future .
@alexthompson6529
@alexthompson6529 3 жыл бұрын
@@andybpoole Well good luck to you dude, hope you get to the point where you can treat yourself!
@vitalybedros7678
@vitalybedros7678 Жыл бұрын
Hi Stu! Thanks a lot for astonishing reviews and comparisons! I did not found comparison Roland LX708 vs Kawai CA99/901, so I will ask here: what action is more suitable for long practicing in terms of hands health - Roland's Hybrid Grand or Kawai's Grand Feel III? I have to practice hours per each day and want my hands to get tired as less as possible.
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos Жыл бұрын
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! Thanks for the kind words! We sincerely appreciate it. :) We do not currently have an LX708 versus CA99/CA901 comparison yet. We are not receiving our first shipment of the CA901 model from Kawai until sometime in January. With that said, you can definitely expect review and comparison videos to follow shortly after we do. In terms of the Hybrid Grand versus GFIII action and hand fatigue, I would say they're both incredible actions that provide all of the benefits that come along with extended pivot lengths. Personally, I find the Roland actions marginally heavier to the fingers than their comparable Kawai counterparts. Of course, some of this comes down to touch preferences and the subjectivity of the player, but that is my personal take. From that perspective, you may find the GFIII action to be less fatiguing on the hands. However, some players feel a greater degree of control and connectivity with the Hybrid Grand action. My recommendation would be to test both actions out yourself at a showroom if possible. Thanks again and hope this helps! :)
@ThiagoGuedesC
@ThiagoGuedesC 2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know what piece Stu is playing when starting the NV5 demo? Thanks
@joewger
@joewger 3 жыл бұрын
Stu, I would like you to try an Inovus i88 digital piano!
@jennybaker2289
@jennybaker2289 3 жыл бұрын
As always, this is such a helpful review. Would you please to do a comparison between the Kauai Nv5 and the Yamaha NU1x?
@HKLee-dn1fh
@HKLee-dn1fh 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t even bother... I bought nu1x 2weeks ago, and returned it 2days after it’s delivered. It’s not worth the money at all.
@maartenzantinge6387
@maartenzantinge6387 3 жыл бұрын
It seems Merriam Pianos does not sell firsthand Yamaha, so I don't suppose they would make a video like that.
@djshmul1
@djshmul1 Жыл бұрын
​@@HKLee-dn1fhhi would explain why did you return nu1x?
@user-vy9cc1tp2u
@user-vy9cc1tp2u 8 ай бұрын
​@@HKLee-dn1fh В этом мире, всё что дороже среднего по цене вообще никак не стоит денег, но это производственная необходимость, иначе вообще никто бы не выпускал эксклюзив. И всё же - что конкретно в той Yamaha не так? Всё то же самоё по звуку и действию, что и в более дешёвых, но значительно дороже? Или качество?
@pecsiv
@pecsiv 3 жыл бұрын
thank you! A great review as I am super pumped about getting my Roland LX 708.
@user-vy9cc1tp2u
@user-vy9cc1tp2u 8 ай бұрын
Не могли бы вы оставить свой отзыв о нём?
@canalfocusperformance1507
@canalfocusperformance1507 3 жыл бұрын
In this case I had the opportunity to try both in the store... I think in this case Novus N5 is more piano... No doubt... Athough Lx 708 is a great great piano but I didnt like the sound of the hammers that you can hear... I think is a artificial sound... I didnt want to spend lot of money and I decide to bye Korg G1 here costs 2300 dollars. If i had the opportunity I would bye Yamaha Avangrand n1x, Novus n5 or even Roland GP 607 or 609. (i found out kawai DG 30 very good piano that I tried ) although I know for classical music I should bye a forte piano (grand piano concert) not digital because for hard classical peaces just a real mecanical piano could offers the tecnical speed... Another difference that I give importance today I suffer much with the controls in front of the keyboar and almost always touch the buttons when I play.. Novus n5 doesnt has this problem....
@midnight4109
@midnight4109 2 жыл бұрын
I have a good acoustic but am not a good enough pianist to spring for NV5 as a second piano. I have been looking for something more like the LX708.
@clivejarvis1860
@clivejarvis1860 3 жыл бұрын
the piano on the left sounds great , the piano on the right sounds amazing . now how can i afford the NV !
@sylvain5437
@sylvain5437 Жыл бұрын
Merci 1000 fois! Québec
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos Жыл бұрын
You're very welcome! Thanks for tuning in! :)
@stargator4945
@stargator4945 3 жыл бұрын
If you would have both at home (hypothetic) and you want to play, which one would you like to play.
@c3piano
@c3piano 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to hear a comparison between a Novus NV10(s) and a Roland LX 708. Both are imitating grand pianos. This comparison is between an upright and a grand.
@Jesusmlrw
@Jesusmlrw 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that great video Stuart, I do have a question, and everybody please feel free to respond, you did not talk about the pedals, is it truth that the Pedals on the LX 708 have a gradual action like a real piano? Or is it just an on/off switch for all three of them?
@user-viv
@user-viv 2 жыл бұрын
super!
@stargator4945
@stargator4945 Жыл бұрын
The sound over earphones, the Roland sounds more (Grand piano) realistic than the Kawai. Both top-notch, but feedback of the Roland seems to be more direct and more dynamic (lower levels and higher levels transfer well and are realistic). The Kawai sounds super savvy in the middle areas, but looses some ground on very low or high levels - sounding more lowered replayed recorded sounds. The transmission of a key sound depending on the pressure is different (than only the volume) on a real piano and better reflected on the Roland. I have an RD 2000 and it is a total mess on my instrument, so I play with Pianoteq.
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing your very thoughtful insights and for tuning into our channel! We really appreciate it. I definitely agree that we're dealing with two very top-notch pianos in this case that are capable of impressive levels of authenticity and expressivity. :)
@michabroda4719
@michabroda4719 7 ай бұрын
It is also worth noting that Roland with it's sound engine is able to produce actual long sustain/resonance. Basicaly all reviews don't mention that and it's not always apparent in videos. So if you want to learn proper pedaling Roland is the only way to go.
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos 7 ай бұрын
The LX708's modelling engine does provide a lot of flexibility with specific sonic parameters, including sustain/decay/resonance. With that said, the NV5S and NV10S models have excellent pedal simulation as well. It all comes down to musical preference between these two powerhouse models! :)
@michabroda4719
@michabroda4719 7 ай бұрын
@@MerriamPianos I have yet to hear those models in person, but from recordings they are not as good as Roland in terms of resonance. I'm not talking about customization, just pure polyphony and resonance. Don't get me wrong, I love Kawai sound but they don't have best sound simulation, especialy without key off tracking on NV10s. BTW great channel, keep up amazing work :)
@MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12
@MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12 3 жыл бұрын
NV5 for Me🎹🎶
@MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12
@MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12 3 жыл бұрын
@Konstantin Ridaya I actually own a Kawai ES110 at the moment . I can't finde any music shops that sell them🎹🎶
@MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12
@MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12 3 жыл бұрын
@Konstantin Ridaya Vivo is only known as a cellphone brand where I'm at
@GiovanniBausC
@GiovanniBausC 3 жыл бұрын
Is the LX709 comparable to the Kawai CA-99?
@stephenmurphy8834
@stephenmurphy8834 2 жыл бұрын
for either instrument especially the Roland., what size room is ideal . I have a fp 90 now in a very small room which sounds good but a bit better on headphones
@user-vy9cc1tp2u
@user-vy9cc1tp2u 8 ай бұрын
Тот же вопрос и мне интересен. В сравнении с тем же fp-90x хотя бы. Максимальные размеры помещения для встроенной акустики. Почему нигде нет данных?
@jobsucks
@jobsucks 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing against Roland. But still prefer the piano tone on the Kawai. I really like the sound of the SK-EX. Even on the lower price range of each brand I still prefer the tone on Kawai brand. My preference piano tone in order from most love to least is 1.Kawai 2.Yamaha 3.Casio 4.Roland. I know there are many other brands out there but I haven’t heard them all to make comparisons in to included in my list.
@user-vy9cc1tp2u
@user-vy9cc1tp2u 8 ай бұрын
Удивительно)), но всё тоже самое, но в обратном порядке - 4,3,2,1. Удивительно😊. Звук Каваи через планшет PC и старенький Mac book air, но с высококачественными наушниками Sony, кажется мне слишком ребристым и лохматым, через-чур разбросанным по регистрам как бы. Yamaha наоборот - через чур зализанная и сладкозвучная. Сладенькая до приторности. Два полюса одинаково мне лично не подходят. Звуковое подражание Steinway это то, чего я жду от цифрового звука и соответственно механики действия. Сам не пианист и даже не музыкант, но со слухом всё в порядке - и на гитаре и на баяне балуюсь, так что извиняйте если что. Но кое-что из музыки звучит лучше на Kawai, кое-что на Yamaha, но в общем я предпочёл бы наверно Roland 708, хотя тут думаю ещё очень много зависит от исполнителя - пианиста. Не каждому дано раскрыть произведение и соответственно инструмент. Ох как не каждому!
@benjaminsmith2287
@benjaminsmith2287 3 жыл бұрын
Great presentation, really wonderful details especially about the way Roland set up their speakers. The thing though, these are both instruments that sound like grands because one models a Steinway inspired or Steinway grand, the Roland, and the other's main voice is the brilliant Shigeru Kawai SK-EX (and then there are other Kawai grands as well). The reason for the NV5's existence IMO is to give Yamaha's NU1/NU1X competition. So, the NV5 really is Kawai's version of Yamaha's NU1/NU1X as they both have versions of actions from actual acoustic pianos and use optical sensors. I think Kawai has the speakers more set up to mimic an upright, so there's where your upright sense comes in. The Roland, to me, is more competitor to Kawai's CA99 but the actions aren't all that comparable. I'm not sure where the Roland is hybrid because the action isn't acoustic like on the NV5 (or NV10) or Yamaha's AvantGrand series. It uses a console piano case, but that's really the only think that is mildly "hybrid" about it. I think the NV5 is an outstanding instrument, one of the best hybrids on the market.
@Evil.Turkey
@Evil.Turkey 3 жыл бұрын
The best you can buy and be smart about your money is the KAWAI CA59.
@DavidIzquierdoAzzouz
@DavidIzquierdoAzzouz 3 жыл бұрын
NV5 is a deal breaker, but I still like the upright shape of the LX708 better. Also, their sound is very clear and the presence is truly nice (tried an LX705 recently), I'd be happy if that's a closer illusion to be playing a grand acoustic rather than the upright feeling that the NV5 offers.. However, there's no discussion on the action, whatever likes it to be, Kawai's Millennium 3 is a true acoustic action, end of story. But again, an upright action after all, that ultimately depends on one's preference but I'd really be torn between both of them. And if the LX708 just had that touchscreen like the NV5 has got..
@Thiago-px9ev
@Thiago-px9ev 2 жыл бұрын
I dont think point out Kawai's real action is the real deal. As a former owner of a Roland HP603, I must say that what made me sell it was the ridiculously digital, although very rich, sound. That said, the PHA-50 action was very, VERY close to my current Hofmann & Czerny acoustic upright piano with Renner action(top-tier german action). I sold it to buy the Yamaha P515, very nice sound, very nice touch although heavy, but I still liked the Roland action slighty more. It was light and butter-like, just like my Hofmann. The bad part was the slow repetition, which certainly improved with the increased lenght on the Hybrid Grand action. Now I have two acoustic upright pianos, the Hofmann and a C. Bechstein, and I still find the PHA-50 very close to what an acoustic feels like. Must remember: japanese school is different from german/austrian ones. And Roland, not being an acoustic maker, is inspired mainly by the Hamburg Steinway D feeling(which has a Renner action). Japanese action is known for being more "harsh", and european is more butter-like. Both Yamaha and Kawai represents the first tradition, while Roland and Casio may have a different approach. Although they're all japanese makers, the last two are connected with european acoustics.
@DavidIzquierdoAzzouz
@DavidIzquierdoAzzouz 2 жыл бұрын
@@Thiago-px9ev thank you for the enlightening feedback, I too liked the PHA50 but still skeptical when comparing it to the GF2 that I own (CA97), it played butter-like as you well said but I didn't happen to try it out intensely so that i really could confirm whether it's better or not than the GF3 on the CA99 that I'm evaluating as a next acquisition, still intrigued by the Hybrid-PHA50 on the LX706 that should be a step up from the standard PHA50... Not sure. Also, the fact of you describing it as "close to an upright touch" isn't encouraging at all since I'm looking to a rather grand touch feeling, even if it's not the authentic key action on a NV10, not sure it makes sense
@Thiago-px9ev
@Thiago-px9ev 2 жыл бұрын
@@DavidIzquierdoAzzouz Yes, I called it "close to an upright" because it does feel like my upright-Renner action, but you can expect the same "butterness" on a grand with Renner. The downpoint is the slow repetition as I mentioned, a fact that by itself resembles an upright
@DavidIzquierdoAzzouz
@DavidIzquierdoAzzouz 2 жыл бұрын
@@Thiago-px9ev thanks again for your feedback, I've just realized that there was a mistaken "not" when saying that I'm considering the CA99 as an option, ammended it now. Anyways, I feel like repetion is closely related to action agility, so I'm more convinced now about the GF3 being a better option all in all. Still, I'm going to try lal actions possible side by side whenever I've got the opportunity since there's no big piano shops nearby my city, but I've read and seen a lot of reviews and comments already so I can have an idea about what I want and what I don't
@Thiago-px9ev
@Thiago-px9ev 2 жыл бұрын
@@DavidIzquierdoAzzouz Yes, the best way surely is to try out actions by yourself. These top-of-the-line digitals are all amazing in their own way, till a point it comes down 100% to personal preference. So don't worry if you choose one that's not the very favorite of the public, all comes down to your own taste. If you like the sound, and the action feels good enough to express yourself with ease, why not? I never tried a digital Kawai, but they're so well-known that I want to test one, and I'm sure they will do great! But my overall point is: try in person, take whatever you like the most. That's the best way to have no regrets after. I suffer from the same emptiness of piano stores nearby, and I didnt try any of my 3 digital pianos(Casio Privia PX-760, Roland HP603, Yamaha P515) before buying, not even my acoustic Hofmann so I was kinda shocked when I first touched it at home and reminded me of the Roland. Personal taste is the way to go!
@Snobol4
@Snobol4 3 жыл бұрын
NV-5S v.s. NV-5 - so what did they change with the new "S" model?
@holgerwinkelmann6219
@holgerwinkelmann6219 3 жыл бұрын
would be interesting
@theresearcher253
@theresearcher253 Жыл бұрын
What would kill it for me would be the buttons on the Roland above the keyboard. I can't count the number of times I've hit the buttons on my digital piano by mistake.
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos Жыл бұрын
Every player and piano shopper is different! Some players prefer the buttons/control panel to be directly above the keyboard while others prefer it to be on cheek block and out of the way. Thankfully, different manufacturers take different approaches, so there are options to satisfy most players. :)
@stenaldomehilli8809
@stenaldomehilli8809 3 жыл бұрын
You're really an outstanding musician. Been watching your videos for quite some time, but this is my first comment here. What I don't get however is how on earth people out there are spending 7, €8000 for a digital that resembles an upright piano in everything but the tone. So it's large, (though not as heavy as an acoustic upright), it's expensive, and doesn't sound better than vienna Sinkron Pianos, Spitfire pianos, Keyscape pianos or Nord Pianos. If I had that much money for spending on a piano, well... I'd buy a pretty good acoustic! I'm sure the ES-920, the MP11-SE or the MP-7-SE from Kawai sound just as good and they're portable and cheaper. Same goes for the RD-2000, the FP-90 in the Roland Series. No doubt that everyone decides for him/herself, but personally I find this investment strange. To me, the reason why some companies are choosing modeling instead of sampling technology has to do with keeping their costs low and thats all. It's a pleasure to hear you play! :)
@sheffsteel7
@sheffsteel7 3 жыл бұрын
Good point....when you compare technology, slab/ stage digital piano’s are always much better value than console/ furniture home piano’s. In a studio slabs are better however in a living room on permanent display home pianos are much nicer pieces of furniture, especially in the polished black or white colours. For some people home design is really important. These 2 piano’s help further beautify their home. Also console keyboards offer a built in proper keyboard cover....where as in order to protect slabs from dust you’d need a material which don’t look as good.
@user-vy9cc1tp2u
@user-vy9cc1tp2u 8 ай бұрын
Звучание акустических инструментов не может быть воспроизведено при игре на инструментах с записанными сэмплами - это очень важный и не учитываемый многими момент! Звук акустики изменяется во времени и в зависимости от взаимодействия с соседними струнами и действия - динамики исполнения. Имитирование всего этого на нынешних сэмплированных инструментах с нынешними процессорами и памятью сделало бы их непомерно дорогими, на мой взгляд. Математикой акустику легче прописать на том же уровне достоверности всех факторов, которые мы воспринимаем на слух и в ощущениях от игры, и соответственно дешевле гипотетически правильно созданного сэмплируемого инструмента. Который к тому же и не создан! Игра же на фортепьяно без полноценной динамики по уровню звука и по его оттенкам в зависимости от динамики вообще мертва! Впрочем, это не мешает безумной массе любителей и не только мучить инструмент, себя и других игрой за такими инструментами, потому как люди не все это понимают. Но слушать это в тягость.
@Cyb3rAssassine
@Cyb3rAssassine 3 жыл бұрын
Never liked the piano sounds from Roland, always felt synthetic. These newer sound do sound thin imo.
@TheEddieLandsberg
@TheEddieLandsberg 10 ай бұрын
How does the gp510 compare to the ROLAND? I purchased GP-510. The unit itself is phenomenal, but Casio’s service network is problematic. Also, are any of them “springier” than the 510?
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos 10 ай бұрын
Hi! Brent here! Congrats on your amazing Casio GP510! It really comes down to a matter of preference and personal taste of course. For me, the GP510 has a firmer and heavier touch than the LX708. The default piano sounds and speaker voicing are generally brighter than the LX708's, but there are plenty of available tonal adjustments on both pianos of course. I would say the GP510 is one of the least "springy" actions in my experience. Also, I am surprised to hear that Casio's service network is problematic. We are a Casio dealer and have found their back end support to be amazing!
@TheEddieLandsberg
@TheEddieLandsberg 10 ай бұрын
@@MerriamPianos Hi Brent! I think it might be a regional issue. I'm in NYC. All three of the dealers on their site refused to service it. It looks like it all boils down to whether the dealer has a good relationship with the local rep which I'm sure you do (!). I agree with the analysis on all of your videos. To my taste it feels like a real piano. I can definitely "get lost" (i.e. go into the zone) when I play it just like if I were playing a "real" acoustic. The action is on the heavy side of the spectrum, but in terms of satisfaction with the unit itself I'd personally give it 4.5 out of 5 overall (maybe perfect 5 relative to cost.) The service issue, unfortunately devalues it to a 3 or less. Based on your video I'd probably trade up to an NV5 eventually.
@tentrade2
@tentrade2 2 жыл бұрын
Stu is good, he pointed out LX is a grand and NV 5 is built as an upright 👍👍👍
@JoeLinux2000
@JoeLinux2000 2 жыл бұрын
The action is much better on the LX in my opinion. I found he NV-5 to have a very weird feel.
@tentrade2
@tentrade2 2 жыл бұрын
@@JoeLinux2000 let me tell you my Kawai es520, the key makes unbearable noise, got KDP 120 VERY SATISFIED WITH KEYS, DO YOU WANT MY 520 ? I LET GO FOR $500
@zangdaarrmortpartout
@zangdaarrmortpartout Жыл бұрын
What do your think of the NU-1X?
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos Жыл бұрын
Hi there! Brent from Merriam Music here! We will actually be releasing some comparison videos in the near future, which feature Yamaha NU1X and N1X. I'm sure Stu will discuss his thoughts on these various Yamaha hybrid models in the videos. ;)
@vicfg8052
@vicfg8052 2 жыл бұрын
This is a very thorough and interesting review. I tried both pianos before buying one of them. I agree that the LX708 creates an enjoyable sound, and you really get the feeling of an acoustic action. However I didn't like the European nor the American piano voices, and that was a deal killer for me. Also, the Roland action (as much as the Yamaha Clavinova series) imitates (quite well) the action of a real piano, but is a totally different mechanism; as it is improved every two-three years, it ages quickly; for me this was a second deal killer. I also agree that the NV5 is very much an upright piano: I love the action and sound, and rarely play with voices other than the main piano.
@tentrade2
@tentrade2 2 жыл бұрын
How do you made sk ex into a upright ??? 🤔🤔🤔Check my review 🙏🙏
@mktsound8240
@mktsound8240 Жыл бұрын
Nice video . But according to kawai specs. The NV5 is not based on modelling , it uses the samples of the Shigaru and the effects such as resonances and others are modelled which is used by many good VST ( VSL synchron and Garritan CFX) . Whereby the Roland is fully modelled
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos Жыл бұрын
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! That is correct. The vast majority of sample-based tone engines have some "modelling" elements/enhancements these days. With that said, the NV5 (and current NV5S) do use a sampling engine versus the LX708's fully-modelled tone engine.
@mktsound8240
@mktsound8240 Жыл бұрын
@@MerriamPianos thank you for confirming Brent as at 3:30 Stu is kind of saying that we are comparing 2 modelled sound which could be misleading . Anyway thanks for reply and kudos for the channel which is the best by a long stretch of all keyboard and piano reviews on KZfaq 👍
@paulstix1
@paulstix1 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for the fantastic review Stu . I currently have a Roland FP90 , ideally I wanted an acoustic piano ( as an upgrade) but live in a flat and my neighbour is a nurse so feel a better digital is the way to go . Think it’s the Roland on the strength of what you’ve said . Quick question- Can a microphone be plugged into it ? it’s a handy feature on the FP 90 . I live in Highams Park London or I’d come to your store . Thanks again 🙏.
@AGC828
@AGC828 Жыл бұрын
How far has the sound quality from a flagship (or near) digital piano? Have they come "close" to dupicating the grand the algorithm is trying to silulate? Or, is the difference still as obvious as "CD vs vinyl"?? That while digtal pianos can capture "enough" of the essence of THAT piano the cound will never "come close" or be "identical"??
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos Жыл бұрын
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! This is a tricky question to answer because it is highly subjective. We have many advanced players come through our showrooms that are blown away with the musical experience that flagship digital hybrid pianos (such as the NV5S or NV10S) provide while others will not settle for anything less than an acoustic instrument with a soundboard and strings. When it comes to musical sound, beauty is in the ear of the beholder. Thanks so much for tuning in! :)
@AGC828
@AGC828 Жыл бұрын
@@MerriamPianos ...I'msure that's the case. NO doubt. But realistically.....unless one has a dedicated acoustical.ly treated room....even if you prefer the "analogue" acoustic sound of an acoustic grand....how would we enjoy our investment.? :) HEH So really if one is planning to invest in a C. Cheheign one better add another $100k into building/outfitting a dedicated room :) And have WAF (wife approval factor)....to spend $200k on the semi-concert grand AND $100k for reinforcing the floor/acosutic treatment....unles of course it was HER idea in the first place HEH... again GREAT videos Stu!! :)
@Alex0094309
@Alex0094309 6 ай бұрын
I am currently dealing with an ear condition that causes Tinnitus due to over-stimulation. I am looking to purchase a digital piano, and I need to know which one (Kawai Nv5 or Roland LX708) would be less stressful on my ears after long periods of playing. I also require the option to use headphones while playing. Can you please assist me in making an informed decision? Thank you.
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos 6 ай бұрын
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! Thank you for your question. I am very sorry to hear that you are experiencing tinnitus. I have mild tinnitus in my right ear myself, which was caused by years of touring (while I used in-ear monitors for some tours to mitigate the volume, it always made me feel disconnected from the performance and audience). With that said, I think either of these amazing digital pianos can serve as a wonderful musical companion for you without causing additional stress on your ears. It all comes down to how you dial in the tone. A very bright sound with a very hard attack is often the most damaging and straining sound profile for ears. Keeping the volume lower, softening the attack, and using "mellow" voicings will all help mitigate this and, hopefully, avoid major issues. I hope this helps and all the best!
@Alex0094309
@Alex0094309 6 ай бұрын
Thank you very much, Brent, @@MerriamPianos, your answer helped me a lot. By the way, Great review!
@bandar7891
@bandar7891 2 жыл бұрын
How is Roland LX708 Compared to Casio GP510 In sound and Action Authenticity?
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos 2 жыл бұрын
That would make for an excellent review! I will certainly add that to our ever growing list of piano comparison videos. We do our best to tackle as many of these suggestions as possible. With that said, the LX708 and GP510 are both wonderful instruments with fantastic actions. Given their very different sound engines, every player will have their specific preferences in terms of tone, but I think doing a comparison video between these models would be awesome. Thanks for the suggestion!
@bandar7891
@bandar7891 2 жыл бұрын
@@MerriamPianos Thank you really for your Concern, it's just because where I Live, The Roland LX708 is Cheaper than the Casio GP510 by 3k but Surely the NV5 is 5K Saudi Riyals Higher than the Casio ..I Originally wanted to get an Acoustic but in Saudi Arabia they only provide the Lower End of Asian Brands (Chinese or Indonesian Yamaha, Samick) and charge you for a Middle Range price or more than the Price of used U3 or used Schimmel in Europe or USA), and when I thought of Importing an Acoustic I found its shipping costs exceed the price of the piano itself...I was Dreaming of a Charles Walter Console and upgrade later to a Kawai K500 , W.Hoffman T-128 or Schimmel C130 ...it seems I have no choice but to get a digital.
@Zoco101
@Zoco101 2 жыл бұрын
Listening again, months later, I favour this Roland LX708 piano patch over the Shigeru. That top end roll-off on the LX isn't bothering me now, but from Stu's description, the effect could be like what Bose has done with some of its speakers. Stu does tend to play it more quietly, maybe because the speakers are so close, even if the modelling emulates distance. I really like the Kawai EP sounds, but I'll bet the EP and organ sounds are easier to play with the LX708's action. We are only listening of course. Playing is always a different experience, and then the acoustic piano key action on the Kawai might be a deciding factor, though I take note of Stu's comment about it not necessarily being as suitable for practising at lower volumes. Are conventional acoustic actions still invariably the best actions if students practise more quietly now? 🤔
@sevrjukov
@sevrjukov Жыл бұрын
So today I properly tried both models, with a pair of high-quality headphones, but also without them to check the speaker system. I spent over an hour playing both. This is my (highly subjective) conclusion: Action: - Roland action is really really soft. Actually, too soft for me - and I already own a Roland digital piano (HP series). At first it's tempting, because it's very easy to play and it DOES offer a great deal of tone variance and expression capability. But at the end it doesn't feel very realistic. It's like they tried to make a pleasant and appealing action which feels incredibly nice (and succeeded) but if this is going to be your primary instrument and you are trying to develop a proper acoustic piano technique and touch, it might actually hinder you a bit. - Kawai action on the other hand feels rather stiff at first. But exactly as Mr. Harrison mentioned in the video - this disappears when you turn the volume up a bit and it starts feeling appropriate. If you need finger strength and technique, this is definitely the choice. Sound: - Headphones - Roland sounds nice in headphones, so does Kawai, although the sound "texture" is quite different. There is no striking difference in the quality though. - Speakers - Roland built-in speakers are much weaker compared to Kawai (both set to roughly 60-70% volume). In terms of realism, Kawai speaker sound is greatly superior and natural-sounding. The longer I played both instruments (alternating between them), the more Kawai felt more realistic and "mature". I haven't finally decided yet, but currently it's my favorite.
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for tuning in and sharing your very excellent and detailed insights! I know many of our community members that are trying to decide between these two amazing digital piano models will certainly appreciate it immensely. Thanks again and happy playing! :)
@sevrjukov
@sevrjukov Жыл бұрын
Just wanted to tune back in and share my experience. I finally went for the NV5S and I'm so glad I did so. The Kawai real mechanical action is incomparable to any of the digital (simulated) ones. Switching to this from an older Roland already improved my playing just after 3 days. It feels so natural and everything kinda "clicked" and suddenly unlocked my playing. I no longer struggle with expressive dynamics and pianissimo. Even scales are cleaner and easier to play, as I can feel proper feedback from the keys. I don't think this would have been possible with any other digital instrument.
@user-vy9cc1tp2u
@user-vy9cc1tp2u 8 ай бұрын
​@@sevrjukov И с Yamaha? Соответствующего конечно.
@joewger
@joewger 3 жыл бұрын
Compare the new Kawai ES 920 and the Roland FP90 X
@gorgonajades5081
@gorgonajades5081 3 жыл бұрын
Kawai the best
@Zoco101
@Zoco101 2 жыл бұрын
On my third separate listening I find it hard to choose which sounds nicer. The Kawai might have a more interesting sound with this romantic classical music (music that I love to listen to) but I wouldn't play that on it. I wonder why Kawai doesn't feature a top upright piano sound as its principle tone if an upright playing experience is the objective? I also wonder why the action is slightly lighter than on a high end Kawai acoustic piano. Does this not all reduce the credibility as a hybrid for classical musicians? Well, we have the NV5S to listen to now, but this comparative review still intrigues me. I might listen again with some other headphones.
@Brandon_501
@Brandon_501 5 ай бұрын
Call me a fan of the “kawai sound”, but the nv5 takes the win hands-down here. Im going on saturday to a local dealer to test it out and hopefully buy it!
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos 5 ай бұрын
That is awesome to hear! The NV5 and NV5S are extremely impressive instruments. The soundboard system in particular really pushes the model over the edge in my opinion. :)
@africanhistory
@africanhistory 3 жыл бұрын
Kawai for me, but only for Piano
@lassel1644
@lassel1644 3 жыл бұрын
When it comes to these great sounding machines the furniture and design will be the deal breaker.
@user-vy9cc1tp2u
@user-vy9cc1tp2u 8 ай бұрын
С лица воду не пить, но всё же - по части дизайна и качества отделки, кто тут круче на ваш взгляд?
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